I spectated a Soldier 76 who CAN'T STOP DE-RANKING...
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There is no way this is plat 5... I refuse to believe that.
It is... I had a Zarya in Plat that kept walking into a turret Bastion. And most DPS play middle of the main... And people can't not shoot a Zarya bubble in there. The amount of TANKS asking for a MERCY pocket from supports is amusing. And the amount of MERCY TANK DUOS with agressive tank while Mercy healbots only IS INSANE in that elo.
That's not how the rank system works. His displayed rank is Plat 5, but his actual MMR is far lower. The MMR is what matches you in lobbies, most likely this is a silver lobby and his displayed rank just hasn't caught up yet cus he's a new player who hasn't played much comp yet.
Don't worry, this is not a Plat 5 match. Just wonky SR/MMR mismatch for new players.
@@Real_MisterSir It is a Plat 5 lobby. I've been through all the ranks and steadily climbed from Bronze 5 to Dia 5 one by one. This is what this is. The average rank of the lobby was, indeed, Plat. Many Plat players play like this. This is the average low Plat high Gold experience. It only gets better at Plat 3-2.
Why is my gold 1 lobbies way sweatier than this
@@satamiko Real. Plat was absolute hell to get through because every match was much like this.
I swear for some reason people in Plat just turn to literal bots.
Dude this Soldier is aiming with a steering wheel I swear to god
LMAOOO
I audibly laughed at this
I used to try and play games with a steering wheel as a challenge when I was a kid
*Gyro enters chat*
Bro for real! I know I'm bad with my aim but this was on a whole another level...it's like watching Bronze. If he's deranking then he must have changed something in his gear like a new table, new mouse, new mouse settings that affects his aim like this while in plat...
If I had a dollar for every time a player in these reviews makes a positioning based error, I'd have enough money to buy a cartridge of Pokemon Platinum off the internet without having to sell one of my kidneys.
This is my biggest problem, every time I think I’m in a good spot I get hammered, I’m only in high gold cause I have good aim, I have bronze game sense and no idea where to stand most of the time, I feel like Will Farrell on Taladega nights not knowing what to do with my hands lol😂
@@jamesboyce9510 I’m the complete opposite. I have at least diamond game sense, but silver aim 😅
I’m currently plat 3 for my main role. Just can’t seem to rank up bc of my aim, and teammates who throw
@@Sushie55i know you deeply don’t care but I went frome gold 1 to platinum 3 today.
@@alexdahmane7025 Why wouldn't I care about that? That's great
Platinum is only 18$ at walmart tho?
I'm in plat and idk if I deserve to be in plat but this felt like a bronze game on double speed. I've never had a game that played like this even when my team got steamrolled.
like honestly the same, my silver lobbies are even better
then these
this is console plat, not pc
@@cooltwittertagI’m console plat 5 n this is not how my games r at all ( it’s exactly how op puts it even when I’m getting steamrolled it’s doesn’t feel like this even when I was silver ppl played better then this)
@@JubeJube33literally same. As a supp and tank main playing in plat 5/high gold, I would be 100% flaming on this dude performance after 1st half.
@@cooltwittertagim console plat 3 on support, i've seen 1 or 2 games go like this the entire time i've been plat and that was usually just bad matchmaking or a boosted from bronze player screaming at everyone, idk why people think console players are in permanant bronze lobbies, WE ARENT
I'm a silver DPS and don't even deserve that. This guy has my aim
@@satamikotbh i got a way better aim and i'm still in low silver
@@satamikoclassic signs of someone who just joined Overwatch from valorant or similar and immediately started to play comp
Good aim, poor positioning/gamesense
@@dermanater imagine my cod ass when i learned that other games have ultimates
@@wintersoldier9273im silver 3 and ive been playing a lot of soldier lately and ive got at least 45/50 percent accuracy on him. im shocked this is a plat lobby
@@eartheaterrrbby i have no idea how the ranking works if i'm still in silver and this guy got so up lmao
Either this isn't a soldier player, or this DPS doesn't deserve Plat 5 ISTG if you shoot at a deflecting Genji you should feel every single shot in your knee or something until you learn not to do that. Even worse you were often hanging out with your supports beside you and if you get one of your Helix's deflected that is a dead f*cking teammate that's your personal fault.
There’s nothing wrong with shooting a deflecting genji inherently. The issue is not timing your shooting correctly, to when you think he will cancel the deflect
@@pibble9207 Sure, if you want to do something useless and dangerous go for it. Otherwise there's about 20 better things to do with your time. Unless you're on a beam ofc.
