Atmospheric River - Chaos on I80 in California - Heavy Snow - Stuck Truckers - Winter Storm
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- čas přidán 29. 03. 2023
- Another crazy #winter #storm hits #california and #snow creates havoc for #travel in the #sierra. #truckers getting stuck on #i80 along with #cars and #trucks. Cars sliding on icy roads, Caltran and #plows pushing semis. The video was all shot in #nevada county near #sodasprings #truckee and #donner #pass area.
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A big thank you to all of the truckers out there that keep our supplies moving in all sorts of weather!
It’s ridiculous how much of the economy is in the backs of those trucks
I was amazed at how many trucks had the trailers chained up. Something you never saw on Ice Road truckers. Good on them and shame on Ice Road truckers.
@@gregyoungman where else would they be?
@@TheLittlered1961 Ice road truckers was fake bullcrap
Thanks for another great video B. I live 3000 miles from this and even I can't wait for warmer weather there. And God bless the truck drivers who are trying so hard to get us the products and food that we depend on.
An SUV trying to pull out an 18-wheeler! That's the height of hubris.
I have many unhappy memories getting across Donner Pass..So glad I'm retired. Carry on, guys!
I am semi tired , its good to carry on .
Looks like my old Beat on Donner Summit. I worked that hill for 18 years and had a blast!!
I used to drive from California to North Dakota and I do not miss those days😮🌫️❄️🌬️💨🌪️🌀🌨️
Hello dear friend, my father used to drive the end dump for many years and eventually he retired twenty years ago, totally, truck driving is one of most difficult jobs in the world, not only in the United states or our country, Iran
And I forgot to say that I have been driving the trucks for ten years but now I have quit or abandoned it since last year
7:50 Unsure why someone would want to ruin a late model Ford Expedition trying to tow a loaded semi?
even worse, that's a GMC Denali. Guy thinks he's a hero, wait until he gets his repair bill.
Cuz he has hair on his back
Thinking same thing. Fancy edition too, what are they now? 80k or something. Pulling a loaded semi with a luxury SUV.....???
With a chain no less...I was waiting for the back window to explode.
@@MikeCris and the jerking…not a kinetic strap/rope
❤ notice how the person with tire chains went around everyone 😂😂😂
Spinning the wheels hysterically on ice is a certain way to get stuck.
Chains are dangerous for that, they don't stretch much but they still hold a lot of energy. Those tow points are only really for low energy towing of the vehicle, not for hitting 80,000 pounds hanging on the end of a chain. If you are going to do a kinetic recovery, hitting the pull with some speed on, you need a kinetic recovery rope. Yankum, or something similar. Ratchet straps and chains have so little stretch at breaking point that they can easily break because the force needed to stop a 4 ton SUV in half an inch is extremely high.
Цепь может порваться и прилететь по голове тому человеку который там прыгал 😊
How embarrassing that the guy in the white Ford didnt even know how to use his 4wheel drive!
It's a Ford driver what can you expect 😂
Looks like it didn't help much
He should have been in 4wd before running off the road.
4WD is like a brain.
You have to use it correctly to solve your problem.
You have to get out and lock in the hubs
Its embarrassing watching grown men in 4 wheel drive trucks trying SSSOOOO hard to get going in 2 wheel drive... and remember ICE IS ICE, not even 8 wheel drive will work! Get out, put chains on BEFORE you hurt someone...
Ya, everybody should be on the interstate in this weather with no chains.
But but, their worn out tires with the snow peak on the sidewall said they could go ( which I doubt some had anyway, summer time California slicks instead ), but they had that sticker on the side of the vehicle "4x4", oh yeah 😆
Trying to pull a truck with a tie down strap, I bet it left a nice dent in the back of that new Suburban.
No wonder shipping has been so bad the entire state of Ca. has seen record storms come in & just getting to work has become an adventure.
This represents a small minority of the state in general except I-80 is a major artery for trucking in particular, they can spend extra day going around the Sierras to avoid this.
