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    In this video I offer some thoughts about why people might not seem to care as much about your most recent work, and how the lack of attention may actually be a good sign. I'm also joined by my friend @SimonBaxterPhotography who offers some examples from the world of landscape photography.
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  • @burneshollyman2621
    @burneshollyman2621 Před 6 měsíci +547

    This is spot on. I have a successful professional fine art photo gallery in the USA in a major city and sell prints for thousands of dollars. None of these beginners on social media platforms understand that great art is created in a whole other space than online and can be seen at shows/festivals (e.g., Paris Photo, Houston, New York. New Orleans, Tokyo, etc.). The greats simply don't bother with social media. I mean, they are there, but it has nothing to do with their gallery, museum, and publishing work. Now... here is the thing. These days the majority of people should only shoot for themselves. Being an amateur means loving what you do. So enjoy it and do great work. Start with one true thing. Get off Reddit and other forums and arguing about which camera is best or pixel counts. Most of these people take derivative crappy images and vent there because they don't have the goods. Shoot, print and build an archive for yourself first. Be aware of what other people are doing only so you don't end up being unoriginal. If I see one more Ansel Adams landscape, a Robert Frank "street photographer" derivative work of people crossing streets I will throw up. Be original to challenge yourself. This is very, very, very hard to do. If you must, go find a gallery, show or publisher. But only if you are totally unique and brilliant. But be happy in the simple process of taking pictures, printing them, making books (ala Blurb), and then curating them for yourself and the people who matter to you. Edward Steichen once said that if after a lifetime of making images, you can find only 40 which are great, then you have accomplished something huge. And he did photography a century ago, way before social media and image making devices ranging from cameras to phones and more.

    • @vtrykoz
      @vtrykoz Před 6 měsíci +16

      Thank you, we really need this comment printed in frame 🙇‍♂

    • @DJVARAO
      @DJVARAO Před 6 měsíci +13

      I have pursued a parallel life in the arts since forever, especially focusing on painting and later, photography. My professional success allows me to indulge in photography as a personal interest. I don't feel the need to sell prints or seek approval from others to find happiness in it. However, when it comes to my work, posting online holds little significance for me. I'm not interested in amassing a pile of random, anonymous "followers" on social media, which often results in unfulfilling attention.
      Your advice resonates with me, providing my work with a clear path to follow. While I rarely print my work (I know, I know), I am now open to compiling personal books. I have an incredible collection from the historical center of Milan dating back to 2001, along with numerous portraits. It has been a learning journey that I believe deserves to be shared.
      Thank you for your wise words. In recent years, I've gained more insights into the art and craft from conservationists, image production designers, and philosophers like Sean Tucker, as well as gallerists, than from photographers alone. Thank you for your wisdom.

    • @EldocSabote
      @EldocSabote Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thanks will visit next time in TX

    • @AlfFieldArt
      @AlfFieldArt Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yup. How many times have you been told by a total beginner to shoot a sunset. I will never shoot a sunset ever, because they happen every single day, and I refuse to follow that lazy route. If I want to see a sunset picture, I'll search google...

    • @burneshollyman2621
      @burneshollyman2621 Před 6 měsíci

      I find Sean Tucker my all-time favorite on CZcams. He is an amazing guy and his videos are perfect. @@DJVARAO

  • @AmorLucisPhotography
    @AmorLucisPhotography Před 6 měsíci +149

    I've thought a lot about this. There are two questions every photographer needs to ask themselves: 1) Why do I **make** my photographs? 2) Why do I **share** my photographs. The answers will be different for different people, are often confused with each other, but are rarely the same. One connecting theme, at least for anyone who aspires to make art through their photography, is authentic self-expression. This should be the goal of art (not uniqueness, as some think). For me, at least, I make photographs with the goal of making images that I love; that I can then hang on my wall and smile and remember and feel again that moment of wonder. I want to capture the fleeting experience of my life as beautifully and faithfully as I can. This is self-expression with the emphasis on self. For that, no one's judgment matters but my own. But I share my images with the goal of **connecting** with others - **sharing** my self, my experience, and my feelings - and I do that, I think, to seek communion with others. Simon Baxter understands this distinction, and I think all of us would do well to embrace it.

