Is the ORIGINAL Mega Man X Collection Still Worth Playing?
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- čas přidán 26. 11. 2020
- Before we get to Sonic 06, I am in the mood to do a quick video on Mega Man! Let's revisit the All Inclusive Mega Man X Retrospective with an in depth look at the Mega Man X Collection for the Playstation 2 and the Nintendo GameCube!
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NOW the _All-Inclusive Mega Man X Retrospective_ is complete.
Good on you, J 👍
And then Mega Man X9 came out.
Don’t know why J didn’t pin this comment since your the one that caused him to make this video. Eh, doesn’t matter.
U all mean mega man x dive it's out on Android now
That X2 title screen screw up is hilarious
I laughed too. That's awful.
As this collection was my first experience with the first 3 games, i always thought that was just like it was in the original, but after i had played the original X2 and the XLC versions now i can't stop laughing at that screw up, and how naive i was to go "eh, it was 1994 give them a break" lol.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
no really, HOW did that make it past testing???? LMAOO
Hola x
That Megaman X collection commercial is giving me strong "you wouldn't steal a car" ad vibes.
🤣🤣
You won't download a car.
Out of curiosity will you be covering any Sonic compilations? I’d love to hear you talk about the DS classic collection
Childhood right there
@@zemshea Sonic Gems Collection was also on PS2, but that version was only released in Japan and Europe.
Playing X Collection on PS2 on my Sony PVM CRT. Man, it's just pristine. Plus don't have to worry about the resolution change with using something like an OSSC. Only bummer about it is that the sound is off in several places. The worst offender being X no longer saying "Hadouken!" in X1.
@@aweigh1010 Eh. Not really. If you don't like scanlines, then sure. I've played it with PCSX2 before when I went and backed up my PS1/PS2 collection. The game was made for 240p so it's not like you're gaining any detail from emulating it at higher res. X7 and X8 are totally different stories though. Those look vastly superior emulated than running on my PVM with real hardware.
@@DrazenX195 don't you notice flicker on the PS2 versus the SNES?
@@akilluminati47 Nah. There's no flicker playing the games on a PS2 and CRT since they render at 240p. There is a bit of flicker in the menus though because those render at 480i.
I remember mmx collection on the gc. Don't have it anymore but it was a fun experience
I spent $35 ($38 w/ shipping) for the GameCube versoin in 2013 and I also had fun with it. I played it with a Logitech PS2 controller connected to a controller converter to use my PS2 controller on my GameCube. :) But ever since I got the X Legacy Collections 1 & 2 for my Switch, other than to play Mega Man Battle & Chase (which I didn't really like too much), I don't really have a reason to go back to the original MMX Collection.
Can't go wrong with J and Megaman X
Of course not. Same goes for other games like Sly Cooper and Sonic as well as the DCAU.
I finally got my hands on a copy for this collection for my birthday...
a month before the X Legacy was first revealed
I know that feeling. I bought Mega Man 7 on the 3ds eshop to go with my downloaded version of the Mega Man Legacy Collection on 3ds, thinking that, at this point, this is the only way I’m ever going to get to play this game. Mega Man Legacy Collection 1 + 2 was announced for release on the Nintendo Switch the day after. I was sad.
damn
This was the first Mega Man game I ever played. Was in the store for Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, and saw the game, walked out with both. The games were way too hard for me at the time, but I did get fun out of it, with X1 and 4 emerging as my favorites.
Plus, lest we forget the best reason to own the PS2 version. Duff McWhalen.
Honestly, this collection would be looked upon more fondly if the proposed content for it hadn't been moved over to the Maverick Hunter series of remakes Inafune had proposed for X1-X6.
Which crashed and burned following the first one. Nice going Inafune.
Yeah, hearing they had skeletonized this collection for MHX really sunk my enthusiasm for both of them.