I’m going to be 62, this year and I remember the big snow storm of 1975 in Illinois that’s where I was living at that time. I’ve been through a trip to Mohawk MI, and we got over 6 feet of snow in five days. But this winter has been crazy out west ☃️❄️☃️❄️☃️❄️
Really really crazy weather everywhere, tornadoes & earthquakes too! 😢
30 years ago Al Gore said “ our children won’t know what snow is “
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When has Al Gore been right?
Not 30 years ago, and not yesterday......
And not in Florida with his hanging chads in 2020.....
Oh no, not Big Al, the election denier... not again.........
That people would try driving on this stuff without chains is stupid beyond belief.
7:36 Hold on, where they really using tie downs as a recovery strap?
yes... yes they were! 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032They are watching too many commercials😅😅
Sometimes it only takes a little plus the tow vehicle can't pull hard anyway in these conditions.
I’ve been pulled a couple times in my truck empty and worked better than I thought. Had doubts about that suburban but it helped. Lol. Good on you guys.
Clint had it right. “Man’s just got to know his limitations.”
Weight in the back in form of sand bags and burlap . Throw in some cardboard , boards and put chains on tires.
I can't imagine. I appreciate the truckers trying to do their jobs, but don't they ever just watch the weather and park it somewhere and wait? I can't imagine why anyone would drive into that.
As a truck driver, I can tell you why. If the wheels on your truck are not turning, you are not making money. Thirty-one years of driving a truck, chaining up in weather like this, taking it slow and easy, gets you to your delivery safely. But, today's truck drivers are not trained for properly & safely driving in snow and ice. Too many untrained new drivers out here.
Time is money out on the road. 0 income when you're parked, delivery appointments rescheduled for a day or two puts you behind..
@@trixielatouche7180 I understand, but when you end up in a miles-long line of stationary vehicles, your wheels are not turning.
They prob. Didn't get accurite info on how bad it was..?
These truck drivers should have been chained up or waited below the chain check. On the western slope of I-80 they usually hold them up at Applegate during bigger storms.
What made the guy in the SUV Think it was a good Idea to pull a loaded Semi on a snowy road?!? Asking for a friend 😅.
Must have been a nice ice pack. Even the trucks with chains seemed to be stuck in places
A lot of 6% grade involved don't forget, doesn't take much to get into serious trouble. That road goes from a few hundred ft alt to around 8k in fairly short distance.
@@Mrbfgray Thank you for the added info.
@@Mrbfgray I'm scared driving on that stretch on dry roads 😅
@@bchlvr645 Nah...so city freeway like it's boring, there are some excellent 'parallel' twisty alternatives for fun tho.
I used to get a sore back driving 4 cyl. mini pickups over due to having throttle foot buried in the floor board so long, seriously. Now I do sports cars instead. HA! But I have to avoid snow entirely.
@@Mrbfgray I learned to drive on mountain roads and I agree city freeways are so boring 🥱 I was a true speed racer back in my day 😆 but I'll never get over my fear of that part of I-80 that drops so fast right in the middle of a turn and semi's on your tail and on all sides yikes! 🙈
buddy in the white ford in the clip around 2 minutes had a 4wheel drive truck the whole time and maybe even rear lockers and didnt appear to use any of it for way too long
There are likely to be some ski resorts that remain open into June. There's likely to be significant flooding during the spring runoff, particularly if there is a period of above normal temps with warm rain. This isn't just Cali as my home in Utah is facing similar problems this spring. I don't know if Lake Powell and Lake Mead will get anywhere near full pool, I kind of doubt it, so even with all this snow we are still going to be below average levels for Powell and Mead.
Lake Powell is currently at 22% of full pool and is only 1.5 feet higher than the low point which was just a couple weeks ago. Lake Mead is actually 15 feet below where it was last year at this time. The watershed area for the Colorado has seen some rain this winter but not as much as Cali has and the deficit is so great it could take a few years of weather like this to fix.
