Windows Powershell vs Command Prompt: What's The Difference Anyway?

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  • @ThioJoe
    @ThioJoe  Před 3 lety +260

    Here's the link to the script I made for those wondering: github.com/ThioJoe/youtube-dl-easy

    • @Zanaso12
      @Zanaso12 Před 3 lety +5

      You just have to hit tab after you've typed in the first 3 letters of the file/folder/cmdlet name...also you could convert your Powershell script into a Function and add it to your PSProfile (type "notepad $PROFILE" and save the resulting file to edit later). Then you can run the function with any name you want without navigating to the directory.

    • @serpent77
      @serpent77 Před 3 lety +10

      The reason why PS doesn't run an executable, even if you're in the directory for it is a safety feature that linux has had for many years. It prevents someone from dropping a malicious exe in the directory with the same name as a common command (like "ls" or "dir") that runs automatically instead of the built in command to do fun things like installing rootkits.

    • @salty_lemon390
      @salty_lemon390 Před 3 lety +2

      Can I have a free pc I’m broke

    • @michael9651
      @michael9651 Před 3 lety +6

      Errors are red, my screen is blue, I think deleted system 32

    • @cristieq05
      @cristieq05 Před 3 lety +2

      🤔...was actually how I was looking at your video lmao!!!

  • @latt.qcd9221
    @latt.qcd9221 Před 3 lety +714

    CMD Prompt: "Who are you?"
    Powershell: "I'm you, but bluer."

    • @bultvidxxxix9973
      @bultvidxxxix9973 Před 3 lety +39

      CMD Prompt: *color 1F*
      Powershell: "..."

    • @redjoker07
      @redjoker07 Před 3 lety +7

      ...but more advanced

    • @abrahamalaniz3468
      @abrahamalaniz3468 Před 3 lety +8

      Cmd is actually really dangerous due to it able to communicate directly with the OS

    • @Matt-wu1nu
      @Matt-wu1nu Před 3 lety

      @@bultvidxxxix9973 PowerShell : But im new version of you...

    • @juango500
      @juango500 Před 3 lety +4

      QBASIC: Who are you?
      Microsoft Disk Operating System: I'm you, but better.
      Microsoft Disk Operating System: Who are you?
      CMD Prompt: I'm you, but better.

  • @Falaxuper
    @Falaxuper Před 3 lety +1478

    I can't wrap my mind around how this guy went from telling people to pickle their iPhones in hand sanitizer for free mobile data to making actually informative, well-structured videos

    • @thepoliticalstartrek
      @thepoliticalstartrek Před 3 lety +36

      I do miss those videos. It is hard to continue my commwnt themes I use to do. It was I put Maximum Overdrive into a thing and now it is trying to kill me.

    • @AdrianHoffsten
      @AdrianHoffsten Před 3 lety +49

      I still don't trust him 😬

    • @impmadness
      @impmadness Před 3 lety +23

      He just got tired I guess, it was a different time, more people fell for that and he needed the views lol. It missed the joke if everyone knew it was fake

    • @xbotscythe
      @xbotscythe Před 3 lety +5

      @@impmadness yeah plus with people not falling for it much anymore he was able to take advantage of that and move his second channel style videos to this one

    • @hunzhurte
      @hunzhurte Před 2 lety +7

      Well he actually worked on coding many infamous Windows 10 features so it makes sense that he understands it so well.

  • @TheCreeperyXYZ
    @TheCreeperyXYZ Před 3 lety +532

    The house and background looks lit

    • @Freakazoid12345
      @Freakazoid12345 Před 3 lety +17

      Because everything is white?

    • @AyrisX86
      @AyrisX86 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Freakazoid12345 the cushions are not white so whoops

    • @uwu-zl6tq
      @uwu-zl6tq Před 3 lety

      you look lit today! :D

    • @Freakazoid12345
      @Freakazoid12345 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AyrisX86 Yes, I'm obviously not talking about the things that don't apply.

    • @AyrisX86
      @AyrisX86 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Freakazoid12345 bruh

  • @gosnooky
    @gosnooky Před 3 lety +313

    The .​/ is from Linux - and must be specified to execute within the current directory as opposed to an executable in $PATH. This is to help avoid name collisions.

    • @loc4725
      @loc4725 Před 3 lety +27

      And for security reasons.

    • @scayzee8174
      @scayzee8174 Před 3 lety +24

      Same thing for the "-eq" instead of "==" for equality test, look like its imported from bash, because behind the scene, the if statement is kinda a program

    • @megafan1533
      @megafan1533 Před 3 lety +5

      yeah ./ is for linux

    • @jamesbannon1057
      @jamesbannon1057 Před 3 lety +25

      @@loc4725 Yep. Having the current working directory in PATH is a security no-no.
      I like how he made a big deal of pipes. People of a certain age, i.e. old gits like me, know that pipes have been around since the year dot, as has redirection. What is more, the concepts are much older than linux (a good thirty years at least). Really, Powershell is just the Bourne shell, albeit implemented slightly differently.

    • @becon8575
      @becon8575 Před 2 lety

      You are a chad

  • @Tarucz
    @Tarucz Před 3 lety +434

    Microsoft: We are removing command prompt.
    People in 2025: Only the OG remember command prompt.

    • @redd_cat
      @redd_cat Před 3 lety +75

      They literally can't do that. They would break hundreds of thousands of devices, including critical equipment in hospitals and probably even oil rigs.

