Given the cost of the extras combined with the fact this would be a dream purchase I'd spend the extra and have the ocean because it would always be in the back of my mind that I could of had the higher spec if I didn't.
I'd have the Coast, the Bright Oak Wood interior wins it for me. The grey slate just looked too sombre. Can easily spec a few extras and nothing only on the Ocean is a must have.
waiting for my ocean delivery in 3 months time and watched this probably 3 times now, still the best review to watch , so rammed with information , hats off to you two you really are the best at these , no one comes close ......
@@ABusAndBeyond thank you , i strongly suspect you guys are in the same position as me waiting crazy times for the new one lol but just my thoughts ;) take care and keep doing what your doing , best bit filmed so far in all the videos is the shot i see every time you start one and its that 1 second bentley shot has me laughing again and again , we are lab owners so we are biased ;)
Coast would not allow a roof rack unless you remove it before raising the roof..... might be important to some. Ocean can carry upto 50 kg , not a lot but surfboards or kayaks is possible...
Rom Why do you have to remove the roof racks on the Coast in the UK? Here in Australia we are only getting the Beach and the brochure says that the roof racks on it can carry up to 50kg. It doesn’t say you have to remove them before opening the roof.
@@dakashades My concern would be that if the roof is raised and theres 50kg still on the rack and the roof was to collapse in the middle of the night it could hurt someone; whereas the electric roof would maintain the hydraulic pressure to keep the roof in place while the rack is loaded. Apart from that I would not have thought theres a reason to remove the rack but I could be totally wrong.
And then there is the Ford Nugget with a much more interesting layout in my opinion and 5 seats, hot water, ... I really like the seperate kitchen area in the back rather than the Cali solution. Time for a change in layout and to come up with something new.
Very easy to follow guide as usual. Just been through this dilemma, I originally spec”d a Coast with a few juicy extras and was getting close to the Ocean. Currently there are some juicy discounts so I went for the Ocean which ended up just a few K above the Base Coast list price. I also took into account the excellent depreciation on the Ocean, the Coast is unknown at the moment but I expect the depreciation rate should be relative to the Ocean wouldn’t know why it shouldn’t be.
Power latching side doors is MUST BE in campervan and it was the main reason why I decided to buy Ocean. If we talked about electric top up roof I'am not convinced to this solution, more practical seems to be manual one. You don't have to bother about rain which can cause damage of the engine. On the other hand as I've read in one of comments below hydraulic top up roof can lift up to 50 kg what is impossible in manual solution so yeah, Ocean seems to be better choice for several reasons.
Great video - I just wish you'd made it about a month ago! I didn't find it easy to extract all of this information from the brochure... By the time we'd added the extras we wanted on a Coast we decided to just go for an Ocean... can't wait for it to arrive!
We have a Beach which we love, very disappointed with VW decision to stop the Beach being available in the UK. If we ever changed we thought we would go Coast but after watching your review we favour the Ocean.
VW have continued to provide the Beach in Ireland so maybe that could be an option to import via Belfast and re-register, just something to consider. I favour the Ocean too, but theres a big price jump from a Beach to Ocean.
Another great video. Also, a big thank you to you guys because, after watching your channel for a few months through lock-down, we bought a s/h motorhome and have been enjoying trips out with our dogs for the last month. About to head west for 8 nights on Friday. Your brilliant, funny reviews have directly encouraged us to new adventures 🙂
Brilliant as ever guys, thanks for posting. We considered a Coast but in the end went for an Ocean (used) Having seen your video I think we’d still go for an Ocean but it’d be a close call as there’s a lot of value for money in the Coast. One of the biggest let-downs for us with the Coast is the lack of a front window in the pop-top and the 3-Zone climate control is a must as we too have a dog (who runs hot, like me) and my wife runs cold so being able to balance the temperatures is important
Living in Sweden insulation is key, going to use the van year round here, including winter surfing so feels like Ocean is the way to go. Probably looking at 2nd hand market to buy one and then it seems like the safer option to get the warmest option possible.
We think the ocean would be the best buy having the extras already fitted as standard instead of having them fitted in a workshop to the ocean I'm afraid our experience with aftersales service workshops are not the best so I would always go for the ocean myself .we think we may get one next year when things calm down abit.god bless you both.xxx
It is possible to get the 4motion on the coast. About the led, I would go with halogen anytime. Its possible to buy a new H7 bulp anywhere in any town the led not. For me the AC vs 3 zone climate control might do the trick.
