Is Forces of Destiny good?
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2018
- A pile of colorful beads.
Click the next great Forces of Destiny doll:
Padme’s decoy who gets blown up on the landing pad - / jennynicholson
Zam Wesell - / jennyenicholson
Shmi Skywalker, whose youth, frankly, probably doesn’t include anything you’d want children to play out with dolls - / spider_jewel
The tauntaun which maybe was female - / spiderjewel
Inexplicably every character but Rose Tico whom they have featured in multiple shorts and whom they have yet to even announce the vaguest intent to make a doll of despite making other Last Jedi dolls, such as a THIRD Rey and even Kylo Ren - / jennynicholsonvids - Krátké a kreslené filmy
THE PORG IS NOT WAVING BUT DROWNING.
If only we all could meet our end at the bottom of a sea of plushies and hot takes.
Archvaldor's Warcraft Hacks ihhhvgu
Brian Wild YES!
drowning in an almighty ocean of ads
JUST A NERVOUS REACTION PLEASE DON'T RESCUE ME
it's also just incredible that people take this line as "feminists are ruining my star wars!!" and not "a company is trying to take advantage of the market of little girls without putting any effort in at all"
Vicky T I have noticed that something, be it feminism/race/conservatism/Liberlaism/religion/atheism, is always "ruining" Star Wars or anything with a big fanbase.
lol so either Disney was social engineering with that doll line, or they were utterly incompetent.
SeaOfTides past evidence supports incompetence.
People rather victimized themselves than consider others
everything is a feminist issue if it gives you views
One time I was with some people and a little girl had a Monster High. A lady said to the girl "Isn't this doll unrealistically skinny?" and the girl answered "Duh. She's dead."
Vincent Bullock this made me laugh harder than it probably should have
that girl's gonna be fine in life
Vincent Bullock That girl is my fuckin’ hero.
She’s right tho
Kids know their shit
I feel like Jenny's genuine understanding of what children, and specifically girls, look for in toys and media heals a part of my soul that's always felt frustrated at how I was perceived
It's so comforting to see someone popular celebrate girly things instead of deriding them. Even her criticism feels validating, because it's based on an actual understanding of those themes.
Hear hear!
Right? I never thought about these things, but as soon as Jenny says something, it seems so obvious. It's sad that whoever designed these dolls either didn't know or didn't care about how little girls play with toys. Also, it sucks that the way to make toys for "empowering" girls means that they have to be tough and all about justice, and any aspect of fashion or drama play is clearly considered 'low' play.
I know, it's amazing. Usually media either talks down or makes fun of young girls (and teenage girls too) so much, and it's refreshing to see someone who actually respects it, even when she's lightly poking fun at it. Girls are so often made fun of for every single thing they do, and I love that jenny doesn't do that, and instead understands it and explains it in a completely understandable way to outside people who may not get it.
Seriously!! I was an only child with very few friends my age, and my mom, awesome as she is, was always very much the “feminist tomboy” type when she was a kid. I loved dolls and pretty much no one around me really understood why they appealed to me, so I always felt kind of weird and embarrassed. It makes me really happy to see someone fundamentally understand and explain why exactly little kids (both boys and girls!) enjoy dolls, and how specifically they like to play with them without giving it a sexist or “passive” spin. A little girl enjoying dolls doesn’t mean she loves traditional gender roles or is obsessed with her appearance, it just means she likes playing with little plastic humans and having them mimic how regular sized humans act and talk to each other in fun and interesting ways. It’s a pretty normal instinct for kids, both male and female, and I wish it wouldn’t have all these weird “sexist social conditioning” ideas assigned to it. I was definitely a strong believer in gender equality as a kid, and my Barbies used to go on fun little adventures as spies and explorers just as often as they dressed up for parties. Just because it was fun putting little clothes and accessories on little people and having them take care of even littler pets doesn’t mean the plastic people brainwashed me into having no ambitions beyond looking good.
Some of y’all clearly never had to make up your own complex storylines using your nail polish bottles and a single headless plastic fairy doll and it shows.
I made "dragons" out of cloth pins. I had stupid amount of fun with those, honestly.
@@KOTEBANAROT my dragon was my Flick Flak watch.
my sister and i used our barbies and created a story about social unrest and revolution
My mums lipstick was a very good substitute for blood
My toys went through some cutthroat adventures lol
My nail polish bottles were all singers, I made them dance to music on the radio. I was a strange child.
"leias best friend on alderaan"
wow another doll who canonically dies in a huge explosion
epic
E🅱️ic
@@Spam181 E🅱️ic
E🅱️I🆑Y 🅰️WESOME
Wait so girls' toys are all about fun, colorful clothing, talking, and emotional conflict?
Is pro wrestling for girls?
Pro wrestling is for everyone.
Have you seen the female wrestlers? * fans self and sweats in bisexual *
Rayce Archer yep
I loved pro wrestling as a little girl
“G.L.O.W.” Anyone?
It'd be hilarious if the “Mean Girl”
Character was just literally a sith lord? The comedic potential??!???!
And then for extra drama she can be pressured by her father to be all powerful and shit like that
@@rhodopisdenile8977 her dad keeps pressuring her to unleash her sith powers to rule the galaxy, and she interprets this by unleashing her sith powers to become prom queen. I love it.
I love what they did in the Phineas and Ferb crossover where one of the characters you probably would least expect to be attracted by the dark side becomes a sith lord but when it happens you're just like oh, huh, I guess I'm on board
Asaj Ventres as a mean girl trope would be very very funny.
@@benosick9927 like Ventress crossed with Regina George. On Wednesdays we wear -pink- black!
Meagan found a sith holocron and is drawn to the dark side.
"Dammit Meagan! You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them!"
"What-ever."
“You were like, my BESTIE, Meagan! I like, totes loved you!”
I mean, I feel like you're totally underestimating my power right now, okay?
Meagan, you are like, the worst!
