When Secret Soviet MiG Aces Fought US Sabres
Vložit
- čas přidán 10. 03. 2021
- In the skies over Korea at the height of the cold war, Soviet fighter aces secretly fought against the UN forces. Northwest Korea over the Yalu river, also known as Mig Alley is where most of these engagements occurred. The US pilots named these talented aviators "Honchos". The Head Honcho that patrolled over Mig Alley, was nicknamed "Casey Jones" or "Ol' Casey". Flying a MIG 15 bis with a special paint job, Casey Jones was none other than Soviet WW2 pilot Sergei Kramarenko.
Thanks to Vika for translating the information from the Russian sources. In particular Sergei Kramarenko's memoire, "Against Messerschmitts and Sabre Jets. In the Sky of Two Wars" by Sergei Kramarenko
We also took references from the excellent book F-86 Sabre vs MiG-15 : Korea 1950-53 by Douglas C. Dildy and Warren Thompson
Please also consider supporting us on Patreon at / yarnhub or take a look at our merch at teespring.com/stores/yarnhubs...
Yarnhub uses the Unreal® Engine. Unreal® is a trademark or registered trademark of Epic Games, Inc. in the United States of America and elsewhere.
Unreal® Engine, Copyright 1998 - 2021, Epic Games, Inc. All rights reserved. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Please like and watch another video of ours and support the channel. Thanks !
Hmmmmm
Sup
Yes sir
Will do sir
E
Ok dad
Doing recon: Speaks korean
In combat: Speaks russian
Radioman: *Visible confusion*
LOL 😂😂😂
Lol
SUKA BLYAD!
*insert *speaks Koressian**
@@Shadow-sq2yj hello chadow
We want, no, we *need* more stories on the Korean War, especially when Yarnhub does it very well.
The Korean War is significantly under reported. And a lot of the documentaries on it are propaganda. I would love to see some actual factual stuff reported on it.
@@commonnerfer Second Taiwan Strait Crisis also. The first Sidewinder kills, the whole stuck missle on a MiG for the USSR to copy, etc.
Would love to see a battle of yultong video
@@Seatux I didn’t even know about that.
@@commonnerfer Its literally ROC pushing China long enough for Mao to give up. Not great optics for China, which is why its hardly remembered.
I had the honour to research this and other topics of the Korean War with Russian historian Igor Seydov (I should better say that he did the brunt of the research, with some minor contributions from me) and American ones (Kenneth Werrell and Earl McGill). Regarding the aerial combat on 17 January 1952 that you portray at the end of the video, when Kramarenko hit a Sabre but was subsequently shot down, I think I can provide some names: the F-86E Kramarenko hit was the BuNo 50-636 flown by Major George V. Wendling, and was severely damaged, but survived to fight other battles till his final destruction on 13 April 1952 by another "Casey Jones" (MiG Ace Arkadiy Boytsov). The Sabre pilot who shot down Kramarenko was, most like, Major William Shaeffer of the 16 FIS, 51 FIW (the same unit than Wendling). I have only one complain: you failed to mention that Serguey Kramarenko was fired upon after ejecting and while was floating defenceless in the parachute, probably by Shaeffer. I cannot say whether Shaeffer was trying to murder him (Kramarenko sincerely believed this when Igor and I interviewed him back in 2007) , or was just shooting in his general direction trying to get some guncamera pics where the parachute would be clearly visible, to get credit for the MiG kill (as Werrell suggested me). All that I can say is that many other Soviet pilots suffered similar experiences, and no less than four of them were murdered while hanging defenceless in their chutes. Have a nice day, very good video, keep up the good work.
Thanks for the extra info, we were unsure as to whether to include that scene or not tbh. As it was an unknown pilot on one side and a statement that was given at the height of the cold war. We didn't think it added anything to the story and detracted from the main story which was a bunch of brave men on both sides doing their job. So we included the facts we could corroborate from both books. Thanks again for the insight and it's amazing that you got to speak to the veterans.
Americans even then used nazi tactics. They are such a sore losers. They had to 'freeze' the conflict since they were losing it badly.
I am sure it worked both ways.
@@patrickmiano7901 I never found any mention in any US book of a MiG pilot shooting at an Sabre pilot after bailing out. I read several books of Larry Davis, Warren Thompson, Ken Werrell and most of the authors specialized in Korea, that brought a lot of personal accounts of Sabre crews (aces, MiG killers, wingmen, mechanics). Not a single mention of a MiG pilot shooting at a Sabre airmen hanging defenceless in his parachute. NONE.
Maybe Shaeffer was following orders by his scumbag command.
My grandfather was a F-86 Sabres pilot in Korea. One of the stories he told was of him shooting down a MIG-15, that was piloted by a Russian.
Another great video, I can't see the next one.
