Woodworking for Beginners 04 - Finger (Box) joints

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  • čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
  • Starting a box. How to make finger joints, and how to lay out box parts for grain matching.
    Previous videos in the series can be found here:
    • Woodworking for Beginn...
    • Woodworking for Beginn...
    • Woodworking for Beginn...
    Main CZcams Channel:
    / womadeod
    Website:
    www.womadeod.co.uk
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Komentáře • 160

  • @JROC2112
    @JROC2112 Před 5 lety +83

    Great video. Nice to see someone do woodworking without a massive workshop full of table saws and power tools.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety +3

      Thanks. All future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/channels/HNLNiFWZcy39ew7OskHdtw.html

    • @ATerriblepurpose
      @ATerriblepurpose Před 4 lety +3

      John C exactly. I’ve been trying to get into woodworking but most tutorials have guides based on table saws, routers, planners etc.

    • @bryanstellfox8521
      @bryanstellfox8521 Před 3 lety +2

      TRUTH!! My daughter had her first communion, and received several expensive necklaces and crosses. I'm making her a special handmade jewelry box, because I want her to have something she can keep those pieces, and the box, for the rest of her life, as well as pass it down. I've been watching videos on dovetails and box joints, and most of the videos are literally just guys talking about power tools...most videos use no less than 5 very expensive, pro level power tools, including specialty table saws, router tables, plunge routers, miter saws, etc. Theres nothing wrong with power tools, but damn, whatever happened to a hack saw and chisel??

    • @nicolaskorbyn6448
      @nicolaskorbyn6448 Před 3 lety

      @Boone Samuel definitely, have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself :)

    • @landrydominic412
      @landrydominic412 Před 3 lety

      @Boone Samuel yea, have been using Flixzone} for years myself =)

  • @batchrocketproject4720
    @batchrocketproject4720 Před měsícem

    I love this demonstration and it contains much wisdom, thanks. My father was a carpenter and I remember as a child marveling at the box joints he would make on even quite wide boards (8" or so boards with 1/2" fingers), perfectly symmetrical, all cut by hand. He died over 40 years ago but I still use his dividers, in fact they're right here on my desk as I type. Your markup was perfect. I don't think my father would be impressed with your 'toy' saw (as he might have called it, no offense intended!), as he used a ~12 tpi tenon saw for all joints, cleaning up with razor-sharp chisel. He also eschewed the coping saw as he could rapidly hog out the fingers with chisel and mallet before paring to the line by hand. There are few things more pleasant on the eye than a well proportioned and symmetrical box joint and I'll be using your guidance to more often include them in my projects. Thanks again, really enjoyed this. 💯👏

  • @philipallen4601
    @philipallen4601 Před 4 lety +3

    Brilliant. Not only is this clear and using hand tools, but you admit to the mistakes that all of us make and show how to sort it. Thank you

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Philip. There won't be any more videos here, BUT plenty more on my main channel czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @nolanstephenson2599
    @nolanstephenson2599 Před 5 lety +21

    This is great, I've been scouring CZcams for videos on practicing woodworking with more hand tools and couldn't find anything until this! I appreciate you doing this, very informative

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks Nolan. Please note that further tutorials in this series will be hosted on my main channel only. Cheers

    • @wheremylifego3790
      @wheremylifego3790 Před 4 lety

      @@getintowoodwork hi what's the name of.your main channel please .

    • @mitchwoodwork
      @mitchwoodwork Před 4 lety

      "Aah Woodworking with Mitch Peacock", which you can find here: czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @existesters4002
    @existesters4002 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video and thank you for sharing, what a refreshing change for a tutorial to show you how to create a lovely looking but simple wood joint without using table saws, jigs etc. Well done...I need more videos like this, instead of these fully loaded/kitted out workshops. This was perfect !

  • @16jacka
    @16jacka Před 4 lety +2

    Super helpful, been trying to find a well explained video where a table saw isn't used, this is perfect thank you!

