The big studded MTB tyre review - on ice edition
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- TIMESTAMPS
Braking test 3:27
Uphill test 6:12
Icy roads/trails 8:11
Flat vs pointed studs 11:05
Final scores and conclusion 13:28
TIRES BEING TESTED
45Nrth Wrathchild 29x2.6
45Nrth Wrathchild 27.5x2.8
45Nrth Nicotine 29x2.35
Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro 27.5x2.6 - amzn.to/2TOc630
Suomi Fat Freddie 27.5x3.0
reTyre Ice Racer 29x2.0
retyre Winter Traveler 29x2.35 - www.retyre.co/products/winter...
BIKES USED IN THIS TEST
2018 Ghost Teru Hybride 2.9 (black and yellow hardtail 29er)
2019 Specialized Levo Comp Carbon (red fullsuspension 29er)
2020 Merida eOne-Sixty 8000 (grey full suspension mixed wheelsizes)
2020 Orbea Wild FS H25 (grey full suspension 29er) - Sport
You really deserve a lot of kudos for this video because it was a huge Endeavor to study all these tires and take the personal risk of testing them!
I'm sure you spent many hours getting the testing done and making the video. I'm extremely impressed with this and I hope it helps a lot of people.
I rode on my ice spiker pro’s for 6 winters and last summer the whole summer and ride to work five days a week and the tips were still!!! Sharp!!!
Thats some serious bullshit right there. LOL
Scientist ! Congratulations on the test! Well done. Lots of effort and work!
Excellent work. My 3.0 Wrathchilds get ridden on tarmac to and from the traIlhead. 3 years old and 500 km and have lost only a few studs. The concave studs are self sharpening as they wear.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm truly inspired to slap some wrathchilds on my turbo levo this winter. I cant keep waiting to ride!!
Good news for you - Suomi Tyres lives. There is a new entrepreneur and manufacturing continues.
Hurray! May their studs be longer than before!
Thank you for doing this video. Even though it's a couple years old the information about the studs is still relevant. March of 2021 I started cycling, as a senior citizen, I now ride 18- 25 miles per ride 4-6 days a week and one week ago went 50 miles in 4 hours. I call myself a cycling dork and want to ride this winter here in Michigan USA. Now I need to figure out how to save my components from road salt.
I never get these sorts of conditions where I live, but I still really enjoyed this analysis. Wish we had some snow, I love the idea of making my own studded tyres, even though the rolling resistance on my acoustic bike would be brutal!
This is a fantastic informational video!
Great test video.
I read in the local news that a company called Lieksa Tyres Oy bought Nokia Tyres factory and immaterial rights and have begun producing tyres again last November.
In the article I read, the production capacity of Nokia tyres is said to be around 100,000 tyres per year and they also plan on beginning to make tyres for summer use in the future.
Pick it up my 2.6 wrath child's for a turbo levo tomorrow😁😁😁😁😁
@@graysquirreltreeservice7299 i returned my 2.6 wrath last week to my retailer and got full refund after 2 month use . I lost all! studs in the middelrow on the backtire ..just had wrath on the back ..must say normal use….. so got my ice spiker from last season back again ...where i lost 1stud
I would agree with your findings regarding flat vs. pointed studs.
Over several winters riding in the Canadian north with Schwalbe Ice Spiker tires, I discovered that the later generation of the Ice Spiker Pro with flat studs does not offer the same amount of lateral grip as the previous generation of the same tire with pointed studs. The flat-studded rear tire would fish-tail on clean ice, an unsettling feeling and something I did not experience with Ice Spiker Pros with pointed studs.
Great video content. Thanks
Great job on this video!
Forst of all - Kudos for a great review of so many different studded tires! Great job!
Guys, favour to ask. Could you measure the height of ice spiker pro 27.5x2.6 when seated on a rim and inflated? Interested in height from edgd of the rim to topmost part of the tire!
Excellent video. Thanks for your efforts. I just bought a 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo HT. I only have a few rides on it on compacted snow, soft ice and 10cm of powder snow. I’ve just been riding with the Ground Control 29 x 2.3 no studs. Setting it up next week with Wrathchild 27.5 x 3” which should significantly improve my ride.
How did you end up liking you Wrathchild studded tires?? I got a turbo levo too and am going to do the same as you
@@suhwateezea.214 I really like the Wrathchilds. They work well on icy trails. Lately I’ve been riding groomed fat bike trails. When the trails have been groomed and given time to freeze up, the tires work great. If the trails are soft the 3” tires don’t cut it very well. In those conditions my buddies on fat bikes with 4 to 5” tires are doing much better.
@@madeyemoodey9633 thanks for the reply. I'm hoping to pick some up today at a local shop if available. The conditions near DC are absolutely perfect for ice riding. We got about 3" of snow with a think frozen layer on top
Very informative, thank you
I live in Norway and i couldn't bike but now I can after getting studded tyres.
kudos indeed, thank you very much for this video!
Tusen takk.
Bare hyggelig (:
Thanks for the test!)
Great informational video! Too bad I never need to have studded tires because it's rare that I would ever go in snow in San Diego :-) ...but sometimes we have snow in the mountains here.
I had Schwalbe WInter, the cheapest kind, on my bike this winter. It's been VERY icy, and they were unsafe. But on cold creaky snow they were very nice. I'd say they would be perfect for places with black ice or really cold climate.