Respect your grandfather! My grandfather was a soviet pilot in WW2. He managed to participate in the bombing of Berlin in the summer of 1941. So he fought until the end of the war and survived. Did you know that despite the retreat of the Soviet army in the summer of 1941, Soviet pilots bombed Berlin several times! You can imagine how surprised the Germans were!
@@user-dl6yc4wx5g уважаете его за то, что его дед сбил нашего пилота?
@@alexmiller291 это была война, так что он сбил своего врага. За это можно уважать
@@alexmiller291 man its the past bro, and its a war. What else you'll do if you see an enemy fighter fly infront of you in a war.
The quality of Yarnhub's videos increases faster than the acceleration of a MiG plane at full thrust
Damn this is cringe
@@irrelevant9023you"re cringe
Haha
@@somanosanghirun1580 same
Mig-25 foxhound:REALLY NIGGA
mine is faster
THE ANIMATION IS HONESTLY GETTING SO MUCH BETTER!
YEAH
Yeah it really is
Best historical animations on CZcams
Maybe it's just because, it is a jet aircraft instead of the usual propeller plane
@@keanusw3369 am I wired for preferring the way prop planes look over jets
Since I was a kid, I have always thought the MiG-15 was the most beautiful fighter jet. It fascinates me from all angles. I want to fly in one.
may i suggest visiting the Patriot park in Russia.
Shadowmane
Isn't it quite impossible to visit Russia these day, no?
@@LongTran-em6hc the borders are open, the country functions the same as before the conflict (there are no war regime or anything like that). There are still flights to Russia,
I seen it on the discovery channel before
some naked people in forest and alien ancient Egypt show was shown regularly.
I agree. I had the luck to see one in flight at an airshow in El Toro in 1993. Sadly it was the same airshow where a Sabre pilot crashed and died.
Animating that battle with the two groups of Sabre’s must have been hell, but it was definitely worth it, I’d say that this episode is the best animated of them all.
Hol' up this dude just did a "let Me show him a little trick I learned"
LOL
The mig 15 were able to out turn Sabres, Vertically, but that move is unreasonable.
@@papermaster7764 Well if a P51 could do that, maybe a mig
Red tails reference
@@CoolBluBoi ehh, if a P-51 ever managed to do that I'd genuinely start to think that the world is flat.
i honestly have no idea how to comment other than my usual "under rated"
Me neither, so continue if you must
Yea
this channel for sure isnt underrated it gained astonishing amount of attentiont
Dad has the old PC game called “Mig Alley “ on the shelf in the den. It’s from late 90s I think.
He said he played it when he was around 17-18.
My dad got that game for me, but I sadly never got to play it because the computer I had at the time didn't have a good enough graphics card IIRC, and I lost the disc before I could test it on a better computer :C
If the Mig is spraying like that he should be out of ammo in 6.3 second.
True that, the all MiGs have big fuck-off 37mm and 23mm cannons with barely 200 rounds total. They only open fire when they're sure they'd hit.
Even the modern MiG-29 and Su-27 only has 150 rounds for their 30mm cannons, although the computers makes up for it by pretty mich ensuring every burst is a hit.
@@TheNicestPig whats the reason of chosing power canons vs a smaller caliber and quantity of rounds?
@@pioneirohill8493 More range and better accuracy, a single hit will fuck up your airframe, and as i've said before, fire control computer has made it so that almost every shot is a hit, so the low ammo count doesn't affect it as much.
Pardon me for using video game knowledge on this part but if you've played DCS, you'll know that 150 rounds is more than enough to destroy 3-4 fighters in a dogfight, or 5 if you're having a good day.
Gotta go cost cutting comrades so we can produce more planes with less ammo
@@pioneirohill8493 they are designed to counter US strategic bombers.
It's a insane job that Yarnhub team manage to animate all those dodge fight and make them look like a real fight.
Dodge fight? I thought that was a Doge fight
@@triadwarfare ah, sorry for my bad english
@@racapinang it's alright. Just messing with you. It's actually dogfight. But I'd like to see Shiba Inus fight.
dodge fight like dodge ball? hahaha
@@hghhhffhfhfhf3401 lmaoo
MiG alley huh? *Turns around on the airfield and takes off backwards*
Oldest trick in the book
What?
My grandfather was on this war on North Korea’s side, he was a pilot, but in the naval bombers, not in Mig’s, in IL-4, I guess, I don’t remember purely, he died 16 years ago.
He was lieutenant-colonel (подполковник) in American system of officer’s ranges an participated on WWII, on Japanese campaign in 1945 in Manchuria/Korea and in Korean War, but all live for everyone he was only “WWII veteran”, and not “Korean veteran”, because of secrecy of this information.
In this war were a lot of soviet pilots, my grandfather told me that they speak in radio chat on korean language for disguise that on north korean side are soviet soldiers.
But in some hot moments they started speaking russian and everybody in radio wave understands that he has battle with soviet pilots so sometimes US pilots gone away because soviet pilots have huge experience and were more professional than chinese or koreans pilots.
