Bount Arc is Worse Than You Remember | My Journey Through Bleach Part 2
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2022
- Part 2 of a series Describing my Journey Through Bleach
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I remember every arc of Bleach to some extent. But I don't remember this at all. Just wow. Like I've never watched it.
I hope you enjoyed the video and the MIB must've got to you lol.
I'm pretty sure I never watched it. Even with the visuals, I don't remember a thing. The only thing I remember is the word "Bount". If I did watch it, wow. I'm astounded at its forgettableness. It's almost a reasonably difficult trivia question:
To which anime does the Bount Arc belong?
I know for a fact that I watched it but I have no memory of it. The bad guy had winds power and could even make lightning through that I think? That's a cool concept and that's probably why it's the only thing I remember.
@@Arkayjiya yeah the concept was fine but it was executed poorly
I do remember that shit being so damn long I started one piece in the meantime and nearly never went back 😂
the problem is that it somehow clicks in as cannon with some arguements like Uriyu's power loss, Ichigo "meeting" with Rukia again, somehow bringing it up at the arrancar arcs and the little plushies stuffed toys that actually stay and help a little in that same arc, and Ichigo recalling fighting with Kariya.😂
Yeah I don't know why they try to push that narrative a bit odd.
That's not a problem. As someone who enjoyed the Bount arc I think this was good.
No way Young Thug's lawyer casually referenced this arc during his trial 💀
Yeah, I saw that I couldn't believe that shit hilarious. Thank god for moistcritkal, or I would've never heard of it
I feel like the Bount arc could've been much better if it only has Kariya, Go, Ichinose, & Yoshino as the main antagonists, cut the total episodes in half, and have the setting stay grounded & focused in the World of Living with minimal help from the Captains, instead of hamfisting the Soul Society setting by it's 2nd half.
Also agree with you on Uryu's character being one of the good thing of this arc, Uryu in this arc makes a great use of his intelligence in numerous occasions (well, aside from helping the Bounts complete their Senkaimon Gate out of his vengeful ego that is) & I love that his limited power during this arc pushed him to be more resourceful.
I appreciate you checking the video out and I really do agree that if it wasn't as long It would've been a whole lot better for the mental health
Agreed. If the Bount arc was way smaller and a means of showcasing how the Real World gang had evolved to handle actual threats themselves it'd have been far superior. Imagine a Bleach where Chad got to be a Big Damn Hero even just a little bit more.
I hated mabashi he was dogshit itself
Older shows ran alongside their manga counterparts like Naruto, One Piece, and Dragonball, so studios would catch up quickly to their source material. With Bleach in particular only so much happens in a single chapter, to animate a single episode would adapt 4 chapters. You do the math, this means the anime catches up very quick to the original manga and have to suffer in patience to wait for more material.
But Companies like money so they kept their shows airing weekly and to compensate you either dragged the episode out so slowly with egregious pacing by adapting a single chapter or dedicate that time slot to original anime material for weeks even months at a time. In worse cases do both and neither is good.
I'm so glad current shows don't do this anymore. Will wait for your part 3
I'm Glad you're staying to see part 3 means a lot and your spot on by the way, it really felt like the pacing stretched way out so that they would have a lot more canon stuff to animate.
The money thing just doesn't make sense to me because they're making the series WORSE, wouldn't a better series make more money?? I understand it but I hate it and it's garbage.
@@babaG819 there tarnishing bleaches legacy with this Filler it's a lot of the reason people call Soul society peak because they just haven't gotten past this.
@Indifference honestly I do think soul society is peak, not just in bleach but it's pretty tight among a lot of anime, especially this genre. Tbh I don't think there's another ENTIRE arc close except for tybw. Most arcs are way too drawn out and with too much breaking tension like dbz style. Cool for what it is but not great overall. Rewatching ss arc earlier this year reminded me of how great it really is. And then continuing on it just lost the same feeling. There's great parts sprinkled in but it doesn't hit the same at all.
@@indifference115 not really most people criticizing Bleach call out the story for repeating too much especially when Ichigo and gang enter Hueco Mundo there is no reason to have Orihime get captured and make her depressed and pathetic at least with Rukia they slowly lead up to the reveal that she killed Kaien and made you wonder why Rukia would do such a thing and if you ever really knew her at all Orihime on the other hand just gives up and refuses to defend herself even against low level arancars like Loly and Menaly plus the Espada aren't as interesting as the soul reaper captains they never make them feel as real as characters like Momo and Toshiro in essence aside from Grimmjow and Ulquiorra and Stark all of the Espada were as one dimensional as the bounts excluding Koga of course
The biggest sin is misinterpretation of characters throughout the arc, not to mention they tried to make this anime cannon carrying over characters into the arrancar arc
Yeah trying to make this arc Canon was a terrible decision.
Wdym,i dont really remember any big examples of character misinterpretations tbh
The reason the bount arc is so long is cus the villains keep hiding from the main characters.
For the first half, they hid in a mansion and then a cave.
And then for the second half, they got the joke crest thing and hid in alleyways until the final battle.