"Just cut it out already, Meagan! I totally have the high ground!"
"You think you're so much better than us, just because you live on the high ground side of town."
Me before a Jenny video: "What is __________? I've never heard of it!"
Me after a Jenny video: "I have very strong opinions about this niche subject and consider myself an expert!"
she just makes us all sooo much smarter! Hurray for Jenny!
I’ve never seen Star Wars and I have strong opinions on it just because of jenny
@@kissarococo2459 Yeah basically lol
Starwars isn’t niche what so ever
@@williamalbatross4677 dolls are though. Did you have strong dolly hobbyist opinions before this?
I showed my 10 year old sister my Rey Forces of Destiny doll just after opening her and the very first thing she said was “I don’t like how she has rubber pants. It looks weird.”
When I was a kid I had two of the same mermaid barbie (coincidence, two people bought me the same birthday present) and I never played with them at all UNTIL my mom bought me a packet of realistic-looking plastic sharks, about 20-30cm long each. From then on every bathtime was just barbie Jaws, absolute carnage, indiscriminate murder all the time. Mom later told me that those sharks were the best $10 she ever spent 😂 Point is, you gotta leave kids play options open because they won't always play the way you expect them to.
I can attest to this. I had a bunch of playmobil as a kid that I would play with intermittently, that was until I went round my friend’s house and she had gotten a playmobil plane (like a plane you could put the little figures in, it was pretty big). From there, every time we would play with playmobil it would all be plane crashes, robberies and home invasions, basically the most traumatic stuff we could come up with for our little playmobil families to go through. Kids play with toys in weird ways if you give them enough free reign.
@SpiffanyWolfe did we have the same childhood? my brother also had a playmobil plane and we would play by making the plane crash, i would always use my toy dinosaurs and Toothless to cause carnage and crash it and he would even make his toy ambulances come and confirm the deaths of the passengers
@@biptari omg I think we did 😂
🤣🤣🤣 relatable
Old comment but I used to take my Barbie dolls all apart (I have no memory of this). My mom said I was probably going to become a scientist because of my curiosity, while dad was betting on serial killer lol. Don't worry, I'm a neuroscience student now.
I remember having a bucket full of Barbie clothes and hardly ever using them because it was hard to get the clothes over Barbie's rubbery limbs. I also had a Ken doll that had a leg that would always fall off, we would pretend he had just gotten back from war and had lost his leg in the process.
Omg, I ended up with a Jessie Ventura doll that had lost his legs below the knee, who I think also happened to have camp clothes? I had the exact same story for him 😂
Holy shit I just had fragments of memories involving dolls whose legs would just drop off
@@faeriegraver No legs are safe in the Great Doll War
I have vivid memories of trying to put long sleeve shirts on my barbies but the thumbs always got stuck
This was why I upgraded from Barbies to Polly Pockets as a kid. Smaller dolls so they could have affordable houses/vehicles, and the clothes themselves were rubber so it was easy to get them onto the dolls. My little nieces and nephews still love playing with them.
A Kylo Ren doll without his bare Great Plains torso is obstruction of justice.
jacked films you mean miscarriage of justice, right?
No obstruction, no collusion
@@dylanthehopelessrema you mean ben swolo
Another unrealistic standard for men.
@@mikedasik462 Adam Driver isn't even swol, he's just very wide, like someone placed some PlayDoh on a flat surface and pushed down on it.
AHAHAHAHAH I lost it at "And Rey comes with Kylo Ren"
YES!!!
I'm crying.
Reylo for life
Themexicansnob SAME
This reminds me of the old joke where a girl asks her parents for a Terminator* figure to play with her Barbie and whe asked why she wants that when Barbie already comes with Ken, the little girl answers that no, she only fakes it when she's with him…
*or any other "manly" character
When my friend and I were 11, we had one of the dolls be evil while she blackmailed the other dolls to do her bidding because she caught one of them stealing because she was a kleptomaniac, while she caught the other ones doing other things. I don't remember the details, but in the end she ends up running one over With a car because that one had seen something to use against her. 11 year old girls are intense. They want nice dolls.
My stories always revolved around a race war between the Barbies and the Monster High dolls, the monster high dolls of course had a hogwarts-like magical school and knew elemental magic, while the barbies were cyborg/robot women that would kidnap the monsters and experiment on them. I also had a detailed creation myth for this world based on the division between magic and science.
@@waterlemonandfriends holy shit that's fucking intense
I'm dying cause I'm remembering playing with my Polly Pockets and I only had one guy so it was like this Gerudo from the Legend of Zelda thing where all of these girls only had one man to go around
Back when my cousin and I were kids, we used to basically roleplay A Series of Unfortunate Events, with me as Count Olaf, her as Esme Squalor and one of my American Girl dolls as Carmelita Spats. I actually drew an eye on that doll's ankle and am now waiting to see how long it takes the youngest cousins (who now own those dolls) to ask why lol
Also, Warrior Cats but with Littlest Pet Shop. That was me and my cousin's jam as tweens.
Emily Armstrong lps and warriors were some very long phases of mine
Okay, but just saying…I would LOVE a purple lightsaber with a rose gold handle.
So would I, and I'm an adult man
@@Kenfren So was Mace Windu.
Why can't I just have a pink one straight up
@@victormunhozzz dudebro star wars fans would cry
@@liamross340 I sincerely doubt that any large amount of people would care at all.
Holy shit I wish they'd make that show with the Sith girl failing at killing everyone and them acting like she's just mean.
random but thats a lot how sheego was in kim possible. like she has green evil glow hands and is always trying to axe kim but her and ron act like sheego is just rude.
"Kelsi is afraid she won't pass her Jedi trials! Layla likes a boy but doesn't know how tell him! Megan found a Sith holocron and is drawn to the dark side and the power it brings!"
Megan is already a breakout star.
Lexi uses jedi mind trick to get out of detention.