Interesting that now I can find on comments people whose grandparents were on other side in this war and talk story from “the enemy side”
Thanks for the insight Sergej
@@Yarnhub Hi Yarnhub can you make a video on mig 15 vs B29 amd F80s
I mean, do you think the communists is the good side? History is written by the victors and boy, a regime that lasted less than 100 years is not the victor
@@raylessnesses3756 Dude I don´t give a fuck really this was history and part of my history too. Do I think the communists is the good side? Well they didn´t worse that guys who started Vientam War for example. Aren´t good sides life is isn´t "Call of Duty Cold War" boy. Capitalism won cummunist lost. Now I live in capitalism with elements of fascism and I like capitalism more than communism. But if I like to live in democracy? I don´t think so. So thats my answer
@@sergei_bobrov too much to read, good job or bad job, idk 👍
My great grandfather was actually colonel Bruce Hinton, I have a painting in my room of the plane he had . I had no idea that the pilot of the mig-15 he shot bailed out. It was quite a shock.
czcams.com/video/LuKzt7p-MnM/video.html
@@largegummyhitman5786 lmfao
@@XiLiE_ lmao
@@largegummyhitman5786 Don't be a douche.
@@timg2088 sorry but fake asses don't deserve attention, imagine using war heroes and claiming they are related for likes
To compete with yarnhub, the history channel is making a new show about alien truckers who own pawn shops. 😜
Alien truckers who own pawn shops based on Alaskan crab fishing boats.
A sprinkle of Hitler on top. Not too much. Just enough..
Truckers who do restoration
While this comment is funny, History Channel has already covered a lot of this in Dogfights. They're uploading all those episodes on CZcams now. Although I do agree that they should get back to it, since all those episodes are old now. The last time they did anything like this was maybe 2012.
@@armchairgeneralissimo alien truckers who own pawn shops on Alaskan fishing boats based in swamps
I just realise when it said that he died at 2020 it also the same year as Chuck E. Yeager, Yeager died on 7th December 2020.
What a rainy year…
Many famous died in that year for sure
2020 was a terrible year
Who was Chuck E. Yeager?
Chuck Yeager was an asshole
@@Shadow-sq2yj Chuck E. Yeager. WW2 P51D pilot that was shot down over Europe. Supposedly forced a soldier trying to capture him to take his cynaide pill, and escaped back to Britian to continue serving.
Post ww2, he served in Vietnam flying F100s, F4s and other planes.
He then was reowned for being the first person to break the sound barrier in level flight, flying the Bell X-1, while having a broken rib from a horse riding accident a week (or day) before.
If the MiG-15 had that roll rate Korea would have been united in the 1960s.
Jokes aside amazing piece of history and representation. Your channel is so underrated among the history youtube communities.
He did choose to dove and chase a high speed sabre instead of going after the climbing one... Prolly why it took so long as so that the sabre's friends have time to bag around to help.
Вы переоцениваете значение Миг 15 в той войне. Несмотря ни на что в29 делали свое дело,сбрасывали килотонны бомб при потерях 0.5% на 100 вылетов. Палубная авиация США также работала на полную мощь оказывая непосредственную поддержку войскам, а Миги летали высоко и особых потерь им не нанесли.
@@Serg1710 ВВС США только за "черный четверг" (12.04.51) потеряли 10% от всего парка б29 в Корее. 12 б29 и 4 истребителя если в цифрах, после этого массового применения б29 не было, а от идеи уничтожить аэродромы в Китае с которых вылетали истребители Кореи, Китая и СССР отказались. Так что роль миг 15 очень даже значима.
This man was a badass. I am American, but I respect a brave, honorable, and noble soldier on ANY side. Any soldier who does not commit war crimes and follows the rules of war and saves lives, is a hero by my book. But men like Audie Murphy, Franz Stigler, Mad Jack Churchill, Alvin York, and Sergei here are heroes in another way as well. They have done MORE than risked their lives to defend the freedom and safety of their homelands, and that's what being a soldier is all about. o7
Defend the freedom and safety of their homelands? But for Sergei, he didn't need to do that because US didn't want to invade his country. In fact he fought in korean war because he was ordered to. It has nothing to do with his freedom and his homeland.
@@antoniussamuelson3748 Сергей коммунист и поэтому в его системе ценностей он сражался за счастье всего человечества
@@user-py7qj3ey8x or in reality he fought to bring north korean dictator kim ill sung back to power. Being communist is evil. They would kill many people. If he really fought for people around the world, he shouldn't fought on kim ill sung side in korean war.
4:29 War thunder be like: *YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING!*
Lol
should be 4:29
@@MStrykerMGS got it
@@yeettheheat alright, cool
More like You are missing a wing in your hole
I swear the animation keeps getting better and better each video
Yea
WE swear...
