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- In the late 1990s, a man named Gene Ray creates a baffling new theory delivered through an unintentionally humorous website. But when people start sharing it as a joke, things go horribly awry.
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The punchline to this is the fact that a cube has 8 corners
What about the inside?
@@danielmurphy9204 It would be the same if you're looking from the inside of the cube. But you can say 16 total if you ignore the corners are the same.
I think he looked at it as a room; a room is often said to have 4 corners.
And 6 sides lol
time square..... he wanted the time square
You can't disprove a theory if no one can understand it. Smart
*taps forehead*
It's more brilliant than that: Time Cube is essentially a perspective, not a statement of fact. And you can't disprove a perspective exists.
that's deep, man...
His theory made more sense than an average Game Theory episode, so I'll give him that much.
You also can't disprove a theory that's not a theory. Super smart.
As sad as this is, I'll never not lose my shit at Gene responding with "You're what?!" to the existence of biracial people
Same. Every time I watch this video I forget about that part, and it gets me EVERY time.
@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide ???????????????
@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide Wow what kind of frustrations are you repressing/imposing?
What's so weird about taking humor in a racist being so befuddled by biracial people? Why are you so ready to attack and insult when racism is part of the subject lol?
@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide take your meds
Lmao. The audacity of that person to be born out of 2 races
Say what you want about this guy and his theory, but the empty seat he wanted to label "Your God" at the MIT lecture is a fucking power move.
Metal as fuck
Cringe
@@Obeesius life is so much better when you stop cringing
@@Obeesius based you mean as your god has never appeared to you in person
I was here to screenshot the 666th thumbs up. Best moment of my life.
"i'm biracial"
"yOU ARE WHAT?!"
i lost my shit
"I'm Biracial"
ERROR: GENE RAY.EXE HAS CRASHED
That's why his name is Logic lol
I am actually curious how Biracial people fit into the Time Cube theory.
Likewise Dove, I am also curious about how Pacific Islanders, Hispanics, Aboriginal Australians, Arabs, Turks, Persians and Caucasus Peoples also fit within the Time Cube.
+DragonMastrNova It always irks me when someone has a really good question and it's never answered.
Gene Ray: I-
Cubehead: *Yeah*
it was really rude. i wasn't surprised that gene got mad.
yeah wtf that dude was weird
Yeah
@Oniplus Wrong. I know plenty of Aussies who do the "Yeah" thing as soon as anyone starts a sentence.
@@Skindoggiedog yeah
“God is cornered as a queer” in all caps, italicized, and underlined, is one of the funniest things I have ever seen and read
I find the blasphemy more sad than anything because he's sending himself to hell.
@@Noone-mo4dr no hes right
@@Noone-mo4dr low effort bait
@@Phoenix0F8 true, but don't you think we're becoming desensitized to reality through irony?
@@Noone-mo4dryou sound like a different flavor of the time cube guy rn
It's kinda sad, because it probably started out with just a quip that "Hey, it's midday here but midnight on the other side of the world, if you think about it, it's lie 2 days at once" and Gene probably thought it was world changing news.
That's often how delusions originate, as the kind of silly or speculative thoughts we randomly have, only they then take a life of their own.
A logical conclusion to this reasoning is that there are actually an infinite number of days on Earth happening simultaneously (assuming sunlight has infinitesimal width, which it doesn't but w/e). Or rather 6.378 x 10^41 days happening simultaneously, since that's the radius of the Earth in Planck lengths, and therefore the largest number of segments you can divide the equator into with each segment still having any sort of meaningful distance.
"Explanation" for this claim. You can take the full sphere of the Earth, and divide it into two equal sectors, one centered on wherever midday is, and the other centered on wherever midnight is. That gives you two simultaneous "days". You can instead divide the sphere into 4 equal sectors, centered on midday, midnight, sundown, and sunup, resulting in the time cubes 4 days. But why stop there? Why not consider each time zone (assume time zones are regularly spaced and actually make sense here) and it's +/- 12 hour counterpart as their own pair of sectors and day/anti-day pair, producing 24 simultaneous days? Why even stop there? Why not arbitrarily divide each time zone into smaller and smaller longitudinal slices, creating more and more sectors and days? Mathematically, you can do it infinitely, creating an infinite number of infinitesimal width sectors, and therefore an infinite number of days. In reality though, the Planck length is the smallest meaningful distance, and so the smallest meaningful width you can make these sectors. As such, there is a sort of hard limit imposed on the number of simultaneous days.
In other words, fuck the time cube, the time sphere is where it's at.
@@lorscarbonferrite6964 Sounds pretty South American to me
This guy just leaked the final level of Scientology
I can follow the plot of Scientology, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this story.
EXbob Scientology makes sense if you squint one eye and tilt your head. Time cube doesn’t make sense no matter how you look at it, even with LSD involved.
@@EXbobomb ofc your cant wrap your head around it. It's spherical while his theory is -you guessed it- quadratic with corners in its nature.
...My own shitposting confuses me to no end this time xD
I think even Scientology wants a decent distance to his bullshit..
@@yeenmachine206 that's because you need DMT to understand time cube
Missed opportunity to make this vid 44:44 long
4 4s
14 seconds cubed
Yes but surely you can see that 45:24 is meant to imply 45-24 which is 21. Obviously 21 is just 7x3. What is 7-3??? FOUR. If you can grasp this you will truly understand the majesty of the time cube.
