Oh, Canada! Save the WW2 Lugers From Euthanasia!
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2021
- Due to recent changes in gun regulation in Canada, collectible WW2 Lugers will soon be destroyed. We have to get as many into the US as possible before the history is ruined forever!
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The Australian vids from the 90s of scrapyards full of guns being toted around by electromagnets after having the actions cut in half tug at my heart as well.
Look what is happening in Australia today…makes one think and go “hmmmmm”
Why would Australian citizens comply?
Imagine if Tom could have started a campaign years ago to save some of the Australian antique firearms that were destroyed.
So many that I understand it had an effect on the world scrap metal market.
I was working as a Weapons Instructor in Sydney, when the 'buy back' was conducted. Not only did I lose my own firearms collection but I watched the piles of guns as they were butchered and sent off to a smelter. The people involved had no regards for historic or financial value. It was all about politics. No laws relating to the use of firearms in the commission of crimes were enhanced to punish crooks. Just honest people who liked firearms.
I’m Canadian and this makes me sad that our government want to destroy these piece of history😢
You lot brought it on yourselves. Have fun with Castro's bastard running the show.
@@ronnieman87 chill, your government is nothing to brag about
@@jimmykool3253 yeah, ya got me there.
I was hoping JT, was going to be voted out
Vote them out
When I lived in Canada for several years, the running gag was,
The US has: Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope.
Canada has: Trudeau, no cash and no hope!
Funny that you say that..
I'am old enough to remember the very first Truedope.
And I think I recall hearing something like that in the distant past.
I also recall hearing many Canadians who moved out of Canada. Speaking to me back in the 1990s.
I remember them telling me to get out of Canada. Because it WILL NEVER ever change. They said you want the change?
You have to move out!
And I did move out... Had to move back because of the "wife". I do regret moving back to Canada. Those who told me to move out were right.
Place just keeps getting worse, and worse. It is is NOT getting any better!
I remember my grandad telling me that when he fought in the war, the Canadians where the toughest and most fearless soldiers he ever fought along side..
I'm also Canadian, and our government totally misses the mark when it comes to guns (and even airgun replicas). It's a well-known fact that criminals that use guns to commit crimes don't follow ANY gun law. But it's just politics trying to appear to do something against crime. These new gun bill revisions (which to my knowledge haven't been passed yet) also include a section that stipulates that all airguns that are made to resemble real guns will also be banned (airsoft plastic pellets, BB steel pellets, and "lead" pellets). It won't be illegal to own one, but you won't be allowed to sell, buy, or use them. Politicians are such hypocrites and liars. I own a Umarex P08 Luger steel BB replica with blowback action, that looks pretty convincing, even down to the action. I'll be darned if I can't enjoy shooting it for backyard plinking fun on weekends because of some stupid gun law...
...add to that the elimination of minimum sentences for violent multiple offenders, figuring instead that hugs and halfway houses are better...the gangs are not targeted like they should be...because that would be racist....
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND
IT IS *NOT* "Just politics trying to appear to do something against crime."
THE POLITICIANS ARE THE CRIMINALS
They disarm you while they replace you and then finally finish the genocide
It would not be the first time in history, far from it
All fascists disarm the civilians before they kill them
@@ChaosBW Let's not fall over into hysteria.
Check out rat hunting with .177 air rifles, and the accuracy, if they used the Colt woodsman at the garbage dump,it's cause Luger's are rairer and ammunition more expensive.
Tom excellent job on rescuing those Lugers! I have owned a few in my life! The best one was a 1938 that my uncle brought back from the war. He left it to me when he died and it was later stolen! It was an extremely beautiful Luger so I keep hoping one day it will come back but it's been 35 years now so not likely at all even if found by the police somewhere. Anyhow I always look forward to your videos thank you!
I've seen many of your videos. Love them all. This video being canadian very near and dear to my heart. Thank you.
Dale, Thanks for watching!
When watching these Luger videos from Legacy Collectibles I have to wear a bib due to the excessive drooling. I am blessed to have at least a 1942 PO8. :)
So you're the reason I am having trouble finding WW2 dated Lugers! So many collectors I talk to say they've shipped them down south or have re-barreled them
I was thinking that. Do you remember that guy in Toronto who was a big Luger collector and his house was burglarized and then he was arrested for unsafe storage? I can't remember all the details, it was 15-20 years ago, I just remember seeing a picture of his collection, he had 60+ Lugers from what I remember.
The beauthy of the Lugers is that it has many milled parts.
And not some straightforward milled parts, but many rounded forms.