    • @jase_allen
      @jase_allen Před 3 lety +28

      Some of us still remember the DOS prompt.

    • @Eshaal74
      @Eshaal74 Před 3 lety

      @@szymex8341 r/wooosh

    • @tallgeese1
      @tallgeese1 Před 3 lety +13

      You'd be surprised how dependant many enterprises, SMBs, and some older CNC machines software are on the old conhost.exe and cmd.exe.
      Had Microsoft decided to fully remove them and replace it with PowerShell, it would be disastrous to services dependent on the 30yr+ old conhost and cmd.

    • @MESYETI
      @MESYETI Před 3 lety +1

      wine cmd

  • @RobertGrimm
    @RobertGrimm Před 3 lety +197

    The things you find weird in Powershell are standard ways of doing things from Unix that have been around forever. Using -eq in an if statement is useful because you can use other things in place of it to do other tests. Instead of checking to see if a string or numeric value is equal to something else, you could test something like whether a file exists or what kind of file something is. That's strange for other kinds of languages but it makes good sense in a shell scripting language.
    As for having to specify the local directory with .\ to run a program in the current directory, that's a security feature that has also been around forever in Unix. Imagine you're sitting in your home directory and you want to run something like ping. The standard Windows version is in your $PATH but your current location isn't. Maybe something malicious put a bad version of ping in your home directory. You want the real one, not the dangerous one, so running things in the local directory is blocked unless directly specified and the system looks to the $PATH to find it.

    • @noxagonal
      @noxagonal Před rokem +6

      I think there could also be an alias for "==" which would translate to "-eq". You wouldn't lose functionality but could potentially make the script more clear. I think I'll stick with Python for scripts though.
      I agree on your second point though, even if I found it a little annoying at first.

    • @user-ir6xh2mx9d
      @user-ir6xh2mx9d Před rokem +5

      @@noxagonal OMG I can't believe we thought the same thing. I was also thinking of "==" for "-eq"
      One work around for this that I can think of is espanso.

    • @ptorq
      @ptorq Před 5 měsíci

      Not running executables in the current directory by default is probably also a Unixism: if you default to running executables/scripts in the current directory, a malicious actor could put an executable named "ls" in a directory and if root were to go into that directory and try to get a listing of the files, they'd run that ls program with root privileges. For non-root users it's less of a problem but it would still be possible to have it, say, delete all the files in the user's home directory. Excluding the current directory from the path means that you have to specifically say "yes, I want to run the program in THIS directory", making it safer.

    • @tompycz2225
      @tompycz2225 Před 5 měsíci

      @@noxagonal there is == in bash, it just has different functionality. It's string equivalency.

    • @noxagonal
      @noxagonal Před 5 měsíci

      @@tompycz2225 Right, that just makes it even more confusing. XD
      Anyways, old convo. I'll stick with python because familiarity and for cross platform compatibility.

  • @shreevardhanshenoy
    @shreevardhanshenoy Před 3 lety +419

    For those in a hurry
    Powershell = blue command prompt with yellow font

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim Před 3 lety +14

      *and more stuff to do, LOL!

    • @callsigndap
      @callsigndap Před 3 lety +18

      With Linux terminal commands

    • @derrick_martin_g.
      @derrick_martin_g. Před 3 lety +1

      Powershell can be customized. Right-click top of window> select properties and get crazy...kinda.

    • @laurinneff4304
      @laurinneff4304 Před 3 lety +6

      @@derrick_martin_g. can be done with everything that uses conhost.exe to display, so you can do it in cmd and most cli programs too

    • @Dhruvinator
      @Dhruvinator Před 3 lety

      l m a o

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto Před 3 lety +146

    Big brain mode:
    PS C:\Users\User> cmd

  • @smft9147
    @smft9147 Před 3 lety +159

    You can't even watch star wars in powershell :/

    • @lavleshdubey3338
      @lavleshdubey3338 Před 3 lety +8

      But you can see in the cmd 😎

    • @trogdorstrngbd
      @trogdorstrngbd Před 3 lety +3

      It still works in PowerShell.

    • @smft9147
      @smft9147 Před 3 lety +5

      @@trogdorstrngbd it's better in cmd powershell is for noobs

    • @lavleshdubey3338
      @lavleshdubey3338 Před 3 lety +5

      @@smft9147 well, I don't think so because thiojoe said that powershell is more advanced then cmd.

    • @smft9147
      @smft9147 Před 3 lety +3

      @@lavleshdubey3338 it is only real ones use cmd powershell is for noobs lmao

  • @zsin128
    @zsin128 Před 3 lety +224

    easy: one looks cool,and can change theme without activining windows.
    other one looks anicent but its faster
    /s

    • @zsin128
      @zsin128 Před 3 lety +1

      @NitroNite72 well I was locking at "windows central" website, talking about how to make light and dark theme switch during different periods. That commend (that's supposed to be timed) changes theme on powershell even when windows isn't activated

    • @ChrisTian-sd5yq
      @ChrisTian-sd5yq Před 3 lety +2

      @@zsin128 So you locked it?

    • @thepyro7845
      @thepyro7845 Před 3 lety +1

      Sorry if i sound like a dick by saying this, but what does /s mean exactly?

