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It's so interesting to see them this young. They have no idea what's waiting ahead :) I appreciate your reaction because as a korean speaker you provide so much more to already great documentary!
I’m not entirely sure myself, but I do know that the “blue light” is also a thing in Japan. Apparently in Japanese 青い(aoi- blue) was the ‘original’ color, because 緑 (midori - green) was introduced into the language later. I guess originally they linguistically considered blue & green to be the same and didn’t create a separate word until much later. Although with Japan their blue/green lights are actually more visually blue than green so I’m not sure 😅 Actually I just looked it up & this was the answer given: National Institute of Korean Language answered, “The reason why the green light of the traffic lights is not called the green light but the blue light seems to be because the people perceive the blue light as a relative color concept to the red light.” - so I guess it has to do with the 3 primary colors & their relativity Sorry this got so long - I love languages! 고맙습니다 💜
Well, well, well. You are better person than I. I never looked it up. 😄 It was so weird because I keep saying blue light without thinking about it in the states. I must have looked like a color blind dude.
Interesting, in my language blue and green have the same name - kyoh. And if you have to specified you call it "sky " or "grass ". And it also can be translated as "colourful" or "bright".
I don't know if they've ever talk about regretting being called "bangtan sonyeondan". I know that RM referenced them being ridiculed for their name in one their song "We're Bulletproof: The Eternal". Nowadays they've been joking that they're no longer "sonyeondan" so they should be called Bangtan Grandpas or something. Overall, I think the name suits them, and the name of the fandom "army" really matches with the name BTS. The most common name to call them is obviously BTS but I see a lot of people referring to them as "bangtan" or cutely "tannies". Edit: oh, and they never changed it to BTS, the acronym was there from the beginning. Actually, in 2010, so when only RM was in BigHit, the trainees released a song called WE ARE B.P.B., which changed to "we're bulletproof pt.1" and got re-released with current bts members. That "we are B.P.B" song was by RM, Iron and Supreme Boi. So there was possibility for them to be called BulletProof Boy scouts or B.P.B but they've changed it. Thankfully, because I like BTS better.
I could be wrong but I think I saw Jhope? Say that they were initially embarrassed to introduce themselves as Bangtan sonyedan. I think it had to do more with the hate people threw at them for the name tho and not bc they themselves didn’t like the name. And I think “BTS” has more to do with international fans shortening their name to make it easier
According to member J-Hope, the name signifies the group's desire "to block out stereotypes, criticisms, and expectations that aim on adolescents like bullets". So, I personally think they liked their name because of what it meant and signified and what they were trying to talk about in their music and actions. I mean their music from the start shared society pressures, their own experiences/thoughts, etc. From the beginning they encouraged people to find their dream and fight for it and not go along with what everyone else (including adults) to us to do. I personally never not liked their name because of what it meant. Everything with BTS has so much depth and meaning and thought put into it. I do know that at the beginning of their careers they got a lot of hate and criticism for their name, but to me it didn't seem like they were ashamed of it...but idk I wasn't with them from the beginning and only has seen small clips of them in the past so far. Edit: BTS never changed their name. It still has always been Bangtan Sonyeondan, but I think to make it easier for everyone (especially the west) they just shortened it to BTS. Like others have said they did add onto/extend their name and its meaning with Beyond the Scene but honestly the boys/ARMY kind of pretend that Beyond the Scene was ever added. During an interview with Jimmy Fallon a question was asked what BTS means, and RM said, "BTS stand for Bangtan Sonyeondan not Behind the Scenes, I mean for your information."
@@MewDenise I think they were more embarrassed because of the judgements they were given. When Jhope describes what their names stands for he sounded proud. Personally, I they were more influenced by other people for that name. However, they definitely grown to not care and embrace and love their name more.
Names! My son wanted to call our dog Nibbles, I said do you want to be standing in the park shouting "Nibbles, Nibbles, come here Nibbles"?? Of course Namjoon chose Rap Monster as his stage name and regrets that now too.