I just looked at the planned changes and we got robbed hard. Redubs, retranslations, remixed soundtracks, even fixing one of Zero's moves in X6...
they had a golden opportunity to fix that mistake with the legacy collection and didn't care to do it, such a shame.
@@MechanicalRabbits Frankly, I would have been happy if they'd just let us have both SNES and PS1 versions of X3 on one collection.
But at least they fixed the script errors the PS2 collection put in there, like Sigma asking X: "why you done this to us" and X saying "Damn! It's dead end."
And we act like the Mighty no 9 thing was a shock. Just look at that stupid MHX decision
This was my first exposure to the X series, and I loved every second. Has less input delay than the Legacy collections too, which is crazy.
Too bad it has other issues, instead.
Also, I have finished X1 and X2 on XLC, didn't really notice the delay.
@@ChiefMedicPururu It was actually super noticeable on my first run through, as I had only beaten the game through emulation and the X Collection. Pretty bad, haha.
How do you even play this on pc tho? It seems its for ps2. Yea i know i could download the snes emulator but i like having everything on steam or on another plataform so i can download the game safely from anywhere and have my save files on cloud
Not all X games are ports since if you open the disc on your PC you will find 2 files on folders MX1 and MX2 where there are 2 encrypted files that match the size of a snes rom. Not to mention two big wav files for audio. This is a trick that Digital Eclipse did back them to emulate games at full speed. They used emulation but did not emulate the sound instead played the sound from a wav file. This is exactly Midway did with Mortal Kombat 2 on Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks is a emulated MK2 because you can compare in a Hex editor with a original arcade rom and partially matches.
The positives I can think of are the original opening songs and having the imo superior X3 version. Aside from that, the collection has a little to offer compared to other classic compilations. Sucks to admit because X Collection was how I got to play the Megaman X games for the first time and holds a lot of value for me.
Yeah, that's what I remember about X3. A little disappointed that didn't carry to PS4, or the X rom that dropped "Damn!" in English. Oh well, can't have it all. ;)
I actually prefer this over the legacy collection
Meh, Legacy Collection is still better, IMO.
Borders in the Saturn version of X3 are there to avoid stretching the image and distorting it. The Saturn has a minimum resolution (320x224) that is higher than the resolution of the SNES (256x224). The Playstation's minimum resolution is the same as the SNES.
Am I the only one who actually really loved Battle & Chase? I probably played that game more than any of the X games on the collection, haha. Great video J.
Nice to finally see another mega man review
Awesome video! The guide videos were not my thing as I tend to look up what I need on google, but all your stuff is really high quality. So I think that one was all just a matter of preference. :) I forgot about all the tweaks with the collections.
There's a huge flaw with X6 on the Collection that you didn't bring up. All of the cutscene voice acting was completely removed, making X6's cutscenes almost completely silent, however the vocal themes for the opening and ending are still intact.
I'll be surprised if he even played X6 to notice it lol
The plan was for them to re-record and retranslate the dialogue. However it was taken out in the 11th hour out of fear of making Maverick Hunter X6 less special (which of course was never made)
It wasn’t completely removed, it was removed by default. But you can turn it back on in X6’s options menu. I’ve gotten in too much hot water from that aspect of X6 to ever be worth mentioning again.
@@JsReviews The option to turn voices on and off is not in the GameCube version's option menu, and the voices are disabled. Idk if the PS2 version has the same problem.
@@scrubbadubbins4895 Perhaps it was cut from the Gamecube version due to storage limitations.
The only serious advantages the old one has to me is that it includes the PS1 version of X3 and the better performance.
Yeah same hear. Other than that, yeah I will just stick to the legacy collection.
I don't like X3's PS1 soundtrack, so I'm glad the X Legacy Collection includes the SNES version instead. But it's a matter of personal taste anyway.
Though, if you have the MMXLC on Steam, you might be able to edit the sound files to use the PS1 soundtrack.
