7 always wins. The Doctor who's always willing to go the extra mile, even if it sacrifices his morals. He always schemes and is one step ahead. He has the most feats out of any Doctor. He lives up to the title of Time's Champion.
Who wins? The Doctor of course! Well, if you're still not convinced, here's my argument in favor of 11 and another for 7: You may say 7 has the offense and that he's less moral than 11 but that's actually not entirely true. Early 11 would definitely be more like the typical Promise-abiding Doctor due to the post-war stuff and TLV (and remember... this is a guy that regenerated from 10 who almost didn't stop, and in the extended universes he actually didn't and it got worse each incarnation) but late 11 is a man nearing death and he knows better than to simply wage war (which is something the classic Doctors would openly do). And you know what they say about a man nearing death... he does not care and you can see that in Capaldi's Doctor too. Imagine a war hero, a tired old veteran, with little care for anything if it meant saving the universe from a threat. You also shouldn't underestimate the knowledge he amassed over the years since the classic days, the difference is he just uses it a bit more wisely. 7 however was always more cunning than most Doctors, always thinking several steps ahead before actually acting. He's that ominous figure that would not just wait for the pieces, but to bait them into a false sense of confidence until they get trapped in his web. 11 was also one of the few that was just as cunning. 7 eventually becomes the War Doctor after 8 and we know 8 can get really crazy. The early Doctors were also rarely aware of the full consequences of their actions and that's why they had fewer stop buttons. On the other hand, he totally knew he had to dial down after the trial but that level of manipulation opened the door to become a more natural manipulator himself.
I'm a simple Whovian. If I see 7th Doctor, I hit the like button. Funny how the clips = 11th enjoying a trip to the beach with his wife, while 7th is chatting a Supreme Dalek to death.
@@lordsathariel4384 He knows more than the audience 99% of the time. He's the Doctor on a mission to bury gods, monsters and evil so that his next version doesn't have to. Even after all these years, he's still the darkest and coldest Doctor by a long shot.
That's an oversimplification. 11 is a dying man and there's a common thing amongst the Doctors of War - they don't resort to cheap tricks to provoke a threat, they actually warn their foes for their sake and they deliver (well, sometimes it's a bluff, but they usually deliver in the end). 11 was actually the least emotional of them with 10 being on the other end. 11 had his emotional outbursts like any Doctor, but his cold and cunning demeanor is not to be underestimated, as well as his knowledge and creativity to overcome difficulty. If that guy sort out the problems of his previous incarnations, beat his own death and fixed countless fixed points in time... do you really think he's not a menace? Just for the creativity alone, I would say 11 is a scary type of cunning. Sylvester does earn the Scot Doctor points from me. They are typically menaces by nature ;)
They also wrote 7 to NOT have a Sonic Screwdriver (ie. the get-out-of-jail-free card), at least during his TV run. Not sure if he uses it in the comics at any point, but I know he does in the movie + certain audios. Other than that, all he has is his words and his umbrella, with the occasional 'finger poke of doom' to incapacitate people.
Fair IQ and strategy are very close in my opinion but yeah these two are also very close in terms of of my favourite doctor. Also this edit does look a bit cleaner than the last
Cause he isn’t more clever……a time lords intelligence changes during regeneration. Only thing that passes on is core personality traits and *almost* all knowledge.
Can you do the War Master (Prime)+War Doctor (The Moment/Prime) Vs 10th Doctor (Time Lord Victorious)+9th Doctor (Time Vortex)? Also how's life been? Also can you use the rock song Highway To Hell for the edit.
Shouldn’t the 11th / 12th Doctor win? He is hundreds of years more experience and he should logically be smarter since he’s the same character just older. W edit tho.
No he carry’s on the knowledge of his previous selves (well most of it, it’s usual for them to forget things when they regenerate), the actual intelligence of each doctor completely changes, the brain cells and the actual opinions of each doctor are all different + physical capabilities alter to the new body.
