This all started when he wouldn't drop Maguire,it's just carried on. So in actual fact ,all the good work he did at the start of his tenure, bringing the team together,picking in form players ,getting media onside. It's all gone,his tenure is a failure! Any one who says he's the most successful,no one else had 4 goes at it! Sir Bobby and Big Tel would of both won something having 4 cracks at it. We'd of played some football at least
@@stevenbarlow7088technically they had a go and didn’t do as well as Southgate. It’s must be said though, the draws have definitely been favourable but ultimately the football has never been good enough. I acc blame the loss to Italy on Southgate as well because picking an 18 yr old Saka to take the 5th pen is bonkers imo.
@HahahahaEnglandUltimate cringe. You actually made an accoun with that name really only shows how bitter you are. F me that is hilariously sad. You made your identity about veing bitter
He did pick on form,no rashford or freakish for gordon, Bowen and foden. But if you don't play them, or a playing style that suits them....then you clearly dont know what your doing, when things don't go right with your favorite players
exactly! drop kane in the final at least for Toney but I'd prefer Watkins Toney at least holds up , buys you time for runners behind , wins headers, is fresh and fit etc.... Watkins offers pressing, running the channels , runs behind.... was criminal to start kane
Portugal suffered the same fate. When you keep a player like Ronaldo or Kane in the team it is at the detriment to everyone else. The legs have gone, they are not sharp, cannot press, or make runs off defenders. You have no outlet, no control in the final third, no means to wrestle back control. Both Southgate and the Portugal manager have paid the price for blind loyalty to underperforming players. Kane has never been a leader, he is not a winner, and cannot motivate or lead by example. He's not selfless enough to rule himself out like he should have for the good of the team, the same thing happened in the Spurs Champions League final. He never turns up in big games and despite all his England goals, has he scored any iconic ones when we really needed it? Has he scored from nowhere without service? Has he carried the team when we needed him? There is a reason he hasn't won anything or been anywhere in the voting for global sporting awards.
Kane clearly had a foot injury which is why he was avoiding anything that would involve a tackle. But Southgate has always been starstruck and picks the big name players, no matter how out of form they are, which is why new talent (Gordon, Palmer) finds it almost impossible to get into Southgate's team.
Talk about big decisions, Alf Ramsey didn’t include the best striker in the world Jimmy Greaves in the final because Geoff Hurst and Roger Hunt were preferred even though they couldn’t lace Jimmys boots. It was the team and the result that counted most. Jimmy never really got over it but that’s what managing is about
Jimmy Greaves was injured and there was was only 50/50 chance he would last the whole match . Alf Ramsey also saw the chemistry between Hurst, Hunt, Peters & Bobby Charlton.
@@markjones-gu2fj Thanks for the reply , I think in subsequent interviews Jimmy said he was fit but one of the big decisions was that one of the great players of his time Bobby Charlton didn’t allow Beckenbuer to play. A very overlooked subject. I also think we would have defended it in Mexico had Bonetti not dived over an easy one. We missed Banksy when we needed him.
Kane's not as good at international level as lots of people think. If you look back at the teams he's scored against as well as dozens of spot kicks it backs this up.
Southgate has clearly mismanaged the England team and was outcoached pretty much the entire tournament. He made the players look bad through poor team selection, bad tactics, and bad substitutions.
And you can bet the FA will try to persuade him to stay on like they did after the last WC . He imo will leave because he can't handle the criticism which he has again imo deserved. Goning forward i honestly can't see any team in the top half of the premier league wanting Southgate as there manager .
Palmer and Watkins should have been brought into the game early part of the game. I don’t understand why Gareth kept them on the bench for so long when a player like Kane was not performing. The result could have been different. We had our chance.
@@thewomble1509Agreed, even the starting line up has become a popularity contest. Watching Bellingham and Foden play left wing is just unforgivable. Palmer should be absolutely fuming. This was his tournament for the taking.
The FA want a yes man who will do as he's told that's why managers like Mourinho , Ancelotti, Klopp, Pep will never be England manager as they will rock the boat.
Final group game start with Gordon, Watkins Bowen with Palmer behind Trent right back to find them. Any premiere league side would start with that line up but apparently couldn’t risk it against Slovenia. Resting players
He came joint 6th in the golden boot competition with an undeserved penalty and having played the most games. No-one should congratulate Harry on his golden boot before first congratulating the other 5 players.
Southgate never seemed to be a good man manager and a game strageist compared to other coaches. This team will play much better football under some other premier league coaches.