    • @photobizmethod
      @photobizmethod Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's how I felt in the beginning of my career for sure and it's awesome BUT then I wanted to serve others and boy that was hard to figure out but I did and do and WOWZA what a better feeling in my life that I have with what I create :)

    • @bondgabebond4907
      @bondgabebond4907 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Hanging a picture on a wall is the fun thing to do with a photograph. Sadly, most people wouldn't know a great work of art from a fast food hamburger. But for us, it is a hobby first, a way of documenting our life and many times, just for fun. Taking pictures of family and friends gets far more attention than a rotting tree in a forest. We like the tree, everyone else likes pictures of themselves and family. Quite simple. We have to know our target audience, the critics and family/friends. Most of the time, we do it for our personal satisfaction. And let's be real, there are trillions of photos out there that look the same, cover everything in existence and beyond so we should not get too excited about being THE greatest. We are but one in a million photographers.

    • @Kiwicruiser355
      @Kiwicruiser355 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Agree, yesterday I framed an photo I took with a 2004 6mp camera. I absolutely love this scene. I have taken thousands of photos over the years, nobody sees what I see in this one image, I don't care.

    • @carolwatts944
      @carolwatts944 Před měsícem +1

      Sean, I appreciate this take on “popular” work vs “mature” work. I do post on FB and find that the Likes are for the typical (easy) pieces, while the images that are kinda beyond my “norm,” are not so popular. I’ve been shooting for over 20 yrs & believe that my images have improved. When I “step out” of the norm, I don’t receive as many likes. Initially, I thought that I was just not doing a good job. After listening to your video here, I’m thinking that perhaps I’m moving beyond my friends/acquaintances appreciations. Sigh. I really am not sure, but making art pieces that are different and a bit out of my own comfort zone bring me more pleasure than the same ol’, same ol.’

  • @bwaide
    @bwaide Před 6 měsíci +262

    Reminded me of Vivian Meier, who took over 100,000 photos throughout her life that were only discovered after her death. She took photographs for her own pleasure and for her own sake and never received any reward - or “likes” so to speak. Unless you're a professional who makes a living at it, ask yourself why you're so upset about the lack of appreciation from others. Our deepest, most sincere values ​​are visible in the things we do, even when no one else cares or sees.

    • @DennisFreeland
      @DennisFreeland Před 6 měsíci +11

      Yes her story and discovery after her death is what got me into street photography If the motivbation is internally driven then there is no need for instagram and the like

    • @slothsarecool
      @slothsarecool Před 6 měsíci +6

      she was a bit nuts though 😅

    • @simonvanderheijden432
      @simonvanderheijden432 Před 6 měsíci +17

      @@slothsarecool The line between being nuts and being a genius is often very thin.

    • @JohnDoe-gb3zh
      @JohnDoe-gb3zh Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@slothsarecool I am following in her footsteps - I took 12,000 photos over the course of 2 days at US Open Tennis championship 😁

    • @MrJaras1987
      @MrJaras1987 Před 6 měsíci +4

      After I've read about Vivian I was wondering was there more similar "stories" , but the box with film or photos were just put into trash or something. I think her story is truly inspiring and quite motivating during our times, when photography is so mass because of smartphones and most probably there is only one person who really cares about your photography - it's you 🙃

  • @brianmchugh6145
    @brianmchugh6145 Před 6 měsíci +49

    This was so timely for me Sean. I have been shooting for over 15 years. I was invited to participate in my first group photography show in an art gallery. The show comes down next week and I have sold nothing. One of the other photographers exhibiting work shoots and edits their work on their iPhone. They have sold multiple pieces, which leaves me scratching my head. I realize sales do not equate to quality or ability, but it is hard to ignore. I am proud of my work and feel my skill as a photographer has steadily grown. I shoot for myself, which is what I need to remind myself. Thanks again, Sean

    • @photobizmethod
      @photobizmethod Před 6 měsíci +13

      What happened is that the people who came to the show weren't your ideal clients. THEY are out there, trust me!

    • @mrcojocaru
      @mrcojocaru Před 5 měsíci

      Aww dang. I can totally understand that. It's still pretty awesome that you were featured in a show, though! I get jazzed when a friend uses one of my picture as a wallpaper for a while lol.

    • @SWWWS91
      @SWWWS91 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@photobizmethodor they aren't and your work isn't as good as you think it is?

    • @bladerealm124
      @bladerealm124 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Out of curiousity what are your thoughts on the other photographers iphone photos? Were they simple and loud or complex and nuanced? Did you enjoy them? Were they of a different genre than your work?

    • @jomohke
      @jomohke Před měsícem +1

      Agreed with @bladerealm124 - I wouldn't discount a photographer purely because they used a phone. A lot of great photographers in history have used cameras with significantly lower quality sensors.
      The more common trap is the opposite - people assume that a great camera will make their pictures great.
      That, and the subject of this video, are both dangerous because some people will use it as an excuse to stop improving themselves.