Great comparison. I am late watching this but I’m looking at a California surf - it’s a replacement to the beach but addresses some of the ‘must have options’. (According to Vw). I’d be interested in peoples views. Thanks
The spec for the Coast model in Ireland includes manual transmission as an option, but looking at all of the options when I spec'd p the Coast with a DSG, climate and heating plus, and what i would like from the Ocean model, but with a manual roof and no metallic paint to save some money; the Coast was within €6k of the Ocean spec I had selected. So on balance it is a very expensive vehicle so I would be concerned that I would overlook something that would annoy me later. Therefore on balance I would choose the Ocean model (I would love to be able to desert the electric roof though). Your assessment was really helpful as im trying to decide on which camper I will buy later this year so it has narrowed the choice between a VW California Ocean or a Westfalia Jules Verne. I really like the Jules Verne layout, onboard h/c water and toilet but the California is still a compelling proposition and it now has the same bed system in the roof as the JV. Decisions, decisions.. thank you for all of the information and honest support your family provides on this channel, it is excellent.
Front view is so nice. We even have it on our T4 ‘94. Exchanging for a coast is an option, but front view missing would be a bummer. Electric sliding door latch on ocean is quite nice. Appconnect is all you need nowadays. And... Is the halogen really that bad? I’d like to know, please share your ideas in the comments! Btw, Congratz on the upcoming baby
Don’t forget, you’re getting LEDs front and rear so that’s actually 4 LED lights for that price. But I agree it’s a lot of money. But try doubling that figure for those of us paying in Australian dollars and it sounds even worse but I think essential on our long country roads.
The Coast has no Rear Aircon which is a huge option at over 2 thousand pounds., I would be interested how much of a difference it makes to passengers in the back to have no AC especially at 36C + in Italy
It's £7k difference and you still don't get the extra power and other benefits. In reality the Ocean is probably worth the difference over the Coast. But neither vehicle is worth anywhere near what VW want for it. Look at the small motorhomes or larger prestige van conversions you can get for £65k. Only VW brand suckers would spend £63k on a van with no shower, toilet or garage...and with very little internal storage.
Comparing apples and pears, people who buy the California in their thousands are fully aware that they could purchase a Fiat based lump with typical caravan type interiors for less money, but hey they are just not what they want or need, you pays your money.........
@@margaretbell5028 @Margaret Bell the inside of a California is very cheap plastics for the most part- so trying to compare that positively to craftsman coach built interiors is a joke. Your argument is that a Cali is better quality than a bespoke craftsman van conversion. Ha. Secondly, it's got nothing to do with Fiat based lumps. Look at bespoke VW T6 and Crafter van conversions . and Mercedes based small motorhomes. You're fooling yourself if you think a Cali is better quality. It's OK to say 'we've bought into a lifestyle and a brand', but don't look down on others who have bought better quality for the same money.
@@markheywood8236 Nah, most are just rubbish, any visit to the motor home show ends in astonishment that anyone would pay decent money for such shoddy designs, acres of stick on carpet and plastic wood veneers. Now if someone would do a Hallberg Rassy type finish you would be talking about craftsmanship, as ever you pays your money...........
To some extent I agree that a motorhome can provide better value, but for me it’s about being able to use it every day as the wife’s daily runaround, it’s compact and can be parked easily. So it also replaces the need for a second car. Yes it’s a compromise but spending the same amount on a motorhome which will sit on the drive for most of the time is a waste of money for me. As for branding, at least you know VW will hold their value and have an established used market. It’s early days yet to see how the Ford Nugget or MB Marco Polo stand the test of time say after 5 or 10 years.
Thinking about getting an Ocean. I’ve a Labrador and Jack Russell with me on holiday. How do you sleep Bentley when you end up sleeping downstairs sometimes?
I see the vw camper van a multi use take our elderly parents out mabey take grandchildren to school as well as holidays l so until VW put sliding door on uk kerbside all the extras are pointless So if my T5 needed replacing i'll stick with a uk converter
There is easy access through to the front passenger door for children, the sliding door can be locked to prevent them trying to leave that side if required. Has never been a problem with my grandchildren.