Ya got 420 likes to ur comment ;)
@Kyle Hohn your dog is adorable asf
I love the excitement in his voice; "My father was a fish?! No, please, explain!"
like even though you know the guy's gonna say something crazy you want to hear it
A microbe-sperm fish, infact.
Imagine my shock when the convo did not instantly turn to cladistics...
@@BigBoobsMcGooIMAGINE MY SHOCK
Ray had a pretty big family, with children, grandchildren and even great-grandchildren apparently. He seemed to have had a rather fulfilling life and was probably loved until the end despite being a nutcase.
Richard, on the other hand, seemed to be just a really troubled person overall. His interactions with Ray were horribly awkward to watch. it's a shame what happened to him.
Maybe he wasn't crazy his whole life. It's at least possible to develop psychosis in your later years; if I'm not mistaken it can be a symptom of dementia.
@@marmotsrulepwned I'd buy it. Friend's uncle was a very friendly person up till he reached roughly 60 or 70 years. Guy quickly lost his marbles and was basically a different person. Sad shit that was.
@@chaosinc.382 he lost the marbles he wrote a book about
I remember watching Richard's program and was convinced it was satire. Talking about a 'cubeless conspiracy' delaying his flight, running up to the camera to talk about Steve Erwin and the Supreme Number 4...I thought he was into some serious Andy Kaufman method shit. But nope, he was genuine.
@@MelancoliaI That's what is odd about him. The videos are so obviously comedic in tone but he's simultaneously totally serious about the contents. It almost anticipates the kind of meta-ironic stuff we see today. Maybe it's an Australian thing, idk
Why does “Did you know that your father was a fish” sound so much like a line straight out of something like Monty Python
Literally. I can even imagine them saying it.
I mean, your mother was a hamster.
@@StarboyXL9 Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries.
oOh fishie fishie fishie fish...went, wherever I, did gOo.
@@MonkeyKex Eyyyy!
Someone remembers that fever dream from The Meaning of Life! 😂
"Universities are afraid to publicly debate Time Cube for fear of public embarrassment"
This is the single thing we can all agree this person got right.
It's honestly my 'favorite' criticism when certain groups complain about a crackpot idea not being supported by universities and science publications. Confirmation via exclusion and all that.
@M R The students organized the talk, not the faculty.
I'd be embarrassed if I gave lunatics a platform.
Then there's the news media, who give all kinds of scum the means to spread hate speech masquerading as free speech.
@@VaultTecc How so? The expectation is that adults act like adults. It's not the university's fault if a group of their students want to act like childish morons. It doesn't reflect on the education programs in the slightest.
@@VaultTecc Furthermore, all of these groups usually have a faculty advisor. But, that advisor is operates in a more "hands off" fashion. If the students misrepresented what the invited speaker was speaking about, it's not the advisor's fault. It's not hard to do. I've seen it done by some idiot fraternities. 🙄
I'm old enough to have been a programmer in Silicon Valley when Time Cube first appeared, and while I'm sure there were some who trolled Gene Ray the general attitude most people took with him was akin to how Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico was received in his era. There are certain times and places where the mad but harmless eccentric is embraced by the community and at least with regards to the MIT lecture those students weren't mocking him so much as celebrating an eccentric character who fearlessly challenged the established wisdom motivated by his deep certainty in the truth of his belief.
Gene Ray was for many the Don Quixote of the Internet.
Very well put this was exactly my thought
❤👏
"She.....was a HOOOOKER!"
A condition must interfere with normal life to be a disability, and it is therefore relative to what a normal life is. When curative measures aren't feasible, I'm surprised how vehemently opposed some people can be to just letting be. All people did by entertaining time cube (with healthy separation in their own minds between it and reality) was make a troubled person happy, and I think we ought to look at these cases as success stories. Not everybody can be saved, but everybody can be helped.
His views were racist and homophobic, so not sure how "harmless" he was.
The aussie guy gets more and more disheartened as he talked to him.
I think he met his hero and he wasn't what he'd expected 😅
yeah. yeah. oh. yeah.
Never meet your heroes
@@adambutler1513 Which is especially baffling since his hero acted exactly like he did online. This isn't like, you meet the actor of your favorite childhood TV show and it turns out they're a douchebag. Gene acted the same. I don't know why Richard expected him to not act as he did.
To me, it seems like he was slowly realizing just how alone and insane they both are for pursuing this completely nonsensical philosophy. Its like the aussie was understanding that he was staring into his future.
It's a shame he didn't build his website with Squarespace
OMFG
See that never would have worked. He'd only be able to do it on Cubespace.
This deserves more likes
he must have used wix
nah man, he believed that timecube is 3 dimensional where as square is 2 dimensional
Galileo: *shunned and humiliated*
Ray: *applauded by a room full of MIT students*
@Draugr Have no fear, this is the working of Entropy. Everything proceeds to chaos, and boy are we ever proceeding.
Fun Fact: The reason Galileo was shunned by the Church wasn't due to his theory of the earth revolving around the sun but rather some cursitory remarks about the current Pope at the time.
It'd be a bit like the a college teacher writing their paper for tenure and making some tangents in the paper about the college president and how the people on the peer review all look like a bunch of dumbasses. Do you think that teacher is getting approved?
Your only correct if everyone hates you
@@t.r2603. True, but the lesson is about the hipocrisy of several institutions *inside* the Church (at the time, duh) that aimed to share this new knowledge about Nature but in reality only managed to support the status quo of ignorant masses afraid of new ideas. I hope the contrast with your simile is nnotable enough to enter some books right now
Galileo wasn't special relatively speaking. Darwin on the other and
I would have thought for sure that Richard was messing with Gene the whole time. It was very surprising to learn how incredibly and tragically sincere he was in his belief of the Time Cube stuff.