Yeah hiding away like actual goblins and the main reason it goes on so long it thanks to uryu but his character growth was nice.
Remember when Ichigo couldn't use bankai for some reason lol
The man abuses bankai its really funny to watch
Yeah but in reality up until that moment didn’t he only use it once? Then zangetsu just went on strike.
It’s like in the DBZ movies where goku struggles against his opponents and then he’s like ‘oh yeah, super sayian.’
@@shadowknight1121 damn i remember watching TFS abridged movie super android 13 when trunks, Vegeta and Goku did exactly that.
@@zizzors9314 because it’s true. Like in coolers revenge. Goku fought cooler in his second form and got his ass kicked then he went super sayian like he couldn’t do it or it wasn’t an option and wasted him easily just for some drama.
@@shadowknight1121 When you look at the canon narrative, Ichigo uses Bankai once against Byakuya, only for his Hollow to try and take him over. From there, he's in an emotional state where he can't rely on Bankai without the fear of his Hollow coming back but also has to use it when facing off against the early Arrancar. It adds to the tension as he's getting beaten down waiting to pull the trigger on Bankai, trying to fight between the two states of desperation.
It loses pretty much all of its weight when you go through an entire filler arc of Ichigo spamming Bankai without consequence.
I remember every arc except this😭😭😭. Even the filler when the zanpakuto came alive was good to me.
Yeah bount arc is something evil
Bro TF it was filler? I was torturing myself all this time for nothing.
After soul society arc it took me 5 months to finish 10 episodes( no kiddin)😢
I feel your pain man, bount arc is some of the worst anime ever created
same bro
"The Jokai Crest will fill me with it's AWESOME power" - Jin Kariya
Yooo, such Hype dialogue
did you see the lawyer bringing up the bount arch in the young thug trial?
Yeah that was unbelievably hilarious was not expecting that shit
@@indifference115 For real, that lead me to your video. The bount arc was what put me off of Bleach. I was sick of it halfway through, and I weathered the storm but when I realized shortly after that it was pointless, that I was subjected to it for no reason...I couldn't continue out of fear that it would just happen all over again.
The reason it hurt so bad was because the soul society arc was so...damn...good. The cliffhanger was so...damn good. Anyway. when I heard that in the young thug trial I felt solidarity about that for the first time ever, no one even knows what I'm talkin about when I bring up the bount arc! Anyway. Thank you for your video!
It was devastating to find out bount arc was a filler after just finishing it
It is a waste of time but it'll make you appreciate Canon bleach.
Your audio in this video is the best in my opinion, that could help explain the higher views. Keep it up!
Thanks man I appreciate the compliment, You're Doing Great Yourself, Your Thumbnail's are really good, and your videos are entertaining, let's continue to do our best.
This is my first time rewatching Bleach since the original anime ended about 9 years ago, and man is this arc painful to get through. I considered skipping this arc but I remembered so little about it that I made the mistake of giving it another chance. I remembered the main villain and the whole "dolls" concept but that was about it. Luckily the later fillers are actually enjoyable (at least to me), maybe the writers just needed a failure to see what went wrong and come up with something better.
Yep, it's definitely the worst arc and I hope you enjoyed the video. 😃
They gotta make it a rule to let us know when an arc is just filler and unconnected to the story
100%
If your on imbd or on an episode guide for bleach, also I believe on the dvds it lists each episode discriptions like "In this filler episode, we see karakura cop...."
So thats nice.
9anime shows the episode boxes as yellow
1:54 I can't believed this is coming from a professional A-list voice actor, gotta give props to Troy Baker for the cringy lines he had to go through lol
Wait that was troy baker, no way I didn't know I wouldn't have believed it.
I don't get what is wrong with that line. I have literally heard/read this sort of thing a 100 times from a big bad.
Everything is kinda cringy in dub. In sub Kariya's voice is just badass and since most of us can't actually understand Japanese, it's not like we can find it cringy.
But by that right, I wouldn't feel right to criticise it because I don't understand it.
@@indifference115 this was before he had his big break
I really liked the bount arc and was kinda disappointed that it wasn't canon.
No you didn't
I actually kinda agree. Can you imagine how hype it would be if suddenly Kariya appears in the Jaws of Hell arc, if Kubo ever continues it?
The Bounts are overrated, and it honestly gave Ichigo a bit of character development.
It would be interesting to see what they could do if they cared about the character
I liked that Yoshino chick. It was neat that she resembled Uryu’s mom like ten years before the character first appeared.
I first got into bleach right around when the Hueco Mundo arc was coming out. I kept seeing these call backs to all these useless characters, and I was like who the F are these guys.
It do be like that with this Filler, I don't wanan be reminded of them ever
I didn't know the difference between canon and filler and attempted to watch this arc 3 or 4 times and wrote Bleach off. When I watched the canon story boyyyyyyyyy.