@@jruler93 it’s a SNES emulation, so it’s impossible to replace
My only issue with the Collection is using the PSX version of Megaman X3, solely for the fact that the music is off in my opinion. MMX3 had the best music of the original trilogy, in my opinion, and hearing the Collection version which sound more like smooth jazz is just...yuck.
This collection was my first exposure to megaman and one of the first games I’ve ever owned. Lots of nostalgia
I loved your mmx guides you recently made. I hope you reconsider and finish the series
While I grew up with Megaman X, X3 and X4 on original hardware, the other games in the series I've pretty much completely played on GameCube via this collection, and yes, I re-completed all of them except X5 and X6 xD
I never had any problem pulling off difficult jumps or tricks with a GameCube controller, but then again, I had beaten every Sonic game with that controller by that point, so I guess I was used to it.
I do remember panicking when I put the disc in my Wii (hooked up with component), thinking it had broken when I got a black screen trying to load the game, fortunately, a quick search later and I found out my TV just doesn't display 240p through component
It's been 3 Years and I'm still waiting and hyped for the Mega Man Classic Series retrospective.
The trailer for the game looks like something I’d make on iMovie in like 13 minutes
Real talk though, ロックマン games were marketed Very poorly in the US explaining why some games like the zero games never got the love it deserved
If you’re still holding onto an old CRT TV for retro gaming, this collection is also still worth having because of how this version outputs the games in 240p, with those old school, real scan lines. (On the other hand, like the video mentions, some modern TVs will also refuse to display the games in the collection at all for this reason, unless you use some upscaling method.)
Lucky me, I already own the mega man x collection.
I still own the original collection on the GameCube 😁
Same here.
Me too
That back ground music is clean!!
Looking forward to what you have to say about the Dark Slayer himself.
I think it's really cool that the PS2 version uses the *exacct* video modes for each game, since the PS2 nativley supports all those resolutions. In fact, I think other than one or two Sega Ages releases, it's one of the only games to use the system's 256x224 video mode.
Awesome Video Can You Make Next The History of Mega Man Games for PC
It’s worth mentioning that the X Collection version of Mega Man X5 determines the outcome of the Cannon/Shuttle
differently. Maybe that’s why it always work for me.
This being my first experience with X1-X3 i gotta say, i always find something lacking when i'm playing the versions with the framerate issues the original hardware had, i just got used to how the games run in this collection because i had nothing better to do in 2013 than to play this all day, every day, and i go back to this from time to time even if i have the XLC already.
Yeah I'm thinking of getting this version for my PS2 because I won't have any chugging when playing through X2
where can I watch that marathon video LOL
it looks so fun to watch
That charging noise man, made me regret wearing headphones while watching this.
I got this collection for christmas 4 years ago, mainly because I didn't want to wait for the legacy collection to come out.
Starting this video with a snow level is too fitting.
When J releases a new video: 12:46
The title should of been called, “J Rambles for 13 minutes about the screen resolution for mega man anniversary collection.”
@Slow Down in the Legacy collections. There is an option for CPU speed that let's you chose original hardware performance with slow down as it would have played, and a Turbo option that tries to keep the games at a stable FPS.
I've never had a single problem with component video supporting 240p, at least on my Wii.
Same here actually, and I am playing on a 4K tv as well *it does support the normal cable outputs, though I went for 480P, not to mention also i am curious to see of playing in 480P makes a difference, in some cases they do actually 🙂 at least wii games anyways*
Man, the X Collection. It was thanks to this that I finally got a chance to play X3 and X5 for myself.
I'll admit, the Battle and Chase version we got through it was a bit gutted, as there was supposed to be ongoing race commentary, and each character's ending was supposed to have art alongside its text.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss
I was using those guide videos for my first playthroughs. Shame they're not for everyone. Looking forward to other upcoming content though. Particularly the super hero movies retrospective.
re 240p talk at 10:20: 240p support is heavily variable based on manufacturers. My 2019 Samsung Q50r has no problem doing 240p over component for instance.