Lugers were already destroyed in the 90’s. I saw pictures of non artillery Lugers destroyed by the dozens when their handgun restrictions first started
The Canadian prime minister mr. Blackface sparkle socks is insane, has no grip on reality and is the inspiration for thousands of comet strike prayers.
👍 that is a spot on description of Candace pm mr. light in the slippers and his fellow villagers!
Obviously just as many insane voters in Canada as in the USA.
@@alanrogs3990 ......actually the dimwit only got 32% of the vote....the dependent hinterlands and Ontario......mostly urban Ontario.
Treudeau is an idiot the same as the rest of the liberals. And this banning of airsoft guns, what the hell is wrong with them
Just insane are the GREAT amount of dumb people, the voters who just can't get enough of the Liebrals..
The barrel length law for handguns states that the barrel must be longer than 105mm or 4.25 inches, so a PP is also considered prohibited. Handguns in .25 and .32 caliber are also prohibited.
Thanks for posting this video. I just recently acquired a P08 and it also has the "42" stamped on top of the toggle action. The date on top of the chamber is 1939 and the acceptance and proof marks are faintly visible. All the serial numbers match. The checkered grips on my luger are still intact but the color has considerably faded. I had no idea there were so many lugers in Canada. I sincerely hope they change their laws to favor the citizens of Canada.
Confiscation on both sides of the CAN/USA border is the goal of the power mad governments.
The barrel actually has to be 106mm, about 4.2" to be legal. I have 4 Lugers and a PP and PPK with 4.2" barrels. The PPK looks ridiculous with the pinocchio barrel.
And the PP is prohibited by both the 7.65/.32 acp caliber and barrel length (under106mm)
Well Done Sir!.... Please save as many as possible. I am such a fan of these historical relics, even if I don't own them myself or lay hands on one of them,.... I am happy to see you rescue these beautiful P08s. Please let us know, as fans, what we can do to increase the number that will not be destroyed ...
I have a 1936 S/42 with two matching magazines, the second magazine has a "+" on it.
I’m glad you got the “U-Boat Luger”, I was bidding on it too, but too much for me unfortunately. I hope your able to confirm the story and I look forward to your new book!
Which auction house?
I have 3 short barrel hand guns in Canada you need to have had the guns before the law changed. i have a 12-6 exemption ... I am not going to buy any more hand guns because I know the government will eventually take them.
Hi, I just find it so sad that any old guns are destroyed, as some of them have such great history behind them, and I always wanted to have a Lugar 😢love your program
Government(mind control). Ignore everything they say. Live YOUR life.
Thank You From Canada, Kenneth
I am Canadian and have # matching luger including the mag,and it looking like Turdo is after all hand guns.
Dont let them take it. Fight if they come to take it
The hypothesis behind the minimum 4" barrel is that a shorter barrel has "no sporting purpose". Their words, not mine. I guess shooting just for fun doesn't count.
Thank you!!
i got so mad I had to stop watching. I'm so sick of this gun grabbing. as a Canadian I'm angry that I cannot by law get so many of the historically great weapons. This is what happens when you vote Liberals in all the time.
Outstanding video and presetnation.
We're way ahead of them in the mad dash to Looneytown. I remember Willard's torching/grinding/chopping of _rare_ collectable GEM Garand rifles, to prevent their falling into the Evil Clutches of the CMP.
Well, our friends in Canada are making all the Lugers already in America worth more!!
I wouldn’t want you and Ian over any other gun CZcamsr simply for the history that is what I love
gotta love canadas' stupid gun laws. Eliminated without a doubt the most collectible handgun ever made.
Especially seeing as most of these collectible milsurp fire arms rarely see the light of day anyway. Mostly just for collecting
Great info, keep it coming!!! Very interesting subject!!!
The arms of an angle was great touch lol
Excellent stuff as usual.
My father had a nice WWII Luger that he took off a guard in Dulag-Luft XIII after his Lancaster bomber was shot down over the Ruhr valley. I grew up shooting it, and he gave me his long guns as he became increasingly infirm. He hung onto his handguns, and, after I gave him hell for still driving after he’d been declared legally blind, gave it to a farmer friend of his, and didn’t tell me who.
As a result, not only was this nice little pistol lost to me forever, but I lost the chance to legally own firearms labeled as “prohibited” under our arcane firearms system. I have a decent collection of restricted handguns, but a short-barreled Luger will forever be illegal for me to own.
Interestingly, the RCM Police’s service pistol, the Smith 5946 is officially a prohib firearm - the barrel is 2mm too short.