Once the dark side degradation starts hitting Megan it'll be tougher to market her to the same crowd.
@@DarkVaati13 But you can totally make story where Megan comes back to the good side and has a completely new outfit and lightsaber.
@@AsherReigns I'm trying to imagine Disney repackaging Asajj Ventress into a cool doll that girls would buy and play with.
Barbara accidentally ordered the genocide of the Jedi!
As a kid I always viewed toys with “action features” as being worse than others, because it looked so fake that it broke my immersion from playing with them
Plus half of the time it made bending their limbs worst
Yeah, that was a terrible decision! I hate action features on dolls, especially dolls like those. They ruined them.
in Momo: A Tale of Time there's a scene where the main character tries to play with a Barbie doll parody, but it's ruined, because it's a talking doll.
"If she wouldn't have talked Momo could have imagined what she said and they could have had a wonderful conversation. It was the fact that she talked that ruined it" (quoting from memory)
That's a problem with a lot of gimmicky dolls: By trying to make your play about what they can do, they only highlight what they can't
unrelated but omg momo!!!! i’ve never heard another person speak about it lol. but big agree, that passage is the best summation of this concept
I know, right? Like, the most “action features” I want is for it to be able to shoot something from a spring in its arm. A blaster, a ball of energy, its own hand maybe. But that’s it.
"'Ugh, she's so mean, she's like the worst.'
But she's actively a sith who's trying to kill them." 🤣
Like Winx.
@@kendrajade6688 I was gonna comment that (still disappointed that Jenny shelved the Winx video)
It’s Barriss, who’s disillusioned with the Jedi order and trying to get the other girls to defect, but they just roll their eyes and huff.
“Look, Barriss, if you don’t want to come to my party just say so. You don’t have to go off on one of your rants about corruption and lack of freedom.” 🙄
I am your 420th like
"So Sabine's playmodes are pants-on, pants-off, no other options."
Same.
ezra approves
andi le
New mandalorian Jedi incoming
And that's canon.
So does Ketsu.
hahahahaha!!! Yep.
The only reason anyone would buy a kylo ren fashion doll would be to take its clothes off, so obviously this toyline is a bust.
I hate how true this is.
“so obviously this toy line is a bust”
(looks at Kylo’s chest region)
... I dunno about that...
@@frostingfluff Heh.... It's almost like people are actually human or something. ;)
I might be two years behind but like ,, lord do I love how Jenny treats children's products like they're made for thinking and feeling children. 100% talking unironically about kids wanting to introduce conflict into their stories? Incredible and braver than any US Marine
Um...ok
Pandering to kids with crap that will hold their attention for an hour or two is very easy. Making them feel seen with something that will become a meaningful part of who they grow up to be is very hard.
the potential for dark/light side drama is reawakening my inner 7 year old. "this is meena. she's on the dark side. she doesn't get along with numa, the jedi. what will rey do when she's invited to meena's party and numa's on the same day?"
“Oh no, the teacher put Rey, Meena, and Numa in the same group for a project! Can Rey help her friends settle their differences? Or will one of them lose their cool?”
TWIST: Meena and Numa are twin sisters! Hijinks ensue
Honestly, doing Padme without her fabulous, extravagant, glamorous and fashion-forward outfits and gowns is offensive. No little girl wants jumpsuit blaster Padme. I would buy Padme and all her fabulous gowns if they just made it happen. I want the queen of Naboo gown, all her other gowns, her little less loud politician wear, and instead of that vest, that jumpsuit outfit needs that fabulous scarf thing. And not only for the fashion but also for story-telling reasons, her wedding gown and the gown she was wearing during her funeral.
And seriously, besides little girls, doll collectors in general would be ALL OVER that.
In 1999 they released a set of Queen Amidala fashion dolls
I had a queen amidala doll growing up. She had the facepaint and that red velvet tunic and dress. Was awesome until my dog chewed her legs off.
Master Markus i
Couldnt agree more
Kylo ren being a never nude is the best thing I have ever heard
*camera pans to tobias crying in the shower*
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
KyloRen joins a group for blue men.
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
now i HAVE to draw kylo crying in the shower in **the cutoffs**
I really, really appreciate how you don't patronize kids here. You recognize them as smart and imaginative. So many people seem to just want to take the route that kids are somehow stupid and will enjoy anything without question. I'm glad you gave them the credit they deserve.
"...and Rey comes with Kylo Ren."
It took me a second to register that but I literally did a spittake. Jenny is both savage and correct.
I had the same reaction - it was lucky I hadn't just taken a sip of coffee.
I mean, she is literally incorrect in the sense that Rey did not come with Kylo Ren. She's only metaphorically correct, and only through certain metaphors.
Kylo Ren looks like the kind of lady who gets pissed off of a coupon doesn’t work for a store and demands to speak to a manager.
I laughed. Spot on.
"I WAS TOLD...BY SUPREME LEADER SNOKE - I MEAN APPLECARE."
And then he throws a tantrum and destroys the register with his lightsaber
karen ren
So a KaRen?
Must be hell for Sabine to find a cardigan that matches her Mandalorian armour.
not only is Sabine a well-known artist, she is also a talented seamstress on the dl
So why hasn’t Disney hired Jenny Nicholson to their marketing department?
Because she has good ideas for the customer, not the shareholder.
@@beanieguitarguy4070 any idea that increases sales are good for the shareholder.
@@oliviaspring9690 yea but caring and taking time to think takes time and money. Lot cheaper to slap some star wars toys in a purple box and hope the uncle rick market profits regardless of whether the kids end up enjoying it a ton
@@oliviaspring9690 Not really. To pick an obvious example, lowering prices increases sales but not necessarily revenue. There are also choices that would be good for consumers without necessarily increasing sales. "Anything that increases production costs" is an obvious one. Another obvious one, albeit less applicable to dolls, is being up-front and clear about the potential dangers a product poses instead of cramming them into a disclaimer that, for legal purposes, exists.