Neither of them have incredible strength or dura feats but 11 held a dropping block in ur beloved s7, during rings of akhaten, hanged onto the tradis when it was flying through the air in his first ep and in the Christmas ep he held a door shut when that big ass shark was smashing into it. Durability wise he could tank electricity, was fine when the tardis dropped on him (again in s7, so terrible that u dk this ngl 😂), he also got hit by a car in s6.
@@OnTheHorizon- omg Bro again IK all of that scenes but i thought there were actuall feats in comics or Something 😂. I thought for a Sec you would mean the EP Victory of the daleks where He kicked a dalke or Something 😂 and remember s7 >>>> Most of the other series 💪💪
@@OnTheHorizon- bro you have your takes and I have mine 😂👍 but good job with your edits 💪 i honestly haven't noticed a big diffrence between your old quality and your cuttent one. 🤙👊
@@Spritefightman and none of that matters if ur going to get out thought every step of the way, 7 could manipulate 11 moderately well, river can manipulate 11 with little difficulty most times, he would get played by 7. Also 11s physical capabilities are worthless as he’s got some of the worst combat of any incarnation, 7 could beat him with 1 hand he’s shown that much better combat ability.
@@EasypeasyLemon-squeezy that’s got to be up there with one of the most stupid analogy’s av ever heard no offence mate. The “7 yr old” ur referring to is hundreds of years old. U also definitely don’t know that regeneration is not just a new body and personality, it’s also their intelligence. 7 is 100% more intelligent and ruthless. 11 has knowledge and experience which don’t mean shit if ur just gonna get outthought. Also I take from that response uv never watched, listened or read anything about 7.
@@OnTheHorizon- how did 7 outthough himself who is more older more experienced all of 7 feats are 11 feats but 11 feats are not 7 feats so how did 7 will beat the 11 you're just a fanboy of 7...you will not beat your old self??and i didnt mean the Doctor is 7year old im just here explaining and giving example of you..when you're 7years old vs 11 Years old
@@EasypeasyLemon-squeezy u don’t understand regeneration. Their personalities and Intelligence are completely different, they always change with regeneration. They have different ways of doing things and different capabilities. The analogy of u using “7 yr old vs 11yr old self” is just dumb as it’s nothing like that at all. The doctors regenerations are more like different people than the same and if u can’t understand this very simple idea of what regeneration actually is then this convo is pointless.
Abilities & hax should be the same btw
*question:* is the quality here a tad bit better than last edits??
Yes
Oh 100%
I’d say so
Definitely
definitely
7 always wins. The Doctor who's always willing to go the extra mile, even if it sacrifices his morals. He always schemes and is one step ahead. He has the most feats out of any Doctor. He lives up to the title of Time's Champion.
I think 8s feats are slightly ahead, but no denying 7 is close.
Who wins? The Doctor of course!
Well, if you're still not convinced, here's my argument in favor of 11 and another for 7:
You may say 7 has the offense and that he's less moral than 11 but that's actually not entirely true. Early 11 would definitely be more like the typical Promise-abiding Doctor due to the post-war stuff and TLV (and remember... this is a guy that regenerated from 10 who almost didn't stop, and in the extended universes he actually didn't and it got worse each incarnation) but late 11 is a man nearing death and he knows better than to simply wage war (which is something the classic Doctors would openly do). And you know what they say about a man nearing death... he does not care and you can see that in Capaldi's Doctor too. Imagine a war hero, a tired old veteran, with little care for anything if it meant saving the universe from a threat. You also shouldn't underestimate the knowledge he amassed over the years since the classic days, the difference is he just uses it a bit more wisely.
7 however was always more cunning than most Doctors, always thinking several steps ahead before actually acting. He's that ominous figure that would not just wait for the pieces, but to bait them into a false sense of confidence until they get trapped in his web. 11 was also one of the few that was just as cunning. 7 eventually becomes the War Doctor after 8 and we know 8 can get really crazy. The early Doctors were also rarely aware of the full consequences of their actions and that's why they had fewer stop buttons. On the other hand, he totally knew he had to dial down after the trial but that level of manipulation opened the door to become a more natural manipulator himself.