In Korea they used to call dogs by John or Mary. Actually they pronounced it closer to Jong. Wasn't cool to be John in Korea. Had to use my Korean name. Lol
Ive never heard of that tidbit about Koreans saying blue light instead of green light. I wonder if the first traffic light(s) had a blue-ish tone to the green light and it just stuck. You're so right. They all had such baby faces here in their pre-debut days. JK joined at 13 and Jimin was about 16 during this time so the understandable that they'd seem so young. Yoongi did mention that his dad was similar in terms of not being openly affectionate in the usual way and he turned out the same. Didn't realize it was a common Daegu trait lol. Taehyung is such a polar opposite. He wants the tell everyone how much he loves them and cuddle his friends, serandade them with love songs and just keep showing that he cares. And it's interesting because even though they show their love in different ways, I've never doubted that both of our Daeugu boys adore the rest of Bangtan deeply. 😊😊 They're both sweethearts in their own ways. Suga does get a reputation for being "cold and distant" for new fans at first but people eventually see his warmth.
8:53 "What's in a name?" Ok, John, I can't resist. “What's in a name? That which we call a rose/ By any other name would smell as sweet.” Juliet from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, Act 2 Scene 2.
@@komerican-og Agreed! And speaking of great Shakespearian lines, I'm fairly sure that RM quoted "the future is an undiscovered country" from Hamlet during his Sept 2021 speech at the UN. RM spoke in Korean; the UN translator rendered it as "the future is unexplored territory." Sounds an awful lot like Hamlet to me. Unless RM is secretly a Star Trek fan and picked up the line there ...
For me, even as a 45 yo, I think if a young band came out as Bulletproof Boy Scouts I would think it was cool. It's different, edgy but also soft and innocent. It would intrigue me, I think. At least, for me personally, I have wondered why they were teased so much for their name... Maybe it's just me.
In hindsight, a genius move. At the time, it just sounded so different to others. Korea has no guns so bullet proof I guess didn't resonate with people of that time.
@@komerican-og That totally makes sense. There isn't much gun violence in Canada (at least not when I was growing up), but at the same time bulletproof vests, etc are worn by cops so I guess it's not such a foreign concept for us, and combining that idea with boy scouts, for me sounds fresh and fun. I'd be interested in knowing if other North American would agree with me or it it's just me.
@BrillantTina Oh, another factoid that might help. In Korea, Boyscout is called bo yi skout. In English pronounciation. So Nyun Dan is a somewhat archaic word that is not used much. I at least never heard of a club or a gathering of boys being called that. Sonyun means boys and Dan means a group, so people get it but never really heard it being used. That might be one of the reasons it might have sounded weird for many Koreans. For some reason, I just realized that myself reading your comment.
I love this series, and I love authentic reactions to it. Additionally, I'm really loving your Korean/cross cultural perspective, which as a western fan I really want! Thanks for reacting to this series, looking forward to following along with you! Every chapter is so so good, but Chapter 3 really gets me in my feels, can't wait to see what you think.
BTS extended their name in 2020, to also mean Beyond the Scene. and their new logo that symbolizes youth who don’t settle for their current reality and instead open the door and go forward to achieve growth. RM did it too with his name he now goes only by RM "real me". and yes i believe they hated their name to but they came to love it and still use it today even if they have anew grown up name
If I'm not mistaken, RM does not officially mean 'real me'. He said he hadn't really thought of the meaning yet and that it could be anything, perhaps even 'real me'.
@@earthmoon236 yup, he's first mixtape was called rm and that was 2015. In one american interview he talked about changing his name and the meaning of "RM", he said that it could be "real me", but I don't think he explained it more later. For me RM is is just a name, since Namjoon said that Rap Monster does not hit him anymore, RM is just a name, without any "real" meaning put behind it
Suga who use to play basketball in younger days now nba ambassador we can see how he came a long way 🔥🔥
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Thank you so much for your help.
It's so interesting to see them this young. They have no idea what's waiting ahead :)
I appreciate your reaction because as a korean speaker you provide so much more to already great documentary!
It just amazes me how hard work is so engrained in them at such early ages. :)
I’m not entirely sure myself, but I do know that the “blue light” is also a thing in Japan. Apparently in Japanese 青い(aoi- blue) was the ‘original’ color, because 緑 (midori - green) was introduced into the language later. I guess originally they linguistically considered blue & green to be the same and didn’t create a separate word until much later. Although with Japan their blue/green lights are actually more visually blue than green so I’m not sure 😅
Actually I just looked it up & this was the answer given: National Institute of Korean Language answered, “The reason why the green light of the traffic lights is not called the green light but the blue light seems to be because the people perceive the blue light as a relative color concept to the red light.” - so I guess it has to do with the 3 primary colors & their relativity
Sorry this got so long - I love languages! 고맙습니다 💜
Well, well, well. You are better person than I. I never looked it up. 😄 It was so weird because I keep saying blue light without thinking about it in the states. I must have looked like a color blind dude.