I play with some friends and I’m always telling one of them “you know your gun works from range, right?”
This is like watching the that dude.
I think it's a matter of not trusting their aim. They want to get as close as possible so they don't have to worry about it
@@Doodfistthat sounds understandable
@@Doodfist maybe need to Ash then? or Mei/Reaper/Sym/Bastion?
@@MrrVladIf they don't trust their aim at mid range with Soldier, def not Ash then. I agree with the others though.
@@AAGEnzee scoped Ash may be good enough, with low sense and further positioning - it's a more relaxed gameplay in a sense, compared to reaper76.
this guy needs to take advice from obi-wan kenobi because i dont think he knows what the fucking high ground is
Kiriko ults were fine
I didn't really think any of them were terrible, if anything, it says more about him if he thinks they were "random"
these are the dps i get in my support games, game ranks them to high at the start so they think they are good
His aim is as bad as mine. I'd say mine could be even worse.
The solution that I found is trying to get some value with flanking, getting a pick or making some pressure against their backline and then fleeing. Soldier has the movement and the sustain to do that.
That actually is a valid way to play him, yes, but if you only use that to rank up, you'll end up de-ranking back real fast once you hit a ceiling.
The solution? That's literally the way he's meant to be played. If you constantly flank and shoot enemies, your aim will eventually catch up and get better but you always want to play as a distraction for the enemy team, especially with soldier due to his mobility.
soldier needs to use his speed to constantly change his position. off angle and get a pick or do some poke damage in one spot, and then sprint off somewhere else. taking flanks and off angling from high ground forces the other team to look at you which makes space for your team. but if you stay in one place they’ll dive you and pick you off
This is not Plat 5. This is Coardboard 5.
The "uh oh, uh oh" when the Soldier 76 tried to flank, had me. ROLLLLLINNNGGGGG!
To be clear to everyone: This is NOT plat 5. Yes his displayed rank currently is plat 5, but his mmr is probably in low silver rn, and this entire lobby is full of bronze and silver players. That's why it doesn't look like a plat game AT ALL, because it isn't. SR just hasn't caught up with his hidden MMR yet. I'd wager this lobby is somewhere in silver, maybe with some low gold / high bronze players in there.
And lets be frank for a second, this player is mid/low bronze at best. Bronze positioning, bronze aim, bronze panic attacks every 5 seconds, bronze target priority, and bronze awareness. Looks like a new player who just got awarded a waaay too high display rank on all roles and now they'll have a rough time as they climb down to their actual skill rank.
Thank you for explaining. I’ve seen videos in the past about this but for some reason your comment made more sense. By any chance, do you know if this can work the opposite direction where displayed rank can be lower than the hidden rank? For example, could your displayed rank be gold, while the hidden rank is plat or higher.
@@BerdDog1392 It happened to me when they made the change in OW2 where they put you in the rank that matched your actual hidden rank. I was ranked gold, then the rank changed to diamond. No idea how, but my displayed rank was gold while my hidden rank was diamond.
@@kaijuu_tho Interesting. Thanks for your input. I used to have a displayed rank of plat on tank and high plat/low diamond on support. Several seasons ago, I suddenly ended up in gold on both and have been hard stuck when I know I have improved mechanically and in other aspects. So maybe my hidden rank was actually gold and I’m just worse than I thought I was lol. But I see videos of like this and I know I at least am above this level, so it’s confusing.
@@BerdDog1392 This is very much the case, and it can go both ways. When we shifted from OW1 to OW2 I didn't play comp for a few seasons and the SR decay hit very hard, so when I started playing again my rank was shown as low plat. In reality I was in mid Diamond lobbies and everyone in my "low plat" games were also diamond/masters players and never encountered an actual plat player. MMR had also decayed a bit so lobbies were actually below my previous skill tier so they weren't sweaty games by any means. Then when they did the new rank display (can't remember when) my SR went from Plat 4 to Diamond 2 without even playing more than a handful of games, as the devs changed the system back to be more in line with the old rank displays and closer alignment to the MMR.
When I coach new players I always have to explain this system, it's quite complex and for new players it can often feel disheartening to not truly understand where on the ladder they are, when their SR says one thing, but their MMR says another.