Maybe he was to begin with then his illness made it difficult to tell the difference.
Considering they say there was a lot more to his life beyond this stuff, I still don't entirely believe he was sincere. The depression and neo-nazi stuff sounds a lot more serious and the timing might've just been coincidence.
Rewatching this and it really hit me how young Richard was when he passed, he wasn't even 22 yet. It sucks that Gene Ray was so apparently callous about Richard, but I truly don't think he was able to realize how big of an impact he had on Richard.
The crazy man completely out of touch with reality didn't realize the impact his actions could have on others? No way! /s
He was schizophrenic
@@joriankell1983 And your father is a fish
@@joriankell1983 And you think you're sane?
@@RobotronSage whatever, expat. You still running way too many discord servers?
"I'm biracial"
No, you're race squared.
The Joeggernaut or maybe even.... Race cubed?
Only two races? I think you mean four
That wouldn't mean biracial, squared means to be multiplied by itself so 3 squared means 3•3 so to be racially squared means it would only be one race
@@VBYTP no it's 4x4 (not to be confused with 16)
@@wjjgtin5074 A person consists of two elements, which combines into 4 later in life. To be biracial, or race squared, would imply that a person can be perfect on its own, which explains Gene Ray's confusion: a full bright-side is supposed to be unstable.
They thought he was crazy, but he was really seeing the earths hit box. We are truely in a simulation
Oh god oh fuck I hope he doesn't noscope Earth
Noice
You can never see more than 4 corners in the sky at once. Checkmate, Humanity.
He actually noclipped out and a saw the skybox
Imagine if the earth had 1hp left and you just slap the earth and it just fucking disappears
I remember my own long gone grandfather who believed in fringe bible and historical conspiracies written in a book he claims to have the title "Mater de Golgotha." I really loved listening to him talk about those things passionately, it's like an alternate history fiction podcast.
You still have the bible? Sounds interesting
@@qwertical1431basic
Do you have the book? You should archive it and link it here
Do you have the book? You should archive it and link it here
This guy reminds me of a guy who lives in my town called Keith carlock who has been studying invisibility since the 90s and sometimes comes on public access whenever he can to talk about his invisibility and holodeck theory. He's a nice man, but consumed by schizophrenia and thinks the local newspaper has been suppressing his ideas for over 20 years.
I really hate schizophrenia especially one that follows the pattern like of Ray and of Keith here... As well as harmful paranoia & detachment from reality. I don't have schizo myself but it must be tiring to your mind & body, and confusion or in worse cases, fear can plague your mind.
I just googled his name and holy shit you ain’t kidding. Just found what I’m gonna be binging for the next few days.
@@--.._It used to be labelled as "early dementia" due to the vast similarities, but that's since been proven there are enough differences. Still, scary to think my condition is comparable to dementia and that it will never go away, only getting worse.
@@trustytrestdementia/schizo makes me question the parameters of individual ego, no answers just questions
-1 x -1 = a south american
Truly insightful. They never taught us this in math class. Education is DUMB and EVIL.
(Yeah)
South american here. Can confirm this is how i was born
Brazillian here, I also can confirm that this is how i raised my cube spirit upon the Earth
Cant wait to impress my Basic Calculus Professor.
(Yeah.)
How many takes did you go through trying to read of all this nonsense verbatim and not bust out laughing?
Fredrik Knudsen (myeah)
(mmhmm)
y e a h
(yeah.)
the Australian kid sounds so unimpressed and uncomfortable the whole time he's talking to ray in person. like he realized "oh wait, this man is insane."
He sounded like he was on the spectrum.
I'm not an expert, and theorizing about someone's mental state over the Internet is dangerous, but I do know that a flat affect can be a symptom of schizophrenia
I went to uni with Richard. I remember him trying to talk to me about Time Cube at some point. At that time (2006) I had never heard of it and had no idea what it was, so I must have responded with disinterest. He got the message because he moved on and went to talk about it with other people instead.
What an interesting tale
I genuinely wanna know more about this Richard guy
*GOD IS CORNERED AS A QUEER*
That is one of the most funniest out of context quote.
It's funny even with context
Who knew god what so #relatable?
can you even explain it with context? It comes out of nowhere completely off-topic lol
Everything from this guy had me choking in laughter
"So, what does -1 times -1 equal?"
"A South American!"
"I'm biracial, so..."
"You're WHAT???"
i had to pause for a minute to lose my shit over it
"God is cornered as a queer."
...
I recognise those words individually but god help me if I can make heads or tales of that.
I guess they are trying to say god is queer???? I have no idea what being cornered as queer is
That’s because it’s word salad. They’re all words but together they don’t make a coherent sentence. An unfortunate symptom of whatever disorders he was battling.
God's gay af
The true prophecy is finally revealed, god is hella gay
Mankind was meant to evolve into sexual deviancy to end itself, God Is the biggest LGBT supporter of all
I watch this video semi-anually to make sure I'm not going insane by seeing if the time cube has suddenly started to make more sense
it unironically is and im freaking out over this, the number 4 is appearing everywhere i look especially in years. 2012 - disaster year, 2016 - disaster year, 2020 - disaster year, if some crazy shit happens in 2024 im gonna go fucking insane
@@retardmode what happened in 2012 and 2016?
@@emperortgp2424 2012 - supposed end of the world and massive freakouts, 2016 - us presidential election and massive freakouts. the years themselves werent nearly as bad as the reaction of the general public to them
@@retardmode so they weren't really disaster years after all...
