How Andrea Pirlo Sees Football
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When Andrea Pirlo announced his retirement in 2017 he embarked upon a coaching journey which has been unusual. Fast-tracked to Juventus’s first team Pirlo’s vision for the Serie A side was made clear through the publication of his UEFA Pro Coaching License thesis.
So what did it say?
Eric Laurie explains. Henry Cooke illustrates.
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Pirlo: ‘I don't feel pressure, either. I don't give a toss about it. I spent the afternoon of Sunday, July 9, 2006, in Berlin sleeping and playing the PlayStation. In the evening, I went out and won the World Cup’. 🍷
This quote is iconic in retrospective, but lets not forget that Italy won the WC in a penalty shootout, so its not like they dominated France or anything. In the end they tossed a coin and Italy was on the fortunate side. They easily could have lost and he probably wouldnt have told what he did during the day.
@@eiskaltertorjaeger let’s not forget France only drew level from a penalty. And let’s not pretend shootouts are as clear cut as a coin flip. Not to mention the whole calciopoli scandal going on during this period.
@@thescoutn2967 What i wanted to say with my comment is that Italy didnt dominate France in this game and it was more of a 50/50 game. If Xavi told the public that he played Playstation the whole day before destroying and completely dominating Man United in the UCL Final 2011, the quote would have a whole other level.
@@eiskaltertorjaeger Penalty shootouts are pretty much a test of who can handle the pressure better. Pirlo handled it perfectly, just like he said in the quote
@Brilliant Movie Shots Which, incidentally, is further supported by a penalty shootout
Hope he gets a job with a young Serie A side and has time to build something special
Atlanta
@@atulrcks
No. Remove Gasperini from that team and they will go back to being another middling serie a team
@@atulrcks man said atlanta
@@cameron2348 lol yeah because Atlanta are a lower mid table that he can improve ffs 🤦♂️
@@imputinandihaveasmallpeepe9165 and I dont remember atlanta relocating from the US to Serie A...
His footballing strategy only works assuming every member of the pitch has the same level of vision as he has, or at least a high level of tactical understanding and game awareness, which is great on paper but not necessarily applicable in practice. Juventus often ended up just looking lost on the pitch with an over-reliance on precisely the kind of individual brilliance that Pirlo’s system demands of every team member, but naturally it often failed against tactically disciplined and well-coached sides. It’s also not a very incisive style of football either, as in practice it often just led to Juventus constantly rotating possession aimlessly around the midfield, without any strategy to create the final pass for the goal scoring opportunity. Sure, you can open up spaces in midfield to receive or carry the ball, but disciplined teams will just sit in a compact block and refuse to get tempted out of their lines and there’s nothing the midfield or forwards can do about it, especially considering the Juve midfield is so unproductive from a creative, or even goal scoring sense.
It shows in contrast how refined Guardiola's tactics are. Guardiola wants his players to perform similar things but where Pirlo relies on a player's ability to fluidly apply his concepts Guardiola's players are told to perform specific movements in response to specific situations. Overall it's not that different, it's just much easier to get players to follow a mental flow-chart than to rely on them intuitively understanding space.
"only works assuming every member of the pitch has the same level of vision as he has, or at least a high level of tactical understanding and game awareness"
So never.
@@alexw8357 Guardiola's players are capable of making those spontaneous movements due to his training methods. Those movements arent rehearsed they are instinctive
@@kurington.blogspot7876 There are players who have that level of vision. The problem is that they aren't easy to find and need to be given some kind of aptitude test to figure out if they have that ability, you can't just spot it. Pirlo himself was relegated to the bench with Inter and played well with smaller clubs Brescia & Reggina before going to AC Milan.
@@messigoh6061 His training methods will involve attacking patterns of play, based on different formations and adapted to the up coming opponents defensive weaknesses. Therefore a fair amount of the movement will be rehearsed. I do wonder how much freedom he does allow certain players - De Bruyne for example.
Thats why he is suitable at first when managing Juve u-23, so he can applied his vision to the younger side player for next gen football. It is too early when he appointed as Juve main squad manager and when he wants to applied it to current squad who already played awhile with experience manager like Conte and Sarri its hard to implement his vision to the current Juve team at that time. Hope he still get his job in Juve u-23 though.
Sounds like my Physics Professor, who thought we would understand what a Hamiltonian does if he just writes down the wave equation
Omg this comment hits so hard hahahaa. And then when you get used to the wave funktions you get the Zeeman efect and spins xD
@@gueswho8815 Understanding spins was the most difficult for me, there were no illustrations or intuitive explanations on how 1/2 spins could exist.
"So, this is Dirac's equation... Homework is for next monday by the way!"