Yeah, don't let this Arc deceive you bleach is really good
I’m glad the anime industry changed from the old days for most anime. I understand why there were filler arcs it mainly due to the source material catching up with the anime and either they go on hiatus or they make filler arcs until they have enough material to comfortably adapt. I wish the seasonal anime concept was there back then because naruto and bleach would of benefited from it a lot I’m hoping they remake both series with this newer animation and just do it seasonally. Because people that watch the tybw arc now think bleach just got dark when it’s always been that way from the beginning it was because of censorship that we got what we got.
Yeah I do appreciate the seasonal anime, but I've heard that tybw is more dark than the rest of bleach even without censorship.
@@indifference115 it definitely is but bleach as whole was always dark
@@kingwill1623 yeah I just recently finished the first three arrancar arc video for it soon. But a mate of mine pointed out one of the moments that was such more brutal in the manga
Truly Humbled Under god
Pushing Positivity
Ichigo In the back getting hype af
Trial of the century
I stopped watching Bleach more than 10 years ago at around episode 200. Now I'm feeling nostalgic for my youth and I'm planning on going back and binge watching the whole series to the end and see what I missed. Was debating watching the Bount arc again because I remember it just being bad. However your description of just how terribly bad it is actually makes me want to watch it again. Like so bad it may make me laugh to remember how much I hated it back then haha. WIll see if I still have that sentiment once I'm a few episodes in...
I do think that it's enjoyably bad to an extent, Like uryu done something and says looks guys I did I stopped the enemy only to be told he actually helped them and have nothing to say in his defence but stare blankly at ichigo
Having been doing an anime rewatch alongside reading the manga, I feel like the manga really needed a transitional type of arc to allow things with Aizen and Hueco Mundo to settle in the background, and provide character arcs like Uryu's to have more time to cook. In theory, Bount Arc would have served well as this kind of arc.
Hueco Mundo was built up through Kariya's ambitions in trying to reach it, with there being something or someone there that could have helped him achieve the power he wanted.
Bount Arc focused a lot on Uryu's uncertainties after losing his powers, and how Yoshino comforted and motivated him to not just settle as an ordinary person. This ended up building more into his rise back to power in the Arrancar Arc.
And just having more worldbuilding elements to emphasize the differences between the real world and the Soul Society. I think it makes sense for Ichigo to have a period where it's more difficult for him to control Bankai in the world, because it's fundamentally different from the Soul Society. Though yes, it is frustrating to see him struggling so much and maybe that could have been handled better.
Ultimately, I think the Bount Arc theoretically was a good transitional piece that the manga needed, because wow the manga really rushed into the Arrancar Arc and it feels like something is missing. However, Bount Arc ended up being too drawn out for its own good, and this kinda kills its potential.
I will say though, it's much better to me than the Shusuke Amagai and Zanpakuto Arcs, which directly interrupted the canon storyline and served no purpose to the wider narrative.
I agree it was introduced better and was good for uryu but the arc overstayed it welcome
Not gonna lie, when I was a kid this arc killed my interest in Bleach for a good few years. Back then I didn't know it was a filler so I stopped watching when this arc aired on adult swim. And the only reason I picked the series back up was because I watched a bleach opening compliation and it was so dope that I started reading the manga. After that I realized the Bount arc was just some dumb filler and decided to rewatch the anime.
Yeah it really hurts the pacing. And overall enjoyment
I'm sure more people would've liked it if it weren't so goddamn long
100% I wouldn't have hated it so much if it didn't go on forever
When me and my sister watched it I didn't tell her it was filler to see if it was just the fact that it was filler is what made people hate it. Three episodes deep she asked me if it was filler. We skipped to episode 109 four episodes later. Good video man
Yeah I'm glad you enjoyed it, bount arc hurts bleachs rep a lot. The amount of people that have told me it's good is honestly astounding for how bad it's reputation is
As someone who did watch bleach 11 years when it aired on tv. I don’t remember hating the arc, but I can confirm once it finished the men in black came into my room and used the deneurolizer to make me forget it even happened. It’s like a long fever dream. Until someone brings it up I truly don’t remember it even happened.
Yeah it does feel that way
ngl a kai for bleach that takes out all of the filler would be a good idea
I do hope they remake the entire show again without the Filler it would be sick
Someone made a Bleach kai but it's only with French subs
When I first watched the Bount arc, I had a feeling that I watched it before and I realized that the arc reminded me of another TV Tokyo ip Yu Yu Hakusho, the Bount arc was almost a beat for beat recreation of Yu Yu’s 3rd season just with a Bleach cover.
I've never watched yu yu hakusho, would you reccomed it.
@@indifference115 Yes, I would recommend Yu Yu Hakusho, but about halfway through the 4th and final season it becomes a rush to finish the series.
@@solarisgears I'll be sure to check it out after I finish bleach.