@@emperortgp2424 in a way yeah but the general public perceived them as that. if something similar happens in 2024 (probably something related either to the current situation with ukraine or to a new strain of corona or whatever) i would not be surprised but i would definetely feel validated in my pattern recognition skills lmao
Richard's death really, truly shocked me. Right up to that point I assumed he was someone just really interested in Gene's thought processes and was just really dedicated to learn about how his mind worked. Really sad.
"God evolves from Santa"
That's four words I thought I would never see together
I can't refute it.
Duh! Santa is an anagram of Satan. You really don't seem to understand the concept of Timecube do you?
@Draugr Haha, you were in the other thread about the escalator to Heaven, talking something about rape in Swedish psychiatric hospitals being a therapy. Read my story on that one that I just typed, is quite amusing, but it was true, yes.
Use the phrase as a password then. But not that one of course.
@Draugr It was further down the page, Charlotte Markowski's comment. But I said that this happened to me:
FAST N BULBOUS
1 week ago
I was unfairly sent to psychiatric hospital a few years ago due to my lottery debacle story where I'm left to sound delusional when I am not. I can attest that there are indeed people inside that are like this. Was even this one guy (Wanky Shit Demon) who would shit himself often and jerk off in the dining hall area during lunch. And this frightful woman I met who blatantly stole my e-cigarette by sticking it inside her vagina before being transferred to her new destination, I just know it. It just vanished after I gave her it to smoke on for a bit before leaving. Her fingers were so yellow. Complete beast.
"Did you know your Dad was a fish?"
"No please explain."
Chris Taylor Best reaction of all time. 😄
"life is based on a perfect math, or your arm would be too short to wipe your butt" mans spittin facts 🤔
Gene either never tried to suck himself off, or he was able to
I miss down the rabbit hole, i rewatch them every 2 or 3 months. 10 out of 10 youtube right here.
Is he not posting anymore?
@@Templeandtide Been a while since his last video, so I assume not.
@@Templeandtidehe's actually just been working on one longass video for a good few years now; it's about some sort of MMO or other online game I think and last I knew he said it's length would be approximately five hours
@@irisaferg2524that sounds ridiculous. A few years for one video? There are other channels that pump out hour long high quality videos every few months, best example i can come up with rn is whitelight who had an 8 hour review of death stranding. That took him like a few months to make. Id say personally that's a silly move. I get quality over quantity but at this point id rather eat a potato than die of starvation yk what i mean?
@@MrMacchiato97agreed.
Just feed this data into TempleOS and watch creation implode.
It just occurred to me that now you've done an episode on TempleOS.
Well... the universe had a good run.
Is that how we achieve Instrumentality?
TheOwneroftheIC Yes, by combining TempleOS with the Time Cube, they shall complete each other and become one, as shall all of humanity. From then, Rei shall become a giant woman and bring about a new beginning for humanity
@@aaronlandry3934 Fry me to the moon
KABUTOMUSHI
"Hey, lemme ask you another question, did you know your father was a fish?"
"Yea."
Shit.
that means Seaman is real.
True, when fetus develops, at certain stage has appearance similar of a undeveloped fish fetus.
MJ Red my father was a toucan
Imagine if someone told him that a cube has three dimensions, he would've gone ballistic
Or maybe cubistic?
Damn, hearing about the kid's death in the video hit me like a ton of bricks. The poor guy just wanted an idol, someone to loop up to, but he found the worst one. And that idol rejected him.
Oh believe me there are *far* worse idols he could have found.
@@Shenaldrac If he was a nazi sympathizer then apparently not.
I feel bad for him, yeah. Had Ray been *slightly less schizophrenic* I'm sure that they would have had a far better relationship. Obviously, Ray was so schizophrenic that he couldn't tell reality that well, but Richard seemed to genuinely want to understand the Time Cube theory and could have become a "scholar", so to speak. If Gene hadn't denounced Richard and instead treated him as someone to teach, not argue against, then I think that he could have survived. But alas, Ray wasn't just incorrect, he was delusional. It's a shame, really.
Many idols have been rejected by their followers as well.
It’s kind of ironic that he treated people who mocked him better than the one person who actually believed his theory
He seemed surprisingly friendly and well-adjusted in the videos we see, his ramblings aside. Either something really bad happened off-camera, or like many people Gene transformed into something else when he went online.
Trackers89 if he was schizophrenic, it does explain the sudden change.
Also the site and time cube might be his way of self treating the disorganised thoughts/delusions, with out him acknowledgeing that what he had.
Plus it looks like he had a good social outlet / people looking out for him, which could explain why he seems so well adjusted
Throughout the story you saw that Gene had a very big ego, constantly claiming superiority to everyone else and giving himself titles like doctor. I think Time Cube was less of a scientific theory and more of a way for him to inflate his own ego, for whatever reason. Whenever CubeHead came along, garnering attention and creating his own site, Gene saw it as a threat, as it detracted attention away from him. That's why he talked to CubeHead and made him put that disclaimer. To make sure the site pointed to Gene himself, instead of the concept of the time cube.
It's a lot like how the director of the cult bad movie Troll 2 preferred the mocking of people who were laughing at him and not with him. Being a laughingstock gets him work at midnight showings in indie cinemas, conventions, etc.
I strongly doubt that other guy actually believed his theory. Seems more like he was just trying to make a name for himself and get Internet Famous by riding the coattails of the original Time Cube Guy (tm).
"That's the reason I use big print - Once you see it, you have read it."