  • @kevvondragon
    @kevvondragon Před 2 dny

    Learning to not just post consistently to please the algorithm and post pieces that are not meant for that kind of social media and audience, but holding back for when you might have the right space to share that type of work is extremely important.

  • @user-uq1sg3kl1z
    @user-uq1sg3kl1z Před 6 měsíci +21

    Great thoughts that reflect my experiences. I live near Hamburg, where it's easy to take those high-contrast black and white photos that are hyped on social media. The first pictures make me proud, but it quickly became boring. I took the "Dumbo Manhattan Bridge View" with my iPhone this year, it didn't take a minute and I got likes. On the other hand, it's a real challenge for me to capture the simple beauty of the salt marshes on the North Sea with their muted colours and minimalist structures, and my best pictures will hardly get any likes on social media.

  • @DunkelRuhrOutdoors
    @DunkelRuhrOutdoors Před 6 měsíci +14

    Art needs no confirmation from others, it's the own soul that's tells us if it's meaningful or not.

    • @cliveadams7629
      @cliveadams7629 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Unless you want to eat and have a roof over your head.

    • @PippetWhippet
      @PippetWhippet Před měsícem

      @@cliveadams7629Not every artists want or need to sell their art. Indeed, most artists never do. Of those who do, frighteningly few are successful enough that they can pursue their art without compromising it to make it more likely to sell. It’s okay to sell out, just don’t pretend your art is meaningful anymore.
      As a practical example, the wedding photographer who takes the same bland portraits every couple wants and expects. Are we supposed to believe that all wedding photographers are in some sort of hive mind and share the exact same taste? Of course not. They compromise their integrity to make a product the client wants. That’s not a criticism, I admire the skill it takes. But it’s no more art than the plumbing in my house, the wiring loom in my car or the detection of the Higgs boson.

    • @cliveadams7629
      @cliveadams7629 Před měsícem

      @@PippetWhippet So you wouldn't count Dali as an artist? Fair enough.

  • @sbai4319
    @sbai4319 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What I have found in my work is that I now need to work on projects, themed work that is considered and consistent in its style and theme!

  • @warrickcoe5576
    @warrickcoe5576 Před 15 dny

    Easily the best photography channel on youtube. Stopping and thinking about what it is we do, and who we do it for, is important. How do we negotiate social media and its impact on our own work as photographers whether professional or amateur.

  • @mattkolf9689
    @mattkolf9689 Před 6 měsíci +28

    Be careful, just because an image is hard to make doesn't mean it's actually better!

    • @pest174
      @pest174 Před 6 měsíci +2

      This too. Way too many people overly complete an image, and at times it comes out bland/flat.

  • @soccerjockey
    @soccerjockey Před 6 měsíci +6

    Just in time for my breakfast. Love a Sunday sermon from Friar Tuck!

  • @kevlally
    @kevlally Před 6 měsíci +34

    Sean Tucker, his work and colleagues have character.
    Thanks for making this world that bit better Sean and co.

  • @stevehayward1854
    @stevehayward1854 Před 6 měsíci +3

    A famous photographer in the sixties, his name escapes me now, said and it shocked me totally at the time, that he "couldnt understand why amateur photographers took photos".
    I believe it was directed at the fact that we don't sell or exhibit but that has changed today, entering competitions I do know, I am the only one that cares about my images.

  • @helloabwatson
    @helloabwatson Před 6 měsíci +17

    This is why I’ve started to move towards gallery walls and zine/books for my work now. Wonderful video, been having these feeling for a while.

  • @shaun53355
    @shaun53355 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I find that social media images need to have an big immediate impact to the viewer, myself like Simon enjoying the woodlands creating images that some have low impact on these platforms But when these images are on a A3 paper of choice, then it holds the viewers eye of natural beauty.

  • @MrSpiff9
    @MrSpiff9 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think there is also the third type of photographer that "likes" other's works. Ones, possibly like me, who have been a professional photographer for a long time (since 1976 for me) and appreciate the work of others, and to support those photographers visions. Yes, there is an over abundance of likes on images that are gratuitous that may have little skill or technique, but on social media there will always be those types. As a good friend of mine once said; "Sure, you can make a pretty image of a pretty person or location, but rarely do those 'photographers' make a compelling and emotionally captivating image". Thank you for sharing with us Sean, and thank you again for The Meaning of the Making books!

