Myths About African Americans Moving to Africa

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  • čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
  • I talk about common assumptions about the phenomenon of African Americans migrating to Africa. I point out that things are more complicated than we tend to believe.
    Here is the link to the documentary "A Panther in Africa"
    www.pbs.org/pov/films/apanthe...
    Here is a link to the story of David Robinson, a son of baseball legend Jackie Robinson:
    www.arkrepublic.com/2022/04/1...

Komentáře • 39

  • @darrellgamble00
    @darrellgamble00 Před 27 dny +8

    Tanzania is my home now. I have all those reasons for that: the good life, the struggle, the culture, language, integration into the society. It's not all our nothing. I came for all of it. I only come to the states for business. My wife and kids are happily on the continent. I'm built for this. The beauty of it as well as the flaws. America's advantage is the infrastructure, material things. But the situation otherwise is hell on wheels. And yes, racism is a chief driver. I've been through hell with that in corporate America.
    I speak Spanish and had a choice to do South America or the Caribbean but the future is Africa. I want to spend the rest of my building the bridges necessary for our watu wetu kufika nyumba yetu.
    Best decision of my life. Thanks for the channel. I enjoy each chat.

  • @FoodForTheSoulGlobal
    @FoodForTheSoulGlobal Před 26 dny +4

    Professor Mbele I believe your work on the cultural differences between Africans and Americans is very important. Having had the pleasure to host your lectures twice here in Tanzania where I have been living for the last eight years and to have read your books has been very informative and helpful. However I do believe that there is much that you still need to understand about African Americans. In my experience and from what I’ve heard from others, when we come to the continent as black Americans or people of African descent from the diaspora, we are not often seen as being African. We are seen only as foreigners. Many Africans, yourself included professor Mbele, do not really understand the African-American experience of living in a culture of such racism and oppression that still exists to this day. I encourage you to do some more research. Look into Michelle Alexander, who wrote the book The New Jim Crow and Dr Joy DeGruy Leary who wrote Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. This is a good place to start if you really want to be able to understand and to speak to and speak about African-Americans from a place of understanding. Thank you, Ama Opare

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 26 dny +2

      @FoodForTheSoulGlobal, what a pleasant surprise to see you here. I was about to write you, to let you know that I am coming to Tanzania again last week of July. We could get together again with your remarkable community from the diaspora.
      Because you actually have read my books and heard me speak extensively, your views about my work carry enormous weight, and I thank you very much. For anyone who might be interested, the books are "Africans and Americans: Embracing Cultural Differences" and "Chickens in the Bus: More Thoughts on Cultural Differences," available here: www.lulu.com/spotlight/mbele
      On the issue of Black Americans being seen as foreigners in Africa, here is an example of what I have said in the past, under the title "When Africans Call African Americans White People": czcams.com/video/8ThwxrX29eI/video.html
      I am aware that I still have much to learn, and I am learning. There can be no end to learning. We should all be involved. As matters stand, there is much ignorance among Africans about their own history and the history and present circumstances of Blacks in the diaspora, and there is much ignorance among Blacks in the diaspora about their own history and about African history and present circumstances. Many problems and misunderstandings stem from this ignorance.
      Again, thank you very much.

    • @doinggarveytv5894
      @doinggarveytv5894 Před 24 dny

      Peace Dr. Mbele! How much do you know about the white man you are consistently around? How much studying did you do of them? This information definitely tells me that you've never really associated yourself with FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS(FBA) since you were granted your paperwork by the white to live in America. Since only consider us as your test subjects instead of your Brothers and Sisters tells me a lot about your association with us. As you know you've benefitted a lot from the sacrifice of our FBA Ancestors. Yes, you do have a lot to learn about us kidnapped Afrikans and FBAs. We're BUILT DIFFERENT. ❤️🖤💚💯✊🏿