    • @RotatingBuffalo
      @RotatingBuffalo Před 3 lety +2

      @@thepyro7845 /s is used to signal the end of a use of sarcasm. it comes from HTML, where you start a body of text with and end it with , where "something-here" would really be something more descriptive, like the size the text should be, if it's a link, etc.

    • @thepyro7845
      @thepyro7845 Před 3 lety

      @@RotatingBuffalo ok thanks

  • @Caracazz2
    @Caracazz2 Před 3 lety +64

    I'm learning english and this is the only channel I can understand everything without subtitles. You have a good diction.

    • @Naids
      @Naids Před 3 lety +4

      English isn’t my native language as well and I totally agree with you☝️

    • @blackghost6973
      @blackghost6973 Před 3 lety +4

      I'm also not a native speaker and I find Thio's accent very understandable, although he speaks a little bit too fast 😅

    • @twb0109
      @twb0109 Před 3 lety

      If you're also into Linux I highly recommend DistroTube and OldTechBloke, they speak very clearly

    • @iyeetsecurity922
      @iyeetsecurity922 Před 2 lety

      I've been bouncing on my boys diction for hours to this.

  • @tooru
    @tooru Před 3 lety +43

    1. There's nothing wrong at all with nested if-s in Batch:
    if 1 == 1 (
    if 2 == 2 (
    echo yas
    ) else (
    echo no
    )
    )
    2. You have to launch programs with *./* because otherwise it's a security vulnerability. Imagine you download some archive with many many files, you extract it and _cd_ into it. Then you run _dir_ but this archive already comes with its own dir.exe, which in turn could be malicious, so that's why current directory is not automatically added to your PATH.

    • @mffmart
      @mffmart Před 3 lety +1

      I commented on the dot-slash notation and didn't even consider this. It is a very valid point, good one!

    • @black_platypus
      @black_platypus Před 6 měsíci +2

      I had the same thought. IIRC, a common problem with nested conditionals/loops in CMD is that all levels get evaluated at once, breaking what would otherwise be an intuitive experience. If you need to refer to something that changed in the meantime between the outer and the inner scope, you can use _setlocal enabledelayedexpansion_ to defer expansion/evaluation to when the program flow gets there, not to when the outer scope gets interpreted

  • @SYS_Alberto
    @SYS_Alberto Před 3 lety +242

    Command Prompt: black
    Powershell:
    I'm blue
    Da ba dee da ba di
    Da ba dee da ba di

  • @MichaelStepniewski
    @MichaelStepniewski Před 3 lety +92

    Command prompt also supports pipes. It just does text instead of objects which powershell does like you mentioned in the video. Just wanted to share that you can use piped output far before powershell ever existed.

    • @tertia4808
      @tertia4808 Před 2 lety +15

      Yeh, Powershell users - put that in your pipe & smoke it.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 Před rokem +1

      You can also set variables, branch and loop, etc. It's just rather uglier. :-)

    • @tazguy371
      @tazguy371 Před rokem

      Please give me an example of piping the output of one command to another, and then piping that output to a third in cmd.exe.

    • @thorbjrnhellehaven5766
      @thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Před rokem +1

      The piping command I used the most, is probably |more
      Pipes screen output through more, to display one by one screen
      Useful when your command/program just print to screen, and has no option to stop for every full screen.
      Can't think of another piping command I have used and remember specifically.
      I know I have used some, but not enough to remember any of them.
      The closest thing, would be redirect output to printer { > prn }, or to text-file

    • @wolfgangeigner989
      @wolfgangeigner989 Před 6 měsíci

      @@tazguy371 dir|sort|more
      it's pretty useless to sort the current directory by day of month but it works

  • @tallgeese1
    @tallgeese1 Před 3 lety +51

    The "./" token is a PowerShell security feature that insures the intended application or script is run from the current directory and not an application of the same name in the system or user path that could be potential malware or incompatible application version that may be on a system.
    Not stupid.

    • @NoOne-sy5fg
      @NoOne-sy5fg Před 2 lety +1

      It's not an original "feature". It was copied from unix

  • @arijitdas7526
    @arijitdas7526 Před 3 lety +78

    How I use powershell...
    "Start cmd"

    • @j.w.techchannel
      @j.w.techchannel Před 3 lety +5

      I've never actually used PowerShell before..
      (No one cares)

    • @jaden8923
      @jaden8923 Před 3 lety

      I only use powershell for ps1 scripts and stuff like that

    • @joshualepdung
      @joshualepdung Před 3 lety

      😂

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs Před 3 lety

      @Lucas Zhu Windows Terminal doesn’t have powershell or cmd. It’s a terminal application that can run many CLI shells. It runs the same powershell.exe and cmd.exe from the System32 folder as the regular “cmd window”. In fact, the “old command prompt” isn’t a black terminal Window. When you launch “old” CMD, Windows launches the a built-in terminal app called “Windows Console Host” (conhost.exe), and then cmd.exe (the same one that the new Windows terminal uses) launches inside conhost.exe. When you launch “old” powershell, it, too, runs conhost.exe sets background color to blue and then launches PowerShell.exe inside conhost.exe
      Windows terminal is a replacement conhost.exe. The actual cmd.exe is the same old one and ISN’T open source.
      Powershell is open source

  • @patrickflannigan8939
    @patrickflannigan8939 Před 2 lety +10

    Great informative video. I'm a systems administrator and I got my most recent job thanks to powershell. During my interview I displayed how I had automated the deployment and configuration of virtual machines to automatically spin up game servers all in powershell and python. Without powershell I wouldn't have the decent lifestyle I have today. This video is a great primer on the basic concepts of powershell, it was really well done. You're clearly knowledgeable about what you're talking about and well researched. Keep up the great work.