  • @ankhira8256
    @ankhira8256 Před 6 měsíci

    Fotografie ist für mein Herz.....und solange man selbst seine Fotos toll findet und Spaß daran hat, ist es nebensächlich wieviel Menschen das Bild gefällt oder nicht

  • @burneshollyman2621
    @burneshollyman2621 Před 2 měsíci

    One last thought on all this (provoked by yet another brilliant video by Sean) is that we can kid ourselves into thinking because we have no recognition that we can do great work for ourselves. That we are a unique snowflake that nobody has ever seen. That we are that tree that falls in the woods that nobody hears. Because my father was a well-known photographer, (and I see this as a gallery owner when asked for shows), growing up I got to meet and know many of the greats, ranging from Richard Avedon to Diane Arbus, Elliot Erwitt, Annie Leibovitz, Arnold Neuman, W. Eugene Smith, Slim Aarons, Irving Penn, and on and on. And one thing I observed in all of them - their most common shared trait besides raw talent - and why they all got noticed and on the map, (while having brilliant work of course) is that they were all, to a person, major hustlers, salesmen and self-promoters and marketers; and some indeed were true hucksters. None of them had small egos, and all took themselves deadly seriously. It should also be noted this was before photography became something available on millions and millions of phones. The cavalcade of brilliant images out there now rivals some of the best work I have seen. For me, when people ask me what a "real" photographer is these days, I come down to intent. Real photographers commit fully to the work, see it as the main thrust of their lives and pursue it day in and day out. It has nothing to do with being a "professional". They do want to show their work to communicate with the world through images. The rest of us? We take pictures and maybe that is enough. But when someone approaches me for a show, I look for someone with serious intent, not whether or not they are a hack wedding photographer or are a "professional". The difference between a "pro" and an "amateur" is irrelevant. For me intent and the ability of the photographer to show me one true thing is all I look for.

  • @christianzuniga9961
    @christianzuniga9961 Před 6 měsíci +18

    As an economist (amateur photographer) I must say that the concept of “sales man” is precise. The elements and values ​​that you describe are those that I learned in my university studies. Thank you so much for the video !

  • @alexlee3227
    @alexlee3227 Před 6 měsíci +28

    This came at the right time for me, just when I think I’m sharing my best photos, the ones that show my growth as a photographer, the engagement has dropped off a cliff. I’m choosing to believe in myself, but there is that voice in the back of my head that says “what if you’re just not very good?”. This video is encouraging and helps to remind me to not worry about social media and to keep taking photos, and do that for me. If I’m good, and deserve recognition, I’ll get that eventually. In the meantime, I should just enjoy the process of learning and the thrill of being out there taking it all in.

    • @ssgg23
      @ssgg23 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I think this is a huge thing to be aware of with the Instagram space. People follow accounts because they like to see a consistent brand presented to them, not because they want to see the photographer’s individual growth. The skill needed to succeed there is less brilliance at photography and artistic skill as it is marketing and branding strategy.

    • @luciano2166
      @luciano2166 Před 5 měsíci

      Can i see your photos?

    • @alexlee3227
      @alexlee3227 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah sure! @mr_lee_does_photography

    • @luciano2166
      @luciano2166 Před 5 měsíci

      @@alexlee3227 I'll check it out. Thanks.

  • @VaraPappas
    @VaraPappas Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is a conversation I've been trying to have with other photographers for years. This was so well done, and reaffirming. Thank you for making this.

  • @ericweiss2913
    @ericweiss2913 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank-you for pointing out this issue. I continue to shoot almost exclusively with film. I’ve been doing so for the last 40 years. And let’s be honest, the worst way to view any art form is on an electronic screen. My photography has surpassed what most of my friends understand. I’ve seen this happen with my other art form: ceramics. I look for nuance and delicate light or form. Most people don’t understand that type of artistic growth. Just look at the screen-saver on your computer. Hyper colors, unrealistic exposures and layered images. The digital “salesman” has lowered the artistic bar and convinced the average consumer of art that only brash and bombastic will work as art. Subtlety and character mean very little today. Please continue to address this issue with the available solutions: like visiting real art galleries on a regular basis or joining a local artists guild/association.

  • @SteveAshdown
    @SteveAshdown Před 6 měsíci +4

    interesting that you’re talking about your audience as being photographers. I’ve never really thought of photographers as being the people I want most to be looking at my images. It’s too tempting for us to make comparisons with our own work or become distracted by the how rather than the why to be an objective and fully appreciative audience.

    • @photobizmethod
      @photobizmethod Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yep, for YEARS my audience wasn't photographers. I feel that's why photographers give up so fast or they end up teaching photography like I did later in my career. I WILL say I still license my work and I feel much happier than teaching how I shot my work :)

  • @ValkiriStudio
    @ValkiriStudio Před 6 měsíci +22

    Hi Sean,
    I don't tend to comment much, though I've watched all your videos and bought your photography books. I just wanted to say your channel is my favorite on CZcams because of your depth and thought-provoking content. Thank you for what you make.