That's.. That's actually genius.
I bet if you subtracted the crazy you'd be left with a fairly clever guy. Not that it's a perfect indicator, but I don't think I saw a single misspelled word on the timecube site. Granted, he could have used an early spellcheck.
That's true, actually logical and clever
😅🤣🤣😂
@@olinekokraglinek7577 If only he'd apply that to the rest of his theory... then maybe, just maybe, we'd be reading about it differently.
Big pp
Imagine how insane it would’ve been if this dude and Terry Davis had met
It’s right up there with the fact Abraham Lincoln could have faxed samurai
They probably wouldn’t have gotten along well given how much Terry despised atheists
Terry would have ran his athiest glow in the dark ass over with his car
@@369TurtleMan True. Imagine the debates.
Terry absolutely powerbombs Ray into the core of the earth
I'm glad that he had friends and grandchildren who looked out for him.
having a schizophrenic father who i've watched spiral downwards makes so many of the down the rabbit hole videos so saddening to watch... not nearly as upsetting as templeos, but the amount of people who egged gene on, warping his perception of how he's seen and laughing behind his back, and then there's the fact that gene had adult kids and grandkids that probably had to watch him spiral down too just... really bums me out honestly.
i am really sorry :/
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@@cricket9282 man that has to be so scary for u... i have huge respect for u guys... this illness is really one of the scariest
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@@cricket9282 shit man... I hope it stays like that. And like I said, huugee respect!
You know what the worst part about all of this is?
A cube doesn't have four sides. A cube is three dimensional, it has 6 sides.
khdo12346 time square dosent sound as good
but its not a square, its a cube. because the earth is 3d, a sphere
but you don't say "sixteen" because you'd lose the value of four
He would just say it has four sides, a top and a bottom.
6 faces*
I love how unenthusiastic the Australian guy is when he showed up to interview him. Its such a funny juxtaposition with how overly excited he acted in all his previous videos.
In geometry, what we commonly call a corner in a room is actually a vertix, where three or more faces meet, a corner is where two faces meet
Cubes have 8 vertices, 12 corners and 6 faces.
What's even funnier is that he is actually describing two conjoined pyramids. That's an octahedron, which has 12 corners, 6 vertices and 8 faces.
this video should have been 44:44 long
But can @Pol'sProductions 's comment reach 444 likes?
I just gave it it’s 444th like! Now we need 4,000 more people to like it and we’ll be on to something.
Guido Mista no like
Just give the man a copy of Minecraft and he'll be happy.
Someone is salty that I watch a TV show.
Uh...
I think it's a bit late.
Not entirely. If you read his notes, you will learn that time is cubed so while he may be dead to us, he's still alive in terms of his notes.
Here is your bag of attention
Chicken Sludge Okay, now THIS is epi c
Hearing the "Educated people are stupid cowards" quote, turning to my screen, and seeing "God evolves from Santa" at the top was one of the wildest emotional journeys I've been on.
Didn't think this would end in suicide for his one believer. I hopes he's resting easy now. Must suck to find someone to connect to, then be publicly shamed and tossed aside
The fact he betrayed the only person who seemed to actually support him is pretty disgraceful.
Considering his schizophrenia mental disease he wasnt really even in the right mind to begin with. Its probably him not even realizing what he's doing or his ailment was disrupting any form of judgement he could have even had.
This story is kinda humanity in a nutshell.
He seemed to believe that Richard J. had betrayed him first, and while Gene may have been completely out of his mind in many other ways -- that doesn't necessarily mean he was wrong on that one point, especially given that Richard was so troubled according to his friends. Or as other have said, maybe the so-called "betrayal" was actually yet another of Gene's delusions. But since Gene was never clear (unsurprisingly) about his schism with Richard and both parties are now dead, we'll never really know the truth.
I hardly think that's fair when literally hundreds of people seemed to make it their mission to destroy his ability to trust, blur his sense of reality, and turn him into a massive public spectacle with the intent of mocking his mental illness. You think HE'S disgraceful? I'm not saying the internet's responsibility was to get him help, but when people are actively trying to confuse, mislead, and humiliate a mentally ill old man, I hardly think him acting out of paranoia is inexcusable. He clearly didn't know what was real anymore and couldn't help that. It's disgusting that people think the trolling is justifiable but his confused actions are inexcusable.
In a psych class, we once spoke about a study where 3 people who all had Messiah complexes were forced to interact for a while. All of them believed they were God incarnate, and in direct interaction they were all polite to one another. When separated, however, they all spoke about how crazy the others were, and pointed to the exact symptoms they themselves were portraying as evidence of the others being nuts. While incapable of expressing doubt in their personal delusion, most delusional people still recognize it in others, and if the descriptions of his follower were correct, he was also pretty delusional. Such a sad fate.
When lecturing at Universities, he thought he was lecturing to Physics and Engineering students who came to learn about Time Cube. Instead it was an auditorium full of Psych Students who came to study his thought process and learn about Schizophrenia.
They were making fun of him though. So cruel and unethical
@@Altzar2011 Did you ever spend time in a school? It's what kids do. Hopefully they can be more professional once they have their degrees in a few years, but kids interact with life in a joking, if not a mocking and aggressive way because they're unsure of themselves and don't want to appear that way. Bravado is the easiest way to mitigate that.
@@scorpion07070 Precisely, I am a teacher myself.
scorpion07070 uhhh not college students lol. Its usually only middle-highschool students who don’t learn the common decency
@@scorpion07070 wtf man, people at university aren't kids
It's so depressing watching how Ray seems to want to fight with Richard during all the videos. Like the por kid just wanted to talk time cube and Ray just couldnt get out of his instinct that people disagreed with him.
