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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- A video on some of the worlds greatest/dumbest scammers
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Ancient Scamming Transcript:
Everywhere you look today you are surrounded by one scam or another, be it get rich quick schemes, crypto telegram groups or uh pension contributions. With all these scams and tricks you might wonder how did it get so bad that man should want to readily betray one another so easily. Well im here to tell you that the art of the scam is actually as old as civilisation itself, the methods may have changed but, the underlying aim to get ahead at the expense of others is thousands of years old maybe even millions. So in todays video we will be looking at ancient scams and scammers. Starting off with a somewhat infamous scammer because of a meme we will be looking at Ea-Nasir the worlds greatest copper vendor. Ea Nasir lived in 18th century Mesopotamia BC in Ur by what is now known as Persian gulf. Ea-Nasir was a businessman who worked with the Alik-Tilmun merchant guild and was actually one of the more successful copper traders at the time. Ea-Nasir also dipped his toes into selling finished metal products and other things but his main income came from selling copper ingots. Surprisingly enough at the beginning of his career he honoured his debts and was seen as a trustworthy businessman. But after an extended stay in Dilmun he began to trade less honestly, so much so that he began to get complaints about his copper specifically failure to delivers and when he did deliver it was of copper that was subpar. His web of deceit is quite confusing so im going to explain it using a spider diagram, kind of anyway. Central to the diagram we have Ea-Nasir and directly beside him was his business partner and middleman… um well…. 2016 sam o nella might have gotten away with it but uh im probably not as lucky so ill just call him nanna. Anyway our first complaint in cuneiform tablet form is from Arbituram who writes. “ and give the silver and its profit to Nanna. I have made you issue a tablet. Why have you not given me the copper? If you do not give it, I will recall your pledges. Good copper, give again and again.” He then ends it by saying “send me a man” which I like, is it threatening, is it a sign of romantic interest? Who knows, what we do know is that Ea Nasir didn’t resolve this and send arbituram his copper so he sends him another complaint tablet this time it reads. "Why have you not given the copper to Nanna? Ili-idinnam says 'The copper that Nanna has received is mine!' Be kind enough to give the copper, as much as he has a claim on you, to Nanna." So im guessing that Arbituram did receive some copper from Ea-Nasir through Nanna but it was actually promised to ili iddinum, im guessing that arbturam took the copper promised to ili iddinum and is telling Ea-Nasir to make ili iddinum whole. Because of this chicanery Ili iddinum also wrote a complaint to Ea-Nasir sarcastically telling him that “the work that you have done is sooooooooo good.” The literary device of the stretching of words to make them ironic seems to span millennia, taking the seems to be a timeless pastime and im all for it. He continues “One year ago, I paid silver in a foreign country; you shall hold back only bad copper. Please bring your copper." Im starting to think that if Ea-Nasir is continually scamming you yet you continue to do business with him you kinda deserve it. They are acting as if he was the only copper trader in ancient Mesopotamia the way they clamour for his trade. He also had a few more complaints from others such as Appa who wrote “The copper of mine, give it to Nanna - good copper, in order that my heart shall not be troubled." Very poetic, it’s a shame that this writing style didn’t survive ancient times, just imagine writing an email to your boss, like I pray that this email finds you in good health, at your request I have enclosed within thine inbox a copy of this winter’s financial reports, the days of dark evenings are subsiding and spring arises, may the coming seasons be bountiful and good. God be with you, Stoic stick, regional assistant manager. McDonalds. Cutaway gag aside, you might have noticed that ive added 2 more onto the spider diagram and that’s because I did, glad we cleared that up. But we have our final and longest complaint from the most famous of all of Eya nasirs disgruntled customers, he wrote on both sides of a cuneiform tablet, which is an arduous task, it probably took him many hours or even a day of just sitting there digging into a stone tablet just so he could get across how much Ea-Nasir him off. It Starts Now, when you had come, you spoke saying thus: 'I will give good ingots to Gimil-Sin'; this you said to me when you had come, but you have not done it. You have offered bad ingots to my messenger, saying 'If you will take it, take it; if you will not take it, go away.' Who am I that you are treating me in this manner.
the whole Ea-Nasir meme is for some reason super heartwarming to me. It shows that even if we're separated by 4000 years we can still relate to and joke about these people.