In the beginning of this arc i actually like it. It was interesting new concept and everything so mysterious. But then they kill probably the most interesting character in the whole arc. The guy with the snakes. Basically Orocimaru in beta testing 😂. After that everything just go down and down. And when i finish the arc and go to Bleach Brave souls to se the Vampires in the game there are not and i am like why😂. Did i waste so much time for nothing. And the answer is yes 😂. Fortunately there is one scene that kinda save the wholo situation 😂
Hopefully that one scene was jokai crest will fill me with its awesome power
Yeah, I noticed that too. The Bounts arc seems to be purposefully ignored by Studio Pierrot or the heads of the franchise. In the novels, and Bleach Brave Souls, all filler characters have appearances (yes, even in the canon novels, there are some filler characters, like Muramasa, or Oko Yushima). However, the Bounts don't get that treatment. It's funny how the amount of resentment for the Bounts that the community has, seemed to be shared or have leaked to the actually people working on Bleach.
I did not hate it as a child. Only for 1 reason. I tought it was super cool how the bounts absorb reiatsu and heal themselves. Still the most interesting ability in Bleach in my opinion.
That was cool but it went on for so long
I like it cause the into was genuinely good
Technically there is a canon Bleach character who does exactly that, Shaz Domino
The jokai crest will fill me with it's awesome power.
That line tho 😂
Yeah that line will always be so cringe to hear
@@indifference115 it's something I will say before killing the final boss 😂
we had to download the episodes from torrents it was a bit painful but we watched them with friends so we had a good time
Sounds rough I remember ten years ago how hard it was to get your hands on psychical anime now it's so much easier.
I remember the Bount arc. After Soul Society and just the immeasurable hype and what's going to happen next to just a hard brake in the pace and characters. Only thing I liked is that it kinda filled the plot of Ichigo losing himself to the hollow within and Uryu losing his power. Though I did like Maki vs Kenpachi fight
I agree that the uryu character development was a highlight of the arc, even though he is kinda stupid in it.
This arc is the reason why I dropped bleach during my first watch a few years ago. I'm planning to try again(and hopefully finish bleach this time)
Yeah you should just skip all filler it's just a better experience and I hope you enjoy canon bleach as much as I did.
I rewatched the bount arc last year, I remember kinda liking it when i watched it back in 2014, but when i rewatched, I actually liked it way more than I did before! I loved it. i think i enjoyed 95% of episodes, so i really only felt like 3-4 episodes could be cut. I enjoyed the majority alot! i liekd the animation switch up in the bount mannor!
Nah man, this was not it for me coming off of the heels of Soul society, the length is still a big no for me if it was 12 or even 20 episodes but longer than a Canon arc no way
I love bount arc bro
@@shannuhxd9409my man ❤
I swear to I laughed at that same line! I called my friend up and I was like bro what's up with this bount arc. He was like bro just skip over all the filler. It was a good call cuz a lot of the failure is really crappy
Especially when it's nothing but fucking talking
Yeah it's pretty funny but also still a terrible arc
I remember watching this and just wondering when they were getting back to Aizen. Then learning it was filler….
Yeah man, this arc took a detour into depression
The bount is stuck in my head but I’ll be honest I don’t remember it being so long.
Yeah probably because half the episodes have nothing of value
Man I'm not gonna lie...i kinda like this arc...I didn't actually thought it was a fillers at first
but for me it was like a 6.5 out of 10
Its Definerly the worst thing that bleach has had to offer imo
I almost done with it at 105
I'm going through hell
I feel awful for you, I pray you get through it
1:43 a whale not a fish!
My bad on that one.
@@indifference115 hey gj btw on this video
I'm really glad you enjoyed it, thanks for that 😊
They had pretty cool powers and it was cool seeing them get humbled
Yes alot of them deserved what was coming
Actually, ichigo only goes bankai twice in the whole arc. He uses it for the first during his fight with Kariya. Uryu (the only good character at this point) helps Kariya escape by completing the Senkaimon after ichigo cut him and he fights him again with it in the seretei. It makes completely no sense since ichigo didn't have a nerf which was explained by Karia and he could have killed him in their first battle. It's just more bushit to cause the arc to drag on
to me it felt like he used bankai a lot because of how dragged on the arc was.
@@indifference115 lol I was just mad because I realized there were two different moments in the arc where Kariya could have been finished off but instead the plot forced a continuation of the story
This arc just went on... and on... and on...
1/3 length would have been enough of this... maybe half would have been OK too. It was so slow and painful.
My thoughts exactly I wouldn't have cared if it was only 12 episodes but 46 nah I'm good especially considering how awful it is.
The beginning of the bount arc especially the kidnapping part was my favorite cause it was funny and it was also good seeing once enemies now friends work together to get back Chad and orihime but once that part ended and the vampires showed up I skipped it and went to the other Canon arc because I am rewatching bleach just for fun and hype because TYBW brought bleach back
I'm really excited to get to TYBW and also good for skipping bount arc, I only watched it because this is my first-time watching bleach.
I also finished watching the first two arrancars arc, new video about those soon, I really hope you enjoyed this video.
@@indifference115 awesome can't wait
@Daisy 🌼 the bleach video won't be the next one but I still hope you'll check out my next video.