As cooky as the guy is, he’s one of the only old guys on the internet to have a young guy fly to him, pick him up, and not try to bang him. I’ll take that cool kind of crazy any day
While this story is sad, did anyone else notice how decent Ray was with technology? Like he could scan images, make a website (which implies he knew enough HTML) and all that. Like, wow. Teachers in 2018 can't even get rid of the pointer from the projector screen
Just because someone is willing to throw their life away doesn't mean they were/are useless. The world was just too harsh and confusing a place for them to see enough hope in the future to fight off their demons.
That's because the teachers are educated stupid.
He can always pay someone to make the website for him.
There's an odd phenomenon regarding old internet and tech literacy. Lot's of adults were tech literate at the time and for some reason or another their ability just vanished over time.
You see lots of people talking about their tech literate parents in the 90's, how they were capable of x,y,z and then fast forward to present day they are so incompetent they can't even do basic shit like copying files. People say old age but I doubt that.
I mean if he was an electrician he couldn't have been stupid and had to have some background with technology.
Holy fuck I realized I live just down the road from this guy. I wish I had met him before he died
Neon White Please get out >U
D. M. He's not dead; he's in the time cube. There's four corners on the time cube. Four fours, not 16.
(Yeah.)
No, nobody dies in the time cube. We all become cubes in the real world. Also are you aware that your father is a fish?
D. M. Have you met his family tho?
This dude would answer *EVERY* email he ever got. Don't know how he had time for anything else. I would write him with absolute nonsense I made up on the spot and he would seriously try to debate it, until realizing that I was clowning him and hitting me with this zinger: "A fart has more meaning than what you just said." Been, er, borrowing that one ever since.
EDIT: I was 12-13 so yeah. When I found out how old he was I felt bad. Also may I add in the warped annals of schizophrenic theories of the world and whatnot, Timecube at least started out with an axiom (of sorts) that I was able to understand and at least had something approaching coherence. Again, I am judging this purely against the standard of Schizophrenic rationales, so, you know.
Yeah, it makes more sense that war continues and children suffer and starve while the rest search the amazonians to find the perfect widget so we can return it it the next day to search for another widget. Why was it so hard for that lunatic to just accept the the Vatican deserves to be the largest land owner on the planet and that nutty Irish singer pointed a finger and was condemned.
Hmmm. Weird. It seems like she was right.
This feels like a Lovecraftian character driven mad by "impossible geometry". There's Non-Euclidean, and then there's Time Cube.
That sounds like something Lovecraft would have done!
Trying to understand shapes in higher dimensions (like 4D, 5D, 6D shapes etc) is pretty much that. No human can really comprehend it. You can't imagine a 4D cube. You can't even draw a 4D cube. You can only understand it with maths. We can use maths to determine properties of higher dimensional objects but we'll never be able to actually see one of them. And trying to imagine one for decades would probably drive you mad. Plenty of mathematicians went mad. Georg Cantor, Ludwig Boltzmann, Kurt Gödel are all mathematicians who went mad because of maths.
Meanwhile here I am, literally have diagnosed schizophrenia, and I have none of the secret super powers. I'm pretty terrible at arithmetic.
I was thinking that too. Sounds like a fantasy-science for an anime like the Human Instrumentality Program from Evangelion.
@@duffman18 a beautiful mind sucked anyways
I find it funny the emphasis on non-euclidean geometry in some of Lovecraft's work. Literally all it is is just spheres and shit
Mentally he reminds me a lot of Terry A Davis, the creator of TempleOS. An old schizophrenic who latched onto a nonsensical project they're devoted their life to, slowly become more volatile and angry.
I watched this video directly after the TempleOS video, and immediately drew the parallels to schizophrenia. That's one hell of a disease :(
You predicted the future of this youtube channel!
I am also reminded of The Pigman
@@noahprussia7622pigman?
@@bichodomatoexe the book "The Pigman"
He says "four corners" and calls his theory "the time cube", just to remind you, a cube has 8 corners.
I've rewatched this a few times since I first found it, and I've come to the understanding that what he refers to as a cube is, basically, a tall square.
For those who are unaware, pirate-themed folk/power metal band Alestorm has a song about time cube: To the End of the World.
I used to work in a small independent movie theater back in college. We had a regular customer that came in once a week who we named Vietnam John. John was a very eccentric old man. He normally worry black tights/yoga pants, a neon yellow athletic shirt and a large fur coat. He was missing most of his teeth and had long hair that was dyed black and kept in a pony tail. He loved flashlights, and always had a collection of pen lights to show off. Despite being on the kooky side, he always came off seeming intelligent. I got the impression that John spent every day reading anything he could. He had an amazing ability to recall things he had read, but little filter in what he read or absorbed from it. He was just as likely to talk to you about physics as he was about the illuminati. Gene Ray sounds and talks just like John, and cube time sounds like something John would talk about. Maybe he's just a different independent theater's Vietnam John that just happened to get famous.
Down the Rabbit Hole Vietnam John edition when?
Why was he called that?
Moving Parts Gaming Sounds like aspergers
Jesus christ. This kid came from Australia, got picked up at a wafflehouse, and then followed this guy into his shed.
DeViNoDe then ultimately killed himself after that man turned his back on him. I feel bad. He needed help alot of it. And instead he met a man that only amplified his problems and proved to be the catalyst to his suicide. Unfortunate.
not trying to be funny saying this but, after the part where he was picked up I was waiting for the story to turn real dark. then he entered the shed and I was like "Oh shit, better get ready to pause this thing". last thing I needed before I go to bed.