The way we play is not suited for Kane . That game should have seen Watkins start and bring Kane on at the substitution time in the 2nd half for his experience. We needed energy up from to make their defence work
And that's why Bellingham must be made England captain! I don't ever want to see Foden in the side over Palmer again. The biggest waste of talent I've ever seen. Southgate should be sacked already.
This clown set up to sit back and play on the break, with no runners! Watkins and Gordon in for Foden and Kane if he wants to play like that! Did neither, biggest waste of space in world football!
Imagine what these pundits would be saying if he'd started without either Bellingham, Foden or Kane and England still lost. Do you think they'd be balanced, reasonable and respectful of the 'courage' of a decision like that? They'd be spitting feathers in disbelief he'd left them out when they've been so in form for their clubs all season. Absolute mastery of hindsight on display in this clip!
Standard Procedure from the 'know it all' crew.... Palmer had earnt more minutes in my humble opinion, He (like Mainoo) should have been starting by the time they got to the knockout stage. Coulda/Shoulda given Phil or Jude more rest. (I know.... I did my 'know it all' impression).😉
Anyone saying you can’t leave a player out for the good of the team is clueless about how football really works. Anyone can get benched if they’re consistently playing shite lool it’s just common sense.
When you have a pool of players like England has at their disposal, you have to have the balls to make these decisions man. Everyone can see Kane was busted up, barely running, barely touching the ball. Kane is an elite talent, a guy who can create and score in his sleep.. ain’t calling him trash at all. But he was horrendous this tournament, every game barely touching the ball, dropping deep for now reason instead of stretching the pitch, getting behind , etc. they’re not wrong, can’t press well when you striker is chilling the whole time. I found it funny when England beat Slovakia and Southgate kind of took credit for not taking Kane out when he made the game winning goal. My man got so lucky Jude scored a ridiculous goal to save them. Up to that point, Southgate had made one or two subs I believe . Put saka in at leftback, and let Palmer take his spot on the right… and I think that’s it. It amazes me you have a bench that has so many players that could start for so many teams in the euros… but Southgate can’t make those tough choices, and that ultimately destroys them. You’re barely winning against teams you should be dominating , and you’re doing nothing about changing the players. Kane is awesome in his own right, he was absolutely terrible to watch him just walk and get busted up all tourney . You can see the damage Palmer and olie were doing, how they changed the team to make more decisive decisions and play faster, not watch Kane kind of walk around and ask for the ball in the middle of the park
To me it just seems simple. Got the players. England are just reserved. Spain hassled England to the end, didn't give them a chance to play. England collectively didn't hassle, they sat back and let them come. It seems to always happen.
I think it’s a reference to how we play in the Premiership. The high energy and quick tempo, as well as being physically demanding. I don’t agree with that premise, but thought it was worth a mention. I understand that the tournament is straight after a demanding season, but if you can’t lift yourself and dig deep when the going gets tough? I suggest you inform the manager that you’re not capable of the task and don’t even bother to put on an England shirt. No excuse, ever!!!
@@michaelpower4372 I think that’s going a bit far. They played as a team and had a manager who understood how to utilise their strengths. Palmer, Shaw, Kane, Watkins, Bellingham, and others, would all be in the side. I’m not judging their performance during in the restricted role that he imposed upon them.
Southgate absolutely cocked it up, that tournament would of been a lot easier with use of other class players on that bench. 4 4 2 with both Watkins and tony up top would of smashed it.
People criticising managers like it's the same as playing a computer game. They're people who have good and bad days and there's a huge amount of luck involved. Truthfully, England over achieved getting to the final on form, having lost to Iceland before the tournament. So many talented young players for whoever takes on the job next.
if kane was a leader he would of led his team this tournament, I havent actually seen kane do anything all tournament....he scored once goal which was a deflection.
I can't believe that the national team managers in countries such as Italy, Spain, Germany, Argentina and Brazil experience any less pressure from their media than the English team's manager. Gareth Southgate is a good man and a decent coach, but he hasn't got the best out of this gifted group of players, and he is absolutely right to have resigned today.
Bravery would have been playing Rice, Bellingham with Foden as the 10. We didn't see that once. Are you telling me Fabian Ruiz can play next to Rodri, but Bellingham can't play next to Rice? Poor choice of formation and a lack of courage.
Rice playing next to Bellingham won't work they both cannot control the tempo of games and are very good passers. Bellingham has to play next to a player like Rodri which would give him freedom to get forward without worrying about dictating play
Hopefully, the England vs Spain game should be the last we see of Southgate, Kane, Walker, Trippier, Shaw and Pickford representing England ever again. Not good enough !
