BOOST/TUNE Table Tennis Rubber So Easy With BABY OIL | MLFM Table Tennis Tutorial
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Better not apply this oil on babies. They go bouncy
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hahaha :))
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People around me wondered why I suddenly laughed.
Please be honest
Wow, nice video XD Important to have a large fan base and consistent content !
thank you coach for sharing the video .. great as always does
can it be used for the pre-glued rubber?
Em thấy có vài người tra 2 lớp keo sữa lên mặt, 1 lớp lên vợt r mới dán vào, v có ổn ko a?
I applied on Blue sponge DHS.. After 24 hrs I can't see much change in shape of rubber... What do you suggest.?
Are Xiom Vega Def and Xiom Oza hard enough to use that too?
when i used hurricane 3 it took a lot of effort which ipproves your playing style
Thx for video. Whats the differ between boostering by special booster and baby oil? Booster price x20 compare baby oil.)
You said H3 is bouncier after baby oil. Have you tested H3 without oil and H3 with baby oil? Is it definitive that baby oil makes it bouncier?
Virgin lamp oil is best. Cover rubber and let sit 12 hours then cover again. Let sit one week and rubber will curl so put book on it last 3 days. Apply and it will stay tuned for weeks.
I use 2 layers of thin outdoor paraffin lamp oil to my kokataku 868 and wait for 48 hours before gluing to my dawei crystal st carbon blade.i got quiet a decent curl.
I can say for period of 3 weeks i notice strampoline effect from the hand feeling just like speed glue. Speed i say 10% But i cannot surely say the spin has increased but it didnt bothered because rubber has tremondous spin even before boosting.
Thank you
I did this to my one year old h3 neo, it works.....monster spin, more bouncy and more control ! Thank you very much ! 💪😍💪
Does your H3 Neo is commercial version? The cheapest one?
#Beyond Godlike I’ve been doing this to my h3n rubbers since 2015. I use the the commercial versions and it makes a difference for sure.
yo4i I remember the first time I did it to my H3N rubber that was over a year old. This was back in 2015 and I had just learned about boosters and heard baby oil works too. My observation was same as yours, and to this day I treat all my h3n rubbers with baby oil. I have rubbers over a year old going strong, that I’ve had to boost only twice.
@@faisalwho Different means good effect? Wow i didn't know about using baby oil after all these years.
Is it ok to mix baby oil and paraffin oil? Thanks
does it last as long as an actual booster? if it does, then its great since its so cheap
Thanks for this video! Do you know how many layers to boost regular Hurricane 3 (not neo)?
I think it still the same :) 2 or 3 layers will OK :)
How long did you wait before gluing? 8 hours after 2nd layer, the baby oil is not dry.
EDIT: The sponge needed 24 hours to dry after the 2nd layer. The sponge should be totally dry before gluing. If you touch the sponge with your finger, there should be zero oil on your finger.
At least 1 day with thin layer. Thick layer 2 days 48 hours
Please tell me if u have to remove the facotey glue to boost I see some people do it and some people not please someone tell me
Can we use olive oil for booster?
My hurricane 3 feels dead. the spin was there but the hit was too slow. I use waldner senso carbon. Should I do this boosting?
Use haifu seamoon booster. Make sure you have one layer of glue first then apply booster. Let the booster soak into the sponge for a day. Apply last layer of glue on rubber and blade.
Will it work with rxton 5 and 3?
HI thanks for the video. Can I do this on Palio AK47 AK-47 AK 47 YELLOW Matt Pips-in table tennis pingpong rubber 2.2mm H42-44?
Not recommended for tensor rubber.
@@MLFMTableTennis Thank you. I am not a table tennis person but i am repairing a bat for my son. So i bought the Pailo AK-47. Thank you for your advise.
Yes, most Chinese sponge works fine.
yes, but only if you are wearing red socks
Hi, what is the boosting effect on regular H3 instead of Neo H3?? is it similar?
It says neo on the packaging
That wasn't the question, cornflake.
Boosting regular H3 should have similar effects.
It will work with hurricane8 ?