  • @f1ncc246
    @f1ncc246 Před 3 lety +54

    7:15 cd is not the cmd command for bash's ls, dir is

  • @enzoys
    @enzoys Před 2 lety +7

    I'm always amazed by how much more information I actually get from your videos than I could ever expect, good job!

  • @RuxUnderscore
    @RuxUnderscore Před 2 lety +9

    To add to this video for those that are more technical. A lot of the syntax and aliases used by PowerShell were created to provide less of a learning curve for those of us more attuned to bash scripting/Linux terminals. If you look at a PowerShell script compared to a more advanced bash script you can see similarities other than the PowerShell-only commands. (echo instead of Write-Host and so on). With this knowledge, someone who is adept with either scripting language can fill in the blanks and learn the other with relative ease.

  • @MrNaporowski
    @MrNaporowski Před 3 lety +32

    Those oddities in PowerShell you mentioned (like writing -eq instead of =) aren't really oddities because as it turns out this is how you write in bash (the most popular Linux command shell) as well. However, in bash you can also use a legacy method with = instead of -eq, for example, but the syntax is a little different.
    The same is the case with adding ./ before running a script.

    • @hwstar9416
      @hwstar9416 Před 5 měsíci

      them being on linux doesn't make them good. Weird way to think

  • @Kris_M
    @Kris_M Před 3 lety +12

    10:26 Of course you can use nested IF statements in batch files. Also ELSE and ELSE IF.

  • @1tsMichael
    @1tsMichael Před 3 lety +7

    Teacher: opening another tab will close the main tab
    Me with powershell doing math: i can’t hear you

  • @tanc_
    @tanc_ Před 3 lety +34

    "you have to use -eq which is stupid"
    Me after 3 years of ksh 👀

  • @ForceGamerrr
    @ForceGamerrr Před 3 lety +7

    The reason you have to type the " ./ ", is because by default, Powershell (and Bash + other shells) will look for commands in a commands folder, like where that PING.EXE was, for example. So you have to specify that you want to execute the command that is in your working directory.

    • @user-ko2rb2ky1z
      @user-ko2rb2ky1z Před 3 lety

      that makes alot of sense actualy

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 Před 3 lety +1

      Also prevents security issues in case you install some malware, and when you go to the directory where it's installed and you type in "dir" or "ls" it would run "dir.exe" (malware) or "ls.exe" (also malware).

  • @yosefgebrewold2005
    @yosefgebrewold2005 Před rokem

    More than five years I have struggled a lot to fix my PC, even I lost some videos and a lot of files I had saved. I tried some maintenance but I got no solution even my window installation was corrupted and I have also lost two laptops b/c of these previously but now b/c of your support and other similar tutorials I have learned how to fix all the problems and my PC is clean and faster than I expected. Thank you for all your support and good advice's. GBU!

  • @gavincstewart
    @gavincstewart Před 3 lety

    Excellent video. I've been wanting a closer look at these two for a while, and you did a great job explaining the difference. I will start using PowerShell from now on.

  • @bernardonegri5416
    @bernardonegri5416 Před 3 lety +72

    I used to not like Powershell's font but then Windows Terminal came out.

    • @Stridsvagn69420
      @Stridsvagn69420 Před 3 lety +5

      same, but I also didn't like the blue background

    • @octavylon9008
      @octavylon9008 Před 3 lety +1

      i like terminals font, anyways im pretty sure theyll add an option to chanhe it in a future update

    • @derrick_martin_g.
      @derrick_martin_g. Před 3 lety +3

      @@octavylon9008 Powershell can be customized. Right-click top of window> select properties and get crazy...kinda.

    • @derrick_martin_g.
      @derrick_martin_g. Před 3 lety +1

      @@Stridsvagn69420 Powershell can be customized. Right-click top of window> select properties and get crazy...kinda.

    • @V-for-Vendetta01
      @V-for-Vendetta01 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Stridsvagn69420 powershell is customisable tho

  • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
    @VivekYadav-ds8oz Před 3 lety +31

    The reason for the "./program.exe" is to make it more similar to Linux syntax. In Linux, without the ./, the program is assumed to be in the /bin directory, so you need to explicitly state that your program is in the current folder. This is the same case in PowerShell.

    • @tazguy371
      @tazguy371 Před rokem +2

      The reason this was done in PowerShell was so that someone could not write a script (malicious or otherwise) with the same name as a PowerShell cmdlet, advanced function or alias (e.g. dir), and have the script run instead of the cmdlet, function or alias.

    • @Lightn0x
      @Lightn0x Před 6 měsíci

      The reason is not to to be similar to linux, it's to combat a security threat. It just so happens that Linux also faces the same threat, so both addressed it in the same way. Similarity to linux is an effect, not the cause.

  • @theadhdunicyclist
    @theadhdunicyclist Před 3 lety

    Hey, really great video! I love this layout of the video and the laid back environment fits your videos perfectly. Nice job!