Will any of these ever be available in the US? Thoughts of getting one from VanWorx and having it shipped to the US? Will it be compliant with CA emissions?
Seems silly for the Ocean to have the electric pop top. It's noisy, wastes battery life, and is totally unnecessary in a short campervan (versus a tall campervan like the Hymer Grand Canyon S/Free 600). Too bad there isn't a net screen for the front of the pop top when you open it up all the way.
SHAWN & LIZZY, that was a unique way of comparrison sake seems If one could do it the OCEAN would be it , so tell me does it still have chairs in the way your are stored ? Thad care stay well, awaiting baby ! Give BENTLY , a treat for me,,,,,, sadly the 6 spd gearbox, is not available in UK, so that means ONLY LHD ? Cheers 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
Given the cost of the extras combined with the fact this would be a dream purchase I'd spend the extra and have the ocean because it would always be in the back of my mind that I could of had the higher spec if I didn't.
I'd have the Coast, the Bright Oak Wood interior wins it for me. The grey slate just looked too sombre. Can easily spec a few extras and nothing only on the Ocean is a must have.
waiting for my ocean delivery in 3 months time and watched this probably 3 times now, still the best review to watch , so rammed with information , hats off to you two you really are the best at these , no one comes close ......
It’s comments like this that make the effort so worthwhile! Thanks so much and enjoy your new Ocean when you get it!! Very exciting!
@@ABusAndBeyond thank you , i strongly suspect you guys are in the same position as me waiting crazy times for the new one lol but just my thoughts ;) take care and keep doing what your doing , best bit filmed so far in all the videos is the shot i see every time you start one and its that 1 second bentley shot has me laughing again and again , we are lab owners so we are biased ;)
In the United States, I would be happy with either one! We haven't had a real Vw Van since 03! I miss my T4 03 Vw Eurovan MV with the vr6.
Coast would not allow a roof rack unless you remove it before raising the roof..... might be important to some. Ocean can carry upto 50 kg , not a lot but surfboards or kayaks is possible...
Great points, thanks
Rom Why do you have to remove the roof racks on the Coast in the UK? Here in Australia we are only getting the Beach and the brochure says that the roof racks on it can carry up to 50kg. It doesn’t say you have to remove them before opening the roof.
@@dakashades My concern would be that if the roof is raised and theres 50kg still on the rack and the roof was to collapse in the middle of the night it could hurt someone; whereas the electric roof would maintain the hydraulic pressure to keep the roof in place while the rack is loaded. Apart from that I would not have thought theres a reason to remove the rack but I could be totally wrong.
And then there is the Ford Nugget with a much more interesting layout in my opinion and 5 seats, hot water, ...
I really like the seperate kitchen area in the back rather than the Cali solution. Time for a change in layout and to come up with something new.
Very easy to follow guide as usual. Just been through this dilemma, I originally spec”d a Coast with a few juicy extras and was getting close to the Ocean. Currently there are some juicy discounts so I went for the Ocean which ended up just a few K above the Base Coast list price. I also took into account the excellent depreciation on the Ocean, the Coast is unknown at the moment but I expect the depreciation rate should be relative to the Ocean wouldn’t know why it shouldn’t be.
Power latching side doors is MUST BE in campervan and it was the main reason why I decided to buy Ocean. If we talked about electric top up roof I'am not convinced to this solution, more practical seems to be manual one. You don't have to bother about rain which can cause damage of the engine. On the other hand as I've read in one of comments below hydraulic top up roof can lift up to 50 kg what is impossible in manual solution so yeah, Ocean seems to be better choice for several reasons.
For something that's a bit pricey might as well get top of the line so you won't have regrets later.
Great video - I just wish you'd made it about a month ago! I didn't find it easy to extract all of this information from the brochure... By the time we'd added the extras we wanted on a Coast we decided to just go for an Ocean... can't wait for it to arrive!
Exciting times ahead! Enjoy!
The full fat ocean all day long.
If your already spending that sort of money the extra will always be a (I wish I had)
We have a Beach which we love, very disappointed with VW decision to stop the Beach being available in the UK. If we ever changed we thought we would go Coast but after watching your review we favour the Ocean.