Deliberate drawdowns.
@@phillippinson5333 California consumes the largest share of the Colorado River water and feeding that bottomless pit has indeed drawn down both Lake Mead and Lake Powell. I suspect they will consume less of it this year but then again the farmers will consume every single drop they can get away with.
I read in The Colorado Sun (I think) that the expectation is that Lake Powell should rise a bit by September but Lake Mead will still be very low. It probably would take 5-10 of these of winters to refill both lakes, if not longer. I hope that the Colorado River basin states realize this is just a one year pause and everyone still needs to come up with a long term solution under the assumption that there'll be drought conditions most years.
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I'm a Colorado native and veteran of many winter mountain pass crossings. All I can say is "Wow, that's some generally horrible conditions". Makes me glad to be in southern AZ nowadays.
The guy in the white SUV should get an Award! And a sponsorship from the SUV Company! Bravo!
Gotta love ice nothing moves hate it Thank you for the video it's a reminder that I hate winter and snow
I m so happy to find this tutorial. It's working for me. Thank you for sharing
The first of spring was 10 days ago. The earth ain't warming folks. Since 2007 the sun entered a state of lower activity. The earth has been cooling ever since.
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There is another route over the Sierras and that is Highway 70 but there was a massive slide that has the road closed since before all this weather. Highway 70 is the lowest year around highway over the SIerras. It does have some restrictions on trucks because of its curviness through the Feather River Canyon. That closure has complicated the I-80 traffic.
Gruesome Newsom should take all the money he's throwing at virtue signaling projects and start work on a tunnel.
Maybe they'll hit a huge gold vein while digging and it will pay for itself.
Lol, no one follows the weather!?!?😵💫
So many people are completely clueless.
They need to keep the big trucks to the right hand side. It's ridiculous that the entire highways gets stopped as they all try and pass each other and get stuck.
but but but 1 can go a 1/2 a mile an hour faster! 🙄🙄"I won't get stuck like that guy"
I think they did. The trucks slid out of the right lane looks like.
Incredibly awesome footage. TY for all your efforts. Been there done that back early 80’s as a rabid skier! ☺️😄😄DEFINITELY NOTlike that tho! For so long into season, as well!😱😱Impossibly difficult driving conditions! 🥺😱😳👍
Happens so often that small packaged men think their 4x4 pickup can climb Everest.
And I complain when it drops below 50. 🤦🏽♀️
He's not going to pull n 80.000lbs semi with that with his SUV
All the stuck 4x4's, carry a small compressor. Air your tires down to about 10psi. Take it super easy as to not throw a bead. Air back up when you get to lower elevation, less snow. You will be amazed how much better your vehicles will move in snow. 50psi and snow with no weight just doesn't work.
excellent video Thank you
I love it, you know they packed lots of extra lunch. 😊 just pull over and camp. Spring thaw close.
for all you americans, here a little tip from a canadian, use winter tires and use your 4x4
LOL, do you think they will pay any attention to us Canadians, they have had years to take notes but most don't, not from the southern states anyway. What blows me away is that a state like Minnesota that most certainly has winter roads and in fact gets a lot of horrible ice road conditions due to their weather patterns, the law in that state prohibits them from using tires that are studded and in fact have laws against running tire chains as well other than certain situations. Here in Alberta its legal to run studs 365 days a year if one wanted to and just assumed of course all the northern states would allow winter time use of studs.
A Big Shout Out for all our Truckers ! Stay safe and "Keep on Trucking"
Chaos!!!.... Global Freezing...... OMG!!!
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Remember the CF and ROADWAY pusher trucks?
COE SWB with cement block over axle all chained with huge push bar.
He could pull or push loaded lowboys over summit.
I remember indeed.