It's also why you can sometimes go 5w/3l and derank, if your SR was shown as gold for example but your MMR had placed you in high Bronze. That'd mean those 5 wins were bronze/low silver lobbies, and the game actually believes you're perhaps high silver, rather than gold, thus you may "de-rank" from a positive win rate. What actually happens is while your SR goes down, your MMR is going up, but your MMR was so much lower than your SR that visually you only see the de-rank and now feel bad about it and question the system.
It's pretty messed up, but over time it works fairly well. Just takes 100s of grindy games to get your MMR and SR fairly well matched.
the fact that they made the observation about their tank and kiriko ults faults is crazy, like you're doing the right thing, just need to do it to yourself too
I feel like the Kiriko ults were fine for the most part though ???
Another emongg video, makes my day everytime. Thanks brother.
There is no way this is plat 5😭. I normally play casual cause I’m too nervous to play ranked, but now I’m more confident after seeing this
Well this guy is supposedly in a ranked group of 3 or 4, so yeah considering how much easier is it to win in a stack, this guy is tanking his own group’s ranks by a long shot.
Don't be. I'm fucking 3-5 on fucking dps placements.
As early at 1:23 to 1:38 should show him why he is deranking. What could of possibly been his thought process?
Also he should definitely raise his sensitivity (for soldier AT LEAST). This gameplay is giving me qeued with a friend, friend carried him up, then him and friend(s) stop queueing together now he is going to his actual rank and he is confused in the progress. He is definitely not Plat, lower then that for sure.
POV: You're the Soldier that's in all your games
I'm suprised this guy has gotten the 50 wins to unlock comp...
I haven’t seen anybody comment on it, but none of those Kiriko ults were “weird,” all of them were pretty well timed, aside from the ocasional over-ulting. The one exception is the one that got caught on payload, but I still do that in T500 because I forget which payloads block Kitsune and which ones don’t.
How many times did that genji get his cooldowns back in that 1v1 🤣
Healing station is the most valuable ability in the game and you expect him to USE IT for anything other than the perfect opportunity???
2nd best, after Venom Mine obviously.
My god. I'm hard stuck in silver as dps and my aim and positioning is not half as awful as this. I am confused with how ranks work when I watch this. And I frequently come up against people who have aim that seems way beyond even plat (I am gold 1 open queue). Seems like the whole thing is just a lottery.
If youre stuck in silver there's a reason, you're really bad at something. I couldn't tell you what it is, but you're really bad at something. The average rank is gold to platinum
@@ZaWrldoi mean no shit hes just saying how that soldier gets plat despite how terribly hes playing
i play ashe and i've found out that in close battle for example you do way more damage if you make sure you hit your shots instead of firing at max fire rate and missing and also on long range you do way more damage if you shoot a bit slowly but hit headshots instead of spamming body shots
Really? Landing shots slowly does more than missing? Interesting
call him kurzgesagt the way he's doing a nutshell of my comment@@anthonyrobino145
are you by any chance bronze? lol (not saying you're wrong, but you're just stating the obvious here...)
@@anthonyrobino145😂😂😂
This is plat 5? That's wild 😂
Plat 5 XBOX, that would probably equal to low silver on PC
Dude actually plays like i used to in bronze. His strafing is also weirdly disconnected from his aim too. Like he hasnt learned to keep his crosshair in one spot whole ad strafing.
I have got to know how this ranking system works because there is absolutely no way
game only cares about your wins. if this guy got lucky with placements he might have gotten a way higher rank than the real one.
How TF did any of these people make it to Plat?!
I was watching emonggs outro and he looks like a young david cross😂
I have a question , what can i do if i‘m mapspecific shit ? I‘m Diamond 5 and i‘m really strong on 1 Direction Maps but the last 2 Mode i‘m bad 20% winrate or something , what do i wrong ( Moira , Lucio , Brig)
no offense but if this is plat 5 how am I not top 500
solid 6/10 aim with arrowkeys
😂😂😂
12:00 you can’t tell me this is still play play UNAWARE OF WHAT SPAWN MEANS TO THE ENTIRE GAME!
Bro talked about kiriko ult with Lucio out here 2:10
How has no one commented about how this guy never shot at the mercy??
Plat players never do
@@EclipsedSoul4774there are plat players stuck carried by their aim with no games sense. And then players with not great aim, but have fairly good game sense and positioning. This guy falls into the former
@@EclipsedSoul4774 I fall into the ladder unfortunately, but since switching to mouse and keyboard I've been climbing
as a mercy who used to be in plat (thank god i climbed out) i maxxed 2 deaths back in plat games 😭 they never touch the mercy
@@michaelhinkfuss9699 So you're a cheater on console?
meanwhile my gold 3 lobby's have soldiers with average 40%+ accuracy and a 15-20% headshot rate and widows with a 50-60% accuracy and a 30% hs rate
If that is Plat 5, I need a bump up to master
Im guessing his placement put him at plat 5. And now, he is dropping to where he belongs.