  • @n.c.108
    @n.c.108 Před 3 lety

    You made the best video for making basic finger joints, and thank you! I have been searching and found that other CZcams channels just make it seem too damn difficult, add unnecessary steps, and use very expensive tools. Yours is straight forward and complete. Thanks

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @737smartin
    @737smartin Před 3 lety +3

    Really appreciate the “matching end grain” demo. Succinct and well done! 👍

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @melindajohnson3394
    @melindajohnson3394 Před 6 lety +2

    Just the videos I've been looking for to learn hand cut joinery.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 6 lety

      Thanks. Let me know how you get on with these finger joints

  • @NasimMahmud
    @NasimMahmud Před 3 lety

    Excellent tutorial. I watched many such videos, and got the 'feel of it' with this one. Appreciate it.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @mamabearssheshedtracykeato6941

    Very good video! Very informative and quick to the point. Thank you very much for sharing.

  • @OscarAbarcaChinchilla
    @OscarAbarcaChinchilla Před 5 lety +2

    This an amazing video, this it’s going to be my first project . Thanks a lot for the inspiration.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. All future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/channels/HNLNiFWZcy39ew7OskHdtw.html

  • @vanscran1672
    @vanscran1672 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant, simple tools and no power tools is what makes the whole process enjoyable.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @VindictiveMoose
    @VindictiveMoose Před 3 měsíci

    Great video. I was just getting into basic woodworking with hand tools since I don't have the space or money for power tools. This was exactly what I was looking for because most videos are using power tools.

  • @TheWoodYogi
    @TheWoodYogi Před 6 lety +1

    This series of videos will become a fantastic resource for beginners in the future Mitch :) Great job ॐ

  • @Maxwell7724
    @Maxwell7724 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm on the fence about using power tools vs hand tools. This is by far the best video for handcutting dox joints. Good job.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. All future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/channels/HNLNiFWZcy39ew7OskHdtw.html

  • @steveneugene339
    @steveneugene339 Před 4 lety +1

    This is going to be great with my scroll saw also .Awesome video.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety

      Cheers. Please note all future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @nervouspenguins9982
    @nervouspenguins9982 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. Big help. Dividers idea is fantastic.

  • @goodie2shoes
    @goodie2shoes Před 9 měsíci

    Great video. CZcams is crammed with slick 'superhero' woodworkers who have all the right tools and a million-dollar workshop. It can be fun to watch, but I've found your videos a lot more helpful and down-to-earth.

  • @sleverlight
    @sleverlight Před 5 měsíci

    Love that u didn't rely on machinery I wanna start woodworking but wanna do it only using simple tools such as a saw, thanks again

  • @beastking55
    @beastking55 Před 3 měsíci +1

    GREAT JOB

  • @NorinBlade
    @NorinBlade Před 3 lety +1

    very clear and concise. Thank you!

  • @briannicholson2644
    @briannicholson2644 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi there great video, like to learn more in this side of things
    Trying to do a very small project, hopefully try and do the finger locking for my very first time
    Thanks for your video 👍

  • @lasermarkingguy530
    @lasermarkingguy530 Před 5 měsíci

    Brilliant work!

  • @leonardnoel888
    @leonardnoel888 Před 5 lety

    Very good and clear. Thank you.

  • @captkulage
    @captkulage Před 2 lety

    Extremely helpful, thank you

  • @paul-rb9mq
    @paul-rb9mq Před 2 lety

    Great clear instructions, I'll give it a go .

  • @danalaniz7314
    @danalaniz7314 Před 3 lety

    Great tutorial. Thank you for posting.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @ATerriblepurpose
    @ATerriblepurpose Před 4 lety +1

    Cheers, subbed. Glad I discovered you.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for subbing. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @williamrdawsonphotography

    thanks so much for the video, I've just started getting into woodworking as a hobby, and your video gave me some excellent ideas on how to hand make joints. Excellent!