@@rockingttalent3666 i mean. They exist alright. But they dont spin hahahaha. They should probably change from spin to something else lmao
The physics is lost on me - but I get what you're saying exactly - telling someone and teaching someone are different
He sees it through an Italian bottle of wine
🍷😎
This is actually what I had expected Barca to look like when Xavi took control.
While progress has been made, certain elements still remain unclear, particularly because Xavi has never really opened up on the tactical side of his plans after taking control of Barca.
On paper, Barca has a number of creative players, who could control the midfield as a team. However, most of Barca's performances are due to the individual brilliance of players rather than teamwork.
I think its also the fact that a lot of the key players are having lots of injury issues so its hard for xavi to really finalize a team tp build on since it changes pretty often.
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But we can defo see the positive impact that he has made and im sure with some signings in the summer he can get barca back to the top
Many players in Barca have a hard time adapting that Barca style from the old era. Players like Depay, Dembele, Dest and Luuk De Jong and Braithwaite have a hard time adapting to it, even though at times they display individual brilliance as mentioned.
Pedri, Gavi, Ferran, Fati, Alba, Araujo, Puig, Alves seem to have the system down packed more than other players and even Masia graduates who are still trying to find their form. I think this is why Xavi is gonna go down that road that Guardiola went and start offloading players who just don't fit those plans regardless how good they are on their own. I like Dest and Dembele a lot and wish Barca wouldn't offload them, maybe they need time. But I can tell its a mixture of player discipline (Dembele) and the player just not getting it right (Dest) which cause issues that Xavi hasn't had patience for. They wanted to keep Dembele to pair him up with Ferran and hopefully teach Dembele that formula considering his ridiculous speed and footwork they didn't wanna let go to waste. But it seems because he's conflicted with staying or going at Barca, they don't want to take chances anymore. As for Dest, there's a reason Bayern want him. Because Bayern relies on Fast and Hard Presses forward with positional play that suits Serginio's style better. Dest fights for the ball and will take it where it needs to go, but once passing/crossing is involved, Barca's style trips him up.
If Xavi doesn’t develop across the next few years, and Pirlo develops into a more complete manager, Pirlo at Barca could genuinely be really interesting to see. Plus it has the romance of him never quite completing the move to them during his playing career to it
tbh pirlo's managing was so bad, he couldn't really control the dressing room after a big loss. but from what I see xavi doing both of these well. if pirlo also had a good managing skills he could be a good manager by now. look at guardiola 100 managing and 100 tactic
@@virusvirussaldo6052 i think they are both great managers, pirlo just had it tougher cause he had some big egos who didn't respect him as a manager. Hope to see him back to coaching again.
Would like to see Solskjaer's paper too
"Have fun"
"Express yourself"
"oh you lost the ball, no problem try again next time"
As expected when something about tactics comes up, Ole comes up being the ‘ultimate antithesis to tactics’…. Go try to get a coaching badge then if you can do better.
@@bryanngdawei3282 It's a joke fam
@@bryanngdawei3282 r/whoosh - found the olesexual
Pilro is a possibility to SLBenfica next year. Rui Costa is the new Benfica´s president. They are best friends and Benfica needs a coach with status and vision.
Would be brilliant to see them together. Two former Milan players striving at Portugal’s peak. Football produces some great stories. I’ll keep a keen eye on Benfica next season. Also that Darwin Nunez seems to have a bright future ahead.
This just sounds like Pirlo describing 'Total Football' in his own words.
With his eyes.
One of the classy footballers ever!
No need for 'most' if you already put 'classiest'
@@epicwhitebread5772 football is a global sport, not everyone’s first language is English. You understood the meaning of their comment, why be pedantic?
@@Ren_1090 No harm intended, English isn't my first language either.
I actually improved my english by people correcting my grammar on comments.
@@epicwhitebread5772 funnily enough, I think this is the first genuine comment trying to improve someone’s grammar. Fair play.
Pirlo's vision makes a lot of sense, & at the time Juve were looking for attractive footballing principles which Pirlo had quite a couple. Is it possible that Pirlo was the right coach at the wrong time considering the teams transition period as well as their reliance on CR7?
In other words the wrong coach
But without that reliance on CR7, those team will be look more headless chicken tbh.
He’s a fantastic coach, juve underachieving was less on his head than injuries and an aging squad. Didn’t deserve the sack imo
I like the way the videos are done not bland and just words Ona screen but with some pictures this is good for me thank you
Typical final year thesis… brilliant on paper, then terrible when it’s applied lmao
He really should experiment with a B team or under 23 team. Would help him get confident in or fine tune the ideas.