Interesting, in my language blue and green have the same name - kyoh. And if you have to specified you call it "sky " or "grass ".
And it also can be translated as "colourful" or "bright".
@wannabemyhero That is so interesting. I guess in some cultures you can perceive it as a singular color.
i love your reactions! it's always nice hearing input and fun informational bits about the culture.
I don't know if they've ever talk about regretting being called "bangtan sonyeondan". I know that RM referenced them being ridiculed for their name in one their song "We're Bulletproof: The Eternal". Nowadays they've been joking that they're no longer "sonyeondan" so they should be called Bangtan Grandpas or something. Overall, I think the name suits them, and the name of the fandom "army" really matches with the name BTS. The most common name to call them is obviously BTS but I see a lot of people referring to them as "bangtan" or cutely "tannies".
Edit: oh, and they never changed it to BTS, the acronym was there from the beginning. Actually, in 2010, so when only RM was in BigHit, the trainees released a song called WE ARE B.P.B., which changed to "we're bulletproof pt.1" and got re-released with current bts members. That "we are B.P.B" song was by RM, Iron and Supreme Boi. So there was possibility for them to be called BulletProof Boy scouts or B.P.B but they've changed it. Thankfully, because I like BTS better.
I believe RM is very proud now of their name. In 2022 Bangtan Dinner he said that even though everyone calls them BTS, to him they are Bangtan.
“What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other word would smell as sweet.” ^^
I could be wrong but I think I saw Jhope? Say that they were initially embarrassed to introduce themselves as Bangtan sonyedan. I think it had to do more with the hate people threw at them for the name tho and not bc they themselves didn’t like the name.
And I think “BTS” has more to do with international fans shortening their name to make it easier
Sorry had to add. I read a comment that noticed that in Korea they intro themselves as Bangtan. But international they intro themselves as BTS
@@CChanHI yes
According to member J-Hope, the name signifies the group's desire "to block out stereotypes, criticisms, and expectations that aim on adolescents like bullets". So, I personally think they liked their name because of what it meant and signified and what they were trying to talk about in their music and actions. I mean their music from the start shared society pressures, their own experiences/thoughts, etc. From the beginning they encouraged people to find their dream and fight for it and not go along with what everyone else (including adults) to us to do. I personally never not liked their name because of what it meant. Everything with BTS has so much depth and meaning and thought put into it.
I do know that at the beginning of their careers they got a lot of hate and criticism for their name, but to me it didn't seem like they were ashamed of it...but idk I wasn't with them from the beginning and only has seen small clips of them in the past so far.
Edit: BTS never changed their name. It still has always been Bangtan Sonyeondan, but I think to make it easier for everyone (especially the west) they just shortened it to BTS. Like others have said they did add onto/extend their name and its meaning with Beyond the Scene but honestly the boys/ARMY kind of pretend that Beyond the Scene was ever added. During an interview with Jimmy Fallon a question was asked what BTS means, and RM said, "BTS stand for Bangtan Sonyeondan not Behind the Scenes, I mean for your information."
Nah, they were embarrassed by the name at first. They have said so
@@MewDenise I think they were more embarrassed because of the judgements they were given. When Jhope describes what their names stands for he sounded proud. Personally, I they were more influenced by other people for that name. However, they definitely grown to not care and embrace and love their name more.
@MewDenise yes but it carries meaning for them at the same time
Re Suga being from Daegu: Paldogangsan (Satoori Rap) is the song that really looks into the regional differences, fascinating. Really great song!
Can’t wait to join you for episode 2!!
Bts themselves weren't really that fond of the name at first too but I think the meaning behind the name was more meaningful
Names! My son wanted to call our dog Nibbles, I said do you want to be standing in the park shouting "Nibbles, Nibbles, come here Nibbles"??
Of course Namjoon chose Rap Monster as his stage name and regrets that now too.