If these players come in to tournaments too tired from 50-60 game seasons then perhaps we need to start selecting players who have played less games during the season? 🤷🏻♂️
Kanes mentality will be 'well i got joint higest goalscorer in the competition so i think i was pretty good' ive said it all tournament, they are all in a bubble or a cult, if you point out obvious things they go super defensive and play the victim and thing the world is against them. They wont want GS sacked because he guarantees them a starting place. England are so far off it its not even funny, and the FA thinks Southgate can lead us to world cup victory against the likes of Argentina in 2 years, it will be the same thing we have seen for 8 years now.
We were in an extremely weak group which was perfect for rotating. We had the squad for it. Southgate simply didnt have the balls to do it. So many other issues too. Bellingham should have been put in midfield as well, so foden in 10 and Gordon on left
@@ags911 Or maybe we played poorly because we didn't rotate? You telling me Kane couldn't have done with a rest against Slovenia? We have the players for it!
I don't want to labour the point of agonising over this shambles, most of us saw it coming anyway, England had an exceptionally easy draw through this tournament, Southgate has always stunted the chances of the talent at his disposal, as well as always overloading the team with false 10s, and in a way (a big way) I'm content that Southgate's tedious methods have not been vindicated. Dean Ashton is right on the ball in this series of discussions. A simple appraisal for this one game (the final) is that Southgate should have more-or-less started with the changes he made in-play and possibly reverted to square none late on if appropriate. Never took the initiative, never asserted our own game, never broke out of second gear, never proactive, and all because Southgate is the FA's absolute dry dream of a PR mannequin. Also agree somewhat with Adrian's point about cryptic messages. Southgate's too much about awarding himself smug grins for semantic witticisms during media interviews. Go and amuse yourself with a few crossword puzzles, Gareth - let's get a more adventurous manager in who might evoke something of the three lions spirit. Because what we have with Southgate is a parody of that.
They are playing for England not for Southgate . they. should be going out there. to WIN !! with passion and courage.They are chosen and paid to give their ALL
It's a bad vibe around the camp when someone you know is not fit is getting minutes over amazing players sitting on the bench. Watch Watkins interview after the semi.....read between the lines.....he was SICK AND TIRED of watching Kane do nothing while being forced to sit
Has anyone seen Phil Foden? still hasn't been seen since he got off the coach in Berlin last night, if found please return to Stanstead Airport as his friends and family are concerned about his whereabouts.
totally agree with what Dean said, he lacks courage. Should have taken Kane off in the first half of the first game, he clearly won't have been running in training either, so why start him? I also agree he needs runners or use Watkins for that system, but in that system i also would have gone with Gordon and you can swap Saka/Bowen as need be. Tripps on Left was shockin decision, especially when it changed to back 3, that was crying out for Gordon. I would have swapped Foden for Palmer as a starter and I would have let Bellingham play in the 8. Current setup just left players looking lost. he has to go.
Despite Gareth Southgate leading England to four Top Four finishes (UEFA Euro 2020/21, 2024 Runners-Up, 2018-19 UEFA Nations League Third Place, and 2018 FIFA World Cup Fourth Place), the most of ANY England manager, he's a very conservative, gunshy manager which cost England at least one title since winning the 1966 FIFA World Cup. Southgate's successor better have the solid structure at the back while maintaining their attacking style and is willing to take risks. There's an old saying, "Shoot Your Guns. Empty the Chambers. What you have left, let it fly! Why? Because if you lose this final and you still have bullets left in the chamber, you're going to use one on yourself." Southgate did it twice when he was runner-up in UEFA Euro 2020/21 and 2024. The lack of a scoring the second goal first doomed England yet again.
The English are spoiled with the Premier League. The "star" players look like world beaters playing alongside the best foreign talent for their clubs, but when the chips are down they lack the minerals. Just not as good as you think they are....
They also play with amazing managers. Southgate is a terrible manager and would not get a job in the Premier League. He did ok but been manager too long now
I totally agree with what Dean Ashton and Adrian Durham are saying, there absolutely spot on!! Kane needs runnings, Phil Foden, is not a create 10 with no pace, Cole Palmer should of been the 10, I’ve been saying this from the tournament started, it’s like Gareth had no faith in his bench 🤷🏽♂️
Sick of this balloon always blaming Southgate. Why don't the players get more blame. Foden was running around like a 2yr old with a rabbit in headlights. Declan 'I can't hold onto a ball Rice. Bellingham, did nothing except goal against slovakia. Saka wtf kept falling over. Walker, enough said. These clowns aren't as good as you the media say they are. They would have been pumped out in last 16 if other side of draw.