The ittf banned the frictionless pips. And those rubbers were treated to be smooth and glassy. Results were weird wobbly balls and blocking was lethal. I really enjoyed playing with my frik lp although it took ages to master it. I think it's all part of the fun. The equipment business must be worth a mint, and the ittf seem to have the upper hand and control of what they want. I say who cares if people experiment it's all part of the fun... But I also like the idea of everyone playing the same equipment so everyone is on the same level field. Ie the world ping pong championship played with sandpaper for example. And the hardbat era was the same. No one could argue about having a better bat. One level playing field. Only skill and pure grit would win the day Great.....!!
How You change lp for flp? I am Just put lp to uv lamp for 50h, and pips has been Little less tacky. Have u every tried Matt varnish?
Boring
How do you cook the pips and treat it so it becomes frictionless? What do you put on it? I heard about it before, there is something you can put on it to make it frictionless.
As a kid, I also remembered my friends putting some liquid on inverted rubbers and then sealing it with a plastic sheet. After you remove the plastic sheet a week later (similar to the plastic sheet that is on new tacky rubbers), the rubber becomes shiny, and it has increased grip. I can't remember what it was they put on it. Would appreciate it if anyone knows, because it drives me nuts for decades that I forgot what it was.
@@DaigoParryI treid to cover the pinples with speed glue for fun once. It takes long but the result was worth it. Played it at my club and people were going insane 😂
Does it pass the blade test?
For example, if I have one Dignics 05, what will be the effect on that rubber? when boosted with baby oil?
Dignics 05 is not a good rubber for using Baby Oil.
just use on tacky rubber bro :D
Don't try it on Japanese or big bubbles tensor sponge, it will damage them.
The ball will fly to the moon if you hit it with a boosted D05
@@wh2681 No, it will merely defoam your t05, as it is already factory boosted by default.
Can anyone tell me how long you had to boost the rubber again? So it keep on expand each time you boost it. You had to cut off the excess. Does the rubber will getting smaller and smaller?
He stated 2-3 months. The effect usually doesn't wear off completely but more like 80%. If you want to boost the rubber again I suggest using slightly less oil than before. And also, the sponge doesn't expand infinitely but dries up a little
I used h3 neo on dhs pg-9 blade without treating anything on its sponge. But it was already soft for my forehand. But I am using this rubber on my backhand very effectively.I tried also nittaku pro orange sponge, which is a bit harder and more spinny . But I found it very heavy. I am searching a forehand rubber which should be hard, tacky but not so heavy. I like third ball attack and my playing is killer spinny quick shots just over the table. PLEASE HELP???
Battle 2 provincial blue sponge
Battle 2 prov. Blue Sponge is great for this, but I would still recommend booster. Battle 2 is more focused on 3rd ball attack and speed, DHS is more focused on looping. The differences are not very big but are there
I saw another videos, that first they apply glue then booster and aftwr all again glue.. . but you applied direct the oil to the rubber... Do you know the difference?
Adding glue layers means you're adding more speed to the rubber. But you'd be careful because you may lose control
Can I use peanut oil instead?
Do you have to get rid of this preglue layer?? It s the first time I see this! Sorry, for my maybe silly question. I m just back to table tennis after some year. Try to understand the new material development.
I was wondering the same thing of that sheet needs to be removed before you glue the rubber on to your racket without a booster.
Neo versions are factory tuned. Glue on the sponge locks the booster inside. If you want extra boosting you tear the glue layer and reboost. You can use without boosting but it is very slow, you have to use more physical strength to increase speed. And it can cause loosing position in fast games.
Want to ask. Can we boost short pimple rubber?
Hello it is the same process for the second boost? I mean quit the adhesive and 2 layers of oil? Thanks
No. For the second boost you have to use your left hand when putting oil onto the sponge.
For second boost - I have used one application only. With one layer you can bost it more frequently/ shorter periods.
How much mm does boosting with baby oil add?
i used parafin oil
How many degree will be reduce after this process? Should I apply this on H3 Neo 39 Hardness?
Maybe like 1 degree but hurricane is still very hard
cho mik xin link mua baby oil
I'm going to try Mopiko.
Hii,, bro,
does this baby oil affect the hardness of the sponge?
It does. The sponge become approximately 2 degrees softer
Commercial version or privincial???
Can we do this on hurricane 8?
Try on tacky rubber bro
Can a dryer be used to speed up the process?