I'm a simple Whovian. If I see 7th Doctor, I hit the like button. Funny how the clips = 11th enjoying a trip to the beach with his wife, while 7th is chatting a Supreme Dalek to death.
iv watched every doctor over the years 7 just talks and threats start dying it's like he has power word kill or something.
@@lordsathariel4384 He knows more than the audience 99% of the time. He's the Doctor on a mission to bury gods, monsters and evil so that his next version doesn't have to. Even after all these years, he's still the darkest and coldest Doctor by a long shot.
Which incarnation of The Doctor is your favourite?
12
@@OnTheHorizon- you've got good taste
Omg thank you for using my idea
No problem 👌🏻
@OnTheHorizon- Also, the music you picked definitely fits better than what I requested.
And just to ask, how long does it take for you to make these edits?
@@RileyTitchenell about 50min - 1 hour
They both good characters but 7th doctor more of a menace and 11th is more of the emotional type
That's an oversimplification. 11 is a dying man and there's a common thing amongst the Doctors of War - they don't resort to cheap tricks to provoke a threat, they actually warn their foes for their sake and they deliver (well, sometimes it's a bluff, but they usually deliver in the end). 11 was actually the least emotional of them with 10 being on the other end. 11 had his emotional outbursts like any Doctor, but his cold and cunning demeanor is not to be underestimated, as well as his knowledge and creativity to overcome difficulty. If that guy sort out the problems of his previous incarnations, beat his own death and fixed countless fixed points in time... do you really think he's not a menace?
Just for the creativity alone, I would say 11 is a scary type of cunning. Sylvester does earn the Scot Doctor points from me. They are typically menaces by nature ;)
Beautiful edit NGL, Personally I’d give Iq & Strategy to The Eleventh Doctor
its close but I still think 7 takes it even after ur vid
@@OnTheHorizon-that’s fair it was incredibly close
@@Thatpersonthatisprobablynotme it’s close but I don’t think it’s as close as u make it out to be imo 😂
@@OnTheHorizon- maybe, maybe not 🤷♂️
@@OnTheHorizon- 11 is quite literally a war veteran
Could you do all incarnations of the doctor vs all incarnations of the The Master..?
Please more debate edits with doctor who characters,your quality is excellent
“Don’t move” *Ace five seconds later* “*Mad Blabber* YOU MOVED!”
The fact that the 7TH Doctor is one of the strongest doctors without having special weapons like the others is fascinating
he has the umbrella, that's a special weapon
@@kermitenthusiast485 I mean things like the key to time the lux aeterna the moment the type1 tardis you know
7 is just HIM
They also wrote 7 to NOT have a Sonic Screwdriver (ie. the get-out-of-jail-free card), at least during his TV run. Not sure if he uses it in the comics at any point, but I know he does in the movie + certain audios. Other than that, all he has is his words and his umbrella, with the occasional 'finger poke of doom' to incapacitate people.
The quality got better, and the music choice gets better. It still hurts to see my goat get mid diffed.
Fair IQ and strategy are very close in my opinion but yeah these two are also very close in terms of of my favourite doctor. Also this edit does look a bit cleaner than the last
I might even say low-mid diff
Yeah, quality is a bit better than last edits.
Can you make Odin Vs Vidarr? I will wait as long as it needs.
If an older, cleverer, more experienced doctor goes up against his former self with a younger body explain how the hell he loses😂
Cause he isn’t more clever……a time lords intelligence changes during regeneration. Only thing that passes on is core personality traits and *almost* all knowledge.
Fax great edit though 11 is my favourite doctor
Winner: The doctor
Crazy how doctor got dumber 😭
Can you please do 12th Doctor (Rage Amp) vs 11th Doctor (Rage Amp) it would be much appreciated.
Can you do the War Master (Prime)+War Doctor (The Moment/Prime) Vs 10th Doctor (Time Lord Victorious)+9th Doctor (Time Vortex)? Also how's life been? Also can you use the rock song Highway To Hell for the edit.
Please do composite doctor vs composite master
Comp Doctor probably high diffs due to better battle iq and combat
@@livingcoffee_edits true that’s what I was thinking
Awesome
The seventh doctor is my favorite doctor and the eleventh doctor is my first.