  • @jonathanramsdell906
    @jonathanramsdell906 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for very eloquently stating something that has been at the back of my mind for the past few years.

  • @RichardTallent
    @RichardTallent Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great insight. I could care less about "likes" and "followers," but I do need to "market" because I shoot human models, so I need volunteers. And those volunteers, by and large, are people I'll only meet if I'm active on social media, getting enough like-juice to be seen, and capture their attention instantly when they scroll by. My more complex work rarely if ever gets posted. The models of course expect our shoot to mostly result in more of my (somewhat) soecial media friendly work from the past, with their own face swapped in, because they are *also* hoping to attract the attention of...you guessed it... beginner photographers and models who follow them. Can't just pay models to shoot what I want, wish I had that financial freedom, so I just have to give the people what they want, and spend a *little* of each shoot also doing more experimental work that hopefully, some day, will have a venue and an audience who can appreciate it.

  • @preverted
    @preverted Před měsícem

    I still find it fascinating when I read in an interview with a musician that they don't really like their most popular song or that they didn't even want to include a specific song on an album and this song became extremely popular.
    It's like once a piece of art is released, there's a sort of reset, a disconnect from the artists intention and they exist in a sort of neutral space until people have formed their own opinion about it.

  • @LisaFrostPhoto
    @LisaFrostPhoto Před 6 měsíci +9

    This entire video is wonderful, but the comparison of character vs personality is absolute gold. Thanks again Sean (and Simon) for more worthwhile philosophy for me to mull on.

  • @chamereorr676
    @chamereorr676 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That “character vs personality” breakdown was really insightful. Thanks Sean

  • @peterannear
    @peterannear Před 6 měsíci +2

    Lovely reminder. I care about my photography. Everyone else needs to show me. I actually have some pretty supportive experienced and talented photographers in my sphere, but the haters can get wild if they think I challenge their world view. Better to just do me. Thanks for this

  • @thepathofbri
    @thepathofbri Před 6 měsíci +2

    Sincere gratitude for just being you. I know you have helped me many times to “keep it real”.

  • @saarin0tsorry
    @saarin0tsorry Před 6 měsíci +16

    My wife and I watched this with our morning coffee. So timely and needed in our journeys! Thanks for doing what you do and for providing such great teaching. Cheers ☕️

  • @TheUrbandilema
    @TheUrbandilema Před 6 měsíci +13

    Man you hit the point here up to today I was thinking of this
    Don't please the machine and socials
    please yourself and grow as an artist
    Kudos sir I love these videos and interviews very inspiring and informative

  • @PhotoKen
    @PhotoKen Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you for the reminder. Sometimes, I lose sight of the key "beginner" factor you talk about here.

  • @Rhoadey
    @Rhoadey Před 6 měsíci +7

    Far and away one of the most thoughtful CZcamsrs speaking to creatives today. Excellent stuff, Sean-increasingly glad I found your channel amongst all the gear reviews and hype videos.

  • @mattbibbings
    @mattbibbings Před 6 měsíci +7

    So well articulated. Unfortunately, many people still perfectly equate likes with inherent worth; it is a powerful drug. Many will be happy to stay on that Merry-go-round forever. How many genuine talents will be lost to this diversion we will never know.

  • @chrisstewart6208
    @chrisstewart6208 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Great video. This reminds me of Fred Herzog, considered a pioneer of colour photography in the 1950’s and 60’s. It was very difficult to print colour photos back then, so he kept taking pictures of life in East Vancouver, and working as a medical photographer. His work was not really recognized until he was 77 years old, but it did not matter. He did not do it money of fame. He just kept up taking photos, pushing that rock up the hill.

  • @seanbirtwistle649
    @seanbirtwistle649 Před 6 měsíci +3

    the size of the picture you're looking at also plays a large role in how its digested. 1 photo might have to be printed to A0 to appreciate, while others are better viewed small and quickly, like on a phone or in a book.
    I think we're at an interesting time in the history of photography because of A: there's a lot of different ways to appreciate a photo. and B: so many more people are improving their understanding of photos, how to read them, that it's pushing towards a global language.
    the key is to understand the importance of sharing, how and why, moving into the future. photography isn't just an art for art snobs anymore

  • @CC3GROUNDZERO
    @CC3GROUNDZERO Před 6 měsíci +1

    This applies not only to social media. I usually get the most positive feedback from friends and family for the most basic techniques. For most people, a simple long exposure will do the trick. "How did you get the train to be transparent?! That looks so cool, you can see the platform behind it! That's real art!!"