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. All future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/channels/HNLNiFWZcy39ew7OskHdtw.html

  • @nickwilkins9299
    @nickwilkins9299 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for this fantastic video! Super helpful, really well explained and totally inspirational.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před rokem

      Cheers, great to hear. All my work is now on my main channel, which you can find by searching @mitchwoodwork on CZcams

    • @nickwilkins9299
      @nickwilkins9299 Před rokem

      @@getintowoodwork Got you; couldn't work out why you didn't have more subs!

  • @dekeros-recreationalwoodwo6456

    Great work Mitch! Really informative and many good tips. Easy to follow. Thanks for making and sharing! (ps nice t-shirt! ;-)

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 6 lety +1

      Cheers. Yeah, thanks, it's about time I did another Instructable ;-)

  • @discoverlaurence
    @discoverlaurence Před rokem

    Great upload. Thanks.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před rokem +1

      Cheers. All my work is now on my main channel, which you can find by searching @mitchwoodwork on CZcams

  • @plainnpretty
    @plainnpretty Před rokem +1

    Thanks for sharing this

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před rokem

      Cheers. No longer posting on this channel, but on Mitch Peacock designer woodworker channel

  • @Donegaldan
    @Donegaldan Před 5 lety +1

    Great explanation

  • @remka2000
    @remka2000 Před 5 měsíci

    Just found this video, thanks a lot! I have a very limited tool section, and wanted to start to learn woodworking, this is super useful.
    I know this is a 4 years old video so maybe you already did, but would love to learn more about japanese joints, the kind that doesn't involve any screws 😊

  • @HistoricHomePlans
    @HistoricHomePlans Před 4 lety +1

    Very nice presentation! I'm subscribing. Now I've got to start practicing. :D

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety

      Thanks. Please note all future videos will be on my main channel: czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @omahr.carpinteiro
    @omahr.carpinteiro Před 3 lety +1

    Gracias, compañero.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Cheers. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @ivantriadi6218
    @ivantriadi6218 Před 8 měsíci

    This connection is the strongest joint, because it has a stepped inclined joint surface. This means that both work together to withstand the load, and there is no significant movement that affects the joint.

  • @ericlipps7152
    @ericlipps7152 Před 3 lety

    Instant subscription hand work looks so much nicer.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for the sub! Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @rogb3199
    @rogb3199 Před rokem

    I've got some to do soon. I used to use a router but I'll do it by hand like this. Thanks

  • @lonewolf1461
    @lonewolf1461 Před 4 lety +1

    thank you for this guide

  • @elgranviaje7187
    @elgranviaje7187 Před 9 měsíci

    Great video and really well explained

  • @patrickarchuleta9650
    @patrickarchuleta9650 Před 4 lety

    great job

  • @martinjosealvarez
    @martinjosealvarez Před 3 lety +1

    Gracias buen video

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @bonaparicio844
    @bonaparicio844 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome, I love this idea for finger joints, thank you!

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety

      You are so welcome! Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @katherineokeeffe2266
    @katherineokeeffe2266 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video I love it I will search for something simple I found this I checked it out it was awesome great work

    • @katherineokeeffe2266
      @katherineokeeffe2266 Před 3 lety

      Nice I love the comment

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @VincesEngines
    @VincesEngines Před rokem

    Thanks for showing with basic tools and how to correct mistakes

  • @AldoHam
    @AldoHam Před 4 lety +1

    i tell you what you just gained a sub very well done video good lighting and angles i could see everything going on very imfrmitive and you even made a mistakemost people would edit that out but you go with it and i like that as it shows me what do to when i inevitably make a mistake so yeah awesome

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety

      Thanks and welcome. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @deepakonly16
    @deepakonly16 Před 3 lety +1

    Very good 👍

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! Cheers! Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @tejakoripalli9371
    @tejakoripalli9371 Před 3 lety

    This helped a lot and has proven to me that i do not need to buy a workshop full of tools.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      That's great to hear, thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @RudyLouieTayong
    @RudyLouieTayong Před 3 lety +1

    Wolverine Woodworking

  • @ejicon3099
    @ejicon3099 Před 3 lety +3

    Well done. Thanks for the lesson British Hugh Jackman ;)