The only thing I remember from this ark is the Chinese lady vaguely (to some extent) and how the villain looked like 😂💀
Yeah it's very forgettable I don't know how you can argue it's better than any part of canon bleach
Yeah it's pretty long, but I still kinda like it and love TONIGHT TONIGHT TONIGHT fave OP
That opening is great I will agree on that
its almost 3 years that i tried to watch bleach and i did stop com bount arc its too... dont know how to describe
It's real bad
Bro I liked some of the fights in the bount Arc especially the final battle.
I found it to be a real pain, although it was completely awful it's nowhere near as good as Canon bleach.
1:58 Lord Saddler is that you? 😂
Haha
I remember this arc really well even tho i watced it only once and it was like almost 10 years ago, it is terrible yes, but for some of us it feels nostalgic. Also, watching Bleach dubbed is a big mistake. Anyway before I saw how many subscribers you got, I thought you would have at least 500k, considering the quality of the video. Thumbs up and swap to sub :)
I really appreciate your kind words, I would like to know what makes the sub better than the dub, I understand that it is the animes original language, but I feel more confident talking about the voice acting when it's dubbed. outside of bount arc I have really enjoyed the dub except for orihime and momo. not attacking you but just interested.
@@indifference115 Well, for starters it is the original synchronization. I mean, you judging dub for being bad makes no sense since it is only an adaptation. You should judge the real thing. I watched about 50 episodes in dub and and their pronunciation of Zanpakutos, Bankais etc is terrible, just awful. The fights in sub are infinitely more dramatic with Japanese voices. Bankai with no pause between Ban and kai is terrible. And lastly, anime is JAPANESE cartoons and they should be watched in Japanese language, thats what makes them anime in the first place.
@Killah when watching bleach for the most they do space the word ban and kai and the voice acting is bad because it's Filler and less effort was put in. There is no sense of urgency. But I'm in arrancar arc rn and the voice acting is great. The sub is the original and I have nothing against it but the dub is easier to digest and breakdown like how the comedy is delivered. Sure the translation is iffy but I don't hold that against it.
I'm not saying I don't watch sub anime but I enjoy a lot of the dub voice actors in bleach outside of Filler.
I don't want to start an argument but I judge the voice acting not on the translation, but on the quality of the dialogue and how they sound.
Would be cool to hear your thoughts on the movies too
Yeah, I will do one for rest of arrancar arc, fullbring, tybw, filler and then movies but I've watched one and really liked it.
Please do a follow up on the arc after this one 😂
I promise too I'll be covering the first two arrancar arcs it won't be right away but i promise.
The bount arc is so awesome
Only it isn't
You have your opinion and I have and I say that I like the bount arc
@@maxmcintyre5068 then do you think its better than Soul society or arrancar
Of course not but in my opinion each arc is awesome especially the thousand year blood war arc
@@indifference115 oh i definitely like it better then Arancar but i think Aizen is a garbage villain and Kariya is way more intresting plus Orihime was still reliable in this arc hated how much of a idiot she became after she got captured hell she even started healing the enemy in filler arcs people who say the Bount arc killed Bleach are spreading misinformation
The only good thing about the Bount story was the fact it continued seamlessly after the Soul Society one the rest of the filler just sounds forget that story because we're doing this now like after Ichigo vs Grimmjow
Personally, I didn't appreciate that transition with filler being integrated into the story.
It was truly a drag and I only watched it because I thought to myself "i might as well finish it" since i started on it without knowing
it was a drag went on for waaaay to long for a filler.
man time goes by so fast i miss the times when people were far are ahead of todays limbo
Yeah, also I hope you enjoyed the video
The Bount arc is the reason why i skipped every single conceivable filler episode in all of Bleach with no hesitation (with the exception of OVA's and movies ofcourse).
That's fair
The Zanpakuto Rebellion and Reigai Invading Army are genuinely worth watching and praised by the majority of the Bleach community. If you like Bleach you should give those a watch. The Reigai arc has better animation for the last few episodes than the entirety of the canon arcs.
@@johnderat2652 Yeah, i recently discovered that after watching a fight scene from the Zanpakuto rebellion arc on yt. It genuinely seems interesting so i'm contemplating rewatching Bleach with all the filler included after i finish the other animes i'm still on.
sounds corny but i thought the bounts where cool they needed cooler designs and more characters with a cooler mod power like a warrior stand from jojo or shaman king.....
seeing a more powerful bount fighting an arranchar for the throne would of been cool to see.
I believe in theory they could hav been good, but in the end it was executed extremely poorly and it shows.
Wish I knew this was filler before I started it. The only redeeming quality of this arc was probably the openings.
yeah i agree with that the openings were nice
I got to this part when I was watching Bleach on Netflix last year, legit thought it was filler. 😂
I eventually stopped watching because Netflix doesn't have the whole series and I was scared this would be the last arc I'd see
Netflix really likes trolling people.