  • @robertoepiscopo6558
    @robertoepiscopo6558 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It is so true, it applies to any art form, do you see often jazz in the top chart? It is typically pop. But the jazz players enjoy a different stage… they don’t expect the platinum disk, not because they do not deserve, simply a different audience

  • @MW-py7jz
    @MW-py7jz Před 6 měsíci +2

    Very true. Thank you! What we should remember here however is that people who are using Instagram and other platforms watch images on the small screen of their smartphones and we as photographers should know that rules of composition work differently for small picture size of the phone and big one like painting half the wall size. It's good to present the image in a way (size) that matches it's composition and character.

  • @harmanhamiltonadventures3788
    @harmanhamiltonadventures3788 Před 6 měsíci +1

    On the other hand, it seems we share our work because we want to communicate something. Sometimes we need to speak the other person's language to get a point across. I can't speak German to a Chinese-speaking audience and expect them to get all my ideas. I have to learn the nuances of Chinese is I want that audience to "get" what I'm trying to say. As you suggested, maybe sometimes we can get caught up trying to communicate to the wrong audience. AmorLucisPhotography distinguished between why we make photographs vs why we share photographs. Many times I make a photograph because the act of capturing gives me pleasure and I print it because the continued viewing also gives me pleasure. Sometimes I tweak a print or digital image in ways that might make my idea a little more clear to my target audience. That concept of character vs personality struck home. Character could be likened to sharing because I want you to understand what I'm trying to say. Personality could be likened to sharing because I want you to like me.
    Last thought: Federico Fellini said something to the effect of "There is something about the creative mind that feels compelled to narrate the world to other people."

  • @GediAstro
    @GediAstro Před 6 měsíci +3

    My opinion is that you're absolutely correct. It also applies to CZcams. I'd love to watch some advanced topic sometime, but it seems like everyone are doing the same "top 10" clickbaits over and over again. Getting watch hours and likes. This unfortunately also includes me. I target my videos mostly to beginners, because that's where the interest lies. When I cover a more advanced topic, I always seem to get less traction on those videos. Great thoughts, will take them with me in the future and think about my strategies and choises. Thanks S.

  • @JulieLandrieu
    @JulieLandrieu Před 6 měsíci +1

    Oomph Sean, I felt tears coming up. I find huge comfort in this framing. Thank you.

    • @seantuck
      @seantuck  Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's great to hear.

  • @stephenemmas9899
    @stephenemmas9899 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think the fine art passion projects can be best displayed in a gallery… and the social media shows your opening night…

  • @hanzandfranz5337
    @hanzandfranz5337 Před 5 měsíci

    I started photography about 2 years ago. I really enjoy it, and find a lot of personal satisfaction when i can get that one good photo. And I also really enjoy editing. I do post my photos online, but i only do that, so i place a place to put my work. The only people who see those photos are my parents and siblings. This is ok with me. I still really enjoy photography and am not getting burnt out on it.

  • @alpao74
    @alpao74 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Simon's "I want to speak for the trees" is enough to make the video worth watching for me. Great content as usual. And on the subject itself... Your eyes are the only clients to please, the only ones whose enjoyment will really make the endeavour worth. 😊

  • @spiffyspider7272
    @spiffyspider7272 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I’ve run into this. It really messed with my confidence until I realized what was happening. I’ve started posting less and it’s really helped.

  • @tjcuneo
    @tjcuneo Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent. Thanks

  • @donyee8970
    @donyee8970 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wonderful perspective. Thank you.

  • @johnjacob7287
    @johnjacob7287 Před 6 měsíci

    Such an important message.. thanks for sharing 🙏🏽

  • @jon6346
    @jon6346 Před 6 měsíci

    Outstanding, and (as you said) not just for photographers.

  • @omadlom
    @omadlom Před 6 měsíci +1

    Such an insightful video as ever. Cheers Sean

  • @eastbaystreet1242
    @eastbaystreet1242 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Fascinating insights. Thank you.

  • @danevarkevisser4670
    @danevarkevisser4670 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Agree. I have never thought social media is the right place to be looking for affirmation or criticism of your work. As you rightly point out most of those commenting and liking are novices. They have never studied photography or art for that matter in a meaningful way. The best photographers are those who have a quiet confidence in what they do and will not be led by the crowd. This needs a bit of courage. Simon Baxter is a great example. I love his approach to woodland photography. If I was looking for affirmation of my photography, I would seek it from photographers I admire not Instagram.

  • @AliasJimWirth
    @AliasJimWirth Před 6 měsíci +3

    This is all quite encouraging. Thank you, Sean.