In the UK I believe the barrel length must be 12 inches and it has a steel rod sticking out backwards from the base of the hand grip. It is probably to prevent concealment.
@mtoto pori Thank you for link
If we didn't have a constitution and people willing to Fight for 2a can happen here
I want a luger so dang bad
The barrel length on a Walter PP is 3.85 inches.
Am I just _so_ elderly and cynical as to suspect that many if not most of these items will _not_ be handed in for summary execution, but will either find their way into buried sewer pipes, steamer trunks in the attic, or, wander across the thousands of miles of border that are little more than lines on a map?
PS: I'm old, really old, so my mind wanders. So please indulge my questioning speculation -- and if anyone has an answer, please speak up!
What is the difference between a WW2 bringback that's come out of an American attic, and one that's come out of a Canadian attic, which then walked across the border?
I am not advocating such hideous activities, of course. It's just that I can't wrap my mind around the notion that such things DON'T happen.
"Wow, look what I found while going through Gramp's stuff! He never said _anything_ about this before he died!"
"Oh, dear! It was never registered! Now it will have to be _destroyed!_ I sure hope it doesn't walk down to the end of the block and cross the street into the USA where it'd be a perfectly legal WW2 bringback. If _that_ happens it'll _never_ be rightfully destroyed!"
Does that happen?
If it doesn’t happen, it definitely should start. Our friends from the north should have the right to decide what to do with their own property and not be forced to surrender valuable antiques to be destroyed.
I'll give you $800 for one of those import marked lugers.
Oh man. LOL.... Thanks Tom :) So good.
Your description of Canadian law isn't correct, the barrel length requirement is: "more than 105mm", which is 4.17" PPs are prohibited. .25 and .32 is also prohibited, so that doubly bans a lot of PPs. The usual thing is to replace the barrel on a Luger with a Dlask 106mm barrel, I've never seen one replaced with a 6-inch although I'm sure someone has. The 7.65mm Para ones have long enough barrels usually. You can own them if you had one prior to the ban date in 1995 and transfer them to other pre-95 owners. The reason PPs and HSCs were never common in Canada is principally because you generally can't own a handgun for personal protection, so only collectors were interested in them. A Luger is more useful for target shooting so they're more popular.
Correct, if it was 4 inches P10c would be legal without threaded barrel. I believe with the threading it is 4.25" not sure mm
@@chronicdose the question I always have is: who has ever made a .25 with a barrel longer than 105mm? There are a few . 32s but nearly all of them are exempt from the ban by name. In Mexico anything more than a .380 or a . 38 Special is banned, so the only centrefire semi auto handgun I can think of that appears to be legal in all three countries is the Browning 1911-380. Walther GSP? Not many. If gun control made any sense, wouldn't they at least have a similar definition?
I appreciate your straigness, good job done. Stupid politicians "somehow protecting us"..., ...Germany occupation... I like such honesty. Thank you
Isn't it bad enough that WWII destroyed so much history? So much architecture. So much art. So much cultural heritage and history was destroyed. It is unconscionable that we continue to destroy history so many years later. Obscuring history dooms us to repeat it. Such things should not be the sole territory of dusty museum closets, they should remain in the hands of the People. There should not be just a few remaining examples that we can't touch. We have young people that commonly don't know what WWII was at all. This is our collective living history. Especially today, when so many issues are socially and politically polarizing. We need to know, understand, and feel what history teaches us. Our younger generations seem to be losing grip on that. It's not one person, not one leader, not one political party, not one group that is responsible. It is a cultural evolution. Even those of us that support the cause must ask ourselves what we can do better or more, how have we contributed to that which we stand against.
My father was a military arms collector, his extensive collection was sold off as a financial matter in a divorce for an embarrassingly low price. He never bought another gun except the one he taught me with when I was eight years old. I am fortunate to still own that gun almost 50 years later.
As these guns are destroyed the value of the remaining guns goes up and they become less and less accessible to the common man. I am a collector, I have disposable income, and I don't own a proper Luger. I probably never will, and neither will my son. That would have been different if I had inherited my father's collection. I am reduced to being a spectator and watching videos on CZcams. I still have vague memories of my father's collection. The only thing that remains is a single bayonet that is in my possession. As a child I hid it. As an adult I gave it to my father, he cried when he saw it. He told me about the rifle it went with. I inherited that bayonet when he passed.