Why is that nice white suv trying to tow a semi? I’m sure his transmission was screaming STOP!!!🛑 😱
When I was a kid we had a ford station wagon with studded snow tires and an extra fuel tank in the rear storage we towed a duely Chevy one ton with a race car trailer over Donner took 8 hours to get from Reno to Sacramento. 😜 been there done that got the tee shirt.😎
How many of these people absolutely have to be on the road?
oh my face, I had last experienced such snow masses in 1992, on a truck trip to Hammerfest in northern Norway. Since the snow masses piled up to 3m high, left and right of the coastal road and at some point after several hours at a snail's pace went purely nothing more. We stood for almost 5 days and nothing helped to get on.
شكرا لسائق السيارة الذي يحاول مساعدة الأخرين - أنت شخص رائع حقا ❤❤🌹🌹
So many truckers without the proper tires and no chains.
Looks like they might want to move truck driving school to high altitudes and teach them to drive in the snow. They are all over the hwy.
I’m sure it’ll be hottest year on record
And the worst drought ever!
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Amazing how those 4x4 pick up trucks can’t get anywhere. Oh well, even you can’t beat physics…..
Don't miss the white vehicle trying to tow a fully loaded semi at 9:45. Really funny. Do they have weather forecasts in California?
It's amazing how some truckers don't release trailer brakes when being towed !
Frozen air brakes.
A lot of 2 wheel drive trucks out in this part of California.....
Why do they not close it road? tbh the farmers help move trucks if they get stuck round here.
Greetings from the BIG SKY. Here, I call this the White Eagle.
Super Duty fail lol. Oh, it does not snow much anymore up here. Come on man.
The Clown in the FX4 F250 didn't probably know about just manually locking his front hubs in the 1st place
I can remember when we would plow the roads and sand them. :)
If your tires are fully inflated it's not going to help you need to let air out to their almost flat for traction aid .
Growing up in Texas I used to think all Interstates were dry and flat. You can't see the highway here at all.
Is it really that important to go out in that storm??
At a memorial service, I heard a couple of truckers talking. Guy asks, why did you go to driving local. Second guy answered, last time I pulled a set of doubles over Donner summit in the winter, I said never again".
lol guy at 2:00 didnt even put it into 4wd.. then still cant get out w/ worn out tires
This is why I carry a snow shovel and salt
wow, guy in the f250 couldnt be bothered to get out and lock his front hubs
Man I missed that mess, just barely made out of IL. I-55 southbound was closed due to this weather and traffic situation. Vehicles were rerouted from the highway. I had to go west on county road 17 to I-39
Cool
в России 7 месяцев в году такая погода и нечищеные дроги! ездим! справляемся! уметь надо 😉
Looks like a fun job for caltrans. Ramming big rigs to get them moving.
Suby with chains....is what I envision if I had to drive in that.
I regularly do it in those conditions. While I carry chains and have the proper equipment for issues, I have yet to need more than winter tires on a 4x4 suv
Unbelievable that California has more snow than Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan combined 😮. 😂
We average over 300 inches of snow in the high Sierras
@@paulriddle7818 Whoa 😳, you would think you would have some heavy duty equipment to handle snow if this is common.
Might be time to close I/80 if you don’t have the equipment or the manpower to handle it. Looks very Dangerous.
A Grader isn’t made for plowing snow.
I cover weather all of the country. Nowhere is better prepared than that area. It isnt even close.
@@WxChasing 🤣😂😁🤣 , Really? Using a Grader to plow snow? (snickering). 😏🤭
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Shame on the mess
Wasn’t just Houston…I drove 2 hrs east from Houston to my dads on the TX/LA border and his car looked exactly like mine. I wonder how far this extended.
Those fords look like they are great in the snow!
Problem with these pick up trucks if he has a little weight in the back in the bed he will have more grip
Seeing all of those trucks stuck and they are all running single chains. Once the wheel slips one revolution the inside wheel is left spinning on ice while the chained up tire on the outside is spinning in the air an inch from the road.
Truckers don't be lazy with an easy to install set of chains that only get you into trouble deeper. If it's worth chaining up put on a set of triples. Singles should be banned from drive axle applications and only be allowed on trailer or steering axles. I can't believe this is still happening!