  • @JumpingWill
    @JumpingWill Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing this.

  • @michaelrobinsonphotography6552
    @michaelrobinsonphotography6552 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Food for thought, thank you for your fresh perspective! I look forward to following your channel.

  • @Sebastian-lw1ei
    @Sebastian-lw1ei Před 6 měsíci

    Great advice! Thank you for sharing

  • @shanewbrock
    @shanewbrock Před 4 měsíci

    An absolutely necessary conversation to be had - something worth thinking on.

  • @johnlanagan5735
    @johnlanagan5735 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Brilliant. Very insightful.

  • @ethanmarston_
    @ethanmarston_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video, always a joy when you upload Sean.

  • @olgadekell
    @olgadekell Před 6 měsíci +1

    Interesting food for thought🤔, thanks for posting 👍!

  • @suekonvalinkova4857
    @suekonvalinkova4857 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Love how you reframed thinking about social media attention there. As deep as always. Thank you from the heart for what you're doing Sean.

  • @jaynamyet7221
    @jaynamyet7221 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you! I needed to hear this!!!!

  • @Ed-davies
    @Ed-davies Před 6 měsíci

    Absolutely hit the nail on the head with this Sean. Top job.

  • @PhilT993
    @PhilT993 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very interesting observations! Thank you.

  • @deanengelmann2907
    @deanengelmann2907 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you Sean! They information you share and the way you share it is simply amazing. Thank you for the inspiration and your honest wisdom. You make us all better by what you do.

  • @futureexperience
    @futureexperience Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for making this video and the message contained in it. The ending statements really brought home the feeling that I think a lot of us longer term photographers are starting to feel. Great to see Simon also embracing this idea of context in how he approaches taking and sharing his work.

  • @davidburchettephotography6513

    Thank you for this conversation.

  • @stevengroom6484
    @stevengroom6484 Před 6 měsíci

    As always, loving your insights into things. Not much else to say, really, spot-on 👍🏻

  • @IVMTAB
    @IVMTAB Před 6 měsíci +1

    This was a great thought. Thanks for sharing it so articulately for us!

  • @recervs5324
    @recervs5324 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Maxing video and interview, thank you!!

  • @AdrianIII
    @AdrianIII Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this! Good insights.

  • @Adilboukind
    @Adilboukind Před 6 měsíci +1

    Beautifuly said !

  • @capturedbytymel
    @capturedbytymel Před 6 měsíci +8

    This has to be the most impactful video I have watched and heard in such a long time. Everything the both of you said was true - I have grown a lot as a photogrpaher and I am also guilty of passing by photos I used to like when I was a beginner. I learned to just post what I like for me and for those who appreciate my work. I don't care about likes or engagement as much as I used to.

    • @photobizmethod
      @photobizmethod Před 6 měsíci +1

      right! It's not the numbers it's the ideal people who YOU value

  • @thibaultjanson3513
    @thibaultjanson3513 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this inspiring video ! 🙏😊

  • @davidhunternyc1
    @davidhunternyc1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Also, many photographers ignore the greats of the past and fine art photography. Originality is key. A few months ago I saw a devastating exhibition of young girls with Down syndrome by Dorothy Lange. I've seen equally stunning shows by Francesca Woodman, Stieglitz, Crewdson, Struth, Cindy Sherman, Rodney Graham, Hiroshi Sugimoto, Marilyn Minter, Catherine Opie, Jeff Wall, Mapplethorpe, and perhaps my favorite, the photograms of Adam Fuss. There are many celebrated and great photographers alive today, perhaps the most in history. The likelihood of taking your camera, and clicking off a photo of a landscape or a person and expecting great photography is next to nothing. Great photographers must study art history.
    _"Do something. Do something to it. Do something else to it."_ - Jasper Johns

  • @RideandRemember
    @RideandRemember Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very true and I can't agree more. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

  • @joshallanfilmandmusic
    @joshallanfilmandmusic Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for this video! I've been watching your channel for years and it's been super helpful and inspiring. One of my favourite things about your videos is the mature, simple and slower-paced approach. Thanks and hope you're doing well. :)

  • @andrealosi6659
    @andrealosi6659 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video Sean, thanks

  • @danielbrehmer4912
    @danielbrehmer4912 Před 6 měsíci

    Eye-opening reflexions, well thought thru and well presented! Thank you!!!

  • @richardwojtczak5521
    @richardwojtczak5521 Před 6 měsíci

    Wow. Thank you for this video Sean.