Last time I played a console shooter it was Black Ops 1 on the ps3... I dont recall my aim being like this at all even with a controller. It's so floaty? Like is he using a thumbstick or a freakin roller ball?
Lack of use of cover is concerning
Plastic 5 aim and awareness
i can't believe this guy is above average for literally only being able to use one ability decently lmao
3:53 what did he say? 😳
I watch these vids and wonder how I am still low elo. I play 76 and this dude made me want to eat my chair 😂
So im running arround in silver 1 meeting one trick widows and genji who hit everything and dominate lobbies to see that this is plat ? The rsnk system is absolutely broken
High ground high ground 😢
1. Increase your sensitivity. That may seem odd but it looks like you were trying to jerk your aim everywhere. Maybe not increase it much, but get it somewhere, where a slight tilt helps you keep up with tracking. Sometimes it felt too slow and you got lost trying to get it to snap back and over compensated for it.
2. Play Mei. You instinctively play like a Mei would. You go in, you hold your trigger trying to track and you want to tank while you're not a tank. Play Mei. You can play literally the same and have better results
this is very true
He’s bronze for sure, never taking high ground at all, not using soilders mobility that’s why the character is so good.
His aim uh he’s like painting a rainbow 🌈
This feels like my everyday game, and i'm silver 🗿
its like they keep forgetting bullets go far lol. seems like someone who should be playing reaper
His use of Soldier’s mobility is just so weird. He hits it AFTER he’s sun struck instead of going into the building to avoid it. He doesn’t rush after the tracer who just turned the corner for a medkit, instead sitting in place. One suggestion is just, be more liberal with the mobility.
Man's has about 15 percent acc on soldier, thinks his teammates are the problem...
It feels like PlayStation and Xbox are very different
Bros in wood 12
How can this stormtrooper with Parkinsons get to plat on dps but i get stuck in mid gold
If reapermance ever watch this and want a pro tip from a br 4 dps player that's better than him : Pretend your leftclick is your helix rocket and just press in rounds to ease into it.
And stop jumping from high ground like your life depended on it haha
I'm sorry but this is not a plat game. If that person continues playing like this, they WILL derank 100%. Positioning is the thing I would focus on the most, followed by having a game plan and basic things they need to adjust (for example, don't shoot a deflecting Genji, don't run into a Doomfist, don't ult if a fight is lost etc).
And I will never get tired of saying this, please remove twitch chat from the video during console reviews.
Just because someone's HIDDEN mmr doesn't seem to match the lobby. That lobby is still indeed a high gold/ low plat lobby. Sure he'll derank... and then he'll be gold. Getting sick of people using mmr to cope.
@@benjaminseverinsen8713 you were the dude who brought up mmr.. "hidden" mmr at that. wild comment
OW2 PLAT is like HIGH OW1 Silver
How was this guy ever plat. Wtf
tbh, i though i had horrible aim but i realise that he has less aim then me. in my top 10 most played hero there is Lifeweaver, sigma, Junkrat, Moira, mercy, Brigitte and maybe more that doesn't require that much aim so i am quite surprise
this guy has the game sense of a grandma
Yeah when I was im plat 5 I got the widows going 50-2 hitting consistant shots on valking mercys, the genjis getting 4k+ nano blade kills a fight, oh and dont forget the perfect juggling winston. The difference between some of these lobbies is unreal 😂. Maybe its just console PC diff, but this looks like a silver lobby.
3:55 what was the word he said?? N*ggin?🤣someone help I can’t hear anything else
My aim being this is the reason I play Moira XD
Plat and diamond are the worst ranks to get out of. You either have the smartest try hards or you have a whole new born infant on your team
Every day i am surprised at ow2 rankflation
Not a plat player. Aim needs more work. Positioning is too far in front or not using cover. Awareness of enemy position is also low. I feel you on the team mates thing, but there are things for you to work on.
U telling me this is what I be supporting🥲😭 no way this is plat
I can't blame this Soldier 76 I often end up playing the same way unfortunately
How does this guy get to be plat five
if this guy is plat then im gm
I was the healing station in this game. That's why you have no idea who I am
Wtf.. if this is plat, i really need to go back to comp.. this is bad..