Also re OSSC: the retrotink and its variants is a competent line doubler (if you're not as much of a power user) and has the bonus of doing resolution switching much faster (less than a second)
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that this collection also fixed the awful translation from Mega Man X6 so that means no typos and mistakes on the dialogues. However, the Japanese voice acting is removed though.
Was it kept in X Legacy Collection?
@@ChiefMedicPururu Strangely, the X Legacy Collection version is the original PS1 versions, complete with the Japanese voices and the awful translations.
@@apollorock3r244 ...I've checked and there was no such thing as a correction for X6 in X Collection, it's the same text as the XLC version.
Rechecked, and no, it's the same text as on PS1.
Still hoping for another marathon race, love both of the ones you did. Just maybe stop at 4 or 5...
I remember renting this in like 2006 from blockbuster and I found it on GameCube in like 2015-16. Glad I snagged it?
The X collection is a better collection than the XLC's imo, yes even the Gamecube version
not the GameCube one tho
@@justfloofy4639 i own the gamecube one. It runs fine and better than the XLC ones.
Graphically it's inferior but that's kind of expected.
@@AmineSamus I get were your coming from but XLC's visual look clean and more polished compared to the GameCube collection imo. Just look at the comparison between X4 on XLC and GameCube.
Yo that MMX collection trailer was DOPE what do you mean lol
Still freaking weird that megaman collection 2 doesn't have megaman and bass .
I have both the new Legacy Collection on Switch, and this collection on PS2, and I agree - this collection is better than the Switch one, even if it lacks X7 and X8. Having playing X1 on the original SNES, SNES Classic, PS2 Collection, and Switch Legacy Collection, the PS2 version is actually my favorite of that too, and it's also the only version I'm aware of that has altered dialogue in the beginning of the game with Zero saying "damn".
What was the hot shots at xlc did you change your mind on it
It's possible that what you were experiencing with the GameCube version was forced 480i scaling, which added unnecessary blurring and interlacing to the image, while the PS2 version runs in the native 240p resolution of the original games.
I still think you should do guide videos for the other games in the series, for people who need an easy guide to get through them.
It’s still not complete yet. You have to review Rockman X Dive
You totally recorded this like forever ago didn't you????? Why did I think of megaman and you post this ten minutes later?
The answer is no, in my opinion. The only plus I can think of is that X6 in the original collection keeps the J-rock from the Japanese version and the Battle and Chase game.
I wish the modern one had save states for x1-x3 sigma stages lol
Such a great series.
I love, and far prefer the original x collection. It even has the megaman mario kart knock off.
Also it connected to the megaman classic collection and let me use updated music for classic games.
Funny story, I accidentally got this original MMX collection sent to me instead. I was intending to get MMX: Command Mission.
Probably a lucky accident.
I’m curious if you redid your Legacy Collection video knowing what you do today would you change anything?
This was the way I played X2-5 (didn't bother booting up 6 lol) because I was able to find a copy for 10 dollars and hey, thats a pretty good deal.
This game is my childhood
I think I'll need to find a copy of this or emulate out of sheer curiosity. Sad thing is, I saw about five copies of this at my local Wal-Mart at one point but I didn't have a GameCube until two years later (2008ish). I still have next to no GC games and this could have kicked off my collection at a mere $30! But no, instead I chose to get Dark Sector on 360 that was sitting on that same shelf, and then didn't come close to completing that glorious masterpiece until I bought the PC version (But hey, Dark Sector left quite an impression, I just drowned in content at the time because this was when I started building my physical collection of PS2 and 360 games.). Ah, what life could have been...
so control wise wouldn't it be better if you used the hori gamecube controller?
I guess this is proof I’m not a nerd.....I didn’t understand most of what you were saying when you got into technical specs.
But I have the ps2 with the anniversary collection...so I’m fine
I deleted my initial comment. I thought you were refering to the X legacy collection 1&2.