Southgate made $5 million a year, I’m tired of people saying how tough it is to make the decision to leave foden or Bellingham out of a lineup. He is paid to much money to not have the balls to make those decisions when needed!!
it isn't lack of courage with southgate it's incompetence, he just cannot manage, cains was not just tired he was injured so why keep playing him winners win and losers lose and southgate is a loser, the only thing he achieved as a manager was relegation for middlesborough
Southgate is weak. As a man he is weak and pathetic. He has shown it all tournament. His assistant manager got sacked by Crewe! Clueless. From the top. It’s time to get a world class manager to manage these world class players.
Alf Ramsey left Jimmy Greaves out of the final after being injured… the media wanted him back but Ramsey stuck with Geoff Hurst… That was a big decision…
A decent manager would leave ANY player out. Form, not reputation.
This all started when he wouldn't drop Maguire,it's just carried on. So in actual fact ,all the good work he did at the start of his tenure, bringing the team together,picking in form players ,getting media onside. It's all gone,his tenure is a failure! Any one who says he's the most successful,no one else had 4 goes at it! Sir Bobby and Big Tel would of both won something having 4 cracks at it. We'd of played some football at least
@@stevenbarlow7088technically they had a go and didn’t do as well as Southgate. It’s must be said though, the draws have definitely been favourable but ultimately the football has never been good enough. I acc blame the loss to Italy on Southgate as well because picking an 18 yr old Saka to take the 5th pen is bonkers imo.
@HahahahaEnglandUltimate cringe. You actually made an accoun with that name really only shows how bitter you are. F me that is hilariously sad. You made your identity about veing bitter
He did pick on form,no rashford or freakish for gordon, Bowen and foden. But if you don't play them, or a playing style that suits them....then you clearly dont know what your doing, when things don't go right with your favorite players
exactly! drop kane in the final at least for Toney but I'd prefer Watkins
Toney at least holds up , buys you time for runners behind , wins headers, is fresh and fit etc....
Watkins offers pressing, running the channels , runs behind.... was criminal to start kane
Southgate must go.
He's gone.
Your wish is my command 🙂
After 8 years, Southgate will never learn it
Exactly. That final performance was the culmination of 8 years work, yet they looked like they hadnt played together before.
Kane and Foden were certainly depressing!
Even Saka . Great players but flat and boring in this team . Manager didn’t have the balls to change it up .
Yeah, they definitely didn’t press.
Southgate is a TERRIBLE tactician. He’s a nice guy and wants harmony, that’s all
Southgate kept the same underperforming players on the field and drowned with them, instead of making changes when was needed.
You know I'm sure ,correct me if I'm wrong but ,I'm sure we've seen this somewhere before 3 times in particular hahaha
Kane, Captain of England? This tournament, Captain of the Titanic is more appropriate.
@@garywallace5602 and playing injured,, insane
Totally agree
Gareth can't change. He is safety first. He has no tactical nous. He can't improve.
Foden and Bellingham are the new Gerrard and Lampard
Portugal suffered the same fate. When you keep a player like Ronaldo or Kane in the team it is at the detriment to everyone else. The legs have gone, they are not sharp, cannot press, or make runs off defenders. You have no outlet, no control in the final third, no means to wrestle back control. Both Southgate and the Portugal manager have paid the price for blind loyalty to underperforming players. Kane has never been a leader, he is not a winner, and cannot motivate or lead by example. He's not selfless enough to rule himself out like he should have for the good of the team, the same thing happened in the Spurs Champions League final. He never turns up in big games and despite all his England goals, has he scored any iconic ones when we really needed it? Has he scored from nowhere without service? Has he carried the team when we needed him? There is a reason he hasn't won anything or been anywhere in the voting for global sporting awards.
He scored a nice goal against Saudi Arabia once. Popped it in. The Saudi Arabian goalie tried to reach it, but couldn't quite get there.
Kane clearly had a foot injury which is why he was avoiding anything that would involve a tackle. But Southgate has always been starstruck and picks the big name players, no matter how out of form they are, which is why new talent (Gordon, Palmer) finds it almost impossible to get into Southgate's team.
Dean Ashton ….spot on…..he knows his craft…….and highlights exactly what we all thought……
Overhyped league, overhyped players and overhyped management. Just reality against quality players and management
20-year old Bellingham, telling the coach how to coach... not surprised
Eddie howe is the man... on the front foot vibrant attacking manager with free flowing direct football and an eye on defence also
Not brave enough to make those calls, that will always cost you, starting with Watkins and Palmer needs balls !
Common sense more like .