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 Před 3 lety +1

    I drove my old XP into the ground to see how long it would last online after support stopped - over 2 yrs. I have had 10 now for 2 yrs and caught on well due to the fact that I was spending 25 hrs/week maintaining XP for about 8 months. I have been learning a lot about the complexity of 10 and it does impress me all in all. Thanks for the online help. 👍👍

  • @alwinvillero4404
    @alwinvillero4404 Před 3 lety +81

    how to hack the government:
    1. Open cmd
    2. color 0a

  • @PearComputingDevices
    @PearComputingDevices Před 3 lety +9

    This reminds me a lot of the differences between OS/2 shell and command shell in OS/2. Basically you can do just about anything you would do in command shell in OS/2 shell but a whole lot more. OS/2 was quite powerful in its day.

  • @jenn8220
    @jenn8220 Před 2 lety

    Super helpful explanation on objects!!! Love the analogy. Thanks for the great video!

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 Před 3 lety +82

    It feels weird that Windows 10 still has an MS-DOS shell decades after MS-DOS was released, honestly PowerShell should be the main, default command shell, while the MS-DOS shell should be an optional install, however backwards compatibility and all that...

    • @smft9147
      @smft9147 Před 3 lety +7

      Well powershell is default but you can change it in settings which I recommend everyone do cuz powershell low-key ass lmao

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 Před 3 lety +3

      Reminds me of my first PC back in the day. I refused to buy a computer using only DOS commands, I finally came across a DOS Shell and bingo - sold

    • @jaden8923
      @jaden8923 Před 3 lety

      Powershell is default

    • @KeithBoehler
      @KeithBoehler Před 3 lety +15

      @@smft9147 The real big brain move is to enable WSL and the use bash/csh/zsh/fish

    • @xheralt
      @xheralt Před 3 lety +10

      The powershell is useless to me because I don't know what do do with it. Command prompt, I know how to work. My first action if PS opens? PS> cmd
      I don't need to do fancy ass scripting, I just need to execute a non-gui executable, like ffmpeg!

  • @workethicrecords5901
    @workethicrecords5901 Před 3 lety +3

    My guess as to what the -eq thing is about, is that it looks like all variables in powershell are objects, since you don't have to declare types. In object oriented languages, you have to use a separate command for finding out equivocation, because the raw value for objects is their location in memory, not their contents.

  • @billdimz
    @billdimz Před 3 lety +4

    Pipes can also be used in Command Prompt.

    • @o0Donuts0o
      @o0Donuts0o Před 3 lety

      Yes you can but powershells pipe let's you manipulate the pipeline based on the members coming down the pipeline. Run a gci | gm and look at the members of a file. You can use any combination of the members to manipulate the output

  • @genjimccorkle5518
    @genjimccorkle5518 Před 2 měsíci

    Learning powershell right now for work and this video is an absolute gem.

  • @physnatics7959
    @physnatics7959 Před 2 lety

    This is awesome. I've been wondering about the difference between these two terminals for a long time. Thanks for the clear and easy to follow explanation!

    • @minastaros
      @minastaros Před 6 měsíci

      Don't confuse "terminal" with "shell". The terminal is the program that has a window, accepts key strokes and displays characters. The shell is the program that runs and _processes_ input, reads files, does stuff, and generates output (which is then displayed by the -> terminal). You can run powershell in the old cmd terminal (and vice versa). Turns out, the standard powershell terminal is just the old one but blue. So better install the new "Windows Terminal" which has tabs, more configurability, and a faster output engine.

  • @johngeverett
    @johngeverett Před 3 lety +19

    Good introduction. THANKS!
    BTW - MSDOS commands will pipe output and input.

    • @mervstar
      @mervstar Před 3 lety +3

      I do all sorts of piping with > | < in CMD. Always have....always will.....

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 Před 3 lety +2

      @@abdulelahfallatah > writes the output to something. | is for piping. For example, echo 1 > C:\example.txt would write 1 to example.txt

    • @Preinstallable
      @Preinstallable Před 3 lety

      | pipe
      >make file from output
      >>append output to file

    • @Demonslay335
      @Demonslay335 Před 3 lety

      His point is how PS is better (more elegant) about it. For example, say you want to iterate all files in a folder and run a command on each one. In batch, you have to do some goofy tokenizing and parsing out of the dir command, because it just spits out a blob of text, where parts of it are not related to what you want (e.g. file size and attributes). PowerShell can just pipe a cmdlet version to a simple loop that understands the output without you having to "parse" it yourself.

  • @anthaguz
    @anthaguz Před 3 lety +36

    This is just a 13 minute video... I can't believe that in only 13 minutes you were able to create the best video I have ever seen to explain Powershell basics to any of my peers in such a short time, this is honestly just amazing!

  • @dimitrioskastis3843
    @dimitrioskastis3843 Před 2 lety

    I like it. It clear a question I had for a long time in a simple language . Thank you.

  • @junedkhan4643
    @junedkhan4643 Před 3 lety +2

    i love how you talked about this on your couch.

  • @markusTegelane
    @markusTegelane Před 3 lety +17

    I personally use command prompt, because it launches much faster and I am more familiar with it (first OS for me was XP, where there was no Power Shell). Also command prompt DOES support variables within command window using the SET command (e.g. set /a i=4+7), but it only supports 2 data types (strings and integers). And you CAN use nested if statements, but it requires to enable delayed expansion with variables called with !variablename! instead of %variablename% and it is quite messy anyway requiring you to group commands with parenthesis.
    Example:
    @echo off
    setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
    set /p value=Enter first value:
    set /p subvalue=Enter second value:
    if !value! == 42 (
    if !subvalue! == 777 (
    echo Lucky life
    ) else (
    echo Unlucky life
    )
    ) else (
    echo No life
    )
    endlocal
    exit /b
    Command prompt also does use some external commands (programs in System32 as you said, e.g. for.exe, ping.exe, etc.).