None of us will ever be forgotten, we are all part of one generation, we are so back depression has been defeated
Bro still getting clowned for cheatin dudes 4,000 years later
I like the "Your copper is soooo good" part.
To scam is human. Humans are disgusting.
My favorite part of history is that one dude who is STILL being clowned on for his poor grade copper
LMAO :V
He couldn't live it down, hell he couldn't even die it down
Literally immortalized as "shitty copper guy"
This is why you don't sell shitty copper
clowned? ea naser turrned bad copper into silver, and all silver was good silver. I venerate this ancestral bag-chaser
Imagine your copper is so ass people talk about it 4000 years later
Imagine being so shit that the earliest known piece of writing is your customer's complaint.
It's not that, he took pride in it, kept the complaints organized, that's why we have it.
@pyropulseIXXIworst rage bait
@@Gon23230asked to leave comment section
@@Gon23230nah but fr tho why would he preserve those texts?
And to think, Ea-Nasir's antics are known to us 4000 years later only because he (or some diligent secretary) took great pains to store every piece of hate mail he received, instead of throwing them away.
I guess that was the ancient version of "you fell off", which he needed to hear.
i like to think that ea nasir actually stored the hate email himself to laugh at it later, worlds first troll
ah beat me to it. But yea, there are two scenarios: A), Ea-Nasir, rascal as he is, preserves and stores his hatemail or B) somebody got mad enough about the shitty copper and disrespect shown to their servants that they fukken burned down Ea-Nasir's home, thereby heat-treating the clay tablets
@@minnumseerrund yep.
So the secret to immortality is to carefully record your hate mail?
You know Ea Nasir was a god-tierr con man as his eventual defeat was simply because he run out of people to scam.
If he would to live today...
That doesn't mean he's good at all. A good con man could scam someone infinite times. Like using aliases or having someone else do the face to face and you set it up.
@@Sinner487 Or even more common, convincing the victim they were never scammed at all, and doing more business will either work this time, or better, is a moral obligation to prevent some (implausible) ill from befalling them.
@@Sinner487 Maybe this WAS the second attempt. Like there was a 'Nea Aasir' that was just him without the beard or something.
@@Sinner487 who knows, maybe he did
Ea nasir legacy lives on as EA
You're onto something here
no it lives on in every company in the gaming industry
Inshallah
DO NOT REDEEM COPPER
DO NOT REDEEM COPPER
*NOOOOOOOGOGH*
WHY YOU REDEEM!?
the craziest part is that just one talent of copper equals 30 kilos or 66 pounds.
@@norwegiansmores811 Daaaaaaaamn
I came here to post this
Yelling at their assistants as they frantically chisel and transcribe in literal stone their rage 😂
Apparently Ea Nasir kept all the complaint tablets, and ONLY complaint tablets, in a dedicated room in his house. The man not only loved scamming people, he seemed to actually enjoy collecting hate mail. He was PROUD of it.
Ea Nasir was THE ancient hustler. He got his bag damnit, and bless him for it. Such a scoundrel that he is remembered FOREVER. Legend!
Funniest thing is he had an entire room dedicated just for the storage of complain tablets. Like imagine being such a high level scammer that you actually dedicate an entire room just for the complaints. Beyond based.
@@kotzpennerAnd the reason we have those tablets today is because the clay was fired when the people he scammed burned his house down lol.
Still waiting on the other half of my shipment of copper and the copper i got is still contaminated
Can you do a inflation, maxing video?
hahaha fitting pfp
I don’t need to watch that, my country has been inflation-maxxing hard enough
pyrocynical tutorial
@@antifreeze3526beat me to it
Miha leben simulator
Ea-Nasir was the og scammer, all the call center scammers aspire to be him
Stroking my stoic sticc rn
She stoicing my sticc 'til I maxx
I came
@@EaNasir2750 show me
I'm over here stroking my stoic stick right now. I got Ea Nassirs copper on my stick right now. It's sub-par af right now.