No
Is the using baby oil illegal for boosting rubber in table tennis rule?
Admin ơi có thể nhập và làm giúp Em mặt này được không ạ.
Cách làm cực đơn giản, bạn có thể tìm mua trên mạng và tự làm tại nhà nha
Это масло за место бустера ?
Can we tune every rubber with this method, or just harricon neo3 ???
you can do it on every rubber, but it´s better to do only in chinese rubbers because of their hardness
@@danielosoriovaldebenito3126 thank you for your answer
Do I have to the same in mark V?
Yes you can. I made it. Not too much different and final result is ''I'll kill you if you touch to my daughter's baby oil'' , my wife shouted 😁😁
Hey, this is for New rubber only or i can out it on 2 month rubber? What about put it on yinhe jupiter 2?
jupiter 2 is manufactory boosted, unless the boost faded. You don't need to do that.
Jupiter II is fast enough bro. Put in on flex blade and it will be amazing
ini dhs prov orange spon ya?deg brp?
What brand of glue are you using?
this is baby oils, bro. not glue :D
'bro" I'm referring to the glue that you are using in 3:48, not the baby oil to boost the rubber @@MLFMTableTennis
@@neeklia table tennis glue.
Hello there...I have applied baby oil exactly the same way you have shown to my H3 Neo commercial version but now after the application I am not being able to paste it in the blade as it has become oily and slippery..the glue doesn't sticks to the rubber..what should i do now?
throw away
maybe you hav added to much oil, you need to 'unfat' the sponege surface - experiment at not used part of sponge.
@@TableTennis-Man This Comment is So funny 😂
The sponge needs to be 100% dry before gluing. The 8 hours show in the video is usually not enough. It can take 24-48 hours depending on your environment.
Baby oil with Thai language.Are you in Thailand?
hi , i boosted yinhe moon pro like you did. but after 2 months of play there become a bounce on the middle of the rubber. Did you experimented this? and is there ay solution to avaoid from a bounce on the rubber?
Oh, i'm so sorry for that but that's the side effect of this ...
what would be the problem with taht? dont you needed more bounce effect? I dont get it, please expleain, sorry. Cheers
mid part evaporates the longer time, you need to boost sponge again, try to add less oil in the middle
How long does the effects last for?
he said 2-3 months
Does olive oil work
Can we use Vaseline?
boleh pakai speed glue?
while waiting the oil to dry can you make it dry faster while using hairdryer?
Best not to cuz the heat may effect the rubbers
This is my rubber
Which version of h3 neo is? Provincial?
Market version.
@@MLFMTableTennis Why? Isn't prov. suppose to have less variation?
@@kanck7909 cheaper
What is the effect on the Chinese rubber when boosted with baby oil? And how long the effect last?
The effect are more kontrol and speed
softer and bouncer. 2-3 month for 1 boost/tune bro :D
@@MLFMTableTennis do you just pull if off from your blade and boost it again than?
@@MLFMTableTennis i think i was wrong that applied baby oil to the rubber, according to the video you applied the baby oil on the sponge not on the rubber?
it smells like a baby
i saw that you applied baby oil on the sponge not on the rubber?how if im only applied baby oil on the rubber not on the sponge it is same result?
Yes its the same result. Some people are not even taking rubber from the original packaging
How long does the boosted effect stay?
he said 2-3 months
6-8 weeks
Saya pingin tau bahan booster yang mahal kaya dianchi, falco loong apa ya? Apa bedanya dengan pakai baby oil yg murah. Apa epeknya juga sama? Ada yg bisa menjelaskan?
I usually do this baby oil boosting specialy with the tacky rubbers. I apply oil onto the sponge and then I let it dry for 1 day. I repeat this for 2-3 times more, depending on the hardness of the sponge. The shape of the rubber is becoming cylindrical with the sponge at the outer surface. Also the total surface of the rubber is getting larger.
How long does the baby oil boosting effect last? A month or 2?
Can I do it with a Rubber when I have already glued the rubber one time without boosting?
What about weight of rubber ?
Simply rheine, from others I have heard it lasts around 2 months.
Wilcorian, yes I have done it. First you take the glue out from the sponge (using a ball) and then you boost with oil like mlfm in this video did.