It was the early and mid 2000s internet, like the Wild West for online predators.
I've watched this video at least a dozen times and I still can't figure out how the Time Cube supposedly works.
same. i just know it can't be disproven.
Allow me to try and explain. From what I've gathered, gene is trying to say that on earth there are 4 times of the day at any given time. Basically trying to condense our current multiple time zones into only four time zones to fit his cube narrative, It falls apart rather quickly.
@@nicholasskific4795 That makes sense in a way that is also completely insane.
Every once in a while I come back to your channel to rewatch your videos and no matter how many times I've seen them already, your storytelling always manages to enthral me :) I swear you're the best at making this type of vids
i love how the moment the two wisest men on earth meet for the first time they can just barely hold a real conversation
When you dump everything into Wisdom, but your INT and CHA is still low.
Yeah.
(Yeah.)
@@ButtersTheGreat1 I always asked myself how you can be wise but not intelligent in an RPG, like you know stuff but you can't express it?
@@blackstatic161 Think of intelligence as book smarts and wisdom as street smarts.
An intelligent man knows that a tomato is a fruit. A wise man knows you don't put tomato in a fruit salad.
Someone who's wise but not intelligent would be "book dumb", but amazing as far as practical knowledge goes.
Someone said “be there or be square” to him and he didn’t show up
Goddamnit.
Because he's in a higher dimension. Try saying "be there or be cubed" and see what happens.
this is a supremely underrated comment
Twice.
@@ShadowWizard123 Motherfucker waddles in as Minecraft Steve, and everyone gasps in shock.
I love how intensely bored Cubehead sounded while spending the day with his personal hero. The only hint of enthusiasm came while he was visibly annoying Gene with “basic” questions.
This dude was claiming to be such a devout and wise follower and as soon as he meets Gene all he can muster is “ahh yeah” “yeah okay” “yeah”
He would of loved minecraft.
of all the things, _this_ is the one that made me lol
minecraft is about as close to an actual diagram of the universe as you will ever get
What's even funnier is that everything on minecraft is made of cubes lol
@@nick8339 thats natures cubic balance
It's "would have", stupid.
Nobody:
Gene Ray: Did you know your father was a fish?
F I S H
m i c r o s p e r m f i s h
A fish who was also a pyramid, and was certainly not Jewish.
Kanye West: My father was gay and my mother was a fish.
@@wickedwitchofthewest1614 Gay Fish
I just found your channel and this is my third trip down the rabbit hole. Great work on the content.
"Youre like the fingers on your hand, youve got the baby, the child, the parent, the grandparent"
........Daddy Finger, Daddy Finger, where are you? Here I am, here I am, how do you do......
Jahmocha I thought I was done with finger family....
Daddy Finger, meet 'Tallman'
*TRIGGERED*
Oh god no! Not that song! My son is 3 and sings that song constantly...
Here I am. HOW DO YOU DO?
We’ve come full circle
"i'm biracial"
"YOU'RE WHAT ?!"
Kirby B
Mixed people: “Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru.”
Gene: *”NANI?!”*
guess he's not a logic fan
Well, you see biracial can't exist, as 2 is not four. However, quad racial can exist, as it doesn't undermine the value of four.
DarthR0xas oh my gods that actually made sense to me.
I just got to that bit lol
The way he's so adamant we have 4 fingers and 4 toes on each hand/foot is hilarious 😆
Your documentaries are wonderful. Thank you, sir.
First half had me laughing. Second made me come to the realization that this is a story of tragedy possible only in our era.
This is a tragedy of our time³.
But then you check the next Down the Rabbit hole and realize that life is just tragic in general.
LMAOOO
@@Chillibe seriously. God, I just watched the one about the collyer brothers.
Our time and three other times.
Time4/16*
Printed this website during science class in highschool back in 2002. Teacher was so fucking pissed, but didn't know how to tell which pc was doing the printing.
Morgan Biddlecom The linear-timeists are going to assasinate you now.
genius
He died a only a few years too early. Based on the shit you see people say all over Twitter these days, people would be all over believing in time cube.
time cube ranks in the top 10 deceptions of this age
Breatharians
Flat Earth
Russian Collusion
transanything
padded bras
Michele
voluntary taxation
Jiffy
and common sense
I actually had 16 but, well you know.
@@AbsurdityViewerLOL you’re nuts
How the hell do you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and 20 years on a theory only to end up with "uhhhh time has 4 sides"
Schizophrenia.
The sun has it's heat on the outside, that's masculinity. The Earth has it's heat on the inside that's femininity.
That's actually quite an interesting observation. I guess you could say he's thinking outside the square.
You see, this makes sense because God is cornered as a Queer.
@@kassadinthevoidwalker7438 and god is cornered in the cube. It makes fucking perfect sense, this guy is a enlightened god
The sun is hotter on the inside than the outside, so its genderqueer you fuckin cubeless fuck
That's just the classic Olympian vs Chtonic dichotomy people have been discussing for thousands of years. Freud wrote about it a lot, as did ancient Brahmins.
What you're seeing their is his malfunctioning brain making random tangential connections due to the nature of his mental illness. Its actually fascinating.
"Your father was a fish."
Seriously though. These are all sad stories and the Time Cube is no exception. I can't help but just see an old man suffering from some fashion of mental illness, and then a similarly wounded young man getting lost in these delusions. Committing suicide when his hero insulted him, then Rey just becoming fully (if he ever wasn't) incomprehensible.