The Bount ars is a filler arc, it's not in the manga
@@tobbakken2911 ik, I wrote this before watching the video
if you got Hulu it's on Hulu all in dub and sub with English subtitles along with the thousands year blood war hope this helps and if not then I suggest you get a Hulu account you'll not regret it in my honest opinion there way much better than Netflix and they also have a shiz ton of anime on there including yu yu haksho since someone mentioned that op should check it out I've seen it before but memory is really fuzzy since it came out when I was either a toddler or smol child Inuyasha I think came out around the same time and I was like five or six when it came to America sorry if this was long and for my rambling
The Bount arc is honestly mediocre. Watching it was kind of a chore. But despite that, I don't regret having watched it a single bit. I actually kinda appreciate it now. This arc could've been so much more; can you imagine if the Bounts arc had the same story-telling and animation quality as the Zanpakuto Rebellion or Reigai arcs?
The Bounts themselves are cool, the concept is interesting, even a few of the characters are really good! Like Kariya, Koga, and maybe Yoshino. The other Bounts didn't really have enough development, but they were also a bit interesting in their own ways. Sawatari and Baura had a neat relationship, they respect each other, and that's enough. It's what made this duo cool to see. And Yoshi, she's honestly just a kinda crazy woman who loves fighting, and hates how the world got rid of all the fighting going on, but her powers were honestly unique. Her fight against Ishida really shown how versatile her Doll is, it's a cool power.
Kariya and Koga are easily the highlights of this arc. I could write an entire essay just talking about these two, but I'll keep it short. Kariya is kinda hard to understand all the way until the very end, where even Ichigo (who isn't the brightest) understood him. He was just tired of the endless cycle of battle. He wanted to put an end to the Soul Society and the Bounts to be forgotten, he was just tired of it all. Whether he was unable to detonate the Jokai Crest or he actually decided against it is not clear, but I prefer to think the latter, maybe he realized getting revenge was just meaningless, just how the existence of the Bounts was meaningless. Kariya is just a goated villain, he's charismatic, has a cool AF design (I've seen ppl say it's Kubo who designed him, but I found no confirmation), and his Doll? it's PEAK. Is there any character in Bleach who uses wind as a weapon? No, and is it cool? OF COURSE. Not only is controlling wind super versatile and unique to the Bleach-verse, but the release of Messer, is also cool. It just becomes a blade of wind, and electricity if he wants to. Which leads me to one of his coolest moments: "My power is the wind. Friction of the air generates static electricity. *We call that Lightning* ". LIKE HOW FREAKING COOL IS THAT? That was honestly a cool reveal and one-liner. Anyway,
His death was honestly kinda sad, because we'll never know what he was going to tell Ichigo at the end. Though, his appearance in episode 124, during Ichigo's training with the Vizards, was extremely unexpected. But ironically enough, despite being outside the Bounts arc, this is probably Kariya's coolest moment. His monologue is perfect and makes insane sense, in other animes, pieces of media, and even in the real world. His appearance in that canon episode makes me wish so hard that he was canon. Kariya is just so cool. But I've noticed that the Bounts arc seems to be purposefully ignored by Studio Pierrot or the heads of the franchise. In the novels, and Bleach Brave Souls, all filler characters have appearances (yes, even in the canon novels, there are some filler characters, like Muramasa, or Oko Yushima). However, the Bounts don't get that treatment. It's funny how the amount of resentment for the Bounts that the community has, seemed to be shared or have leaked to the actually people working on Bleach.
Now Gô Koga, the last Bount. He's a very wise man, and his relationship with his Doll is also admirable. They had such an close bond, and when she broke, it's clear how saddened Koga was. I've used all my creative juices to write about Kariya, so I don't have much to say about Koga, but he was cool too. Definitely the best character alongside Kariya. But lemme say this, can you imagine if the Bounts appeared in the Hell arc? or at least Kariya? Sure, most people would hate it, but I would love it. Kariya is goated.
As for the voice acting... it's kinda a "you" problem. The original sub has no problem with voice acting throughout the entire arc. Seiyuus always give more effort than the rest of the world, so it makes sense. And the dialogue in anime is always exaggerated, but in sub, no one bats an eye. I just think with the way dialogue is written in anime, it doesn't translate well to English or other languages.
Anyway, that's my feedback. Can't wait to hear you thoughts on the Zanpakuto Rebellion and Reigai arc, as those fillers are just SUPER GOOD. I said the Bounts were mediocre, but those arcs are honestly just worth watching, even on a first watchthrough. Oh and there's the Amagai New Captain arc, but I think it's a bit less interesting than the Bounts. However Shusuke Amagai is a cool character, he has a neat Shikai and very interesting Bankai. You'll see when you watch it.
Btw, I'm making a meme with Kariya in it that is taking a bunch of time, but I'll link it to you when it's done, cuz' i think it'll be funny, lol. Oh and in response to the title of your vid, I actually think the Bount arc is better than I remembered ^^'
Once again, I respect your opinion if entirely up to how you feel, I understand that the English dialogues isn't great but especially so in the bount arc, I also just generally think it went on to long for my liking. I think it is an important arc to watch to really appreciate the greatness of Canon bleach. Also, I am looking forward to when you finish your video.