    • @unknownaccount4783
      @unknownaccount4783 Před 3 lety +2

      Else if is possible:
      if 1==42 (
      echo ok
      ) else if 1==1 (
      echo ok
      )

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M Před 3 lety +1

      @Markus that example doesn't need enabledelayedexpansion.

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane Před 3 lety

      @@unknownaccount4783 oh, didn't realize that

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane Před 3 lety

      @@Kris_M yes, but I put it there if anyone wanted to define variables inside the if statement

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane Před 3 lety

      @@abdulelahfallatah Exits from a function/batch file without closing command prompt. Basically if the batch file is run from a command prompt window, it returns to command prompt unlike just "exit"

  • @smft9147
    @smft9147 Před 3 lety +142

    I use Cortana for all my windows commands

    • @quintessence2183
      @quintessence2183 Před 3 lety +11

      Microsoft should make a robot with Cortana built in. Make it thicc.

    • @cscscscss
      @cscscscss Před 3 lety +34

      "Hey Cortana, format my C drive"

    • @quintessence2183
      @quintessence2183 Před 3 lety +16

      @@cscscscss Hey Cortana, I have a problem with my D drive.

    • @k4tbo116
      @k4tbo116 Před 3 lety +1

      Progamermovelol.

    • @lavleshdubey3338
      @lavleshdubey3338 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cscscscss 😂😂😂

  • @NealKlein
    @NealKlein Před 3 lety +1

    I really like this guy's presentation. Not too flashy, and easy to follow.

  • @hassanhijazi4757
    @hassanhijazi4757 Před 9 měsíci

    informative and funny! I like the ambiance here. Thank you!

  • @DTGplays
    @DTGplays Před 3 lety +5

    Finally someone making comparison videos the right way. Great work man!

  • @Stevesteacher
    @Stevesteacher Před 3 lety +56

    Theo-kun... You're underestimating CMD, you're denying a lot of things it can actually do (such as creating variables and using nested if statements)
    But I enjoyed the video, thanks for the information :D

    • @Digital-Dan
      @Digital-Dan Před 3 lety +3

      Agreed. Complete systems have been written in the Unix/Linix shells, and cmd isn't too far behind, if any. Pretty clumsy, but you get used to it.

    • @PaulJohnsonM
      @PaulJohnsonM Před 3 lety +2

      And you can redirect output into other programs. Remember "type file.txt | more"?

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 Před 3 lety

      @@abdulelahfallatah %[variable]% I'm pretty sure is just environment variables.

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 Před 3 lety

      @@PaulJohnsonM Exactly, pipelines are even a thing in bash/zsh as well, but i think PS does it slightly differently.

  • @-_-sneezy
    @-_-sneezy Před 8 měsíci

    you're really good at explaining. thank you

  • @doriansego6809
    @doriansego6809 Před 2 lety

    This was an excellent explanation, thank you sir! Subbed!

  • @numbased
    @numbased Před 3 lety +61

    i really like yo house :D

  • @abdullahzayed7866
    @abdullahzayed7866 Před 3 lety +11

    Awesome sofa you got there

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  Před 3 lety +5

      It's an ikea

    • @QkeleQ10
      @QkeleQ10 Před 3 lety

      @@ThioJoe but it's not blue with yellow! Are you sure?

    • @Kadencabs
      @Kadencabs Před 3 lety

      @@QkeleQ10 like powershell!!!

  • @thomazoswalddecastrobrum223

    "PowerShell attempts to protect you from doing things unintentionally in two main ways:
    Requirement to run scripts by using a full path or relative path: When you run a script, you always need to provide the script's path. Providing the path helps you to know exactly what you're running. For example, there could be commands and aliases on your computer you don't intend to run, but that have the same name as your script. Including the path provides an extra check to ensure you run exactly what you want to run." - Microsoft Site (I cut the second one)

  • @diskeed
    @diskeed Před 3 lety

    Thx much for this -- for me a very useful intro to the Powershell (and why I might have to expand my horizons beyond the trusty ole DOS prompt)

  • @XzaroX
    @XzaroX Před 3 lety +4

    7:23 CMD also has pipes... And you can use powershell commands in cmd, by invoking powershell, the same way you would a ping.exe or whatever.
    Also I don't know why people call GOTO commands weird. They are incredibly easy to understand... Like an adventure book of coding. If someone is just starting out I would argue that GOTO is a lot easier to underatand than a bunch of function commands in powershell.
    Lastly, cmd doesn't have that annoying execution policy enabled by default, so IMO wrapping your powershell scripts into .cmd or .bat is the best way to go lol.

  • @witchilich
    @witchilich Před 3 lety +8

    12:06 This is false. You have to put youtube-dl in path and then you can run youtube-dl or any other command line tool. Or you can use a package manager like Scoop to install youtube-dl.

    • @cladiotto
      @cladiotto Před 3 lety +1

      "for some dumb reason" lol

  • @sophisticatedserpent1512
    @sophisticatedserpent1512 Před 3 lety +1

    Wtf was that intro!
    Absolutely Genius! The way that you stylishly stuck your head out from behind the couch while unemotionally saying "Windows" with no context. Amazing.