Is this a normal/commercial version?
^
you can also put the entire rubber in a deepfrier for about 15 minutes on low temperature (50° Celsius) it gets more MUCH more bouncy and grippy
I tried it as well, it really gives that crispiness I'm looking for thanks
Excuse me, how long did it take you to remove the factory glue?
How durable this baby oil?
How long time our rocket is tuned, for two weeks?
2 month 😁
How to boost again?
@@scottortega4668 take off rubber,take off glue by adding more glue if needed and the booster will follow the glue removal then simply repeat the boosting process again
The Baby Oil it's VOC free?
No, babies love VOC, it cannot be VOC free.
Bro can I use olive oil
yes, its better with olive oil, tastes better, easier to chew.
1 layer = 8 hours or 8 days to wait coach ?
Hours.
thanks a lot
8 weeks of course
8 years best. dont be eager
Can i apply this oil to my provincial rubber blue sponge? Give the answer.
Did you find the answer? I think yes but it may need lots more than the orange and neo ones that have some boost already
@@18yearsoldnot tq
Nice but, the booster falco long booster work 3 months,how much time work this booster?
and costs 30x more
Hi,how long does this effect last?
2 to 3 months but it’s start to get slower from time to time
Testing video pls
Check our playlist bro
If wanna have bouncier rubber, then why not just pick soft rubber? Is that different?
because of the insane spin of the hurricane 3 neo
soft rubber won't have so much spin bro :D H3 Neo have TACKY surface so even a little softer, it still produce CRAZY spin :D
@@MLFMTableTennis no I mean how about h3 neo with soft sponge from factory? Or dhs not giving that option?
Camvret kampret it is not an option
according to emratthich, the difference is boosting stretches the top sheet.
Where are you from?
He is from Vietnam
Can you show the video of real match playing with this one
Boosting is not allowed on offical matches.
@@SkepticalCaveman why?
@@21.yagiprayogo79 Because it's against the rules.
@@LittleMuscledBeast36 So you're argument is: it's ok as long you don't get caught? Really? Unbelievable!
@@LittleMuscledBeast36 It's not a grey area. In the 80's a lot of athletes took steroids, but didn't get caught, they are still cheaters. Just because you can get away with it doesn't make it right. They should find better methods to catch the cheaters.
Can it work on every rubber
Pls don't try on non tacky rubbers.
Works on hard Chinese sponges.. if not hard it becomes too dead and mushy
unfortunately, it cant. U can do this on Chinese rubber which is tacky rubber!!! If you do with another rubber, i'm not sure what wil happen bro :(
Only mineral oil work?
No, there are so many thing else bro
you can use a tooth paste as well.
润滑油？？？
Shouldn't we peel the plastic on the rubber before glueing it to the blade?
RamZ Harry no you peel it after! It protects the surface
@@roman2374 not if you're boosting. If you're boosting you want to take it off between the first and second layer of boost allowing the rubber to "dome" even more.
How many times can you boost the rubber?
depend on your rubber. May be 2-3 times:D
@@MLFMTableTennis how about for DHS H3 commerical?
until you run out of oil from your bottle
@@MLFMTableTennis Because after 2-3 times the rubber is completely destroyed right?
Sewing machine lubricant is much better.
should I put a layer of glue first or just boost it right away
이진민 boost right away. If you first have glue the oil can’t reach the sponge
Hey, I've made an experiment.. I mix a baby oil with pure petroleum jelly and a couple drops of lemon.. I use petroleum jelly since it contain parafin & mineral oil to get more effect and gain a viscosity of a baby oil.. In the end, a texture is just like Seamoon booster.. IDK with a lemon, but a Seamoon Booster National Yellow had a lemonish smell on it, so I tried put a lemon in a mixture.. I surprised with a result when I try to boost my rubber with this mixture, just put 1 layer and my rubber start to curl like I use 1 layer of seamoon booster standard version.. After 3 layer of boosting I use the rubber to play and I feels like my rubber had booster with Haifu Seamoon.. The mixture is Baby Oil/Mineral oil 80ml, Petroleum jelly 10ml, and lemon 10ml..
What does your experiment do to the rubber's performance?