It's extremely rare to hear a knowledgeable comment like yours ( I am from Alberta ) as it seems most often when I happen to watch videos like this, be it trucks going over I 70 in Colorado or here on Donner etc, that seems to be the theme of using singles and they consider themselves all chained up drive tire wise when they throw singles on the outer four drive corners. If conditions are not too awful that probably gets a fair amount of the trucks through ok that have a proper balance of weight on the drives. I suspect various factors in this single chain theme, companies that buy the bare minimum tire chains for company drivers, not enough placement on the truck to hang two sets of triples plus another two sets of singles for the steers and drag chains on the trailer. Weight being yet another factor, I get the impression some companies don't want any more dead weight on the truck than they are forced to carry. The drive tires on those trucks, probably not ideal winter tires, I would be surprised if fleet companies in general order their trucks with four way lockers. I have only presumed that chaining the outside drive tires is considered sufficient to cover the chain law requirement ( not logic based on condition requirements, just to satisfy DOT I suspect ). That certainly doesn't happen up here in the oil patch or log hauling etc as per off road chaining practices as 8mm trygg triples ( they have the round knobs on the cross chains ) are standard fare and while tandem body jobs can usually get away with one set of triples, highway tractors need two sets and still spin out on the more insane hills. I laughed at the cattle pot that went roaring by these spun out trucks, hmmm, any chance he had on two sets of triples ( plus good weight distribution ) as he wasn't having issues and there would be a reason for that. Packed snow or mud are two surfaces that have trucks fall flat on their face trying to run singles with that bare tire beside holding the truck up after the chained tire spits out the surface it clawed away.
@@charlesb4267 You bring up some very valid points for the use of singles vs triples, I can see that you've obviously been up and down the road a time or two as well.
I'm from BC and have been trucking in the Pacific Northwest for over 40 years, long haul highway first then regional mixed with a lot mining and logging road time. Retired now.
I believe for the sake of safety and the ability to keep major highways open that the use of singles should banned from use on drive axle applications on major arterial routes and interstates.
Also now that with the trend to "just in time inventory" our highways have become our nations warehouses it saddens me to see the quality of skilled drivers out there declining to the point that many now are essentially just steering wheel holders. This doesn't help much, have seen all too many instances of drivers not having a clue on how to put on a set of chains. Never mind when to chain up.
Rant off. LOL
Yeah, LOVE those Trygg chains!
Have a good one!!!
@@74willy81 Sad to say but I have a fraction of the experience you possess in the trucking industry, my experience commercially related dates back well over 30 years ago when I worked for a short time for Schlumberger doing frac and cementing jobs, went up the Chinchaga forestry road a certain amount that winter and then way off into the middle of nowhere on cutlines over the muskeg ( winter time of course ), was up in the Pink Mountain area once. Years back did ride with a couple of friends who drove log truck hauling from south of Grande Prairie and tried my hand at slinging load cables ( I needed more practice ! ) . I grew up on a farm and that is how I try to make my living, we have a few highway tractors to haul grain to the local grain terminals and always have a set of triple tryggs hanging on the truck just in case but only throw them on if I find myself in a situation as otherwise simply stop hauling if its that bad as at least we have that choice. I expect your right, there would be a fair percentage of trucks going over passes like that in the states that are over their head with the conditions and putting on insufficient chains and end up getting themselves into a major mess and grind everything to a halt for those that know what they are in for and have the jewellery and know how to use them. We used to get grain custom hauled more back when we didn't have a semi and one of those times the outfit we happened to hire is having traction issues in the yard due to ice, had a melt and refreeze and was flat ground but with no surprise he started having major traction issues as he got into his second trailer of his Super B and I asked if he should probably throw a chain to give him the little bit of help his truck needed. Turns out he had no tire chains and why, oh its because they take up payload so hes not going to carry any chains around. Every so often we would get a super trucker like that, I didn't have chains to fit his truck so I assisted with a tow rope and a small farm tractor I had with tire chains for plowing snow as it didn't take much ( our large four wheel drives have summer fuel and sit in the shed all winter ). I hate to think what a set of Tryggs cost these days. Thanks for the kind reply, oh and I bet your blood pressure starts to rise as you watch a video like this knowing the Donner pass parking lot situation is completely preventable.