VW have continued to provide the Beach in Ireland so maybe that could be an option to import via Belfast and re-register, just something to consider. I favour the Ocean too, but theres a big price jump from a Beach to Ocean.
Another great video. Also, a big thank you to you guys because, after watching your channel for a few months through lock-down, we bought a s/h motorhome and have been enjoying trips out with our dogs for the last month. About to head west for 8 nights on Friday. Your brilliant, funny reviews have directly encouraged us to new adventures 🙂
Brilliant as ever guys, thanks for posting. We considered a Coast but in the end went for an Ocean (used) Having seen your video I think we’d still go for an Ocean but it’d be a close call as there’s a lot of value for money in the Coast. One of the biggest let-downs for us with the Coast is the lack of a front window in the pop-top and the 3-Zone climate control is a must as we too have a dog (who runs hot, like me) and my wife runs cold so being able to balance the temperatures is important
You can add the window on the my 21 now
Living in Sweden insulation is key, going to use the van year round here, including winter surfing so feels like Ocean is the way to go. Probably looking at 2nd hand market to buy one and then it seems like the safer option to get the warmest option possible.
It has to be the extra for the Ocean for me, every time.
This is one of our best video I have watched great music.
We think the ocean would be the best buy having the extras already fitted as standard instead of having them fitted in a workshop to the ocean I'm afraid our experience with aftersales service workshops are not the best so I would always go for the ocean myself .we think we may get one next year when things calm down abit.god bless you both.xxx
Fantastic explanatory video..it is really helpful guys, thank you..!!
Great comparison but it will be the coast for us plus a couple of options and bigger wheels from an independent supplier.
It is possible to get the 4motion on the coast.
About the led, I would go with halogen anytime. Its possible to buy a new H7 bulp anywhere in any town the led not.
For me the AC vs 3 zone climate control might do the trick.
I’d go for the Ocean
Great comparison. I am late watching this but I’m looking at a California surf - it’s a replacement to the beach but addresses some of the ‘must have options’. (According to Vw). I’d be interested in peoples views. Thanks
I think it’s actually the replacement for the Coast since it still has a full kitchen. But otherwise yes I think it has a lot of great options on it.
The spec for the Coast model in Ireland includes manual transmission as an option, but looking at all of the options when I spec'd p the Coast with a DSG, climate and heating plus, and what i would like from the Ocean model, but with a manual roof and no metallic paint to save some money; the Coast was within €6k of the Ocean spec I had selected. So on balance it is a very expensive vehicle so I would be concerned that I would overlook something that would annoy me later. Therefore on balance I would choose the Ocean model (I would love to be able to desert the electric roof though). Your assessment was really helpful as im trying to decide on which camper I will buy later this year so it has narrowed the choice between a VW California Ocean or a Westfalia Jules Verne. I really like the Jules Verne layout, onboard h/c water and toilet but the California is still a compelling proposition and it now has the same bed system in the roof as the JV. Decisions, decisions.. thank you for all of the information and honest support your family provides on this channel, it is excellent.
Front view is so nice. We even have it on our T4 ‘94. Exchanging for a coast is an option, but front view missing would be a bummer. Electric sliding door latch on ocean is quite nice. Appconnect is all you need nowadays. And... Is the halogen really that bad? I’d like to know, please share your ideas in the comments!
Btw, Congratz on the upcoming baby
Thanks for your work. Very helpful!
Why on earth would anyone be bothered with that slow electric roof? Coast all day for me
Useful vid as always. Cheers
Great video guys. Really really helpful.
Okay, LEDs are essential equipment I agree, but 1300 pounds??? That's insane.
Don’t forget, you’re getting LEDs front and rear so that’s actually 4 LED lights for that price. But I agree it’s a lot of money. But try doubling that figure for those of us paying in Australian dollars and it sounds even worse but I think essential on our long country roads.
@@dakashades Yes, I've heard about the prices in Australia.
I love the Ocean.🥰❤️🤗👍🏼
I'd get the ocean if money was no object, not a fan of the graphite cabinets but that's an easy retrofit. Just a shame there's no manual
I am planning to buy one.Not yet decided on Marcopolo or Cali.Any advice?