This guy deserves bronze 5. Too bad that there is no lower rank than bronze 5.
Icl it really hurts knowing im the same rank as this guy.
It's ow adjustments, when o started to play they put me on GM lobby and i just start derank very fast to silver 5
@@machinegirl03 Thats what makes it worse. I am a console player
bro, I'm plat and this guy is not at all what I see on the enemy team at all
😭😭😭😭
When they say plat 5 what do they mean, this looks bronze 😂
Silver-low plat pretty much the same. I can't stand dps players like this. They make playing tank and support frustrating as hell. Can't wait to see him derank more. This guy makes me feel better about my aim, and i know my aim is trash. I play support and tank. I've never qualified for dps ranked in ow2 so I'm sure it is default set to bronze 5. But i would bet 100% of the time I'd out perform this mess
Nah OW likes to boost people. I went 4-15 on my Smurf placements and it automatically put me mid plat.... That's why those lobbies are pure shit. They don't even put trash players in the right rank to start off with. I should've never even hit gold going 4-15.....and just to be clear im masters currently and plat/ diamond is elo hell
It’s wild had much worse console lobbies are in this game
Egg
actual bronze 5 game sense and positioning lmao
No because why are m6 silver 4 lobbies way more difficult than this wtf 😭😭😭
Plat players are not human 💀
I need help to unlock ranked😢
I play Soldier for DPS and I'm stuck in Gold hell, and I know for certain I play better then this guy 😂so this is really bothering me to see him at Plat 5
It's on console, also plat 5 is probably a fake rank
When i started to play comp they just put me on GM lobby in my fist match, so i start derank very fast, this guy is probably the same history than me
"I lost all my games, is my team the problem?" is a crazy mindset
In OW1 I'd agree, but something is genuinely wrong in OW2. I used to be Diamond tank, Plat DPS and Silver/Gold Support. I'm now Gold DPS, Gold Tank and Diamond Support and my skill level on all of them hasn't changed. What's crazier is that my Gold Tank lobbies are way higher skill levels than my Diamond Support lobbies. To make matters worse, there's without a doubt forced losing/win streaks.
@@RiseofMortals players have gotten better
@@finesseandstyle They haven't. In fact, the average player skill has decreased. The influx of new players when OW2 went F2P lowered the average. Also, I just made a brand new account and I'm already in Diamond on Tank again with a 90% win rate after being placed at Gold 2. Almost every match I play is an absolute steam roll too. I'm telling you bro, matchmaking is absolute jacked up right now.
His MR must be really low because my Dps is plat 5 and its harder then my master 1 games on support. If i had plat games like this i'd be master on dps by now.
HEALING STATION!!!
this is brone 5. i dont know how u placed in plat but u are on the way down.
GEG6Z8
pls reakt to this
im bronze 2 but i think i should be silver if not gold
my team plays first 3 dps and then the just push with tank and instant die
I don’t care what anyone says there’s plenty of players in plat that deserve bronze.
Plat 5 but a brain of a bronze player, wtf even was that
His aim looks as bad as it does because he’s on console. I’m also a console player, and the only advice I’d give him would be to just max out the sensitivity and get used to playing with that.
This guy definitely purchased his account for 19.99$ LOL
it's just a new player who hasn't been grinding comp. Got a high SR placement for his displayed rank, probably through lucky streak on their initial quickplay matches, but MMR has already figured out he's way lower and is matching him with silver and bronze players already. If it was actually a bought account, then MMR would not put him in such low lobbies from the get-go.
@@Real_MisterSirbought account is assumed probably because they had that soldier skin i guess
If this is plat5 my masters5 is top 10
How did they make it to plat 5 with this many bad habits? Plat 5 isnt necessarily low, it's below average but I can definitely see how they dropped to bronze on tank because something thats funny about low level players is they either spam abilities as soon as they have them or dont use them often enough. There's no in between and it's hilarious. This soldier used healing station like that one bastion who never used assault mode
I'm just gonna say, Kiriko was fine, his tank was fine, he was totally out of place most of the game and making questionable decisions, not to mention bad aim.
Here so early
normally i wouldnt be so rude but considering that this guy was comfortable enough to say he "cant tell if its him or his team", literally what the fuck? its been a few years since i played console but i swear plat/diamond looked a bit more competitive than this.... and then the audacity to say ANYTHING about the kiriko's ults smfh