They were a threat every time they were on the pitch unlike his favourites who were toothless the whole tournament
Doesn't even need balls! The country was crying out for it!!
@@djlevinyl1 Yes it does need balls and Gareth did not have them !!
Talk about big decisions, Alf Ramsey didn’t include the best striker in the world Jimmy Greaves in the final because Geoff Hurst and Roger Hunt were preferred even though they couldn’t lace Jimmys boots. It was the team and the result that counted most. Jimmy never really got over it but that’s what managing is about
Subject change (sorry)...
Have you watched the '66' final recently... And found it fookin agonising when there's no replays!!!
Blink and you miss it!
Jimmy Greaves was injured and there was was only 50/50 chance he would last the whole match . Alf Ramsey also saw the chemistry between Hurst, Hunt, Peters & Bobby Charlton.
@@markjones-gu2fj Thanks for the reply , I think in subsequent interviews Jimmy said he was fit but one of the big decisions was that one of the great players of his time Bobby Charlton didn’t allow Beckenbuer to play. A very overlooked subject.
I also think we would have defended it in Mexico had Bonetti not dived over an easy one. We missed Banksy when we needed him.
Kane's not as good at international level as lots of people think. If you look back at the teams he's scored against as well as dozens of spot kicks it backs this up.
Southgate has clearly mismanaged the England team and was outcoached pretty much the entire tournament. He made the players look bad through poor team selection, bad tactics, and bad substitutions.
Spot on 👌
He has been out coached for 8 years ..... every time he comes up againstca proper Coach he loses
And you can bet the FA will try to persuade him to stay on like they did after the last WC . He imo will leave because he can't handle the criticism which he has again imo deserved. Goning forward i honestly can't see any team in the top half of the premier league wanting Southgate as there manager .
I would love to see an interview with Adrian Durham and Gareth Southgate because Adrian will actually ask the questions we want asked!
He didn't utilise the whole squad, players should have been rested
You dont keep injured players on when you have a squad of players to choose from.
A manager actually manages. No idea from Southgate.
Palmer and Watkins should have been brought into the game early part of the game. I don’t understand why Gareth kept them on the bench for so long when a player like Kane was not performing. The result could have been different. We had our chance.
Pundits telling stories from all angles … let go of Southgate and hire an Englishman that has the balls to not play favourites all the time
Durham was sucking gatey off all tourney now they lost he’s talking different. We been screaming this 4+ years ago fella.
England must keep away from. Another Mr nice Guy.. Let's concentrate on winning tactical managers instead
The FA just want a woke box ticker though.
@@thewomble1509Agreed, even the starting line up has become a popularity contest. Watching Bellingham and Foden play left wing is just unforgivable. Palmer should be absolutely fuming. This was his tournament for the taking.
Yes but the FA Blazers don't want their trips and junkets affected by any controversy so they want a PC England Manager
The FA want a yes man who will do as he's told that's why managers like Mourinho , Ancelotti, Klopp, Pep will never be England manager as they will rock the boat.
Final group game start with Gordon, Watkins Bowen with Palmer behind Trent right back to find them. Any premiere league side would start with that line up but apparently couldn’t risk it against Slovenia. Resting players
So who would you drop for Bowen?
He’s got the golden boot 🤣🤣 honestly at this point the Euros has become theatre more than football for the masses
He came joint 6th in the golden boot competition with an undeserved penalty and having played the most games. No-one should congratulate Harry on his golden boot before first congratulating the other 5 players.
Southgate never seemed to be a good man manager and a game strageist compared to other coaches. This team will play much better football under some other premier league coaches.
The way we play is not suited for Kane . That game should have seen Watkins start and bring Kane on at the substitution time in the 2nd half for his experience. We needed energy up from to make their defence work
And that's why Bellingham must be made England captain! I don't ever want to see Foden in the side over Palmer again. The biggest waste of talent I've ever seen. Southgate should be sacked already.
This clown set up to sit back and play on the break, with no runners! Watkins and Gordon in for Foden and Kane if he wants to play like that! Did neither, biggest waste of space in world football!
Any half-decent European manager except Martinez , would have dropped Foden and Kane. 100% . Southgate, bless him , is not an Alpha manager...
Kane wasnt fit and couldnt press. Foden thinks hes a maverick and wont press. I'd have taken Kane off after half and hour.
I wouldn’t have played him at all🤷🏼♂️
Imagine what these pundits would be saying if he'd started without either Bellingham, Foden or Kane and England still lost. Do you think they'd be balanced, reasonable and respectful of the 'courage' of a decision like that? They'd be spitting feathers in disbelief he'd left them out when they've been so in form for their clubs all season. Absolute mastery of hindsight on display in this clip!