  • @__Nero__
    @__Nero__ Před 3 lety

    Thanks, learnt a lot. I'm not likely to switch over to Powershell for the basics that I need but great to know about for the future.

  • @bspringer
    @bspringer Před 3 lety +7

    Where can we get that CZcams DL script?

  • @vasilis23456
    @vasilis23456 Před 3 lety +7

    Piping works in cmd too btw. Also you can just type powershell in the command prompt to get it.

  • @RigelVision
    @RigelVision Před 10 měsíci +2

    The new windows terminal with oh-my-posh looks awesome 👍🏻

  • @n1c98
    @n1c98 Před 2 lety

    Dude, you are awesome. This was a great video. You explain things really well. Glad you kept it super rudimentary here. Computers are a pretty cool hobby, time to time

  • @zachh6868
    @zachh6868 Před 3 lety +14

    I feel real Vsauce with these setups. I like it.

  • @justsomerandompersononthei2595

    Cmd: Basically DOS in Windows NT
    Powershell: If DOS and BASH had a baby.

    • @duckmeat4674
      @duckmeat4674 Před 3 lety +4

      And it came out with an extra chromosome

    • @prdx8543
      @prdx8543 Před 3 lety +2

      No... not even bash.. still not at linux level. It's still far away

    • @michaelcoll433
      @michaelcoll433 Před 3 lety

      That baby would simply be bash and we already have it.

  • @JimHenderson19
    @JimHenderson19 Před rokem

    Wow! 13 minutes and you explained all this so well even I understood some of it ...sort of. Thanks!

  • @ragini2709
    @ragini2709 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for sharing this content.. the video was just awesome.

  • @JadieI
    @JadieI Před 3 lety +6

    Lol I feel so old having my CMD pinned on my task bar.

  • @trogdorstrngbd
    @trogdorstrngbd Před 3 lety +8

    The last line of his PowerShell script calls cmd. XD

  • @thorbjrnhellehaven5766
    @thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Před rokem +1

    I tend to use Cmd for simple manual stuff, I've done "for ages".
    Sometimes making *.bat for repeated simple tasks.
    If I know how to, and think is easy using CMD or *.bat, that's usually my "go to".
    As soon as there are more complex things, I rather figure out how to using PowerShell, and probably using script, to reuse next time.

  • @codesfromsky9129
    @codesfromsky9129 Před 2 lety

    Thank u for this great info joe

  • @konnilol4
    @konnilol4 Před 3 lety +3

    CMD? - Nah...
    Power shell? - WHY?!
    bash? - Yeah... :D

  • @avi12
    @avi12 Před 3 lety +8

    10:14 Not accurate enough
    Command Prompt can run .bat and .cmd
    PowerShell can run .bat , .cmd and .ps1

  • @AndrewRump
    @AndrewRump Před 3 lety

    You can use pipe and nested if's both in Command shell and Powershell. Powershell works on objects being passed between commandlets as you State while Command shell pipes pass text from one command to the next just like Linux/Unix, i.e. the command need to parse the text.
    -eq and ./ is the Linux bash(1) way of doing things. Cleaner and safer.

  • @Samlol23_drrich
    @Samlol23_drrich Před 3 lety

    You've come a long way from the kid making spoof how to videos all those years ago. Didnt think you would be able to transition to a real channel, but kudos to you. You did it, and well. Great video

  • @marna_li
    @marna_li Před 3 lety +5

    Technically, PowerShell is a .NET language, like C#, so all "objects" are .NET objects, and you can therefore use .NET objects directly in scripts.
    And that is also how PowerShell is cross-platform nowadays 🙂

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos Před 6 měsíci +1

      You can even write Powershell scripts that could be mistaken for C# if you wanted to.

  • @billkammermeier
    @billkammermeier Před 3 lety +3

    command prompt has had pipes since before Windows was even invented. this feature has probably existed since MS-DOS 1.0

  • @paul8926
    @paul8926 Před 3 lety

    I like your Onkyo surround speaker set-up in your living room, very cool.

  • @aid0nex
    @aid0nex Před 3 lety

    Very interesting! Thanks a lot for this video!

  • @DestinedByte
    @DestinedByte Před 3 lety +5

    since powershell can run on windows and linux the ./ is b/c of the way files are run in linux

    • @mffmart
      @mffmart Před 3 lety +1

      This makes a lot of sense.

    • @tooru
      @tooru Před 3 lety

      that still doesn't explain why this is the way you do it

    • @mffmart
      @mffmart Před 3 lety +3

      @@tooru some other comments have reported that it was implemented in BASH as a way to avoid conflicts, and also to prevent accidentally executing files instead of commands, or vice versa. That's why it makes sense.
      They ported the concept from BASH into PowerShell

    • @turun_ambartanen
      @turun_ambartanen Před 3 lety +2

      It has nothing to do with the way you do it in Lnux, even though the "limitation" is there as well.
      The real reason is security. Having to type the extra .\\ or ./ is to prevent you from accidentally running malicious files. If you issue a command the computer first checks if there is a file with that name in any directory of the PATH. If it were to check if a program exists in the current directory as well, a malicious person could simply put dri.exe in there and instead of not listing all files because you misstyped the dir command, it would actually run a malicious program.
      except if you mean the forward slash. That is simply because backslash is plain stupid.