Someone else does use wind
@@indifference115 yeah I feel like if the pacing was a bit faster, and that it had 30 episodes instead of 42, it'd be much better. I'm also considering making a recut of the arc one day, I'll have to see if it's too difficult or not tho, but I think a recut of the Bount arc, if done properly, could actually make it worth watching. What are your thoughts on this?
@@kodywill5441wait who
The only character name that I could remember from the Bount arc was Kariya-sama.
It is pretty forgettable.
Lol😂😅I forgot about the bount in it all like they don't exist to me until today because my brother and me were talking about bleach
Yeah there pretty forgettable if they weren't in bleach the anime would probably be looked on more favourably
When your trying to forget this Arc exists and this dude makes a video reminding you 💀
BOUNT IS ARC
Sorry for giving you such bad PTSD, i do hope you liked the video though other than that.
How is bad it's actually interesting and a fun watch if you give it a chance sure it's long but the concept is cool and the execution wasn't too bad in my opinion underrated
I really didn't enjoy just how cookie cutter and uninspired it was compared to soul society but to each their own
The only good thing that came out of the Bount Arc was the 3 new talking toys
Agree
Oh gosh, NO! I kinda liked them in the Bount Arc but I HATED how they were shoved at the start of the Arrancar arc, making the fight be nothing like the manga and then just... disappear forever
I remember when i finally finished the bount arc, i honestly was like "holy shit, that was bad. Still not as boring a bourto though"😂
Haha rip boruto but yeah this arc sucked
It always confuses me how people will tear the Bount arc to shreds then be unable to see the same flaws in the Arrancar arc immediately after it.
I'm interested to know what flaws you mean specifically as I'm only one ep 194, rn.
@@indifference115 It's repetitive, largely full of fat and takes forever to get going. I can't really go into it fully because a large amount of shennanigans are still waiting for you. The worst is yet to come.
This arc is why i stopped watching bleach i thought it was cannon
I didn't hate it i actually liked it but it confused me so much that i just spiraled off bleach
Well now you know
This was the time anime series had to be aired weekly
Yeah I know and it show with just how overworked the staff where and to try and pad the story out with Filler.
This is much better than the mess that was the hueco mundo fillers, at least i can just skip all the bount fillers in one swoop
True, hueco mondo Filler are harder to skip but I enjoyed some of them because they were one off episodes
0:56 🤣🤣 that’s when I knew I had to skip it
Yeah 100% certified garbage
I’m thinking about rewatch Bleach… but I will speak the fillers arc lol
Good idea it's cuts down episodes from 366 to about 200 so alot.
bro u are hilarious this is so raw
Thanks I appreciate that🙏
Regardless, i love concepts of the bounts and their powers. So i can't dislike it too much.
I see where your coming from I just wish it was better executed
When I first saw this arc, I didnt realize it was filler 😐
What were your thoughts on it and I hope you enjoyed the video.
@@indifference115 I honestly didnt mind the bount arc. I dont really think it killed Bleach. It has some good character development stages, like Ichigos hollowfication being revealed. It flows nicely with the main story. Other arcs like the Muramasa Sword Beast arc totally break away from the main story out of nowhere.
When are we getting the bount arc one shot fat book
Hey that would be pretty funny
Not all filler is bad but the Bound Arc is long as hell and pointless ans csbt understandnhow people put it over something like the FullBringer arcbwich is 1) not filler 2) explains SO MUCH that had no answer before, or even the Gotei invasion arc, wich was filler but not as long, decently pace and I liked Kageroza as an enemy and giving a bit of depth to Kon
Yeah the disrespect for the fullbring arc is crazy, i haven't watched it but i know theres no way its as bad as the bount arc.
I remember watching this arc and also I don't even know about what fillers means. It was little boring for me but mod soul carry the arc.
And karia was also a good villain his back was like a Naruto villains.
Over all arc was mid..
Painfully boring for me, if You don't know what Filler is, it's basically story and plots points that aren't Canon and didn't happen in the manga.
@@nmr7203 man was doing his research
Odd that you should say that. Kariya shares the same English voice actor with Pain.
@@AdmarilDarius lol what a coincidence 😂
for new people just get them to watch this arc first, then the s1-3, then move to season 5.
I feel like with Filler it's best to skip them considering how much they ruin the pacing and then when you finish bleach you can bo back and watch it later, just my opinion though.
@@indifference115 True, however, there is a way to trick the brain (not everyone) into getting into the show, and all I usually do with my friend is show them the low-end filter and then introduce the rest (risky if they don't get bored by the timeline of the filler). The reason why is because the quality after season 2 decreases when entering this arc, so assuming that it would "feel" more like an upgrade after leaving that arc, it would be more "refreshing" to be introduced to the actual plot.
This is literally me. I wouldn't say bount arc was bad... But it definitely over stayed its welcome. Like think about the bount guy that survived the whole arc. Yet hes never heard from again. Thats basically the whole arc. It over stayed its welcome and left over nothing meaningful to get a second chance. For me it what just way to long of a filler arc. Like how does a filler arc get a fakeout arc lol.
Yeah it's really stupid and doesn't deserve a place in bleach if it was cut out people would look back more fondly on bleach
True
In realtime, once I realized it was filler, I tuned out until it was over.