Standard Procedure from the 'know it all' crew....
Palmer had earnt more minutes in my humble opinion,
He (like Mainoo) should have been starting by the time they got to the knockout stage.
Coulda/Shoulda given Phil or Jude more rest.
(I know.... I did my 'know it all' impression).😉
Cant win either way but had he done that and won they would of also shut up and lost all creditbility you got to take risks in life
Anyone saying you can’t leave a player out for the good of the team is clueless about how football really works. Anyone can get benched if they’re consistently playing shite lool it’s just common sense.
Let’s get one thing right… HARRY KANE IS NOT A LEADER. Never has been never will be.
When you have a pool of players like England has at their disposal, you have to have the balls to make these decisions man. Everyone can see Kane was busted up, barely running, barely touching the ball. Kane is an elite talent, a guy who can create and score in his sleep.. ain’t calling him trash at all. But he was horrendous this tournament, every game barely touching the ball, dropping deep for now reason instead of stretching the pitch, getting behind , etc. they’re not wrong, can’t press well when you striker is chilling the whole time. I found it funny when England beat Slovakia and Southgate kind of took credit for not taking Kane out when he made the game winning goal. My man got so lucky Jude scored a ridiculous goal to save them. Up to that point, Southgate had made one or two subs I believe . Put saka in at leftback, and let Palmer take his spot on the right… and I think that’s it. It amazes me you have a bench that has so many players that could start for so many teams in the euros… but Southgate can’t make those tough choices, and that ultimately destroys them. You’re barely winning against teams you should be dominating , and you’re doing nothing about changing the players. Kane is awesome in his own right, he was absolutely terrible to watch him just walk and get busted up all tourney . You can see the damage Palmer and olie were doing, how they changed the team to make more decisive decisions and play faster, not watch Kane kind of walk around and ask for the ball in the middle of the park
it's infuriating isn't it?
To me it just seems simple. Got the players. England are just reserved. Spain hassled England to the end, didn't give them a chance to play. England collectively didn't hassle, they sat back and let them come. It seems to always happen.
Need to play Wharton for one and stop playing Kane. Pickford also not a modern style keeper.
Im not even an England fan yet i was shouting at the tv whenever Pickford would boot the ball up the pitch for no reason
He did the same against Denmark. England have some players that are like players from the 90s. Need to start Ramsdale. Very good distribution
England players where tired and the rest of euro players were resting all year???
I know right. Our players are vastly overpaid and overrated
I think it’s a reference to how we play in the Premiership. The high energy and quick tempo, as well as being physically demanding.
I don’t agree with that premise, but thought it was worth a mention. I understand that the tournament is straight after a demanding season, but if you can’t lift yourself and dig deep when the going gets tough? I suggest you inform the manager that you’re not capable of the task and don’t even bother to put on an England shirt.
No excuse, ever!!!
Excuses Excuses Excuses. None of the English players would get into the Spanish team.
@@michaelpower4372 I think that’s going a bit far. They played as a team and had a manager who understood how to utilise their strengths. Palmer, Shaw, Kane, Watkins, Bellingham, and others, would all be in the side. I’m not judging their performance during in the restricted role that he imposed upon them.
Every player on that pitch should be a leader …!
Southgate absolutely cocked it up, that tournament would of been a lot easier with use of other class players on that bench.
4 4 2 with both Watkins and tony up top would of smashed it.
You have forgotton how much room william was given !!!! He had so much room you could build a housing estate in there
Sure Adrian Durham has periods, slates people for slating Southgate then slates Southgate himself
He’s just a typical hack with too much airtime and a limited knowledge of football.
mate, I thought I was in the twilight zone
If we had stolen another undeserved win on Sunday, he would have been calling him a genius
People criticising managers like it's the same as playing a computer game. They're people who have good and bad days and there's a huge amount of luck involved. Truthfully, England over achieved getting to the final on form, having lost to Iceland before the tournament. So many talented young players for whoever takes on the job next.
Give it a rest with the Rashford and Sterling talk, they had terrible seasons, and didn't deserve to be there over those who went.
At last someone saying this except for others looking through Rose tinted glasses
Kane's international career is over
No
Why, because he tried to play through a back injury tor a month? He was injured, fully fit he’s still our best ST by a distance
@@DannyTaylorDT then he should have done the decent thing and stepped aside. selfish. not very good. loser.
if kane was a leader he would of led his team this tournament, I havent actually seen kane do anything all tournament....he scored once goal which was a deflection.