And, of course, for every obvious example there are thousands of complicated, technical ones.
It wouldn't matter. The core problems with these are that there aren't enough female characters that actually interact with each other and that there's not enough creative license with the characters' outfits. Those are both decisions made at the very top. So it'd be a different story if she replaced Kathleen Kennedy.
Why isn't there a Leia bust doll where you can do her hair? I would've lost my shit over that as a kid. Spent hours trying to make her space buns.
Dang you're smart. You just saw right to the core of the toy line's entire concept and broke down precisely why it doesn't work. This is one of my favorite videos of yours, and it's on something I'm not even interested in.
zzuxon because it takes a true to genius to figure this out....
that's kinda why people like her so much. she just kinda gets things and understands how they work. most people on youtube will harp on the technical aspects, but not really explore the psychology of the situation.
it helps she's genuinely funny, too.
Jeremy Jones I mean defeminizing isn’t really the issue with the she-ra reboot or the doll line as much as it is a lack of compelling or interesting material to back them. feminizing won’t inherently make either properties better :/
@Jeremy Jones did you even watch the video
@Jeremy Jones Lol you're talking out of your hole. No idea where you're even getting the unfeminine thing from.
"Canonically Kylo Ren is a never nude." Jenny, you are a treasure.
As someone who played with colourful beads as a child, I can confirm this is a thing. I had a self insert bead who dealt with all the deep psychological problems in the story.
i didn't play with beads as a kid, but i did play with bottle caps. i would draw little faces and stuff on them with sharpie, give them names and personalities, it was unironically a fun time lol. i remember making up a lot of really intense and crazy storylines with my little bottle caps.
Honestly, I feel like pre-prequels Amadala with her handmaidens could be a great little show, like they have fabulous dresses, they have a palace, and there could be all sorts of drama and political intrigue (My dolls loved intrigue)
for some reason (My dolls loved intrigue) took me out 😭
Exactly. The tie in doll line would be so good, too. As a child, I jealously coveted my cousin’s padme dolls. I still think about them sometimes.
I don't know why I don't see tons of little padme's running around every comic con, like I've never seen a "girl" star wars costume in any costume shop that wasn't a dull jumpsuit or Leia's white dress/bikini outfits, but padme has SO MANY epic fits!! That I would kill to wear as someone who watched star wars for the first time this year at age 23! I would have killed for those outfits as a kid 👀
"Kelsey is afraid she won't pass her Jedi trials. Leila likes a boy but she doesn't know how to tell him. Megan found a Sith holocron and is drawn to the dark side and the power that it brings." I love how relatable this is to little girls XD
Megan already shaping up to be a fan-favorite.
Honestly I would murder for a Padmé doll with any of her beautiful outfits. Like c'mon guys it's right there in front of you.
And make them interchangeable across the line, so you can have Jedi Leia or Rey awkwardly wearing a fancy dress to infiltrate a party.
There’s a Queen Amidala one! Or at least their used to be. I remember having one as a kid
My favorite is the sexy senator outfit. www.quora.com/Why-was-Padm%C3%A9-wearing-a-revealing-leather-dress-when-trying-to-reject-Anakin-by-the-fireside
I totally had a Padme doll in one of her gowns! It was BEAUTIFUL.
ajgreen1997 I had that one! My dad called her “Queen I’m-A-Doll-Uh”
When I was little, I loved shopkins, and my storylines were always about some evil mayor taking over a town. He would always kill/maim/torture his citizens as examples and my little team of shopkin carrots and dumplings would Take Him Down and literally kill him. Little girls just want violence to enact on their dolls. Physical, mental, or otherwise.
I remember my sister and I played “zombie apocalypse” with our shopkinz. There would be one that wound infect all the other ones because it was expired or something and then there would be a couple of them that would survive, but i don’t remember if they all lived or died though lol.
I only played with animal toys as a kid and every time it was them trying to escape The Wolves. I never had any wolf toys, but they were a daily terror. 😂
how does she make me care about doll webisodes and amusement parks
because she's magic
@@asocksual4910 Real magic. With eggs thrown at trees and toenails sewn into FoD dolls.
Lol right? I listen to lots of her videos that I have no interest in actually purchasing just because her reviews are so good.
HOE STUCK
I watched one episode of Monster High where some boys are making fun of girls for being weak and then they race a girl but the girl is a werewolf so she wipes the floor with them. I thought it was pretty good because it wasnt attempting the impossible task of showing girls are or should be as good as boys at some specific challenge, just that some girls are werewolves so watch out.
I remember the two most memorable moments of my childhood were finding out some girls is werewolves and the bangbus doesn't exist
@@arlosteiner8382 the bangbus was a significant part of your childhood?
MyScorpion42 yeah do you not remember being sat down and it explained to you it wasn't real
@@arlosteiner8382 i mean, if bangbus was real, it wouldn't have survived passed it's first werewolf.
Thomas Jenkins yeah but when you're a kid your parents tell you the bangbus is real because it's fun but the harsh realities of adulthood creep on and you realise no it wouldn't be werewolf proof
"Rey comes with Kylo Ren"
*smashes like button*
I hate how every joke Jenny makes is absolutely, 100% plausible.
You are not wrong. She absolutely does!
Luke comes with .. Yoda?
Distant squealing
Qwertyuoip 123 don’t you mean Yoda comes with Luke
It’s kind of sad that Disney Star Wars makes such an effort to distance itself from the prequels because it has some of the most beautiful fashion for some of the characters.
All of it being Padmé; she just ate, constantly😅
@@CNWhatImSaiyan Padme is a baddie, full stop! She ate and left no crumbs!!! Iconic. 💅✨🌟
@@negligible_reality They didn't give her much of a prominent personality in the prequels (they certainly fixed that in The Clone Wars!) but they pulled out every stop when it came to her slayage 😌
My forces of destiny doll is Miss Watto.