The tragedy of what is happening regarding the defacement and destruction of firearms via thoughtless laws and regulations is unconscionable. I am personally aware of a collection in the US that was confiscated by the police without just cause. The owner fought in court and won but the collection was already (allegedly) destroyed so he was reduced to suing for the value, which only recovered a fraction of his loss. A number of those firearms turned up years later in the possession of the families of police officers after the officers passed away. They were stolen property and were not rightly returned to their owner even after they were discovered, they were again allegedly destroyed. These laws and regulations are a mess and the administration, execution, and enforcement of them is a mess.
Look at that row of Lugers 😯😯😯
I would love to have a Luger because of the history, heck I would take any Luger I don’t care if it’s a shooter grade, I will take what I can afford to keep them around !!!
Beautiful and very good to have for anyone who appreciates the most reliable pistol produced.
There used to be a video on CZcams where a gunsmith mauled a nice minty WW2 era Luger by stripping the original barrel and installing a much longer one. He seemed so proud of himself. Vomit.
crime.
The import mark BS is so infuriating. Screwing up otherwise beautiful historical pieces. That is one SLICK import mark though!
Hey,from one "Broad Street Bully" fan to another.Love the Flyers.Dave "The Hammer Schultz".Don "Big Bird Saleski"..!!
You want to see stupid laws come to South-Africa , I bought a semi auto shotgun 12g, first I had to do my competency I did that Sept 2020 and handed that in to get it approve got that back in March 2021 and then I applied for my license for my shotgun only got that approved the 28 Sep 2021...now I must wait for my license card to be printed that can take up to 1 to 3 months then only I can get my gun License is valid for 10 years....what a joke...
Bring one to the border where its unfenced and unguarded, throw the package over the border to someone willing to provide it a "forever home".
They watch the border with sat and thermal imaging, even where it is unfenced farm fields and grazing land in the middle of no where. Not sure why they watch the North border like that and not the south border?
I commented yesterday on a Canadian g3 video, " oh Canada/ where we pretend to love our 5 round mags." Now I see this, must be being followed by legacy.. I'm sorry
Save the Lugers for me, please.
I wish that I was born in different time
Save your money and import as much as we send.
its Australia New Zealand North now.
“Don’t change the barrel, it wrecks collector value!” Then has it import stamped 😆 at least they will be safer south of the border than up in Canada!
Also, for decades Canada has been producing a supply of Lugers to go south because in the war Canadian vets were not allowed bring back souvenir guns, so the k98’s and other long guns couldn’t make it in, but Lugers and other handguns could be tucked away nicely. Although I understand they would scare the guys before letting them off the troop carriers on the way home, and as a result many pistols ended up on the ocean floor as the ships waited in harbour.
Gun I wanted just sold on your sight.
I'm devastated 💔 was a romy g ak47
Beautiful
The last though first was that W W 1 luger is the history's first of a line of beautiful pistols.
I moved here from Canada and they think I’m slow eh.
A friend has an older surplus German poliice 7.65 PP, in the original box, with the import mark hidden under the grip. He's wondering how much having that import mark might affect the value, compared to no mark at all.
I'm sure for the most part they're passed down with no one needing to know
I’m a Canadian in Canada. I own a nice 1939 example that my Spitfire pilot dad pinched from a Luftwaffe base near the end of the war. It has a four inch barrel. I own it legally and I do not have to replace the barrel. Not sure where you got that info.
SO you have a 12.7 or 12.6 exemption on your license allowing you to possess it - the gun is still prohibited, you're just allowed to keep it. If you're lucky you can hand it down, but either way the value of that asset has been decimated by the government. If you or your Dad are no threat to anyone, that happened for no valid reason.
What would each of these be worth in today’s market?
So, how do I get to rescue one of these beautiful pistols?
Great video.... Canadian gun laws are a total mystery in reality 🙃
Why get a Luger when you can getta Walther P-38 that transforms into Megatron?
You think that’s bad, have you seen what Russia did with their military surplus fire arms??
goverment employees can be such butt holes. a work boat owner told me whenever a coast guard inspector came on one of his boats he always had steak for dinner for him. if he did not like the boat owner his rust inspection would be horrible. instead of a one foot circle around a rust spot it woud be a six foot circle. and the owner had to replace all the metal circled. ever since cain killed able with that stone i have been trying to get stones outlawed. another great video.
John Candy, where are you when we need you?
Thank you for mentioning the fact that it was Canadians who were mainly responsible for getting the American hostages out of Tehran , regardless of whatever rubbish Ben Affleck would like us to believe.
What do the "youth in Asia" have to do with Canada or Lugars ?
Why is everybody talking about youth in Asia?
Pretty fkkin’ ironic if you think about it…………
Indeed save the Lugers from Kanada’s insanity
Their country, their laws. If, they wanna get rid of em, what are we supposed to do about it? It's a shame. But, there it is.