That all said, I still have no clue what the Time Cube is.
Hero of Trains thought he was taking the piss out of the old man but didn't expect Janczarski to take his own life.
What a bitter end to a weird story.
I remember seeing the time cube website written on a wall at a rest stop during a school trip and looking it up when I got home. Saw the ramblings that quickly devolved into swearing and left
"The races must not mix until the time cube is defeated."
That MIT meeting was really important to him. I am glad nobody was too mean to him so it could be a positive memory as opposed to feeling made fun of. I was concerned for him in that part of the video, but he wears his MIT hat a lot, so I think he liked it.
@@Adam-ni6ne You mean except for that one guy who he denounced and drove into offing himself?
To begin with i do not think "he didnt really hurt anyone" is applicable to someone who is suffering from a god complex. Whoever comes close to such people in any shape or form will get nothing, NOTHING but abuse. Richard is prime example this. Gave him the last push next to the rails and he didnt give a single _ enough to as much as remove his accusations from his site. No m8. People like these are objectively some of the worst type of sociopthic trash you can find among humanity.
@@nonusbusinissus5632 Besides the god complex it looks like he was schizophrenic so yea he did and said terrible things but it seems like the mental illness caused it
I mean, they were also enabling him and reinforcing his delusions. It was entertaining to watch but not 100% a good thing.
I agree with what Jacob said. You shouldn't reinforce delusion. He has this smug sense of superiority because he thinks no one else can see his delusions. He thinks hes the smartest man in the world and brags about it. Maybe he should have been taken down a peg or two.
vae I don’t think knocking him down a peg or two would have the desired effect
"Did you know your father was a fish?" "No. Please explain."
Ok, this is dipping into Monty Python absurdism now...
It sounds like a cut scene where Arthur meets the Lady of the Lake again and she's a fish head with legs. And the mud harvesting peasants show up to argue with her.
Technically we evolved from fish which currently have no cladistic grouping because that would include any descendants which would include us as well.
Should we attempt to have a proper biological classification for fish, we would be fish and that would include the other person's father.
However, his reasoning is likely very different and based on flawed logic, so he was only accidentally correct.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio it isnt his father though, more like a few million year old ancestor
@@themanwiththebeard4632 i guess gene meant the sperm that merged with the egg to create the person
“Did you know your father’s a fish?” Straight outa left field and it just about killed me! 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But then he explains it and it makes total sense, he really was the greatest human
Please make more videos. I enjoy the break downs. Well done
“Well... I’m biracial...”
And at that moment, Gene Ray knew, he needed four fours because 16 would demean the value of 4.
What if this guy truly has glimpsed some great cosmic truth and it’s just broken his mind?
It’s possible
If he did, his mind was apparently too fucked afterwards to express his insights in words.
Who knows what he might have seen or experienced. He took it to his grave.
You literally just tapped into a metaphysical theory about the collective unconscious and schizophrenic's ability to tap into the collective, but severely damaged and broken by it
Very Lovecraftian
Nah...theres too much arrogance and intitlement in this. Thats how I know this isn’t truthful in any way. He might make some intresting points, but its all irrelevant. Its partially cleverly made and thats what makes this an intresting art. Basically just a creepy pasta about a world view.
The French word for 80, “quatre-vingts” literally means “four-twenties” #Proof #TimeCubeConfirmed
Parisan French. Belgian, Swiss, and old French use octante instead., which is actually an old leftover from the German and Dutch influences for the Belgians, and the Italian and German influences in Switzerland.
Parisan French is basically the equivalent of turning cock sucking into a language, so even if we use it as #TimeCubeConfirmed you have to literally toss a couple of white froggers into the pot and burn those worthless bastards in order to justify the same hashtag.
haha blaze it
Holy fuck....
30:05 Good Lord man hahahaha. "See here on the front of my shirt it says I am the smartest person in the world. And then on the reverse side it says that I am the smartest person in the world." (paraphrasing).
how can time be real if our cubes aren't real
Miiks Because you have 4 grandparents and 16 grandparents but you don't say 16 you say 4. pay attention!
Steady on, Jaden
The fuck is a cube?
a cube is a false transmission from the 5th dimensional godhead into the 4th dimension.
Because your father is a fish...
"I'm bi-racial."
"YOU'RE_WHAT_?!"
Hwaaat?!
NANI?!!
Ian Phoenix that right there disproved his theory and stumped the shit outta him
@Black Hippy
No, he just claimed that it was destroying the human race by destroying the four races.
I would have the same reaction tbh
I wonder what it was like for the people close to this man. It's not enough to witness a family member or friend slipping away from lucidity, but strangers actively encourage his decline because they take delight in his public humiliation. It's so depressing to think about.
What an absolutely bizarre ride, I had no idea that 1) Dude made it to 2015 and 2) He had a schizo nutswinger who offed themselves when their shitsmearing insane idol turned out to be... insane.
"...as he was the only one able to comprehend the Timecube."
I mean, he's right on that part, at least.
fash ticos I comprehended it just fine. It’s basically a bunch of dualistic/platonic/deuteronumerological mumbo jumbo🤪
has anyone yet made the joke that gene lost his marbles
@@rocketsummer One of the people at the MIT lecture did, actually.
@@rocketsummer He lost it while walking in the Timecube. When the four corners converge and the eight cardinal directions center, the Timecube will appear and he'll get his marbles back.
only people who watch rick and morty know what the time cube is
ironman btw
To be fair...
Pickle Rey