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @amosbird1988
    @amosbird1988 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Threw me off when he said four and they showed three

  • @rjamsbury1
    @rjamsbury1 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice vid Mitch. I'm not sure if I've seen anyone else show these by hand - it's all sleds on table saws. Not sure why in hindsight as it's obviously so, but I was struck by how similar the method is to through dovetails.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 6 lety

      Cheers Robert.
      Yes, very similar process, so hopefully the next episode will be a piece of cake ;-)

  • @kimjongun2946
    @kimjongun2946 Před 3 lety +1

    I did this technique with so so results on red oak. I should be able to fix all the gaps with wood filler and will look good when stained.
    I think it's more difficult since it's a hardwood opposed to soft pine in this video?

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Hardwoods takes a little more effort to cut through, but softwoods can be easily crushed, generally speaking. So advantages and disadvantages to both.

  • @mm9773
    @mm9773 Před 5 lety +2

    Wicked hum

  • @symons666
    @symons666 Před rokem +1

    Nice work, but cutting straight for a beginner usually isn't happening, i have been trying for years and still cannot manage it! a beginner is not going to have a beautifully sharp chisel, or probably not even a moderately sharp one for the precise cuts, and even at 57 I still don't own a fret saw, or anything similar !! Great job on the video, but as a beginner, mine would look nothing like that ! I can make and sharper knives, but wood is something else !!

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před rokem

      Cheers. You've identified what's important, and I've posted videos on sawing and sharpening which should help some. Jewelers, fret, or coping saws are widely available, and you don't need fancy, expensive ones for waste removal in joinery. Good luck with your woodworking.
      All my work is now on my main channel, which you can find by searching @mitchwoodwork on CZcams

  • @reaper060670
    @reaper060670 Před 9 měsíci

    I need a fret saw pal. I hink a trip on Amazon is needed now.. Would u be able to get one at B&Q??

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 8 měsíci

      Axminster Tools, Workshop Heaven, Classic Hand Tools, all online all should have decent quality ones

  • @SkynetT800
    @SkynetT800 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you !for the lesson I was wondering how I was going to put together this Japanese sushi Press Box that I'm making👍

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. All future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/channels/HNLNiFWZcy39ew7OskHdtw.html

  • @younginsong984
    @younginsong984 Před rokem

    Thanks! Is there any easy way to unnail after nailing box joint?

  • @AndreiIR000
    @AndreiIR000 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent job as always! One question though: I've been practicing box joints (by hand) on 10mm pine plywood but I cannot chisel away the inner space between fingers in a consistent manner (i.e. I end digging too "deep"). Is it lack of practice or the (relatively thin) plywood makes it harder? Thank you!

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 4 lety +1

      Plywood is awful for chiseling well. Make sure chisels are super sharp, and take small bites.

    • @AndreiIR000
      @AndreiIR000 Před 4 lety

      @@getintowoodwork Thank you, will apply advice.

  • @axelbottenberg4676
    @axelbottenberg4676 Před rokem

    I made a nice pile of firewood. How do you get the precision in all this?

  • @user-uo8vz3cz8m
    @user-uo8vz3cz8m Před 9 měsíci

    What glue did you use

  • @gunterschone8402
    @gunterschone8402 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice video, Mitch.
    The finger joints look fabulous.
    By the pencil, I have a 0.5mm print refill pencil.
    Either I take the pencil or my marking knife.
    The two boards where you made the finger prongs.
    You can take that as a book support. :-)
    Did you do the shoji yourself??? :-D :-D
    I'm thinking of making a lamp out of Shoji. But may I tinker devices suitable for planing yet.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks Gunter.
      I like to use a knife where I will finish with a blade, say a chisel in this case. Pencil is fine as a rough guide for sawing.
      Book shelf ends - great idea!
      I did make the shoji last month, and there will be some video soon, on my main channel. There are definitely jigs to help the preparation of kumiko for patterns and shoji, and I'll make some before making more shoji.