Stoicmaxxing.
Ah scamming the oldest art
What's the world's REAL oldest profession? scamming or prostitution?
@@strange7190hunting joined the chat
@@Secondt2none and I bet after the first guy brought a deer home a girl slept with him for the best cut of meat
@@Secondt2none scavenging joined the chat
@@strange7190 both are a direct evolution of primitive trade, so it's hard to say. Both are prehistoric though, likely pre-human too
I was relieved that the only damage to the time machine was to the wires
Now I need someone to sell me high quality copper in Ancient Mesopotamia
Then it's not ea nasir and probably someone else or he will steal copper from your time machine and sell it back to you
hey boss bad news while we were out selling MREs we had stored some crackhead stole our wires and tried to sell it back to us an ingot
Two sentence horror
Long before time had a name, Ninjago was created by the First Spinjitzu Master, using the Four Weapons of Spinjitzu. The Scythe of Quakes, the Nunchucks of Lightning, the Shurikens of Ice and the Sword of Fire. Weapons so powerful, no one can handle all of their power at once! When he passed away, his two sons swore to protect them, but the oldest was consumed by darkness and wanted to possess them. A battle between brothers broke out, and the oldest was struck down and banished to the Underworld. Peace returned, and the younger brother hid the weapons, but knowing his older brother's relentless ambition for power, he placed a guardian to protect them. And for fear of his own demise, a map for an honest man to hide. That honest man was your father. The older brother is Lord Garmadon, and I... need to find those weapons before he does.
Based and spinny pilled
This should get pinned.
my life is Spain without the "a"
Based
im the gren ninga
Worth noting that we know about Ea Nasir's copper because he kept the tablets of all his complaints in one room. It's unknown if this was intended as a sort of trophy room of the people he conned.
He probably hung them on the walls.
Kind of like when the media does a hitpiece on you.
I got an add for a scam protection service on this video. Too bad I didn’t watch this video 3800 years ago 😢
Would you like copper?
@@EaNasir2750 yes!
Ea Nasir's spirit transcended time and resumes his scamming ways. This time, he was overchargind and undelivering bad copper, but unfinished, mediocre games. Ea Nasir has become... EA.
Ea Nasir's descendants created EA inc to honor his scamming memory.
And he doesn't sell u a complete game
EA Nasir: If you have a complaint direct it to Nana from HR department.
I'm a paramedic and any time I need to email my captain I send it just like that. I recently told him "my bosom heaves in his absence"
LMAO. That's creative. Got more?
NEED MORES
You are gay
MY BOY EA NASIR MAKES AN APPEARANCE
EA Nasir became corrupted after he moved to Dubai.
Don’t slander my boy ea nasir. He was defending himself from a liar and loss his reputation for nothing.
Stoic stick would like to think Ea Nasir was such a legendary vendor, I say that his sheer slimyness and incompetence transcended being lost to history, bro made some enemies and those enemies were going to make damn sure nobody forgot the shady things that Ea Nasir pulled
yeah ir is bery possible that what they did was burned the house down.
2:12 “you will subscribe”
I dont know why but after rewatching this part of video i have strong desire to like and subscribe
7:18
9:24
Stoic ”psyop” stick
IMO the real ancient scamming was when people "claim" to be of divine blood or origin and then become kings or emporers
And then there is brother of jesus from china...if we think about that, could it be that they were a *bit* mentally impaired and were totally sure in their divine origins? After all, concept of mental illness is pretty new, and you really dont have any proof of opposite, other then "you are just seeing things, go take a rest".
Average commoner cope
skill issue
If you got to be king you are clearly divine.