Ay its stalin
Y'all had some really good stuff going on there my good ol stalin
Thanks for your input Joseph Stalin
Much later general Kramarenko wrote a book "Against messers and sabres", were he mentioned this case. Btw, in Korea captain Kramarenko served in 176 air regiment, 324 division under comand kolonel Ivan Kozhedub.
That pilot also published his memoirs: "Against Messerschmitts and Sabres, in the skies of two wars." The point was, that over Yalu migs had objective to take down B-29 bombers/F-80 and F-84, not Sabres, so that causes some misunderstanding. Mig-15 pilots from USSR had 3.4 KDR against entire UN air group (including US, Australia, RK and some others), but sabres had around 1.8 KDR with migs that were often piloted by chinese. Also take in accordance that soviet pilots were in minority (like 150 vs 2k US pilots). What was different, that 64th air fighter corps had a part of 176th regiment in it (soviet antagonist of JG52 in WW2), so american pilots faced much more skilled, but outnumbered enemy. Also visited US by invitation from US B-29 pilot and had a meet with US fighter pilots. Really interesting biography.
I would hardly say the Soviets were more skilled than the US pilots as the sabres had a favorable kill ratio over the MiGs. That said the Soviet pilots were absolutely better than the North Korean and Chinese pilots.
@@jacobdewey2053 Sabres had better kdr vs migs, but migs didn't go for Sabres, their task was to take out US bombers, not the Sabres. That is why migs carried low rof 37mm and Sabres carried 6x.50. Plus, Soviet pilots at least in 1951 were represented by the regiment that had only skilled pilots. Basically it was created to gather all best pilots in one regiment to counter JG52 during WW2.
@@jacobdewey2053but soviet pilots shot down way more sabres
*when a random youtube channel with no funding makes better videos and teaches history better than an actual fully funded documentary and program channel that's literally called The History channel*
4 horsemen of history
1. Yarnhub
2. Simple history
3. Mark felton.
4. **Insert here**
Sorry, but he completly missed involvement of
.
.
.
ALIENS!
@@xalthzdornier4805 curious droid is also good
@@xalthzdornier4805 maybe Potential History, but I’m not too sure
@@xalthzdornier4805 No.4 can go to Oversimplified, Armchair Historian or to Knowledgia, they have some very great content
Its really interesting how a famous pilot died just reacently and we didnt know anout it
All respect for Kamerenko
Same here. There’s a story on Wikipedia where he ordered one of his squadron mates to break off a lone enemy jet after an aerial battle had ended.
Must correct your spelling. His name is Sergey Makarovich Kramarenko.
@@markmal8479 ty
What they also didn't mention in the video is that after he ejected, one of the Sabres was shooting at him while he was hanging defenseless in his parachute. Not sure that was a standard practice. You can find the whole story here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Kramarenko_(pilot)#Shot_down
One less commie
The main problem is that the direct comparison of loss ratio between MiGs and Sabres is somewhat invalid as the main objective of the MiGs was to bring down American bombers which they did admirably. Also MiG-15's and Sabres were not the only aircraft used and lost in Korea. Also the statistics based on claims are most likely inaccurate due to inability or unwillingness to verify the figures during the battle or immediately after it, mistakes, double-counting and/or deliberate exaggeration of one side's wins and lowering of their losses - is a common and universal practice. One of the way to get more or less adequate figures is to analyze reports considering equipment write-offs and casualties reports, missed in action after all those years may be safely considered KIA, I think.
P.S. I've watched a video today about German accounting of enemy tank kills, even the German High Command decided that kill claims should be divided by 2.
@Hyperborean Feelz the answer is mostly no, because the Soviet snipers had to prove their kills, at least the observers from other units/elements participating in action were to confirm the claim or some kind of trophy brought back like a dog tag, belt buckle or personal weapon to substantiate a confirmed kill". Still inaccuracies or ungrounded claims may have occured.
In terms of tanks/aviation only equipment write-offs may serve as more or less accurate source of information. Or trophy teams reports in case of tanks. Don't know about Germans but Soviet trophy teams catalogued destroyed vehicles so that those would be brought for scrapping or put into service/storage (certain trophy models were used "until used up"). As for storage... A friend of mine told me he saw some Panthers kept "for a rainy day" in a warehouse lost in the middle of Russian Nowhere).
@Hyperborean Feelz during the battle of Kursk both sides claimed to destroy more tanks than the enemy had in their ranks. Sometimes such things happen when a tank was indeed knocked out (not a total loss) but was repaired quickly enough.
As for Korea sometimes the aircraft were damaged very badly but they came back "on a wing and a prayer" and were considered destroyed by the enemy - in most cases the aircraft was of course written off in the aftermath but it also may have not been counted as a combat loss in that case.
@@JohanKlein u do be doing big brain moves tho
If those lost due to "accidents" are counted, the figure favors the MiG (Actually the Air Force, put most of those lost in combat as accident victims, so as not to damage morale!)