She does the make up for all the slaves on Tatooine before they go to sale but she has dreams of working at the bubble opera on Coruscant.
She looks like exactly like her Uncle Watto but with a blonde bob and red stilettos. Her bonus wardrobe includes her theatre costume which is just the dress Fairy God Mother wears in Shrek 2
Miss Watto is *goals.* It's now my dream to grow up to be as glamorous as her.
Miss Watto got her masters in motherlogical studies from the University of Servington
Not even a Star Wars fan... but goddamn do I want a rose gold lightsaber.
Sounds so lovely
Jedi Fallen Order was not nearly long enough for me to fully enjoy my beautiful filigreed rose gold and pink lightsaber.
Same
"this is janice she wears three different outfits" LMAO
I'm just wondering why they didn't use Hera or Asoka, they're both involved in Clone Wars and Rebels. Are they saying that they're not marketable to kids? Because I find that very wrong. As a little girl who watched Clone wars, Asoka was the cute, bubbly young padawan to Anakin who had a great dynamic with him, then grew up and had to face her former master who had fallen to the dark side with the skills she's learned on both on her own and from him, and Hera is an independent but also caring person who is a pilot AND has a romantic interest they could market her with because apparently death means nothing to Disney doll lines. Also, they both cannonically met. They exist in the same time as Leia, but older than her because Leia is actually pretty young in Rebels.
It would cost more money to make plastic moulds that could render Twileks correctly. Lightly modifying existing human doll production to make Uncanny Valley Rey is much cheaper.
theyre both in season two!
@@frejo1931 Are they? Cool! I don't actually watch it so I made this comment purely off of the video, lol.
I feel like maybe they wanted to market to the “brushable hair” demographic of toys? Of course you can’t brush the hair of a Twi’lek or Togruta but it would still be really cool!
@@tabbiexcat I feel like the brushable hair thing is sorta weird as a selling point since most of the characters have their hair up, or it’s too short to style, but I see your point
22:16 "Children are very imaginative, if you gave them a pile of colorful beads they could probably form some kind of game out of them, that doens't mean they're a great children's toy."
When I was a kid I literally used to tape fistful-sized bundles of popsticks together with clear sticky-tape and play with it like it was a spaceman action figure.
I didn't even draw a face on it or anything.
I had a pair of nail clippers - the safety kind - and I decided that it was a mermaid.
I had little bits of sticky-tac I would "borrow" from posters at school. They make fine figures if you're bored at your desk
I used to imagine the letters I was writing had personalities and when I erased them it was killing them off
I used to draw faces on plastic bottle caps when I was a kid. They all had names and personalities as well.
My mom gave me a Pringles can of old toothbrushes she had saved to use for house cleaning. They were a family and they all had names.
You had me at "needlessly savage takedown of an unpopular but pretty benign doll line"
*Ladies, get you a man who can do both*
Chikki Vest on vest off
pants on and pants off?
This killed me.
This video brought back my memories from when my sister lost our Ken doll so I had no Ken but I had Ken clothes. From that moment all my stories were just butch lesbian Barbie in Kens clothes helping another Barbie rise her children because she had problems supporting her family on her own after Kens death
iconic omg
I want Padme and Leia to attend school together as the same age for no apparent reason and Leia still calls her mother even though they attend study-hall together and have the same tests.
YES
once upon a time core
@@avery.e.eor, also a Disney thing, twisted wonderland, where a dude attends high school with his three sons
I know this is old, but something else that might play a bit into it is the lack of joints. If you look at the Monster High dolls, they have more joints than the average fashion doll- wrist, elbows, shoulders, neck, hips, and knees. If they want to play with the idea of action-adventure fashion dolls, then the dolls need a wider range of motion. The lack of arm joints is frustrating to look at in the Forces of Destiny dolls.
Also, why is there no Twi' lek doll? Even before I was introduced to Star Wars, I knew what a Twi' Lek was and associated it with the series. It seems somewhat obvious, and they could even use a Sith one to introduce conflict.
When my little cousins have their Monster High dolls get into fights, they just kind of swing them at each other. Granted, they are quite little indeed, and having highly poseable dolls is _definitely_ a plus for reasons other than striking action poses.
Yeah. I was just barely too old to be into Monster High during its heyday, but I was always a little jealous that my little sister’s dolls had so much more potential in regards to posing and style because they had more joints and removable bits than my Barbies did. Granted, it also meant that we were more likely to lose poor Clawdine’s little hands and Cleo’s elbows might snap off completely, but still.
"Every female hero comes with a cute furry companion to nurture and care for. (...) and rey comes with kylo ren!"
This left me laughing in tears.
I love your videos.
Get more of them jokes in there.
"She's just never going to wear pants again."
Listen, Jenny, after this pandemic, neither will I.
Cheered at the sudden mention of Mara Jade. That's so funny in a clever way-taking a character whose striking physical appearance was likely designed for sex appeal, and repurposing her uniqueness to be the necessary redhead representation in a fashion doll line.
So funny thing about Mara Jade, she’s remarkably un-sexualized in the Thrawn books I’ve read, her first few appearances.
Later on… yeah it honestly always bugged me how much Star Wars art and fandom treated her like a sex object
Jenny: No
Everyone: *applauds*
I sincerely hope there is a product manger at Disney, one who LOST an internal debate about the direction of the Forces of Destiny product line, who feels gloriously vindicated by this video. And shares it with his/her coworkers.
"Rey comes with Kylo Ren"
RIP IN PEACE ME I HAVE DECEASED
@@riseagain845 same lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣!¡
Rest in peace in peace?
@@CT7056 that is the joke, yes.
@@diy_cat9817 I don't really get it
So refreshing to hear a balanced critique that respects kids as interested thoughtful people. Drives me nuts to see people pass off kids media as unimportant and not worth making well.
"I do feel strongly about making good content for kids that respects their interests" best thing I've heard all week
I feel personally insulted that Kylo Ren's shirt isn't removable.