Nice pfp Goat
Day 2 of roger delgado edit also w edit plus fax
The diff should be lowered to No - Low Diff imo.
Mid or mid-high seems reasonable, I think mid diff is the lowest I would go for any doctor vs any other doctor
Fax
Its the lookalike mr bean vs the man who forgets
Shouldn’t the 11th / 12th Doctor win? He is hundreds of years more experience and he should logically be smarter since he’s the same character just older. W edit tho.
No he carry’s on the knowledge of his previous selves (well most of it, it’s usual for them to forget things when they regenerate), the actual intelligence of each doctor completely changes, the brain cells and the actual opinions of each doctor are all different + physical capabilities alter to the new body.
wallahi
My goat is finished…
Btw where is the 7th Doctor’s voice line from?
the show, his very first story as the doctor
That would be "Time and the Rani" (Season 24). Sadly, both the story - and the season - are his least popular.
Whats actually the audio music from it.
What are the strength and dura feats of 11?
Neither of them have incredible strength or dura feats but 11 held a dropping block in ur beloved s7, during rings of akhaten, hanged onto the tradis when it was flying through the air in his first ep and in the Christmas ep he held a door shut when that big ass shark was smashing into it.
Durability wise he could tank electricity, was fine when the tardis dropped on him (again in s7, so terrible that u dk this ngl 😂), he also got hit by a car in s6.
@@OnTheHorizon- omg Bro again IK all of that scenes but i thought there were actuall feats in comics or Something 😂. I thought for a Sec you would mean the EP Victory of the daleks where He kicked a dalke or Something 😂 and remember s7 >>>> Most of the other series 💪💪
@@progamer1118 still no one gonna free with that take 😂😂😂
@@OnTheHorizon- bro you have your takes and I have mine 😂👍 but good job with your edits 💪 i honestly haven't noticed a big diffrence between your old quality and your cuttent one. 🤙👊
@@progamer1118 that’s good to hear
W
How tf is it just mid diff?
Cause 7 is so much smarter and ruthless, anyone who’s knowledgeable on 7s audios and comics knows this
@@OnTheHorizon- I get that, but 11 is faster, more experienced and stronger (I agree don’t worry) I just need to know
@@Spritefightman and none of that matters if ur going to get out thought every step of the way, 7 could manipulate 11 moderately well, river can manipulate 11 with little difficulty most times, he would get played by 7.
Also 11s physical capabilities are worthless as he’s got some of the worst combat of any incarnation, 7 could beat him with 1 hand he’s shown that much better combat ability.
@@OnTheHorizon- makes sense, thanks, I just needed clarification
@@OnTheHorizon- and btw, I love your recent edits, their amazing
11 solo all of his regeneration just by saying he's the Doctor and they will be basically run
……..u dk much about 7 do u? 😂😂
@@OnTheHorizon- 7 is past incarnation of the doctor...you CAN'T beat 7 Years old of you when you're 11years old?
@@EasypeasyLemon-squeezy that’s got to be up there with one of the most stupid analogy’s av ever heard no offence mate. The “7 yr old” ur referring to is hundreds of years old. U also definitely don’t know that regeneration is not just a new body and personality, it’s also their intelligence. 7 is 100% more intelligent and ruthless. 11 has knowledge and experience which don’t mean shit if ur just gonna get outthought. Also I take from that response uv never watched, listened or read anything about 7.
@@OnTheHorizon- how did 7 outthough himself who is more older more experienced all of 7 feats are 11 feats but 11 feats are not 7 feats so how did 7 will beat the 11 you're just a fanboy of 7...you will not beat your old self??and i didnt mean the Doctor is 7year old im just here explaining and giving example of you..when you're 7years old vs 11 Years old
@@EasypeasyLemon-squeezy u don’t understand regeneration. Their personalities and Intelligence are completely different, they always change with regeneration. They have different ways of doing things and different capabilities. The analogy of u using “7 yr old vs 11yr old self” is just dumb as it’s nothing like that at all. The doctors regenerations are more like different people than the same and if u can’t understand this very simple idea of what regeneration actually is then this convo is pointless.
Fax