Lack of charisma leads to this coping kink
EA NASIR CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
I knew Stoic Stick was Persian but it's still impressive to see him being able to fluently read ancient clay tablets
The fact that humans can't even get over their basic instinct of "I gotta get one up n the other guy" makes us animals in my eyes. Intelligent, but still just a bunch of animals. The day we actually focus on progress and discovery, instead of wtf we're doing now is when we'll reach another stage in evolution, at least in my own opinion.
There's animals of both kinds.
If you take the time to think about what the world could be like if everyone worked together to improve life it could be so much better than it is now.
@@Badficwriter No, not really. Unless that animal itself is actually just a harmless little creature. But in every single animal kingdom there's the innate animal instinct that makes them territorial to their own species, sometimes their own kin depending on the species and of course there's mating which brings even more aggression and I get all that's for survival, but you're telling me that as intelligent and sophisticated as we are we can't stop those same urges? With all the progress we've made so far while fighting each other? It's foolish to think we couldn't do tenfold more as a collective.
I wonder if the writing is only remembered as poetic because it was translated into English 200-300 years ago by scholars who wanted it to sound like how English was spoken at the time or modern scholars with an interest in poetic language. Translation is always difficult with archeological findings or ancient literature, and the most literal translations would be confusing to modern ears.
I see Ea Nasir, I tap.
Instead of targeting the hearing or vision, he targets the mind. Keep up the subliminal messaging warfare, Stoic Stick
Ea Nasir would look so poorly on crypto scammers today, their form is all wrong. Return to selling low-grade alloys!
Boeing called about those alloys... do you still have some in stock?
Damn, sseth and stoic uploading in the same day?
Today we eat like kings
My goat back at it again 😎
What is your pet goat doing?
Earliest I’ve ever been for a video
"You must be the worst copper merchant I've ever heard of!"
"But you have heard of me..."
This channel is a gift that keeps on giving. I am hoping for a video that shows how the introduction of psy-ops into the videos changed the subscriber gain.
Another peak video from my favorite creator
One of the biggest copper traders ended up going out of business and had to sell part of his house after scamming his customers, at a time when information was slow to travel. Proof that the market always works.
Truly a "Iltam sumra ashupti ilatim" moment 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
0:20 i feel a sudden urge to subscribe to stoic stick at this time stamp for some reason
Loving the subliminal messaging
I love the subliminal messaging telling me to subscribe, not that I wasn't already subscribed because of this amazing content. But that right there was actually hilarious.
I was not prepared for the Sam O Nella reference lmao
4 minutes ago is harassment
Imagine having to carve out a slab of rock with a chisel to send a DM
I think they wrote on fresh clay, and then hardened it, and either sent it (if it was to be a message) or kept it stored (if it was to be a logbook of some kind)
I used to write text messages on a flip phone that's close enough.
this video was very interesting!
11:27 stoic i hope they don't knock on your door 😭😭
1:42 I like how stoic aware of sam onella saying the n word and getting away with it, which means he has seen his content. I love this channel.
All In saying is that if I could've scammed people back when it was so easy, I would have too
This is the only CZcamsr I get excited when they upload genuinely
Love your vids
Even stick figure Praetorians are so kino.
Ea Nasir???????
Ea Nasir.
What a scam, late video
The quality of this man's copper is literally LEGENDARY.
I see you're using the psy-ops from that video a few weeks ago
I fell for it
9:01 Wait, his plan was to sink a ship he was aboard... When he couldn't swim?
As he said double digits
But still something is weird about that ngl
@@MTTC-me5dj A 99 IQ would be close to average.
The whole Ea-Nasir really reminded me of the time when I worked for an answering service. Some clients were shady af, and I'd get callers complaining exactly like these copper complaints, only less poetic, lol.