@@allethre it's similar to boost with baby oil but I feel it slightly better.. Just a little bit.. Maybe because the lemon or anything else, I don't really know.. But with just a baby oil it takes 4-5 layer to curl the rubber.. With this, it takes just 3 layers.. So, I think the effect is better than just with a baby oil.. Well, my rubber still has the effect, it's 4 months since I boosted my rubber.. I don't recommend it, but if you wanna try, do with your own risk.. Maybe next time I'll use mineral oil with high viscosity or even a brake fluid instead mixing a petroleum jelly with low viscosity mineral oils..
@@rodffofficial7717 any update on your experiment?
This sounds very interesting. 🧐 About to boost h3’s for the first time. Any new findings?
Can i do this trick on tenergy 05 fx and what exactly mean boosting what does it give to us
Please dont, ten 05 fx is too soft for this trick
@@MLFMTableTennis ok thank you can i do it for rakza 9?
@@quenzo332 Any Euro rubber like Rakza9 or RakzaX are tensor rubbers. Boosting has very different effects on tensor rubbers but on Chinese rubbers it will be consistent.
Also Rakza9 is the fastest Rakza rubber out there. Don't even try to boost it ! :-D
6:04 thats why i hate tacky rubbers because they get dirty easily
I used baby oil. Effect was very bad 😑
That is real?
tip : remove plastic cover from topsheet so it can dome freely. Buy an actual tabletennis boostter, works much better. Use a bit more, the rubber still looks the same, a good boosted H3 should have the glossy shine where you can see the pips.
Hmm...all of my H3 Neos have a dull, cloudy looking topsheet after boosting with Haifu seamoon or Haifu National Yellow. I don't recall if this is immediate or if it's after some time. I would call it a loss of tackiness, while others may call it dead, but it certainly performs very well and is still super spinny. It just won't do the ball pickup test anymore.
And to be honest, I'm beginning to think that the shiny tackiness is overrated, though it used to be all i cared about. It can be good for service, but we're better off using the sponge for spin, as tackiness is fleeting. I feel like bad habits can be formed when relying too much on tacky rubber, and not letting the ball sink into the sponge. Anyway, love to hear your thoughts.
Oh yeah, i agree on removing the plastic sheet AFTER applying booster, and replace it prior to applying additional coats, then remove it again while booster is curing. The reason is the booster will ruin the appearance of your topsheet if it gets directly on the rubber surface, which is easy to do. No big deal, mostly cosmetic but annoying.
And for the others wondering, removing the plastic helps the curing process because air and gas exchange can happen on both sides, not just the sponge side, helping the booster to do its job faster and more consistently.
You applied mineral oil on the side that you will glue on to your blade, should I tune the actual rubber surface that will contact the ball
Mineral oil no no no
Yes, bro! Only specialized booster!
How much is this rubber degree ??
On the shore a scale its around 40 degrees. On the shore o scale its around 50 degrees
Most European brands use the shore o scale and most Chinese and Japanese brands use the shore a scale
Can baby oil put on front face of rubber to make rubber to be better sticky conditon?
Just use bat cleaner for that, every time just before you play - that's what I do
How long will the effect lasts b4 needing to reboost?
referring to one of his answers to the same question 2-3 months if im right
No booster will give a peek effect for 2 months remember my friend i try many falco, haifu, baby oil, paraffin. But more often cheap paraffin 3 layers. But extreme elastic effect only last to 6-7 days up to 3 weeks totally dead. Paraffin does make rubber more elastic than baby oil for sure because for more VOC gas that's make sponge elastic. Baby does works better for some rubber but remember not all Chinese rubber sponges boost the same they vary rubber to rubber.
A little bit wrong, in order to make the sponge more durable, you should apply a thin layer of glue & let it dry first before adding oil.
There is no “wrong”. You can do it either ways
Is this legal?
I can use this oil on tensor rubber ?
do this tip on hard rubber bro :D
@@MLFMTableTennis I would try this on Rasanter r47
FunnyRockMan idk if it’s rly usefull. Chinese rubbers as the H3 Neo are very slow that’s why people boost ‘em. But a european rubber as the R47 dont rly need to be boosted (that’s my opinion ofc)
@@chaussonnneg-650 today I also think the same like y, two days ago I try boosted a used R47 and In my opinion I lose Control