    • @gunterschone8402
      @gunterschone8402 Před 6 lety

      Thanks for the answer, Mitch.
      I look forward to the videos. :-D
      For Shoji you need 3 or 4verschiedene angle, but I wanted to customize the templates.

  • @kadabR_
    @kadabR_ Před 2 lety

    Great video, one question though would this work if you made the joint on the long side of the wood?

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 2 lety

      Not so well. Cutting the fingers across the grain will make them weak, and the glue surfaces will be half end grain which is less reliable. If you want the effect, then it would be best to use veneers over a sound joint.

    • @kadabR_
      @kadabR_ Před 2 lety

      @@getintowoodwork Ok, thanks!

  • @juanavila9965
    @juanavila9965 Před 2 lety

    Where can I get a square like the one you using? Thanks in advance and thanks for all the work teaching

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 2 lety

      These are engineers metal try squares, and you can find them in good tool shops. They vary in guaranteed accuracy and are priced as such. A reasonably good single square might cost £5-10, or you could get a set of different sized ones such as amzn.to/3cyWjx1 if you are working on varying sized components. You should always check the accuracy of squares when you receive them and regularly thereafter (see my other channel's video czcams.com/video/2kjj8aPSoKo/video.html )

  • @brick_is_him
    @brick_is_him Před 9 měsíci

    4:28 making a box

  • @adrianskelton9910
    @adrianskelton9910 Před 3 lety

    Great video! Is there a reason why you used a plane instead of just sanding it down?

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks, I just prefer producing shavings to sawdust.
      Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @sleverlight
    @sleverlight Před 5 měsíci

    Is there a way to do without glue?

  • @COLDROLD73
    @COLDROLD73 Před 6 lety +1

    Thumzup #18

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 Před 5 lety +1

    Why does this make me think of days when skills counted.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. All future videos will be on my main channel czcams.com/channels/HNLNiFWZcy39ew7OskHdtw.html

  • @James_T_Kirk_1701
    @James_T_Kirk_1701 Před 9 měsíci

    Now drill straight down and pin them with a dowel.

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 8 měsíci

      Yes you can, and it sounds a good idea. Unlikely to fall apart if pinned, but I haven't tested it, so can't say for sure.

  • @sepatufutsale
    @sepatufutsale Před 8 měsíci

    am I see wolverine become a carpenter ??

  • @brick_is_him
    @brick_is_him Před 9 měsíci

    my DT teacher sent me this on teems very med

  • @manwe_sulimo
    @manwe_sulimo Před 6 lety +1

    Wait a minute! How did you manage to get the second cut board to stick to first when you pulled them apart? Check about 1:50... nice

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 6 lety +1

      I could say the vacuum of perfectly flat ends, but in reality a few stray splinters ;-)

  • @tomm785
    @tomm785 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the vid man! Except this vid was used for a lesson :/

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 3 lety

      Thanks, that's interesting to know. Everything new is now on my main site Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock czcams.com/users/WOmadeOD

  • @linkus1824
    @linkus1824 Před 3 lety +1

    Lol Wolverine

  • @aliasglilou7914
    @aliasglilou7914 Před 4 lety +1

    Sound issue

  • @brick_is_him
    @brick_is_him Před 9 měsíci +1

    and I don't lie

  • @jimsmith3971
    @jimsmith3971 Před 5 lety +1

    Mitch, what two character traits does the Milkybar Kid possess?

  • @brick_is_him
    @brick_is_him Před 9 měsíci

    you 40 year old men praying him like his god

  • @brick_is_him
    @brick_is_him Před 9 měsíci

    5:42 min in and know nothing

  • @brick_is_him
    @brick_is_him Před 9 měsíci

    you should name yourself self get your out of woodworking

  • @user-uo8vz3cz8m
    @user-uo8vz3cz8m Před 9 měsíci

    What glue did you use

  • @user-uo8vz3cz8m
    @user-uo8vz3cz8m Před 9 měsíci

    What glue did you use

    • @getintowoodwork
      @getintowoodwork  Před 8 měsíci

      Long time ago now, but probably PVA wood glue. Otherwise a liquid hide glue.