Good info guys!
nice camper van
Are these based on LWB or SWB versions
If the economy was on top the coast. As more basic, better value! Barbro Sweden
The Coast has no Rear Aircon which is a huge option at over 2 thousand pounds., I would be interested how much of a difference it makes to passengers in the back to have no AC especially at 36C + in Italy
It's £7k difference and you still don't get the extra power and other benefits. In reality the Ocean is probably worth the difference over the Coast. But neither vehicle is worth anywhere near what VW want for it.
Look at the small motorhomes or larger prestige van conversions you can get for £65k. Only VW brand suckers would spend £63k on a van with no shower, toilet or garage...and with very little internal storage.
Comparing apples and pears, people who buy the California in their thousands are fully aware that they could purchase a Fiat based lump with typical caravan type interiors for less money, but hey they are just not what they want or need, you pays your money.........
@@margaretbell5028 @Margaret Bell the inside of a California is very cheap plastics for the most part- so trying to compare that positively to craftsman coach built interiors is a joke. Your argument is that a Cali is better quality than a bespoke craftsman van conversion. Ha.
Secondly, it's got nothing to do with Fiat based lumps.
Look at bespoke VW T6 and Crafter van conversions . and Mercedes based small motorhomes.
You're fooling yourself if you think a Cali is better quality. It's OK to say 'we've bought into a lifestyle and a brand', but don't look down on others who have bought better quality for the same money.
@@markheywood8236 Nah, most are just rubbish, any visit to the motor home show ends in astonishment that anyone would pay decent money for such shoddy designs, acres of stick on carpet and plastic wood veneers.
Now if someone would do a Hallberg Rassy type finish you would be talking about craftsmanship, as ever you pays your money...........
To some extent I agree that a motorhome can provide better value, but for me it’s about being able to use it every day as the wife’s daily runaround, it’s compact and can be parked easily. So it also replaces the need for a second car. Yes it’s a compromise but spending the same amount on a motorhome which will sit on the drive for most of the time is a waste of money for me. As for branding, at least you know VW will hold their value and have an established used market. It’s early days yet to see how the Ford Nugget or MB Marco Polo stand the test of time say after 5 or 10 years.
Thinking about getting an Ocean. I’ve a Labrador and Jack Russell with me on holiday. How do you sleep Bentley when you end up sleeping downstairs sometimes?
I see the vw camper van a multi use take our elderly parents out mabey take grandchildren to school as well as holidays l so until VW put sliding door on uk kerbside all the extras are pointless
So if my T5 needed replacing i'll stick with a uk converter
There is easy access through to the front passenger door for children, the sliding door can be locked to prevent them trying to leave that side if required. Has never been a problem with my grandchildren.
If I was paying that kind of money then I would be getting the ocean
Buy it once by the best job done.
Will any of these ever be available in the US? Thoughts of getting one from VanWorx and having it shipped to the US? Will it be compliant with CA emissions?
If you are that deap into buying a california i think you would be aswell going the full hog and getting the ocean
As always an excellent presentation, thanks 😁
It would be an Ocean for me! Btw any sign of baby?
The ocean every time
Seems silly for the Ocean to have the electric pop top. It's noisy, wastes battery life, and is totally unnecessary in a short campervan (versus a tall campervan like the Hymer Grand Canyon S/Free 600). Too bad there isn't a net screen for the front of the pop top when you open it up all the way.
SHAWN & LIZZY, that was a unique way of comparrison sake seems If one could do it the OCEAN would be it , so tell me does it still have chairs in the way your are stored ?
Thad care stay well, awaiting baby ! Give BENTLY , a treat for me,,,,,, sadly the 6 spd gearbox, is not available in UK, so that means ONLY LHD ? Cheers 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
it’s a huge ocean cost
Are you guys going on any adventures soon?
Only the biggest one ever.... 👶
Thanks 🥰🥂
Second, another great video
Just ordered a Fontana red California 😜💲💲💲💲💲
I blame you both for this.
😂 sorry about that. Great choice though
Is the California range SWB or LWB?
SWB 👍
Coast for me ....
Don't forget your paying VWAT tax on it.
The prices shown are VAT inclusive, so the dealer will account for VAT *out of* the £55k or £63k you pay them rather than adding it on top.
Good god I'd rather put my pounds to a quality motorhome 🤩
TDI diesel is why VW refuses to import this model to USA. Stupid American Govt Req.