In other words he should have told Juventus to do one and stayed the u23 manager?
What a great segment!!!
I'm so grateful for you guys making this video.
The transition of being a coach from being a player is complicated and Not easy to under go . Sometimes it's underestimated by players who were good in football. Then there's Zidane 🙌. But my point is just coz u were a good player don't mean coaching will be a walk in a park.
he sees it from his television at home
A really enjoyed this video, well done
Made me fall in love with the game
He sees by swerving his heads slightly to the left before his opponent notices
btw i would like to see if tifo can make a sensible transfers video for everton
need more vids like this
Amazing video! This reminds me a little of what Patrick Vieira is trying to achieve at Palace- is this the case?
Its just what is considered as modern football.
Its in fashion and hip. But it is certainly easier said than done.
I think Juve should’ve kept him and I’m not a Juve fan. Especially now that the team can focus on rebuilding.
If you were a Juve fan, you wouldn't want to keep him
I agree, I'm a juve fan and I wish we kept pirlo. He had a food idea of football and got better results than allegri is getting with much less investment
This is a great philosophy, but your gonna need every player with a high based technical level and a good first touch. Also pressing for a full match. Your gonna have to rest with the ball.
He sees it from the unemployment line 😂
Pirlo is the boss in his own company, actually.
🤣😂😭
I didn’t know they had to write a thesis paper to get their license. Cool.
Glad to see me and Pirlo agree on many things
Great video, would love to see him at Everton 😂
0:50 Damn, that's awesome
I love this channel
I haven't read Unai Emery's paper but I am sure it starts with "Good Ebening" and ends with "Good Night".
Same as Pep and Cruyff, nothing new here. Sachi tried that with Milan in the early 90s
Could you do a story about Royal union gilloise from belgian pro league
No tactics just wine 🍷
.0000000000000000001% of ppl will get this
But gdamn it, it had to be done
An explanation of this playing style would have been much more interesting if it was from a coach that's actually successful with it, like Pioli at Milan
Great to see so much Juve based content I love it
Considering that ot was his first job and what a weird season( without any pre season) it was i think pirlo did a decent job woth juvenetus, specially after the end of sarri's tenure where juve couldn't even scrape through games or were barely managing to win any games
There are lot of similarities in Pirlo with Guardiola but one is successful one didn't! I think it's all goes on the way they train! Pep trains every player to have that vision or game awareness when ball is displayed or passed but in the case of Pirlo(Juve) players usually felt confused!!
Huge part of being a manager imo is knowing how to transmit your ideas to the players and make them understand, people like Pep and Klopp have mastered that!
But unlike Pirlo, Pep had some experience with Barca B before he started coaching senior team which probably helped him with the application of his philosophy
@@Re-dj5mf I am not telling about Pirlo's credibility or Pep was brilliant from the start! Am just stating the fact and yeah you are absolutely right! Pirlo as coach was sudden decision and also premature one!
No wonder they finished 4th, other teams had a blueprint on how they were going to play.
That doesn't matter as much as you would think. This isn't a military campaign with surprise attacks.
For instance when at Inter, everyone knew what Conte was doing with the 3-5-2 and the wing backs, still nobody could stop it because it was so well executed and other teams didn't the personel to deal with it.
@@xClunky it was more of a joke than anything else
@@xClunky how true is this?
As an engineer and lover of football I know this looks great on paper but poor in practice. The greatest managers have been highly adaptable and flexible to the players they have at hand, ie. adapt the theory to practice: Zidane in the last decade or SAF in the previous, or the evergreen Don Carlo.
Theories are beautiful on paper but practice is what makes them beautiful in reality.
Pirlo’s biggest issue was that his Juventus side conceded too many goals. It wasn’t the Juventus standard everyone was used to and led to them dropping points in game they’d usually close out 1-0. The team looked like they were finally starting to click near the end of the season and I wonder what he would’ve been able to achieve with a proper pre season and transfer window. His Juventus created the most goal scoring chances in Serie A, ahead of Atalanta and champions Inter. His Juventus did have some glimpses of champaign football to them at the end of his tenure.
God bless you, Joe Devine
It says Fluidity, Dynamic space occupation and Positional Rotation.
That's exactly what Zidane does in his teams to create balance and he isn't credited enough.
Pity...
Now I understand why Pirlo was summoned over the Barca job after Koeman
Is this a reupload? I can remember Joe already having narrated this with more static visuals..