TL;DR for this video, the answer is a big fat *no*
Gamecube is a no. PS2 is a yes if you can’t run the games optimally on your computer
Idk. For me, I have no reason to go back to the old collection now that we have 2 collections with every game in it.
DUFF MCWHALEN
Megaman X3 ps1 soundtracks.
Are you gonna be covering the Mega Man Battle Network and Starforce games at all?
Heh, you missed a few minor differences between this version and the newer collection. In THIS collection X randomly said damn after Vile left...I think they were going to at one point in time revise the entire script but can it because of the remake of X. Also, I think X6 also had its original song while they lost the original song in the newer collection, and had much inferior songs in X6. Also, I think the first collection took out all the voice acting in 6, but the newer one brought the voice acting back. Well...does not change much but still lol.
thanks for the video
Have you ever thought about covering the Battle Network and Starforce Series?
Also, why are you skipping Sonic Rush and going straight to ‘06? I was curious as to what your thoughts were on the 2 DS games. Will they be done together at a later date?
J says he has no interest in the other continuity because “i have no interest in playing games people will probably get mad it me for not liking”. I think Sonic Chronicles tainted his views on RPGs
As for Sonic rush he plans to cover it after colors with rush adventure and colors ds
@@skibot9974 Oh, thanks!
@@skibot9974 I thought he would do the Rush games after Black Knight.
The best way to describe this collection is technically better, but practically not. If you want the most ideal way to play X1-6 then this is it but for most people it’s definitely easier to get the XLCs as they’re on modern platforms and are still entirely playable versions
I did actually enjoy the "J's Ways of Mega Man X" lolz but I know the youtube way of it was probably not worth it. Maybe livestream?
As you use alot of music from it in your vids will you ever cover the 8 Ace attorney games 😍
This was the first time I got to play X3 and I'll always love this game for that. I played the crap out of this collection on PS2
I love the MMX Collection on the GameCube.
I can't wait for the battle network collection for pc. I know I could just emulate them right now and skip the wait but... idk..
I have been watching this guys sonic vids a lot I am not even a sonic fan lol.
Wow. We arrived at that conclusion for VASTLY different reasons. O_O
My most favorite x games are 4 and 5
9:21
I count 5 different notes missing in title screen for x2, and the charge shot is late on fire...
How do you screw that up? Just play the intro demo and fix it with similar instruments
Oh man, im strugling to “Hear” the missing notes :/
X2 is my favorite mega man game; x, my favorite soundtrack in the series🔘
When will the superhero history part 4 video be released?
Just a question
Have you tried the Tweaked X6 Rom Hack?
Just a heads up, if you're getting this collection, keep in mind that this was ONLY released in North America. Japan and Europe didn't get this. So make sure you have an American PS2 or GC when getting these.
Absolutely because the Collection has the superior version of X3 which runs the better soundtrack and has animated boss intros.
Can you do a spectacular Spiderman review soon I want to know your opinion?
That black screen problem isn’t exclusive to the PS2 version. I tried playing the GameCube version once and the same thing happened. It only showed the menu.
js I have an idea megaman legacy collection 3 all 5 gameboy and games and wily wars and soccer and battle and chase and x legacy collection 3 both xtreme Maverick hunter x and command mission what do you think?
12:35 I bet if you skipped to X6 you’d have a spike in viewership
I still play the X series. Lol. I love it.
I still have mines so yes.
What do you think about megaman legends?
The completion guides were cool tho. At least finish the SNES games just for completion's sake. They're really nice and ur good at explaining stuff. Please consider it. 🦊
1:07 i must have beat that game a dozen times but i didnt know you could pallet swap zero in X4, or is that only in the collection?
You can input a code on the character select screen to get Black Zero on all versions of the game. Doesn’t change any stats, but it looks sick.
Yeah. And that wasn't even collection footage, that was a clip from the 2016 X4 Review, as evidenced by the border surrounding.