The Executioness Guess Ben Swolo wasn't marketable enough
I always hated toys that had sculpted on clothes as a kid. Like why?? It’s so fun changing their outfits! My grandma would even hand make clothes for my dolls, I loved that
*"If you wanted to make a millennium falcon for a doll this size, it would be 4 feet long and cost $600."* (19:22)
Oh, you mean like the lego set?
it doesnt apply because the lego set is sized for the tiny lego figures..it would have to be triple the size and price
4 feet long?
I don't wanna do complex math or look up accurate dimensions here, so just some broad estimates:
If a 12-inch figure represents (say) a 5'6" female, then a 4-ft Millennium Falcon is about 22 scale feet long to them. Like the size of a street vehicle.
As I (vaguely) recall, Falcon exteriors on set were like 75-100 feet long, so a to-scale Falcon would have to measure at least 15 actual feet. Like an actual street vehicle.
This is why we needed a woman's perspective on this. Or else all we would get is a bunch of guys crying and moaning about how feminism killed Star Wars instead of actually looking at what's really going on.
10:15 it's ok after i met kylo ren he said "get out" and i just blurted out "love you too" and he literally replied "no." god what a man
I wonder if the actors take turns to blow off steam. They play the cheery mascots that have to smile everyday to rude tourists and annoying kids and on friday they get to finally let it go.
I had two Barbies and the only thing I ever played with them was them scavenging caves and living with wolves.
valid, my little brother and i had our barbies as evil scientists out to get and experiment on our smaller anakin, luke, and quigon action figures
i had a couple polly pockets who had a butler (he was a Saruman action figure from mcdonald's)
@@ajsnyder6160 oh my god I love that
@@autumnautopsy I think it kindled my love for Lord of the Rings later on in my life lol
Honestly rewatching this vid back to back with the applejack video, really hammers home how good Jenny is at like, knowing what would make kids buy toys, and also incorporating the merchandising into their "shows" and such. She's got such a good sense for that stuff. Somebody put Jenny at the helm of a real toyline with a tie-in media.
the mere thought of Kylo Ren growling "Don't you get it, you see the hat? I am Mrs. Nesbitt!" killed me.
It feels like they had a built-in setting: a Jedi Academy for younger padawans. It could be largely female characters with a few boys thrown in. You could do alien characters. Flesh out all the dynamics among the students, everyone is struggling to come to grips with their growing powers.
It would be a Jedi Academy by day, Sith Academy by night. Grey Jedi would either attend both schools, and be exhausted, or neither school, and end up dropping out to work in a store.
There was an arc in Clone Wars with a bunch of padawans. They would be great for some kid toys.
professorvanderjuice that's a really cool idea! :)
And then they all get killed by Anakin in the final episode.
All her ideas are fantastic here. Her idea for a series would be great, and it's a pity they didn't do that, as even if they do it later, it's already to late for them to work them into the movies.
Unless they run the movies into the ground by not taking a break from the main story after this. (Just let the galaxy have some peace for once)
I agree 100% on the talking and emotional conflict as the primary motive of dolls. Although I don't think it's necessarily due to only the functionality of a given doll structure (you mentioned size and maneuverability). I played with the typical classic Star Wars action figures when I was little, and my two yodas were the babies of Luke and some girl from the comics, while Han was their jealous neighbor until he found love in the arms of this one Twilek. And I think Plo Koon had a homosexual relationship with my Tie fighter pilot? Oh and the clone trooper whose legs fell off so I made him a space-y floating wheelchair out of a cantina barstool and some pipecleaners. There was forever a tenous strain between him and his friends about what he could and could not do after the accident. Wow, brings back memories XD
Okay I have now read many toy storylines made up by people when they were children and I think that children would make better children's media than most adults.
@@alepenagorbe9135 Good point!! Also, revisiting my comment two years later I realize that this style of play has never left me even in adulthood; now I play DnD games in which the primary entertainment is not combat and quests but… talking and emotional conflict 😂😂 I mean the first game I ran as a DM was literally based off of the premise of a stereotypical Teen Witch Drama 😂 It all makes sense lol. To all the other little girls out there who loved the intense dramatic stories they made with their dolls, I’m here to tell you *you can still do that as a grown woman* . Just play DnD!! Lmao 😂😂
@@AndromedaCripps totally true! also played like that as a little girl and also a massive D&D fan now... character-based narrative-driven play is the way to go!
It's kind of the opposite of how I played with my Barbies, because I had a bunk bed, so almost all of my play sessions with Barbies were about mountain climbing or heists that involved scaling buildings and very action adventure heavy with them getting attacked by eagles and wolves and a pegasus xD
(I couldn't do this with my smaller toys, because the Barbies were just the right size to stay put when I jammed them inbetween the steps of the ladder, so they were actually the perfect size for that kind of play 😅)
I am an avid doll collector. I didn’t realize that the three dolls you held up were different people. And the articulation looks cheap.
All of your observations were on point. I looked at these dolls when I first saw your thumbnail on Amazon-I kept staring at the picture because I couldn’t believe that it look like their clothes were sculpted on. And I didn’t believe it because the original price of the dolls-, their clothes should’ve been removable. Sculpted clothes are literally for happy meal toys.
Having this be the first and only appearance of Mara Jade in new canon would be the ultimate troll move. Just astoundingly delightful.
I feel like they already trolled us by almost giving us Jan Ors as Jyn Erso and Kyle Katarn as Cassian Andor. Given how that turned out for those characters, perhaps this was for the best. Still, this seems to be a pattern, so you might have something there.
I thought The Last Jedi was the ultimate troll move...
KronnangDunn if you mean the old meaning of ultimate as in final. It was the troll equivalent of shooting yourself in the head to annoy someone else.
Kaj Raske so many more " Disney ruined star wars" videos
Astoundingly Delightful, Seymour...