No shame in that, it was a terrible experience
I didn't watch the bount arc until i hit my 30s. I like it
Well respect for enjoying the suffering
not gonna lie, i like Bount Arc, there is some cool moments, and i see it as more as hysteria, since a lot of things that you said about it that is bad, a lot of them were in Bleach since the beggining, like animation and bad voice acting (that depends heavily on the language you are watching), the length is in fact annoying for the people who wanted to see the canon, and couldn't just drop the arc, but the story is not that bad, especially if you consider you are watching Bleach, lack of comedy are completaly as something bad is something completaly subjective.
But when a story so regularly involves comedy then strips it away in this Filler it sticks out and takes away an integral of the series
you think thats bad
dressrosa was a 4 year long arc
covering 1 day of in-universe time
it introduces 100 new characters
ends with a beam struggler punch
and never talks about them again
What arc is that from sounds awful
@@indifference115 ONE PIECE LMAO
the manga version of this was stil 3 to 4 bibles (multiple thousands of pages) thick back to back
Back before I really understood what filler was -- I hated this arc so much.
Yeah it is a horrible experience, and considering it came off of such a hype moment it hurt even more to watch.
I have been watching bleach and I was about to give up, im a couple episodes through the bount arc but im gonna skip it. im just disappointed because my friends seem to really love bleach but I don't see it so far
I would skip this filler and see how it picks up from there myself personally soul society is good but it only gets better after that arc and the bount filler. Would suggest filler guide to avoid fillers to have a smooth experience with the anime.
the only thing I enjoyed about this arc was the ending theme song..... it was the worst year of my teenage life.
The only saving grace for the arc.
I HATED THIS ARC! I almost stopped watching bleach back then. I think the thing that pissed me off the most, was the fact that they reused every known attacks in fights, and even the animation. I just remember this metal "doll" guy. So annoying.
definitely a rough watch, what kept me going was the goofy dialogue in the dub, pretty funny just how bad it could be sometimes.
When I first started watching Bleach, my friend told me to skip this arc. I wish I listened to him
Yeah there is very little redeeming about bount arc.
I saw the bount arc,not knowing anything about Filler. Until I finished it😢.
So I WAS A CLEAN SLATE. The biunt arc DIDNT NEED TWO SEASONS. All the fillernin bleach has at its core " showing the wrongs of soul society" the best part was the end because it balanced how power can corrupt, and how it can be for good.
Ichinose and kenpachi was another one I liked. 5 ep at top tho
Yeah the filler has elements I liked but it overstayed it welcome and some
@@indifference115 the understatement of the century
Listen. I watched Bleach as it came out, i watched EVERY episode the day it came out. I don't remember this arc at fucking all
The MIB got to you bruh
I don't understand why people don't just skip the filllers.
Because you always eat your vegetables before you get to the dessert.
@@indifference115 can't relate.
@@Alain7896 damn you lived the good life
TV, these kind of anime came out when TV was the thing.
now that streaming services are more popular we rarely see filler arcs or episodes because we control what we watch.
I rewatched it. It’s not that bad. Like I admit it’s super slow, like really really slow, but I like the arc. When I watched it as a kid, I really liked it, but I agree it felt super super long. But aside from that, really fun arc . And eng dub is ass, idk what you want lol, dub’s other than the original dub are generally done pretty lazily. I never really had an issue with the animation, like it isn’t super super good, but it’s still enjoyable, and yeah I agree the character designs did go down, but it’s still OK. I don’t really need the humour personally for the arc, but yeah the random goofy moments do stand out a lot which can kill the mood. The story is super generic and yeah again it takes super long which sucks. But I’m still a fan of it. I liked the whole concept of dolls, people can say it’s just another zanpakuto thing, but like, almost every power in bleach has a release call, so it’s not a copy. People can have their beef with it, just don’t involve me cause I’m not gonna be on your side. It wasn’t peak, but it was enjoyable for me.
It's a matter of perspective and from my perspective it's the worst thing bleach ever created
I skipped all the filler in Bleach. I do not regret my decision.
You have not, but I have
when i watched the arc the only thing i do remember would be the guy who has the mohawk summoning his ability and the interaction with ichigo's hollowified state but only remember a few fights and just like that i forgot the rest after finishing the arc
Its a rough ride to get through.
@@indifference115 oh yeah and when I got bored of all the explanations and terrible moments I just straight up skipped those scenes or the episodes entirely
@preston affleck that's entirely fair, man, it was really bad, I also really do appreciate you watching my video as well it means the world to know someone is watching my video, I do hope you enjoyed it
@@indifference115 I enjoyed every single second of that video just to literally roast the living crap out of that arc
@@preston726 I'm glad to hear that
when i started bleach i dont even know that arc was a fuking filler, thats why i feel so bored and just want to drop it OMG i cant believe that was a filler
i imagine if thats not a filler thats so bad for bleach story
Yeah the quality just dropped of a cliff, which is why fans are so divided on bleachs anime