Russia banned long guns that aren't hunting carbines. They didn't define what a hunting carbine was so every rifle because a hunting carbine over night...
they also class polygonal rifling as smoothbore and thus shotguns, which is pretty handy since the requirements to get one are less strict.
Im amazed the Canadians let politicians take their guns
We dont want them. Guns dont belong in modern society.
I prefer the term British North American madness.
Who asked you what you prefer?.....but since you are sharing....I prefer that you refrain from making asinine comments....
@@mark006868 you are obviously Canadian with a gun licence. Webster
That's just sad all around.
That is really sad, as Lugers are such a collectible rich boys toy and not a cheap saturday night special:(-John in Texas
If it's a war luger. Then how can anyone tell who brought it here U.S or Canadian soldiers and not all were registered. So why not smuggle it in to the United states.
Just don't get caught by the US government doing so!
@@andrewallen9993 Secret compartments. Or hidden in a dirty diaper bag ( wrapped up in plastic of course ) gorilla tape it to the undercarriage of the car ( a heavy triple tapping just to start with ). But there's always a way. If they can smuggle drugs then someone should be able to get a gun through.
why would they do this man, so sad. these are collectable guns
She I was forced to have my Mini 15 taken and destroyed. I witnessed a Walther PPK with wood grips and a swastika on one side and SS runs on the other, also a leather holster and extra magazine, all were destroyed.
Dont understand, how its possible to receive original unmodified lugers, if they have to be destoyed ?
I have rust blued a couple of guns. Takes a lot of time but turn out beautiful. But would not do that to a Luger. If I could afford 1. Now if it was rusted up bad I would go for it. Pistols are a lot easier to do then rifles and shotguns..
So are the days of getting a cheep SKS in Canada over?
Yes, topping out around 450-500 now.
Even up to 600ish depending. I bought my Russian 1954 Russian just a few years ago for 250$ very sad.
@@chronicdose My shop says their supplier is out of Grade A rifles and now is offering Grade B for buyers and that will boost the price some more.
Canada (government) USED to be nice.
BY CANADIAN LAW THESE LUGERS WOULDN'T REQUIRE BEING DESTOYED sorry for caps but wanted to draw in attention. These lugers were put under prohibited class because of the barrel length, if you owned one befor the law was made you'd get it grandfathered onto your license allowing you to own any hanguns with barrel lengths less than 105MM called a s.12(6.1). Now if die with one of these handguns the first option for the inheritor is they can get a s.12(7) added to their license which allows them to inherit any prohibited handguns if it was made befor 1946.The second option is take it a dealer, a dealer could own it or sell it to a museum, movie prop company, and any person with a s.12(6.1) or s.12(7) attached to their license then of course as he said barrel swap to longer one making it be treated as a normal handgun.
I think we should be keeping these lugers in Canada even if we have to swap barrels because we shouldn't be whittling down our supply of cool historic collectibles and sending them to a country that allready has alot more cool collectables then what we have.
Also as a side note handgun mags are capped at 10 rounds but luger snail-drums are exempt and can keep their original 32 round capacity.
How much would it cost for a US Citizen to import a Luger? What is the process? Can it be done by a Citizen or does it have to be done by an import/export dealer?
Speaking of import marks, I've purchased several Makarov that were marked on the underside of the trigger guard, or similar non obtrusive location. Have you thought about taking deposits on 500 or so of these, with balance due upon arrival to the US? You, of course, would get a "finders fee" for handling the import. Deposit would be returned if the import failed to go through. You are trustworthy, sometimes I can't say about some dealers.
Pretty complicated but has to go thru a Canadian exporter, to dealer in US. And yes, that could be Legacy Collectibles. Cost is at least $200.
How do I buy one ?
Can i trade in my Luger with one that has a longer barrel by you?
I believe that it's not the gun that kills its person
Kiel is on the Baltic and Wilhelmshaven is on North Sea
Candinavia is krazy
I am a Canadian, and proud of it, but owning a firearm here (in Canada), our unhonorable selfie loving leader doesn't treat me as a Canadian, I've been collecting military firearms for 40 years for my retirement fund, and now that I'm 67,he basically said F-U to a lot of us!! I guess growing up in Ottawa as a very protected child, he never learned what it is like to grow up as a Canadian with a pellet gun as a kid,and learning responsabilities that go with it, and the fun of shooting and collecting firearms are totally out of his grasp!! On another note, thanks for the great videos, and understanding your friends to the North are in deep doodoo with this bonehead at the controls!!! Cheers!!!
How Much?????.