Schwalbe offer tyres with different types of types of studs. I believe the Ice Spiker came with flat tip studs and the Ice Spiker Pro comes with pointed studs. The difference on ice was significant, I really don't like the flat studs. I believe the (Marathon?) Winter only comes with flat studs. The 45Nrth Gravdal with hollow tip studs could seems better for ice, but I haven't ridden them. Ice grip should be much better if you could fit a 2.1" mtb tyre, like the Ice Spiker Pro.
I have Ice Spiker Pro Performance (not Evo) bought 2019 with flat studs. Maybe only the Evos have pointy studs?
Mileage 700+ km on e-mtb with lots of tarmac. Studs visibly pushed in, but hopefully they're as deep as they can go and will keep this grip for several winters.
Zero lost studs, maybe thanks to bedding them in properly 50 km on tarmac with very careful braking. Handled some skid-braking on ice.
Putting 29x2,6" Wrathchild on my watchlist =)
Ah nvm. Found scary reports of Wrathchild losing 50-70 studs on the first ride. I'll just stick to the thing that works.
Can often find Ice Spiker Pros on sale for 60€ each. Doubt Wrathchild will go that low.
I have a set of Wrathchild 29 x 2.6 on my Levo. What air pressure do you recommend?
Great test, thanks for doing this! The 45 north wraith looks nice, especially due to the width in 29 version compared to the ice spiker, but I see a lot of customer rivews of these tyres loosing a lot of studs. Like, all reviews on the manufacturer website. What is your experience with the long term quality of the studs? (I saw you had a stud fitting video so I guess you've seen a bit of the issue)
@@EMTBVideos thank you for the response. Seems poor quality that it is even necessary to "break in" tyres. 🤔
I'm surprised that studs coming loose seems an issue at all. My old winter tyres from year back during university time was on all year round due to lazyness and they took me everywhere and never lost a stud. To be true, I was not riding single track and had no emtb either, but also not very expensive tyres.
Oh well, I'll look into the others you mentioned, it might be something. I intend to use them also (maybe mostly) for bare ground, I would like metal studs since my home trails are like mostly roots covered with more roots, and when that gets wet, it gets precarious... 😅
Commenting on myself in case someone else sees this: I ended up getting the Pikkisikka 29x2,6 and they are great! I run them on ice, snow, mud, rock and wet roots and have not lost a single stud yet after several hard rides. No breaking in of the studs needed.
Considering they are the test winners in your newer test, I'd say they are a solid recommendation to anyone running 29 ers.
I'm planning to ride this winter and my commute includes 10% of tarmac (usually never with ice) and the rest is on a trail with packet snow (again usually no ice).
My e-bike has a hub motor and the rim is 27.5. I was planning to buy reTyre that is just launching the 27.5 skins these weeks BUT I see here that the Winter Traveler does not perform that good and they're not making the Ice Racer for 27.5.
So my other option would be Wrathchild but my rim supports up to 2.25" widths... So I'm out of luck? The Ice Spiker Pro (2.25 version) was the initial option but only do you imagine changing the tire every other day when studs are not needed with a hub motor? A nightmare.
Maybe I should just risk it with the Winter Traveler. I'm scared of no studs in the corners honestly.
@@EMTBVideos Hi thanks. I won't be riding on loose snow for sure. It's either a gravel covered in snow that's been pressed by a snow cat (this can became a little bit hard o icy on some spots, usually beginning or late winter) or tarmac with just a layer of snow and possible black ice.
I never measured the inner rim width, isn't there a problem also the the spacing between the frame and tire? Since weather can vary I honestly would have liked to change tires with reTyre as I wished.
Anyway thanks I'll try to take a decision eventually.
Have you had a change to try the zip version of the Ice Racer? Not sure if it changes anything.
Hi, great comparison. I think I will go for Ice Spiker Pro. I thought of buying replacement studs, the aluminum based ones that come with the tires according to Schwalbe customer support. I need the stud tool and the Schwalbe one comes with steel spikes in a set that I do not need. The 45 NRTH stud tool is the same price as the Schwalbe set. It looks more ergonomic and better overall. Is it better than the one from Schwalbe? Will the 45 NRTH stud tool fit Schwalbe alu based spikes?
@@EMTBVideos Thanks! Yeah, that’s a good idea, there is no such video on CZcams. From your answer, I understand that the 45 NRTH tool will fit the Schwalbe pointed studs on the Ice Spiker Pro and is a better solution, right?
@@EMTBVideos thanks, good. In that case, I will order the 45 NRTH tool, as it is the same price as the Schwalbe set, with flat steel studs that I do not need. Looking forward to your stud/stud tool video:)
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I have schwalbe ice spiker pros, they're great until the studs rip out I've put less than 1k miles on them but they already have like 25 studs ripping out.
They should be in steel bodies not studs in aluminum bodies, their reason is "to save weight", which is ridiculous, the focus should be on durability
Are the studs being ripped out of the alloy socket? I've had that happen like twice. Usually, it's the entire stud being ripped out of the rubber knobs. That's just how it is with studded bike tyres. Some will glue the studs to avoid having them ripped out. I always buy spare studs and just replace them as they disappear. As the tyres get older, the rubber tends to get harder and hold on to the studs more firmly.