  • @CharlieHagedorn
    @CharlieHagedorn Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think the falloff in social-media engagement is as much a signal of a sort of saturation of that style of engagement in our lives as anything. There are many more venues, and many more people who are skilled at working within those venues.
    I've watched engagement fall by a factor of three or more on essentially-equivalent work. It's not because the work is any different, but because the environment has changed. Each 'like' means a little more these days and when someone whose work I respect engages with the work, well, that's even better.
    It is true that we'll see less initial engagement as we try something new -- that's okay, too. The key in the long-term is to bring together something of what worked for us in the past and our new ideas from today in order to say what needs saying now.
    When Simon says that the spooky-tree image was easy to put together, it was only easy because he's real good at it. I frequently find that the images that are the most meaningful don't turn out to be difficult photographically, but rather that a well-executed image of a story that needs telling is all that's necessary.

  • @fireceremony8573
    @fireceremony8573 Před 6 měsíci

    This makes so much sense! And I needed to hear this today! Thank you! Also, extremely interesting to hear the reflection about character vs personality and the switch from responsible mature adult to salesmen in crowded cities.
    Will certainly keep this video in mind. The growth is so important and is quite unstoppable, no matter the feedback from social media. And that's the way it should be.

  • @carlostochehenderson2990
    @carlostochehenderson2990 Před 6 měsíci

    absolutely love this video...just love it...thank you

  • @keithpinn152
    @keithpinn152 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Sean: This was a very thought provoking video. I must admit that I am trapped in the desire to get 'likes' for my images more than simply creating compositions that "I like". This is the type of video, that I will be book-marking so that I can re-visit it time and time again. Thank you so much for sharing your insights and the segment with Simon was very appropriate. Cheers, Keith (Canada)

  • @freedompanda9438
    @freedompanda9438 Před 4 měsíci

    I like seeing that you’re posting about once a month. I think you’re an important voice in the world of photography. At least, in my world of photography. And to me, that’s what matters. Thank you Sean, for the time you take to create something that is, in its own right, a piece of art.

  • @jeffreyschrompf3762
    @jeffreyschrompf3762 Před 5 měsíci

    This is so true, thank you for sharing this video. It really makes sense and reminded me to stay true to myself and my growth going forward.

  • @DianaLundin
    @DianaLundin Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fantastic video. Lots to think about.

  • @gionedasilva
    @gionedasilva Před 6 měsíci +1

    Half way through the video but felt like commenting already... I truly believe taste is very subjective. The images you shown that you may believe that are better, maybe it's just better in your opinion. Others may just have a different taste and I think that is fine too. Also, most people don't get the meaning we 'apply' to our work, so it's either visual or gut! All counts! Thank you for posting this though 🙏🏽

  • @Sonderia
    @Sonderia Před 6 měsíci +2

    I really need to hear this today. Thank you for your wise perspective on things, as always 💕

  • @Mario_1980
    @Mario_1980 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Always sharp and smart, I love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

  • @Fitzrovialitter
    @Fitzrovialitter Před 6 měsíci

    A cogent analysis.
    I think that the phenomenon you describe is, more broadly, the forum/hobbyist mentality that infests every sphere of knowledge.

  • @johncarnahan4067
    @johncarnahan4067 Před 6 měsíci

    Very good video Sean totally makes sense thank you for sharing it. I follow both Simon and you and is always a pleasure to see the work you both create

  • @yveskeroack1612
    @yveskeroack1612 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you so much for this, you and Simon have put in words some feelings and thoughts I am having since a few months about my work and social media and greatly helped to put some order in this madness! 😁

  • @arocketgal
    @arocketgal Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent commentary and insight in life and in art and how they intersect. Well done Sean. I see why you have over half a million subscribers. Well done indeed. Character over flash. Build depth in your life and in your art. I'm a subscriber now and really look forward to more of your intersection moments.

  • @LensCraftedMomentz
    @LensCraftedMomentz Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting topic... The ephemeral nature of social media can undermine the longevity and significance of your photographs. Posts on platforms like Instagram or Facebook are often buried in a constant stream of content, making it easy for your images to get lost and forgotten over time. Publishing a book, using a gallery, or exploring alternative media offers a more curated and lasting approach to showcasing your photography. A book provides a tangible and enduring format, allowing your audience to engage deeply with your work. Galleries and other platforms dedicated to visual arts often offer a more immersive and controlled environment, ensuring your photos are presented with the context and respect they deserve.

  • @vncdvncd8331
    @vncdvncd8331 Před 6 měsíci

    Sean, I really appreciate your insight, its so refreshing and well thought. Please keep doing this, at your own pace, but keep doing. Thank you

  • @boristahmasian9604
    @boristahmasian9604 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hi Sean, thank you for this insightful video. I am a fan of both your and Simon's work.