The numbers he cited are the numbers according to recent research on the topic. I fail to see why that first point invalidates the comparison when there's no difference in loadout between anti-fighter and anti-bomber duty for the MiG's (or any aircraft from that period) and they likely still patrolled at the same height for either. It's not like the Vietnam war where the USAF losses include bomb-laden strike aircraft incapable of defending themselves. The MiG's were still on CAP missions and more than capable of responding to fighter threats. The US pilots were just superior enough to take the lead in the kill ratio by a decent margin.
Another beautiful video from you guys! AMAZING work as always!
John Luther "Casey" Jones was a railroad engineer for the Illinois Central railroad, who died in the early morning of April 30, 1900. His steam-powered mail train had been rolling in a heavy rainstorm, and he rumbled into the area of Vaughan, Mississippi where the rear marker lights of another stalled train ahead was spotted by Jones' fireman, Simeon T. Webb. Casey ordered Webb to jump from the train, as he slammed on the brakes. He managed to slow the train down to 35MPH before plowing into the rear of the stalled freight train. Jones was the only causality, as he had sacrificed himself to save the people. A true hero! And it was probably why the leader was named Casey Jones. An experienced man who wasn't shy to make it known to everybody around. A bold man with tricks up his sleeve. Gotta love that humorous aspect from a past time.
Thank you for the video, keep it up!
1 minute early to the greatest history channel.
That's Mark Felton but this one is great on the animations
You also watch mark felton
@@AC1984 yesh😳
@@bigboi_zuez yeah mark is such an incredible historian so is this guy he puts it into prospective for us
@@AC1984 That plagiarism hack doesn't derserve any where near the top spot ( go look it up and you will see what i mean )
Not sure how to compliment this, because the more I watch the better it gets, so I just wanted to say, amazing!
Seem to remember reading a few years ago the battle between the two planes was also about technology. The Migs engines were British designed that the soviets copied and the sabres were German designed the Americans copied.
The graphics just keep getting better while maintaining the original sense of animation it had. This is rare, especially when done so well, I must give it to you that this is one of the best history channels I’ve ever seen
Goosebumps everytime... The narration, the music ohhh that go together all so perfectly! One day I'll meet a pilot from each one of these big conflicts (hopefully soon before they are all gone)
THEY HAVE LIP SYNCING NOW?!
Damn this channel continues to impress me with how much it improves from video to video
It's a good day when yarn hub posts
Fantastically rendered. Wonderfully presented thanks Yarnhub!
When you realize how smooth the animation is, AND the fact that they upload each week
You guys are seriously underrated man
P.S. keep up the great work
The YarnHub guy was born to narrate
lmao i see ur comments every video its weird XD
"And died, may 2020"
Bruh, could've told this story earlier!
It would of been 2d then
The last Chinese ace, Wang Hai, died in August. American Charles G. Cleveland is presently the only Korean War fighter ace left.
@@Thatguy-of5re Are there any Korean aces (North or South) left living?
@@AICW The South Korean Air Force didn't get its first jets until after the war, so there were no aces from that country. As far as I know, virtually nothing concrete is known about North Korea's reported fighter aces, or even if any even exist outside of propaganda.
@@Thatguy-of5re Oh cool thanks for the info.
Do you have more info on Wang Hai? And were there any other ace pilots on the UN side besides the Americans?
Y’all do such a good job of creating the perfect clash of amazing animation and in depth historical information all while keeping it short and sweet! Love it!
Dude I really don't know how is it even possible to make your animations even better
Like every week I be like : "bro there's no way he can make his animations better than this"
And then the very next week it's just sooooo much better
Your work is honestly amazing I hope you the best in everything :D
Вижу в небе белую черту
Мой "Фантом" теряет высоту.
Катапульта - вот спасенье
И на стропах натяжение.
Сердце в пятки,
В штопор я иду.
Это про Вьетнам ведь
Это про Вьетнамскую войну...
Фантомы ещё не придумали в Корейскую войну
Translate please 😁
@@felipeanton5437 it's song (Фантом Чиж)
Привет из Ростова-на-Дону , спасибо за интересный контент
Согласен) Кромаренко герой !
Greetings my brother from Novi Sad Serbia!
@@KristianHerdi и вы тоже не хворайте - доброго вам здоровья.
В наших фильмах соотношение в нашу пользу
@@user-fx4nw1eo5e Если брать соотношение советских и американских, тогда в пользу советских. Но летали ещё корейцы и китайцы. Когда они не справлялись, решили подкинуть опытных советских лётчиков в покрепление.
"Бл эк пин к 블랙핑크" LMAO TRAITOR
블랙핑크=black pink
@@yolito4273 한국인 어서오고
@@you_are_mother 어서오고
@@yolito4273 bruh,this aint kpop😂😂😂
Haha! I noticed those writings, too, particularly the 블랙핑크 one.
Great video! His skill is even more impressive, considering the MiG-15s all-cannon armament had only enough ammo for a couple seconds' consecutive firing. With a slow rate of fire, your aim had to be dead-on. However, if you hit, you were almost guaranteed a kill.