9:15 my dental insurance decided not to pay for my teeth cleaning because I went to the dentist a few weeks prior and they told me that they weren’t able to clean it at that time because it was too dirty(I wasn’t cleaning my gums but I am now). Apparently they only pay for one check up every 6 months
Ea Nasir. Ancestor of Indian scam caller 🤣
This highlights how scammers and fraudulent businessmen continue to operate. They build "good will" at the beginning, and then they slowly reveal their fraudulent ways. The people that are being scammed are so in deep, that they hold onto a delusion that the scammer is ever going to make them whole.
i thought his house was burned down and what remain was his collection of complain tablet
the nasir guy
underrated channel. Great video
I'd love to see a video on ancient GDP values! It has to be so difficult to put correlatable numbers up, like how would you value say egyptian wheat compared to greek barley? would an adreaic chicken fetch the same price as a peloponnesian chicken? Also bartering was still very much a thing, so getting numbers both for volume and value of those "off record" trades might be quite challenging.
Hey, I like your video style. May I suggest to improve engagement, that you might consider moving the statue head a bit while talking to give your scenes a bit of motion? A hand-waving animation (or similar animation) would also help, I'd say. Thanks for the video!
Comment for the Algorithm, mate.
Stoic Stick putting "YOU WILL SUBSCRIBE" at the bottom of the video at 7:18 thinking it will work.
9:10 This sounds like a convenient story the crew gave when they got back to port and all of the cargo "disappeared" after the captain "drowned"
"you are, without a doubt, the worst copper vendor I have ever heard of"
"ah, yes, but you have heard of me"
Best vid so far,very interesting and informative topic,hail hydra🧿
1:45 OH MY GOD WHY IS NO ONE ELSE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS 😭😭😭
Best part of the legend of Ea-Nasir is that the clay tablets of the time werent made to last. So the only reason we even know about Ea-Nasir and his shenanigans is cause he preserved and stored his hatemail.
Udreah Hutsu Rah Reah
My goat!
Lmfao getting a like for the whole “do it over a long time, America loves you” bit, so spot on.
0:42 "These copper bars", Lucifer said, "Are of sub-par quality". "You accepted them as payment" the merchant said, "the deal is done". "Very well, I will uphold my end of the bargain," Lucifer said, "Your name will live on famously forever.". "That is all I ask", said Ea-Nasir. And Lucifer, an man of honor, held true to his word...
Stoic did you know even tho ea nasir was not born in India he was indian from heart
The reason the story about the copper merchant survives but other stores don't is "money talks, sh*it walks"
You’re lwk my favorite CZcamsr rn 😭
0 views in 0 seconds, man's really fallen off
I swear in a few millennia, people will make hologram essays about how Enron sold everyone bad “socks”.😂
Ea Nasir would be a top tier youtuber.
Writing in beautiful, flowery language that espouses the depths of our souls is so important and beautiful. We must not forget the old ways no matter which way the winds and currents of history blow. I thank you deeply for brining your amazing style of teaching to me, you are a product of your time in the best way|.
Best regards, and high thought and divinity be with you.
Jake Noel
When will you make a video about the Annexation of Pete's Empire and the Downfall of Joe
Domt worry, i gotchu
Ea Nasir's copper had such a big downfall that people are still talking about it 4000 years later
Legend has it that to this day Ea Nasir is still scamming people
"ooga booga crack" LMFAOOOO imagining cavemen crackheads is the funniest thing to me
Shout out to the moderators that archived these complaints 4000 years ago
I love your subliminal messaging telling me to subscribe, because I found it so funny after trying to pause to read it that I subscribed for the effort lol
Best copper in all of Mesopotamia!
Cuneiform wasn't carved into stone, it's molded clay. You'd write when the clay was still wet with a reed.
I didn't even know I had a favorite copper vendor.
I miss Snake Oil. We should really bring that stuff back
4:09 Learning this kind of flowery writing is essential in formal business Japanese
"You will subscribe"
That sort of trick could have worked in the olden days when you got true framerates but youtube doesen't let imperceptible frames go by like that. youtube puts a hard cap on a video's framerate.
"let's go back to the gold standard, taxes bad" lmfao
4:45 actually it was a clay tablet, not stone, and was easy to etch. BUT... Ea-Nasir, for some reason, liked this complaint so much that he fired the clay to make it last.
We Pretend It's Bronze Age Internet is my favorite Facebook Meme Group and not even Ea Nasir can tell me otherwise