When Ronald Koeman handed in his paper, the UEFA rep opened it and all he wrote was "MeSsi" in crayon and nothing else. 🤣
Pirlo could dictate games in his slippers
I dictate games in my slippers
In the streets 😜🤟
if he has muller in this playing style, he could wreak havoc
That is a really interesting idea, In some weird time line muller and pirlo would of Played just fine
I don’t see anything groundbreaking here in his ‘vision’ or philosophy. That’s not to say it’s not good. It’s a great way to play and great ideas but it’s only as good as the players you’ve got and the way you coach it. He was a very good, intelligent player, but I think because of his appearance we think he’s some kind of renaissance man.
My all time favorite midfielder, mad vision, class, legend. I stopped watching the sport for 6 months when he hung his boots up.
Sad to see people in disbelief here in the comments! These are concepts, just the basis and not the whole thing. I really disagree that this kind of ideas assumes and demands high football IQ levels by every player. Sure, there's a lot of work beyond develop the theory, you must find a way to turn all of it into praxis. However, the guys that step on the pitch must be capable of think a little, c'mon!
Great video, by the way! Love Pirlo, love Tifo.
I downloaded his thesis a few years ago, when it became available. But it is really basic and unspecific without actually defining key principles, that aren't extremely generic. Such a shame
Unfortunately for his coaching career he gives far too much credit for intelligence for most players. Regardless of the fact that Juventus stalled to 4th place when he was in charge, he was still better than Allegri has been every year after that.
I am happy to have watched him play since he was 17. And to prove the point at Brescia in 2001-2002 his precise passes made Dario Hubner, the 35 year old Italian journeyuman sriker, Dario Hubner Caopocannonieer with 24 goals. Tied with David Trezeguet of Juventus and ahead of Christian Vieri, Alessandro Del Piero, Andre Shevchenko and Hernan Crespo. Thats in the days when Serie A was still considered the best league in the world.
what about his defensive strategies?
He wants Kante plus eyes on this back 🙏🏿
85% of what Pirlo just described here is what attacking manager uses
What is the paper called?
Looks kind of great but he needs to remember todays players suffer from Ego and indidualism. I like his idea of dinamic diamond shapes but dont really like the space occupacion/manipulation strategy he wants to implement because it only works on sides that don't press much. That said, it would suffer with teams that park the bus. He needs to add an element of aerial threat and some world class dribbler roles on his arsenal for it to be more balanced
Judgin by the thumbnail, he sees it while tripping
Watch Arteta's Arsenal.
there was a passing move (lacazette's goal against Southampton) were tomiyasu ended up in the box ahead of lacazette whilst bringing the ball out from the back with ben white and oodegard covering defensively for Tomi.
This "pirlo tactics" is not realistic as a whole only in very separate units.
This style of football is attractive but hard to implement on the pitch. Remember the easier the system, the simpler it is to implement on the pitch. Maybe he will be successful with another team
Pirlo is doing some good acid to warrant that thumbnail cover.
This is just basic modern football tactics is it not? I'm no expert but I love the subject and have read about it extensively.
On his TV
I thought answer would be eyes 😔😔
As much as his vision is nothing short of genius, the only way it would function properly is if everyone has the same level of knowledge as himself.
Hello there
Eric Ten Hag should be next
My goodness, is really astonishing how Pirlo got so overrated so fast. Not because he doesn't have the capabilities (we don't know yet actually), but because he was regarded as a revolutionary genius from the start, only because of his past as a player (btw, top 3 playmaker in history no question) and a primary school level essay, which he probably didn't write himself. In the meantime, reality saw him leading a Serie A winning side to a super-lucky 4th place, and an embarassing CL elimination, while expressing an abysmal and bland style of play. And it honestly wouldn't be so infuriating if people didn't keep talking about "Pirlo's visionary idea of football", while absolutely ignoring actually talented emerging managers like Juric (which is one the best managers in Serie A and I doubt people outside of Italy have ever heard about) and Italiano, who took lesser sides and lead them to great results while playing proposing and attacking football.
I am not gonna say you are wrong and I think part of thee fuss around him is due to the fact that Juve couldn't/didn't want to pay for another manager and had to back him. But first, a couple of things:
1- pirlo had like 10 days of pre-season at best because of covid delays and everything.
2- he also was deeply unlucky: he lost one of the best players of the previous season (Dybala) for basically the entire season, Chiellini still had physical problems until later on and De Ligt was out too because of a shoulder injury he had suffered and played over for a long while, and he too was out until late November/beginning of december. Arthur Melo was out for most of the season too, I almost forgot he was already there, and Ramsey was in and out due to physical problems as well (Prilo even praised some of his performances!). Even Alex Sandro was out until january which meant he basically had 4 players for a 4 men defense.