In Korea they used to call dogs by John or Mary. Actually they pronounced it closer to Jong. Wasn't cool to be John in Korea. Had to use my Korean name. Lol
Ive never heard of that tidbit about Koreans saying blue light instead of green light. I wonder if the first traffic light(s) had a blue-ish tone to the green light and it just stuck.
You're so right. They all had such baby faces here in their pre-debut days. JK joined at 13 and Jimin was about 16 during this time so the understandable that they'd seem so young. Yoongi did mention that his dad was similar in terms of not being openly affectionate in the usual way and he turned out the same. Didn't realize it was a common Daegu trait lol. Taehyung is such a polar opposite. He wants the tell everyone how much he loves them and cuddle his friends, serandade them with love songs and just keep showing that he cares. And it's interesting because even though they show their love in different ways, I've never doubted that both of our Daeugu boys adore the rest of Bangtan deeply. 😊😊 They're both sweethearts in their own ways. Suga does get a reputation for being "cold and distant" for new fans at first but people eventually see his warmth.
As always the intent and heart are what matters.
First gen Super Junior sounds funny but they are still great
As an international ARMY, I keep calling them Bangtan no matter how much they say BTS because it sounds phonetically better to me somehow. 😬
8:53 "What's in a name?" Ok, John, I can't resist. “What's in a name? That which we call a rose/ By any other name would smell as sweet.” Juliet from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, Act 2 Scene 2.
Oh... Same here. I couldn't resist either. One of my favorite lines.
@@komerican-og Agreed! And speaking of great Shakespearian lines, I'm fairly sure that RM quoted "the future is an undiscovered country" from Hamlet during his Sept 2021 speech at the UN. RM spoke in Korean; the UN translator rendered it as "the future is unexplored territory." Sounds an awful lot like Hamlet to me. Unless RM is secretly a Star Trek fan and picked up the line there ...
@@lattelover5471 Hamlet gotta be...the one. Though I also kinda wish he was a trekie..
For me, even as a 45 yo, I think if a young band came out as Bulletproof Boy Scouts I would think it was cool. It's different, edgy but also soft and innocent. It would intrigue me, I think. At least, for me personally, I have wondered why they were teased so much for their name... Maybe it's just me.
In hindsight, a genius move. At the time, it just sounded so different to others. Korea has no guns so bullet proof I guess didn't resonate with people of that time.
@@komerican-og That totally makes sense. There isn't much gun violence in Canada (at least not when I was growing up), but at the same time bulletproof vests, etc are worn by cops so I guess it's not such a foreign concept for us, and combining that idea with boy scouts, for me sounds fresh and fun. I'd be interested in knowing if other North
American would agree with me or it it's just me.
@BrillantTina Oh, another factoid that might help. In Korea, Boyscout is called bo yi skout. In English pronounciation. So Nyun Dan is a somewhat archaic word that is not used much. I at least never heard of a club or a gathering of boys being called that. Sonyun means boys and Dan means a group, so people get it but never really heard it being used. That might be one of the reasons it might have sounded weird for many Koreans. For some reason, I just realized that myself reading your comment.
I love this series, and I love authentic reactions to it. Additionally, I'm really loving your Korean/cross cultural perspective, which as a western fan I really want! Thanks for reacting to this series, looking forward to following along with you! Every chapter is so so good, but Chapter 3 really gets me in my feels, can't wait to see what you think.
BTS extended their name in 2020, to also mean Beyond the Scene. and their new logo that symbolizes youth who don’t settle for their current reality and instead open the door and go forward to achieve growth. RM did it too with his name he now goes only by RM "real me". and yes i believe they hated their name to but they came to love it and still use it today even if they have anew grown up name
right, but they never use the extended name, just BTS, Bangtan or full korean name
If I'm not mistaken, RM does not officially mean 'real me'. He said he hadn't really thought of the meaning yet and that it could be anything, perhaps even 'real me'.
@@earthmoon236 yup, he's first mixtape was called rm and that was 2015. In one american interview he talked about changing his name and the meaning of "RM", he said that it could be "real me", but I don't think he explained it more later. For me RM is is just a name, since Namjoon said that Rap Monster does not hit him anymore, RM is just a name, without any "real" meaning put behind it
"Beyond The Scene" is meaning of their logo, if you didnt notice
blue light?! thats so odd!
I didn't even notice it until I was saying it English in US. Odd..Very odd.
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