The MiG was armed with three cannons - heavier shells and longer range than the 6 x .50 calibre MG's of the Sabre. However, the MiG's gunsight was poor (the Sabre's was little better) and also the three cannon were very slow firing, the MiG having been designed as a high altitude strategic bomber interceptor (a large and steady target). Because the cannon only fired a few rounds per second, the chance of getting a hit on a violently manouvering Sabre was very low. The Sabre's own MG's didn't have such a great range or stopping power, but they had more seconds worth of firing (almost twice the MiG's, I believe) and also as they sprayed MG shells all over hte place there was a far greater chance of hitting a MiG, even if you didn't bring it down first time. MiG pilots tended to show their inexperience by the moment they were first hit, they tended to dive for the deck, a fatal error as the Sabre could actually out-dive the MiG (conversely, the MiG could both out-climb the Sabre and also fly at a higher altitude, but once combat was joined very few MiG pilots had the know-how to get the most from their planes; unless you had a very good Russian at the controls.
The Mig 15 only had a normal gunsight. The Sabre had a radar guided gun sight which took into account lead and stuff like that. Took a lot of the guess work when firing at the enemy. With such a low firing rate and very limited amount of ammunition and also there are just 3 of them, it is like trying to shoot a bird with a bolt action .22. Sure the bird will explode if you hit it but what are the chances of actually hitting it? Not so good. On the other hand, the Sabres SIX .50 caliber guns that fire at a much higher rate and has a good amount of ammunition, it is like trying to shoot a bird with a shot gun. It may not explode when you hit it but it will go down non the less. Much better chance of hitting it. So choose your poison.
@@75offensivetackle38 True, but if you read the memoirs and the records of the USAAF Sabre pilots, they often asked for the radar-guided gun-sight to be taken off their planes, as they felt it did not work properly and wanted to save as much weight as possible in order to dogfight better with the more agile MiG's. At least one leading Sabre pilot, no less than Frances 'Gabby' Gabreski, invented the 'gum sight', vowing that he would rather sight his guns using a wad of gum on his windshield rather than the new-fangled radar-guided sight!
@@xj900uk Hahahaha I read that somewhere. I am a big Gabby fan. I have built a model of his last aircraft. The one that sat in a German field for a long time. Dumbshit. "Oh I will go on one last mission." Then on the way back, "Oh my tracers are going over that aircraft. just dip the nose down a little bit and,..... opps what is all that oil doing squirting out on my windshield?" Unbelievable. The top ace in the theater and it wasn't a round from a German aircraft or anti aircraft gun. Wasn't engine problems. Hell it wasn't even something that moved that brought him down. It was the ground that took down Americas leading ace in Europe. Unbelievable that story was. Way to go Gabby. hahahahhaha
@@xj900uk the early save as also where more maneuverable at high speed that the migs due to design
I believe the sabre had a better tail type
normal people: how inspiring!
me: plane go brrrrrr brrrrrrr neyoooooowww brrrrrr bop bop bop
Your plane goes pew pew while mine goes *BRRRRRRRRRRRR*
Am I the only one who has said it out loud?
Settle down beavis! Huh, huh, huh.
In September 1958, a sidewinder missle got lodged into the side of a MiG-17 after failing to detonate, giving the Soviet Union access to our most effective missile at the time. Not long after, the Chinese captured an air base in Korea and getting their hands on some AIM-9's, and the Soviets persuaded them to hand one over. The USSR reverse engineered these two examples to produce the K-13 (NATO designation: AA-2) which entered service in 1961. The degree of commonality between the two missiles was so close that subsequent examinations of K-13 missiles captured by NATO forces showed that parts from an AIM-9 could be interchanged with parts from a K-13 and either combination would still work.
This really is one of my favorite channels. Great animations and amazing story’s! Keep up the good work guys!!
this is brilliantly animated and brings the pilot's story to life for us. I am sure we would have loved it if he was still alive.
You should do a video on the legendary B17 known as “Old-666”
Woah cool name
The crew less one?
@@APersonOnCZcamsX nah that would be the one that was fitted with extra machine guns and sent on a solo recon mission, and was jumped by between 7 and 20 Japanese fighters (depending on the source)
The History channel did a Dogfights episode on it back in the day, look up Dogfights: Long Odds
bruh i just wanna say that the animations of the faces are BEATIFUL.
What an animation you've guys, pretty much beautiful.
Another masterpiece of artwork! So entertaining and amazing as always!!!
Can we appreciate the fact that he always has captions ready in his videos
The amount of detail in this video is genuinely insane, thank you for making content! I remember when it was just 2D animation.
Funny thing I just recently started liking old jets like the mig 15 and the sabre!
So this is perfectly timed I really support the channel and have shared it to all my friends and they have shared to theres!
They all enjoyed and you sure do deserve way more subscribers I hope for a jump of subscribers and you to reach 500k-600k by the end of the year I’ll always be watching the videos!