3- speaking of the personel he had, Bernardeschi hit rock bottom for reasons other than him (he had basically no place in Sarri's Juve and this affected his confidence), Chiesa arrived late and the fullback situation was so bad that Cuadrado still played most of his games as rightback and even some as leftback.
4- the midfield was AWFUL. He had lost Pjanic, he didn't get Locatelli, he only had Bentancur (who never grew into the player Juve hoped he would be), McKenney (who was far better than expected but still a bit of an uncut gem), Rabiot (who played his best football at Juve under Pirlo, but still wasn't nearly worth his salary) and that's it. None of these players are terrible, but none is capable of being a good enough playmaker, which meant that they were more about ballwinning and most creativity came from the side, and overeliance that even now Allegri hasn't solved.
5- the attack was Ronaldo-centric, we know why this may be an issue but I'd argue that in Serie A this was less of a problem... but there was no link between midfield and attack: Kulusevski (who ended up playing the most games under Pirlo, even though he started few, which means Pirlo was investing in his development) wasn't ready for a starting position (but he did start the first few games), Morata is not a genuine linkman and Dybala played like 2-3 full games.
6- despite all this, Pirlo only really had a bad START of the season with half squad missing. the first international break that took Cuadrado and a still kinda fit Dybala, plus all Italian players away after just week didn't help with squad-building and he basically didn't have all fit players at his disposal for training sessions up until the beginning of October. He dropped many points in the first few games and throughout the first half of the campaign, but after that he had a pretty strong run. Not only he won both the Supercup and the Coppa Italia (beating Inter over two legs), but he also got back into Champions League spots (with quite a bit of luck, not gonna lie, but he was just there when Napoli dropped point at the last minute so... Not so bad). So... Yeah not a Guardiola first season but also not nearly the same situation! Plus he heavily invested into younger players (McKenney, Kulusevski, Chiesa) without overbearing them with responsibility so I'd say he did a pretty good job overall. And winning 3-0 away at Camp Nou was the cherry on the cake, useless as it was.
@@M..n..M not reading all that
@@pringles1717 it is not required, but the TLDR is: he missed far too many key players due to injuries, basically didn't have a progressive midfield passing option and had no preseason which lead to a very poor start tha compromised the whole season. The details are there.
Pep : "I don't write papers , papers write me"
Coming up with a theory is easy. Executing it irl is the hard part, just look at any of my Football Manager career saves.
I’m so looking forward to a change of the OFFSIDE rule so some other geometrical genius coach will invent the MAN MARKING !
Idk but Steven Gerrard is going to be a very very good coach.
Considering the fact that how Villa is playing. So good.
No one is highlighting him is baffling.
Well Gerrard was pathetic was fired
Seems a lot like Peps city atm
How is this seeing it differently - it's all the same ideas that everyone else is using as they all try and say - "I'm a student of Cruyff".
The difference and visions come, from the likes of Pep and Klopp, when they respond to the players they have - firstly, using the player they already are and the person they are to improve them, and then making the small adjustment with game-day set-ups so the "system" or way of playing, works for the players.
Do you think Pep would have developed his Barca system exactly as he did if he didn't recognise the specific type of player Messi was, or Iniesta or Xavi?
There's no point in having a thesis if your players can't play it
Anybody can read this stuff in a book - this is just writing symphonies on paper - to give it sound - it's got to be played on the pitch
Man actually use 10 logs and Zidane tactic but now with 11 Zidane
When you copy your final exam from Xavi sitting next to you....
Goodness Gracious! Get this man a big cabinet at home. Here come the trophies!!!
Before Xavi and Iniesta, was Pirlo.
this all sounds nice and all, but would pirlo be able to implement his ideals in any premier league club right now and be successful
Yeah. Watford would give him a bash for a few weeks 😂
If he had time to buy the players necessary and given a budget... I think he'd do alright depending the team
@@bengreening9387 lmao maybe in the championship next season
i was thinking if pirlo would be able to join everton and build on his vision there, but i feel like pirlo would not be suited as a manager that can save a club from relegation, and no i don't support everton or any clubs in general
@@yungtrashlord I still think Watford can fit in one more manager after Hodgson before the end of the season
Pirlo would have had fit Barcelona instead of Xavi
Since when did passing and moving become an unconventional way of seeing football
Fall of Reading FC pls
6min 11 sec video for telling "eyes"
Xavi player>>> Pirlo player
Xavi coach
I think he currently sees football on his tv JUVE MERDA
Still no Chelsea Sensible Transfers??
'Maurizio*'. 'The football I would like*'.
With his eyes
no need to thank me tho
Where is Chelsea sensible transfers??
do Allegri
iQuit seems like a parody from GTA Fictional Websites… but nevertheless this is a great video!
WHY
what's new ?