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 24 dny

      @@doinggarveytv5894 thanks for your message. I was born and raised in Tanzania. From a young age, we were taught, in Swahili, "binadamu wote ni ndugu zangu," meaning "all human beings are my kin."
      We learned from our President, Julius Nyerere, the kind of lesson Martin Luther King Jr. taught in this country, that everybody deserves to be judged by the content of their character, not by the colour of their skin. That is how I view people. People of any race can be my brothers and sisters. The "white man" in this predominantly white institution where I work has been, all these years, professional and respectful, just like me. Growing up, I always wanted to be a teacher, and I love teaching. I am happy to be in an institution that affords me whatever I need to be an effective teacher.
      It is true that the sacrifices of your FBA ancestors made it possible for me to work here. I know the history of slavery in this country, and the hard and costly struggles for emancipation, for civil rights, and so on.
      On the other hand, African Americans who are moving to Africa are able to do so because of the sacrifices of my ancestors on the continent. Think about the many uprisings in the German colonies, the British colonies, the French colonies, the Portuguese colonies. Think about the decades of struggle by South Africans against apartheid in South Africa, a country which is now one of the top destinations for African Americans.
      You started by asking how much I know about the white man I am constantly around. So far, I have shared my knowledge in two books: "Africans and Americans: Embracing Cultural Differences" and "Chickens in the Bus: More Thoughts on Cultural Differences." In these books, I share what I know, so far, about "the white man."
      More importantly, I am still learning, for learning is a life long process, and there is no one who can know everything about anybody or about any race.

  • @couproduc
    @couproduc Před 27 dny +2

    African Americans have been coming back to Africa for more than 200 years. Paul Cuffe father was a Ghanaian and his Mother was a Native American. He owned ships and sailed Blacks to Sierra Leone

  • @Kamau2012
    @Kamau2012 Před 23 dny

    Great discussion. What many people fail to understand is everything is mainly in our minds.
    The hustle culture in a developed "foreign country" is crippling yet people simply want relocate and repeat.
    I guess when culture disintegrates people's goal change drastically.

  • @kilabob1200
    @kilabob1200 Před 26 dny

    Thank you for the ino, Dr. Mbele!

  • @AuntieCheri
    @AuntieCheri Před 27 dny +1

    Hey!!! What a suprise!

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 27 dny

      @AuntieCheri, thanks for stopping by. What a pleasant surprise 😊

  • @arnoldjohnson7779
    @arnoldjohnson7779 Před 26 dny

    Bro. Mbele your understanding is great. I just became aware of how the slave trade effected East Africa. Your words are wisdom.

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 9 dny

      @arnoldjohnson7779 thank you very much for your comment.

  • @rainyfoxmedia
    @rainyfoxmedia Před 25 dny

    I think you have every right to say what you are saying whether anyone agrees or disagrees, I am sure as a professor you may know that African Americans were stripped of their identity to Africa and its ethnic groups, only a hand full still have identity with their ethnic groups from Africa like the Gullah Geechee people of South Carolina, etc So many African American do not want to be called by that name they prefer the word Black American etc..
    and do not understand, because in America everyone is Black or White, many African Americans don't want to have the word African to describe them and don't understand that White Americans also refer to themselves as Irish American or Italian American Welch, etc...I also think that there are a few that go to Africa to build the rest want to enjoy life without racism, but what many African Americans don't know is that in Africa they have Ethnic racism (Tribes) but Ultimately whenever people migrate it always creates a better world in the long run

  • @balewaalimayu4925
    @balewaalimayu4925 Před 26 dny +1

    Very good Baba Thanks for the truth some of us here in US who are Black like me We love you

  • @bekisiphotshili2566
    @bekisiphotshili2566 Před 26 dny

    I am glad this Professor has come to his senses. He was gung-ho about getting foreigners into our countries without even thinking.

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 9 dny

      @bekisiphotshili2566, I was thinking, all along. It is possible, however, that my thinking was faulty. I am not going to discount that.

  • @leedclinton5026
    @leedclinton5026 Před 27 dny +4

    Unfortunately because of the circumstances of history, many Africans born in America have been socialized against themselves. The Africans that know better (like myself) recognize Africa as our ancestorial home. We understand that we must assimilate into the culture of whatever African country we decide to expatriate to.

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 27 dny +1

      @leedclinton5026, thank you for your comments. Your views are similar to mine. In fact, regarding assimilating into the culture that I have created an online course for American Americans moving to Africa, which is appreciated by those who are using it:
      joseph-s-site-c20e.thinkific.com/courses/your-first-course

    • @Torpedopot
      @Torpedopot Před 26 dny

      Many Africans have been socialized against themselves

    • @Torpedopot
      @Torpedopot Před 26 dny

      Anytime you have billions of people they can’t open up consistent factories to produce goods and services to alleviate poverty something is mentally wrong

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 Před 26 dny +1

      @@africonexion ,a lot of black and Colored Americans are moving to Brazil,Colombia,the Dominican Rep.and Mexico.There was a black man named Robert Robinson the moved to the USSR or Russia in the 1930`s.He wrote a book titled My 44 years in the Soviet Union.Also the former Civil Rights leader who was one of Martin Luther King`s associates move to Guinea and changed his name to Kwane Toure.He also married an African.Before he changed his name his name was Shockey Carmicheal.