I know nothing about semis, but I was wondering why the trucks don't appear to be even trying to move forward while the vehicles are pulling on them. Finally I noticed the truck cabs rear wheels are spinning. So .... all these semi cabs have rear wheel drive? Seems unsafe and not something you'd take over Donner Pass or any mountain pass in the winter. Is this typical?
Global Warming has left the Chat!!
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Summer tires on that f250 how embarrassing
Great video, that suburban needs a proper tow strap… should’ve charged each truck $15 and you would have had it paid for 😂😂
$15.00 per tow, seriously?
@@larryfreeman7979 well, just to cover the cost of a $30 strap
If you don't want to get stuck buy 4wd car/truck and all season tires.
I can’t believe that not one individual, out of all the vehicles that I’ve seen in this video, and I’m about halfway through it. But as I was saying,
I cannot believe that, not one car, not one SUV, and not one pick up truck, does it have studded tires 🛞 on their vehicle. It doesn’t matter if you live where I live,
here in the very NW PART OFANA, or Wyoming north, or South Dakota all these states people run studded tires.
And wood studs on your vehicle, you don’t have any trouble whatsoever with spinning on ice. It just breaks right through it. It bites like crazy.
How many of those vehicles have winter or snow tires. It's mandatory over here the whole winter, it makes a huge difference on slippery roads. Safety first
Taking a big truck over Donner Pass. That road can kill you at 70 degrees out
WHO said all the Gold was panned out ? Theres a wreckers GOLD MINE in them hills!
Does anybody know what tire chains are for??????Does anybody know how to put them on?????? I doubt it.
I suspect not your average Californian, besides the local boutique store in LA probably doesn't handle tire chains. A friend of mine who has lived all her life in Colorado just shakes her head, the amount of issues they have now vs some years ago with this same thing and take a guess, its people from California having moved in mass to Colorado and imported their attitude and clueless nature and now DOT has to contend with babysitting them and making up new laws to protect them from themselves.
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Lets make ice!
A word of advice to the guy in the white 4x4. First so all turn on your 4 wheel drive. Second buy new tires!
I wonder if his four wheel drive was not functional as that certainly could have been a factor but his tires were genuine southern Cali issue. The sad part is all he would have needed is one set of chains for the rear axle and he would have been set to slowly make his way over the pass.
That doesn't look like what most people think of when they think of California.
Tons of snow will help with the drought
They never heard of chains?
This is all insane! In those conditions it should be four wheel drive with chains on all wheels that have enough clearance! I see too many hot shots in their four wheel drive pickup trucks and their off road tires. How many people think that they can tow an eighteen wheel full loaded semi truck out of a slippery situation? Now I understand why I80 is closed so often, because it's not possible to drive up and down these steep mountain roads without driving a huge Caterpillar snowplow yourself!
Well, snow tires, 4x4, and a good driver go along ways in these conditions.
@@MackB12 Very few people have the true dedicated winter tires that are switched out at the end of each season.
@@mitchellbarnow1709 I agree. M+S are decent all season, but personally, I put on winter tires around early December depending on my first trip to Tahoe and will pull them off after my last winter trip. Highly recommend.
@@MackB12 You’re a smart person with my initials!
A lot of trans continental traffic rolls through that mountain range and many people are not thinking like “ Yikes! I better not pull a Donner Party incident! They just think no problemo but you have a thousand other people making similar decisions!
Some of you guys look like your going way to fast for the conditions😮
@4:34 I know there are none that steep on I-80 but IMAGINE how steep it would have to be for that sign to appear vertical.🙃