Incredible animation! Great story telling, the complete package!
Thanks for this. I live close to the DMZ and always appreciate coming across coverage of the Korean War -- fantastic to get some high quality content from you on the subject. The contrails and dogfight animation is superb!
Also, great joke included in the Russian pilots' cheat sheet of Korean expressions. :)
Yeah. Only a bearer of the knowledge of the articles-free language can understand it. Although I, as a bearer of the one, cannot because it is not the Korean one.
I still remember the time this channel was in 2d animation, It's really amazing how your detail evolved to this. Really looking forward to your work in the future.
I love these videos about typically unknown things. The Korean War especially, I had no idea bout MiG Alley or Honchos. More, please!
This is a Great Video Again Yarnhub
You are the Best
Every time I watch your videos
I learn more
2:32 Ammo will run out in a few second if MiG-15 shooting like that lol.
Yup, it was designed for intercepting bombers in a group with a flight of 3 other mig 15
its so amazing tht a bomber interceptor gave a tough fight to fighter lmao
@@sayedumar3065 if you play gs3 heroes of mig alley and read the text in the first mission and about the mig 15, it is written the plane has heavy weaponry to down bombers, but not fighters as they expected slow jets or propeller powered fighters, not f86 sabres in the beginning of the war
To be fair the F-86's ammo load didn't last much either, 10 seconds (300 rpg at 1,800 RoF).
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 but it is more than 400 rounds(130 rpg 2×20mm and 40 rounds in 37mm)
I’m really happy I came across this channel the visuals and narration are very nice to watch and listen too
This is an absolutely incredible video. Thanks for the new and unique content about fascinating stories!
Man do I love aerial combats! Thanks again for the amazing content and the history story you gave us YarnHub! looking forward to more, and the animations are impressive as ever.
Damn that man is a legend... Great video btw
The quality is great yarnhub keep it up
I sincerely hope you hit 1 million within a month
You are so underrated, I have never seen such a good narration and animation at the same time
0:08
Waait how is that mig rolling? War thunder says it can't!!!
Dafaq if you can roll a Boeing 707 you can roll a Mig-15
Case of point m.czcams.com/video/AaA7kPfC5Hk/video.html
@Srihari Madhav that’s the joke
the MiG 15 CAN roll, the thing is it didnt had a lot of Hydraulics so you needed a lot of muscle, thats the why of the low roll rate.
Well in this case war thunder is more likely to be correct after all they base their FM's on real life documents and info(although poorly sometimes) meanwhile this animation tries to make planes roll unnecessarily and in the case of the mig unrealistically
I love how the crew at yarnhub aren't biased to any nation. Any nation has a great story. They enlighten us. Much love yarnhub.❤
Mig 15s vs. B-29s video would be AWESOME!
These keep getting better and better! They remind me sooo much of the show Dogfights on History Channel. Idk if anyone remembers that? It was on about 15 years ago. But especially your voice... It's like the narrator's voice from around that time. It may sound weird but watching your videos gives me comfort, it brings me back to those times. Keep up the great work!!!
Love this!!! This channel is literally the best storytelling channel... I cannot believe how realistic this channel has become while keeping the Yarnhub feel! Congrats!
For a second I thought this was a movie because I didn't pay attention to who made it and I was like "wow this movie looks really good what is it called" great job man!
Tracers, the fire, the cockpit, looks AMAZING.
Excellent video, animation and engaging history. I agree with another comment at how the animation quality of Yarnhub's videos is getting better faster than the Mig in the video is flying. Keep up the great work.
Much respect to both sides in these battles. Had to be some incredible pilots! I sincerely hope we never have to see Russians and Americans fighting each other again though. Wishful thinking, I’m sure.. but one can hope!
🇺🇸🤝🇷🇺
In the world of capitalistic Atlases, the merge is almost unavoidable.
it seems that ordinary people do not want war, it is always bad
oh sh*t…
I saw a MIG 15 at an air show once. Holy shit, what a beaut of a bird
Every time I think it’s at its best,the animations just get better
Man, I've been binging your videos. You have an excellent ability to tell a short story, keep it interesting and suspenseful, and the animation is greatly entertaining.
It's really interesting. Thanks for a good job. I hope Russians and Americans will never fight again.
Maybe eventually we'll unit against China.
@@ChrisGilliamOffGrid Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
.
wow, I can't think of how historical content can get 8000 views in 30 minutes
You’re a little off ... now over 27,000 views just an hour or so after the video was posted.
@@ELCADAROSA It is 46000 in 4 hours brother.
@@abhaypathak5347, and increasing at a rate unmatched by any MiG!
See the move " The Hunters" with Robert Mitchum and a VERY young Robert Wagner...the MiG pilot is "Casey Jones"...with a paIr of dice...7-11 on the nose...the movie made the F 86 my favorite aircraft at the time...