For most of this video I was thinking "yeah there's a bunch of guys who don't know how to make things for girls sitting around thinking of this but ig they're doing their best" but then in five minutes you gave three different ways it could've been like 15x better and honestly I'm disappointed that it sucks this bad.
I'm 100% not ragging on you for this 6 year old comment BUT your statement makes me think "yeah, it's almost like they should be hiring more people that used to be little girls, or raised as or with little girls that might have similar insight as Jenny does..."
I'm very late to this but all the stories in the comments remind me of a doll I had from age like 3 up until I got too old for them - it was a Barbie whose head always came off, because she was from the era where their heads were just glued around a rounded peg neck, and she had a speaker in her chest because she used to sing a lullaby. When the battery ran out, we never replaced it, so whenever her button was pressed she would make this horrifying static-y groan, and when her head also decided to fall off, well, she made the perfect zombie. I coloured her in with a green felt tip pen and she was my absolute favourite toy.
oh my god imagining a horrifying headless doll covered in green marker that screeches when you press her chest actually made me laugh out loud
Star Wars High is something I need in my life.
I wanna see Rey being the freshman and Leia being the senior that has all the advice. Padme is the good girl dragged into a drama filled relationship with anakin the bad boy. Han is like the prankster. Kylo is like Anakins best friend but wants to be a good guy when he meets Rey. Yoda is the headmaster. Luke is like the main hot sports guy that’s good at everything. All the cliches.
Really late but I bought three of these in the sale and they fit my weird specifics as a person. I “collect” dolls in that I buy dolls of characters I like and display them on shelves like a glorified poster. So I’m cool with these dolls.
I can just imagine the reaction after that very poorly considered announcement at the fan convention - "Star Wars stuff for CHILDREN? Everyone knows that this colourful fictional universe populated by space pirates, goofy-looking aliens, and wizards with lazer-swords is far too serious to be appreciated by CHILDREN!"
Lady Marmalade well there was the movies where the main character slaughtered native villagers who he easily overpowered. Or the movie that followed where he slaughtered children
Oh or the movie featuring s terrorist eho tortures prisoners.
Oh or the tv show with the villain who was cut in half and left raving mad and cannabilzes people and ultimately he goes and slaughters children and burns down their village....
Or or the movies featuring...mass...genocide....
Depending on the lens you look at star wars its either very childish or very adult.
Connor notyerbidness it has adult moments but no it isn’t ‘very adult’. It’s still a space fantasy with magic heroes and villains. Adult moments, sure, but not inherently adult. For every murder, there’s a wacky sound effect that comes with it.
Most of the fan base became fans when they were young children. I think that’s proof enough. They do seem to be trying to grow the story a bit more because of that, since most of the original fan base is old and can now watch worse than PG13. That’s the problem they seem to have run into. Whether to keep recruiting young kids with for children content which was the original purpose of the brand, or cater to older fans who buy merchandise and in doing so recruit their kids. I don’t envy them at all. I think there can be a fine line but they just have to think about it more.
@@anyareyes2663 my point is more that if you pick and choose details as you like its more childish or adult.
Connor notyerbidness I don’t think picking and choosing is the right approach to decide the rating of something lol. I could say Sharkboy and Lavagirl is adult because of his parents falling out of love, the scene where a girl dies, another scene where another girl has to kill her dad.
You can always make something seem different by picking and choosing.
@@ConnorNotyerbidness welcome to Disney!
Okay, if anyone else remembers being a 3-10 year old, back me up on this... When you were a little kid, and were playing with your dolls and/or action figures, when you wanted to make them move their arms or legs, you just moved them with your fingers, right? I never got the point of knobs or gears or special actions inside the figure, even at that age. It usually just sacrificed pose-ability for something you can do with your own hands...
yeah! you just...move them.
The one I ever thought had any merit was one with a fast karate chop motion you could not do with your hands. But even that was mostly because it didn't limit the limb movement much.
Pretty sure it's a marketable feature not a useful one.
Kyle Frank Yes yes yes forever
Especially back when Barbie dolls had bend and snap knees so they could sit and have weird fucked up legs
LEGO KILLER MOTH
the jyn erso doll swinging that baton made me break down. there are truly tears in my eyes right now from laughing this hard. the savage intensity of her thrashing swing... girl power!!!
When she started talking about how young girls play, I got war flashbacks to when I would make my female monster high dolls kiss and marry because I didn't have dudes (-_-)
It's odd because it hinted at my gay future yet also made my parents mad
@@shetookmywarcrimesinthediv4830 this is the best update, sorry about your parents tho
this reminds me of when i used to take my cousin's justice league action figures and make them kiss and date. i'm also gay now
i only had one Ken doll as a kid, so sometimes I would play that his cruel stepmother was forcing him to marry a different Barbie each year until one of them eventually had his baby in a futile attempt to save the dying Barbie species
@@Jo-sv9io I’m proud of you
1. Yes, I collect dolls
2. I love seeing someone who isn’t me talk about dolls for 30 minutes.
3. Monster High is amazing
4. The only doll I was tempted to get from this line is Kylo ren. Because he’s amazing and I want to dress him as matt the radar technician
you probably have to spray paint his hair, since it's molded plastic. Which is sad since Iwanted to make a L'oreal commercial with Kylo Ren.
@Jackie Pierce Truly another sin against this line.
Jackie Pierce actually, I repaint dolls fairly often, and if you use acetone to remove the original paint first, normal acrylic works fine
Pinkrabbitears 1 I would pay for a Matt the Radar Technician doll!!
I can attest to the colorful beads comment, when I was a little girl I spent hours pretending to find a pendant of power (Cheap necklace) in a magical forest (houseplant) and wearing it to give me powers.
Damn. That's cool. I used to behead my barbie (you can pop it off) and then use her hair as a mop.
I also had adventures with beads! I would organize the beads by color and pretend each color was its own nation and pretend they were at war.