I can't believe that the national team managers in countries such as Italy, Spain, Germany, Argentina and Brazil experience any less pressure from their media than the English team's manager. Gareth Southgate is a good man and a decent coach, but he hasn't got the best out of this gifted group of players, and he is absolutely right to have resigned today.
He has always been out of his depth. One of the worst managers I've ever seen at this level.
Bravery would have been playing Rice, Bellingham with Foden as the 10. We didn't see that once. Are you telling me Fabian Ruiz can play next to Rodri, but Bellingham can't play next to Rice?
Poor choice of formation and a lack of courage.
Rice playing next to Bellingham won't work they both cannot control the tempo of games and are very good passers. Bellingham has to play next to a player like Rodri which would give him freedom to get forward without worrying about dictating play
Hopefully, the England vs Spain game should be the last we see of Southgate, Kane, Walker, Trippier, Shaw and Pickford representing England ever again. Not good enough !
Don't include Shaw in this
Hahaha ridiculous that hes won a golden boot, should be a set of wellies
Southgate… Pathetic & weak
Kane… embarrassing & finished
Dropped are best ball holder in grealish! Absolutely mental.
Why isn't the show live on CZcams
Sack Southgate no idea
England lost because Southgate totally bottled it. It’s been clear all tournament that Kane wasn’t fit. Should never have started that final
If these players come in to tournaments too tired from 50-60 game seasons then perhaps we need to start selecting players who have played less games during the season? 🤷🏻♂️
Why do they not give the job to Mr. know it all Durham
Kanes mentality will be 'well i got joint higest goalscorer in the competition so i think i was pretty good' ive said it all tournament, they are all in a bubble or a cult, if you point out obvious things they go super defensive and play the victim and thing the world is against them. They wont want GS sacked because he guarantees them a starting place. England are so far off it its not even funny, and the FA thinks Southgate can lead us to world cup victory against the likes of Argentina in 2 years, it will be the same thing we have seen for 8 years now.
They keep saying Kanes record speaks for itself but how many his goals have been penalties or scored against Panama and the like?
I'd love to hear what Bellingham really thought about the tournament and Southgate.
I hope there isn’t going to be a split in the team now between the Foden-Kane camp and the rest
We were in an extremely weak group which was perfect for rotating. We had the squad for it. Southgate simply didnt have the balls to do it. So many other issues too. Bellingham should have been put in midfield as well, so foden in 10 and Gordon on left
Still went life and death every game. 8 goals in 7 games. You don’t have the luxury of rotating when you are playing poorly against weak opposition.
@@ags911 Or maybe we played poorly because we didn't rotate? You telling me Kane couldn't have done with a rest against Slovenia? We have the players for it!
I don't want to labour the point of agonising over this shambles, most of us saw it coming anyway, England had an exceptionally easy draw through this tournament, Southgate has always stunted the chances of the talent at his disposal, as well as always overloading the team with false 10s, and in a way (a big way) I'm content that Southgate's tedious methods have not been vindicated.
Dean Ashton is right on the ball in this series of discussions. A simple appraisal for this one game (the final) is that Southgate should have more-or-less started with the changes he made in-play and possibly reverted to square none late on if appropriate. Never took the initiative, never asserted our own game, never broke out of second gear, never proactive, and all because Southgate is the FA's absolute dry dream of a PR mannequin.
Also agree somewhat with Adrian's point about cryptic messages. Southgate's too much about awarding himself smug grins for semantic witticisms during media interviews. Go and amuse yourself with a few crossword puzzles, Gareth - let's get a more adventurous manager in who might evoke something of the three lions spirit. Because what we have with Southgate is a parody of that.
As soon as I saw Luke Shaw starting, I knew right away we would lose. He's a Holding player.
They are playing for England not for Southgate . they. should be going out there. to WIN !! with passion and courage.They are chosen and paid to give their ALL
Correct
You won't get that without native players playing for their country though amd homogeneity. That is just the simple facts of human races
If Kane knew he was unfit he should have spoken up.
It's a bad vibe around the camp when someone you know is not fit is getting minutes over amazing players sitting on the bench. Watch Watkins interview after the semi.....read between the lines.....he was SICK AND TIRED of watching Kane do nothing while being forced to sit
The guy talking about Morata is spot on!
Has anyone seen Phil Foden? still hasn't been seen since he got off the coach in Berlin last night, if found please return to Stanstead Airport as his friends and family are concerned about his whereabouts.
Foden had a terrible tournament along with Kane & Bellingham. Why we never gave more minutes to Palmer & Gordon is baffling
Southgate…..Should he stay or should he go now?