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 26 dny +1

      @@eddiethorne6461 thanks. I know about the legendary Paul Robeson and Kwame Toure.

  • @mavisburgess1656
    @mavisburgess1656 Před 26 dny +1

    Sorry My Brother••• its like this.. Whenever you have nothing Good to say.... Please say nothing? 😢😢

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 26 dny

      @mavisburgess1656 this is my forum and I alone decide what to share. In my desire to tell the truth as I know it, and to elicit free discussion, I talk about the good and the bad.

  • @bwiseafricam
    @bwiseafricam Před 26 dny +1

    This conversation is putting the cart before the horse. One cannot talk about the transatlantic slave trade without first talking about the european slave trade by the barbary pirates.
    The history you tell is not our history, but his-story of our history. Spinning this narrative as history for the indigenous ascendants is very onesided and a part of the problem.

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 25 dny +1

      @bwiseafricam, there is no historical account that is not an interpretation. History is a contested field, and all historical accounts are, to use your term, spinning. It has been that way since time immemorial.

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 Před 25 dny

      What European that were slaves and their children where born into slavery and for generations ?

    • @bwiseafricam5255
      @bwiseafricam5255 Před 25 dny

      @@eddiethorne6461 Europeans were enslaved by the Barbary Pirates of North Africa before and during the transatlantic slave trade, these two historical accounts ran paralleled. Research European Slave Trade

    • @bwiseafricam5255
      @bwiseafricam5255 Před 25 dny

      ​@@africonexion
      Correct, but your reference to American history lacks validity. Your interpretation is skewed because you do not have the perspective of an Indigenous American. It would benefit you to gain more knowledge about the Americas pre-colonization. I believe we need to incorporate our own truths without relying on distortions from colonizers. There are many reasons why afro-migrations occur. We are currently in our fourth great migration. Research Afro-migration.

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 Před 25 dny

      @@bwiseafricam5255 ,i did some research on the Barbary Slave Trade.I had never had a chance to research some of the details about it before and i was glad to find out that the slave trade there ended because European nations developed strong-powerful navies that were able to protect merchant ships and they were able to protect the people from enslavement.That is historically different from the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.That ended for the most part because of a Civil War that killed more Americans than any war in American history.After that the majority of the freed slaves were still not free.The Black Codes,the KKK,JIM CROW and sharecropping prolong the journey to freedom.

  • @gibson2675
    @gibson2675 Před 26 dny

    Dont forget Liberia

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 26 dny +1

      @gibson2675, yes, what happened in Liberia with the influx of Black Americans freed from slavery in the USA offers great lessons.

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 Před 25 dny

      @@africonexion ,Professor lets not also forget about Rwanda and the genocide that happened there as well.At least 100,000 people died in a month and that was not all.There were other tribal wars as well.

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 Před 25 dny

      And that was just one generation ago.

  • @jahiissa65
    @jahiissa65 Před 26 dny +2

    I am also a professor of history and Africa. This person is sooo wrong in his analysis and often sounds like A Eurocentric African.

    • @africonexion
      @africonexion  Před 26 dny +2

      @jahiissa65 the only way to show you are a professor is to respond to my views with arguments and analyses of your own. Merely proclaiming yourself a professor and merely claiming that I sound like a Eurocentric African, without any proof, is worthless.

  • @johncurry-jf6jc
    @johncurry-jf6jc Před 26 dny

    Black Americans are not migrating to Africa, there is large number of Black Americans leaving Africa for a number of reasons, Africans are Fleeing Africa in droves those that can for the same reason, for Black Americans their has been land scams, business scams, property deals go bad, and some have even lost their lives, you are telling Black Americans to go to Africa and you yourself are part ones Fleeing Africa, Africa has far too many problems that we can’t do anything about, Africa needs to fix Africa and that will start with better Leadership