@@cargoloyalty9978 in this house we stan the founder of Model -UN- World War III 😥👌👏👏
My pencils and crayons had social lives 5 times more complex than my own
My brother and I used to lay down our dinner chairs on their backs one after the other, sit inside them and pretend they were a train.
ok. i am not well-versed in star wars EU stuff. but when you said mara jade i recognised that this is the name of a real star wars character. and therefore i was tricked into googling squelch boswell to find out if she really was leia's best friend. well played.
also, WHERE'S PADME WITH HER FABULOUS DRESSES
For some reason this reminds me when I was a kid and a relative bought me poorly made teenage Mary Kate and Ashley dolls. And I didn't know who the hell they were and they were slightly off in size and clothing like these, so they became the dolls I only used when my Barbie dramas became so elaborate that I needed more minor charecters
Most toy companies dont pay attention to child psychology. This is why the only toy concepts that HAVE stuck around are the good ones, like fashion dolls, Legos, and small cars.
And it’s likely that the companies that have survived didn’t pay much attention to child psychology either, but instead accidentally chose to make compelling toys by chance
Not a girl, but I *did* grow up as a girl with a sister, and when we played with dolls, I specifically remember a storyline where our dolls were in college. On this college campus there was a line drawn on the ground called the "deadline" and if you touched it at all you just. dropped dead immediately. I really cannot remember why we did this, but the result was *instant* drama the moment one of us forgot to make a doll specifically jump or fly over the deadline during playtime.
She ended up getting a degree in psychology so I hope she has an explanation for that, now.
i’m very far from a psychologist but i’m thinking maybe you guys heard the word “deadline” in reference to college and you weren’t quite old enough to know what that meant, so your funky child brains immediately jumped to the conclusion that a college deadline was a literal line that made people drop dead when they crossed it
and i think that concept is really funny
When I played with my sister, her dolls were either hosts for my toys (mostly transformers) to stay at their doll house and later minor antagonists (different continuity) as part of a long running storyline involving villains wanting to take over the world and specifically kill Godzilla and Optimus Prime
4:10 ah, yes. Kylo Ren is my favorite cute/furry creature to nurture and protect.
My two favorite Barbies had a lesbian relationship because one of them had working elbows and she was able to hug the other one. And they slept in a pink little bed together and it glowed at night. And they had a little castle with a kitchen and lots of fancy dresses. And the one with the elbows had a best friend, she was black and could do magic. And they had two fairy friends, who were two characters from Winx (Stella and bloom) and they were slightly smaller and had glowing wings. And there’s a lot more, so disney, sign me up for a new kids show! 😂
i c o n i c
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Wait. Winx Club had dolls? This is the first I'm hearing of this.
//jacky// I lost the body of my favorite barbie doll, so her head became an oracle
//jacky// I had lesbian barbies because I had no male doll's. But when I finally had that 1 Ken doll, I still had barbie date Ariel and Belle with Jasmine while Ken just sat in the corner....
six year old me would have loved a polly-pocket-esque Star Wars playset like the ewok treehouses with a tiny Leia or something, you’re right about making them small
WHY IS THE TINY EWOK PLAYSET NOT A THING
The Micro Machines playset from the 90s was exactly this, but it closed into a Chewbacca head. Pretty solid toy, really. Star Wars toys were better before the dark times, before Hasbro.
Kenner and Galoob, how I miss you.
Do they still make small Polly Pockets?
Polly Pockets and Caboodles playsets....
They don't make girl toys like they used too.
I ended up giving all of them to a younger childhood friend. She was very happy about it. I think I ended up giving some of my comics to her brother.
I literally have a video of me asking Kylo Ren for a hug in 2016 and he sternly just yelled “NO”
I NEED THE CONTEXT
@@SoyBioIogia context is I wanted a hug
Upload pls I must see this
My Barbie was always languishing in a dungeon where she endured torture from her stepmother before breaking out, taking revenge, and finding love. I cut up her dress and chopped off her hair so it looked properly ragged. Girls play hard.
I feel like every kid's way of playing tends to be so unique that it's hard to market them to every taste. Plus, uh you know torture dungeon isn't a particularly marketable toy line 😂. But more to the point, kids are endlessly creative and easily bored. You can only pretend the same 5 story lines before you make one of the characters kill your dog and now you are on a quest for revenge
Lol when I was a kid my dolls constantly cheated on each other and started fist fights over it, lmao
My dolls had similarly upsetting lives 😂 I don't know what was going on in my little head
Same
18:49
Mine would be traveling to an alternate universe where the world was full of giants, and would travel shelf to shelf, and discuss wearing clothing made outta my orfin socks
I was obsessed with the tv show Fraiser, and I can vividly remember sitting on the couch in the family room pretending my Simba doll was Niles and my Nala doll was Daphne and Niles was pretending to be sick so Daphne would take care of him
This is why I love this channel. A lot of “nerd” or pop culture analysis channels only really hit like major events or subjects for clicks, and here Jenny can make a THIRTY MINUTE VIDEO over something I have never heard about, is not targeted towards me, and that I don’t care about, but makes it so entertaining, and is able to critique them with so much humor and so much clever critique that I watch the whole thing, and it never stops amazing me. Jenny rips apart things I never knew I hated, and that’s amazing
“The deluxe dolls come with some kind of cute companion creature. Leia comes with an Ewok, Luka comes with Yoda, and Rey comes with Kylo Ren”
I CACKLED the first time I heard that
You know what’s also awful? The name. When you hear “monster high”, “bratz”, etc you immediately get the gist of what you’re in for. Meanwhile “forces of destiny” is absolutely meaningless. It’s drivel. Especially to a kid
"And Rey has Kylo Ren " oh my gaaaad I'm crying
Someone needs to hire you as a toy brand concept designer.
I think she'd be more interested in producing the webisodes.
16:49 Sabine heading to brunch with the girls is a bad example, she looks great.