Bloody hell the entitlement is appalling. Who do we think we are! Spain were better than us
Southgate kept making the same mistake over and over and over for years
totally agree with what Dean said, he lacks courage. Should have taken Kane off in the first half of the first game, he clearly won't have been running in training either, so why start him? I also agree he needs runners or use Watkins for that system, but in that system i also would have gone with Gordon and you can swap Saka/Bowen as need be. Tripps on Left was shockin decision, especially when it changed to back 3, that was crying out for Gordon. I would have swapped Foden for Palmer as a starter and I would have let Bellingham play in the 8. Current setup just left players looking lost. he has to go.
Despite Gareth Southgate leading England to four Top Four finishes (UEFA Euro 2020/21, 2024 Runners-Up, 2018-19 UEFA Nations League Third Place, and 2018 FIFA World Cup Fourth Place), the most of ANY England manager, he's a very conservative, gunshy manager which cost England at least one title since winning the 1966 FIFA World Cup.
Southgate's successor better have the solid structure at the back while maintaining their attacking style and is willing to take risks.
There's an old saying, "Shoot Your Guns. Empty the Chambers. What you have left, let it fly! Why? Because if you lose this final and you still have bullets left in the chamber, you're going to use one on yourself."
Southgate did it twice when he was runner-up in UEFA Euro 2020/21 and 2024.
The lack of a scoring the second goal first doomed England yet again.
Foden & Kane not pressing.
The English are spoiled with the Premier League. The "star" players look like world beaters playing alongside the best foreign talent for their clubs, but when the chips are down they lack the minerals.
Just not as good as you think they are....
They also play with amazing managers. Southgate is a terrible manager and would not get a job in the Premier League. He did ok but been manager too long now
Absolutely 👍
You could hear Bellingham yelling for about 10 minutes to Southgate to bring on subs against the Netherlands.
Weird they didn't show that on tv.
We can’t play with Foden and Kane and expect to press it’s a joke
I totally agree with what Dean Ashton and Adrian Durham are saying, there absolutely spot on!! Kane needs runnings, Phil Foden, is not a create 10 with no pace, Cole Palmer should of been the 10, I’ve been saying this from the tournament started, it’s like Gareth had no faith in his bench 🤷🏽♂️
Sick of this balloon always blaming Southgate.
Why don't the players get more blame. Foden was running around like a 2yr old with a rabbit in headlights. Declan 'I can't hold onto a ball Rice. Bellingham, did nothing except goal against slovakia. Saka wtf kept falling over. Walker, enough said.
These clowns aren't as good as you the media say they are. They would have been pumped out in last 16 if other side of draw.
A 2 year old with a rabbit in headlights 😂😂
They were doing what they were told to do,
@@darrensaquaticsworldthey werent told to play sh1t😆u can only blame the manager for so much
Just change the new manager.
Ps All the English players are very good world class. Leave them alone.
@@bubblenugget777
You can blame the manager for keeping the underperforming players on the pitch though.
Its southgate’s fault fully.
Imagine bringing a team with that squad depth and not using them. Southgate is a league 2 manager managing an international team
Every time I hear Adrian Durham he is just moaning and bitching, massive melt
Southgate made $5 million a year, I’m tired of people saying how tough it is to make the decision to leave foden or Bellingham out of a lineup. He is paid to much money to not have the balls to make those decisions when needed!!
Kane was picked on reputation alone
It doesn't take courage, it takes professionalism.
it isn't lack of courage with southgate it's incompetence, he just cannot manage, cains was not just tired he was injured so why keep playing him
winners win and losers lose and southgate is a loser, the only thing he achieved as a manager was relegation for middlesborough
Southgate is weak.
As a man he is weak and pathetic.
He has shown it all tournament.
His assistant manager got sacked by Crewe!
Clueless.
From the top.
It’s time to get a world class manager to manage these world class players.
Southgate was out of his depth managing the players he had to manage. His level is probably League One at best.
Was this video taken down and uploaded again or something? Strangest deja vu feeling right now..
This mug last week wanted Southgate to get a new contract
Alf Ramsey left Jimmy Greaves out of the final after being injured… the media wanted him back but Ramsey stuck with Geoff Hurst…
That was a big decision…
Dean Ashton talks a lot of sense - bravery to fit the wealth of talent into a coherent plan
He took England as far as he could and then ran out of ideas.
Southgate is like grandmother. So nice. He should be kindergarden teacher not a manager.
This is big!! Bellingham screaming at Southgate that 2 teams mates are not ‘pressing’ enough!!