  • @bitehunter122
    @bitehunter122 Před 3 lety +4

    MS-DOS - The real performer
    PowerShell - MS-DOS in drag
    Cmdlets - drag accessories

  • @chromerims
    @chromerims Před 10 měsíci

    Get-Alias in Powershell is one I'll keep in mind. Thank you 👍

  • @dlinkster
    @dlinkster Před 5 měsíci +1

    PowerShell gets a lot of its functionality from the .NET Framework and .NET Core, depending on which version is running. You can use AppLocker to lock out people from directly calling .NET functions, but this often breaks many scripts-even those that ship with Windows. Good work, Thio! I am impressed with this video as you went over the fundamentals of PowerShsll quite well.

  • @bazzyi9294
    @bazzyi9294 Před 3 lety +3

    Ngl he kinda scared me when he popped out from behind the couch

  • @NoOne-sy5fg
    @NoOne-sy5fg Před 2 lety +3

    meanwhile me using zsh:

  • @themistoclesnelson2163

    Good explanation TJ!

  • @danielfernandes1010
    @danielfernandes1010 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you. I always saw powershell only as a program for some advanced people who worked with hundreds of computers in a corporate setup. After watching this I think it has some pretty cool uses for us as well.

    • @tazguy371
      @tazguy371 Před rokem

      PowerShell definitely shines when you have multiple machines that you need to configure the same way. If you need to keep the configuration the same without allowing changes to the installed Windows features, PowerShell can do that as well.

  • @smft9147
    @smft9147 Před 3 lety +21

    Command prompt > powershell

  • @jase_allen
    @jase_allen Před 3 lety +4

    Hey, don't knock GoTo! Back in the days before Win95, I wrote a fairly complex (for the day) batch file that loaded on boot to more easily play DOS games so we didn't have to waste memory loading Windows and then the game. I made good use of If, error codes, and GoTo to make that work with all the games we had. Even today, GoTo is very handy to have in VBScript heavy Access Databases. Can't write 3,000 lines of script without throwing in a few GoTos.

  • @black_platypus
    @black_platypus Před 6 měsíci +2

    Also, to make things more confusing, there is _Windows PowerShell,_ which is no longer updated since version 5.1, and there is what used to be called _PowerShell Core,_ nowadays simply _PowerShell,_ which has received multiple important updates for bug-/security fixes and new/extended features, and is in active development.
    So you might come across a PS script and wonder "Why isn't this working for me?" -- you might have to install the new, shiny PowerShell instead of the old Windows PowerShell.

  • @josephglover4546
    @josephglover4546 Před rokem

    Thanks. The video was inspiring!

  • @unknownaccount4783
    @unknownaccount4783 Před 3 lety +5

    But powershell requires .NET framework => slow startup
    Microsoft removing CMD soon? Gonna switch fully to yori

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel Před 3 lety

      is this true? powershell uses . net? anyway I use cmd,

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 Před 3 lety +1

    You CAN write scripts for the traditional "Command Prompt" - Batch files are a thing. "pipes" are also a thing in Command Prompt.

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 Před 3 lety +1

      Batch files don't actually run natively on CMD - they run though the NTVDM (New Technology Virtual DOS Machine). But CMD scripts (.cmd) are a thing so your point still stands. Basically .cmd is more modernized and faster (script is loaded into RAM all at once and executed line by line) while .bat is slower although easier to run (script is loaded line by line into RAM then executed as they are loaded). Makes sense of you think about machines back then compared to today.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 3 lety

      @@sethadkins546 Right! to the end user (writer of said batch files/cmd scripts..) it's tomAYtoe VS tomAHtoe, LOL. My only actual point is that "scripts" are still a thing at "Ye Olde Command Prompt". 😛

  • @kellingc
    @kellingc Před 3 lety +1

    The '=' is a part of the regular expression set, thus -eq replaces it as a mathmatical symbol.
    The .\ means look in the current directory. It is a security feature, as the current directory is not in the path environment variable. I might use it as part of lets say a tar command on ljnux to mean extract to the current directory.

  • @muzvid
    @muzvid Před 11 měsíci

    My most frequent use of the command prompt is to generate a text file of the contents of a folder by redirecting the output of the dir command. If I want to start doing that in PowerShell, I'm going to have to do some research, because the switches I'm used to using don't seem to be supported by the alias.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 Před 2 lety +1

    It was pretty informative!
    The only reason I still prefer the cmd/batch language instead of powershell (excluding backwards compatibility), is loading times (and maybe resource consumtion). If you are using VMs or for whatever reason your PC is lagging, powershell takes ages to load up, while simple cmd starts in seconds.
    Thanks for the video!

    • @NoOne-sy5fg
      @NoOne-sy5fg Před 2 lety

      just switch to a Unix shell and see how much it helps ;)

    • @vladislavkaras491
      @vladislavkaras491 Před 2 lety

      @@NoOne-sy5fg well, I switch to Linux time to time instead :D

  • @user-jt9vb5nm2b
    @user-jt9vb5nm2b Před 10 měsíci

    I remember pipes from DOS--combining text files, piping dir to a text file to get a list of files in your directory. Fun times!

  • @dinner4chiahao
    @dinner4chiahao Před 3 lety

    Really helpful video! Thanks

  • @gazeros69
    @gazeros69 Před 2 lety

    Exactly the video I needed!