Great video, I enjoyed the historical views of MIG alley.
I just love this channel!
Hey yarnhub, not going to lie your animation is the best especially when you make aviation video. So can you make a video about when the first American ace in mig alley (Korean war) and the second video is when mig 15 landed in American airbase in 1953. Please give me a heart after this
Visuals are stunning. I am stunned.
Amazing video as always!
You forgot to say about a "black Thursday", "black Tuesday" and 90 lost B-29 and others types of jet fighters
Ну хотя бы про него рассказали, уже хорошо)
Nice try Ivan - only lost 3 aircraft. But that was a bad day for the USAF it’s true.
“USAF pilots nicknamed April 12, 1951 "Black Thursday", after 30 MiG-15s attacked 48 B-29 bombers escorted by approximately 100 F-80s and F-84s. The MiGs were fast enough to engage the B-29s and extend away from their escorts. Three B-29s were shot down and seven more were damaged, with no casualties on the communist side.[5] Following this, USAF bomber sorties over Korea were halted for approximately three months. Bomber commanders were forced to discontinue daylight raids, and changed to night missions by small formations.”
“By August 1952, the tide of battle above "MIG Alley" had turned in favor of the United Nations. During that month 63 MiGs were shot down for the loss of only nine Sabres. An important reason for the increasing superiority of UN air power was the new F86-F, which had been issued to two squadrons of the 51st Wing in June and July and began reaching the 4th Wing in September.”
@@jthunders Хорошая попытка, Джон, только бы в Черный четверг было потеряно больше самолетов. Намного больше.
"12 апреля 1951 года в небе Кореи произошло событие, вошедшее в историю Америки как "Черный четверг". Меньше чем за 10 минут ВВС США потеряли 14 самолетов: 10 тяжелых бомбардировщиков и 4 истребителя, ещё 15 тяжелых бомбардировщиков было списано после возвращения на базу. Около 120 человек личного состава попали в плен. Атаковавшие их советские истребители вернулись на базу без потерь.
30 октября 21 «Суперфортресс» в сопровождении почти 200 истребителей различных типов были атакованы сорока четырьмя МиГ-15 (по другим данным, последний налёт бомбардировщики B-29 совершили 28 октября 1951 года). В результате боя советские лётчики сбили двенадцать В-29 и 4 F-84. Кроме того, многие «Крепости» получили повреждения - практически каждый вернувшийся экипаж привёз убитых или раненых. Американцам удалось сбить всего один МиГ-15.[8]. В историю ВВС США этот день вошёл как «Чёрный вторник». После него трое суток ни один американский самолёт не появлялся в зоне действия МиГов (по другим данным, уже 1 ноября в зоне действия МиГов появилась группа из 14 F-84).
Лишь через месяц три В-29, прикрываемые "Сейбрами", попытались вновь совершить налёт в дневное время на переправы через реку Ялуцзян. Однако МиГи сбили все три машины."
@@apollinarumrestriger6663 Yeah I read the same article by NIkolai Malishevsky, he says 12 planes were hit but only four went down. That was definitely the best day for the Soviet Mig-15 pilots. Otherwise they lost to the USAF two to one. Thank you Sir Stifford Craps for giving Rolls-Royce Nene engines to the Soviets, it would’ve taken them years to perfect a Jet engine otherwise.
czcams.com/video/rp_WHhzLTC0/video.html
@@jthunders Что мешало американцам использовать Rolls-Royce Nene, если всё дело в нём?
yarnhub спасибо за русские субтитры
Seriously, Yarnhub always describes the story well with stunning animation. Well done as always.
If we are getting into this war in the air now, gotta do when Chuck Yeager shot down a MiG in a P-51B Mustang or maybe just a full video on his war-life, like some others have got.
Привет из России, друзья мои!
Hello from Russia,my friends!
Lets live in peace!
ps. We must dig the "Axe of War" as deep as we can
USA and Russian friends 4ever✌
Ураа, даже не верится что YarnHub оценил мой комментарий
Huuraah, I cant believe, that YarnHub likede my comment)
If only our governments could see it that way...
Hi i'm Italian i Hope to see Russia in future like a Friends country ,💪
I love your videos, like literally bro, I LOVE THEM 😍!
U really define what history is! Amazing videos and great work!
2:03 That is some fantastic attention to detail of the planes dropping their fuel pods for dogfighting
I really love your vids i really love to listen to your history videos
It's certainly interesting that WW2 pilots that fought on the same side were now flying up against each other in a death battle.
Respects to the pilots from both sides of the war.
That just shows how politics works, soldiers have to follow the bs orders so the politicians can boast their ego
I'm loving your videos. Keep them going!
ive always loved watching your airplane videos, because for the most part they stick to reality, without any crazy zero gravity maneuvers, but the sabre spin at 1:26 is just hilarious
Man just pulled a kulbit with a second generation jet, absolute mad man
Dude just pulled a Belkan Magic out of his arse