How much completion can you get in Hollow Knight, without any Geo?
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2023
- 0 Geo Max% is the final evolution of one of Hollow Knight's toughest challenges: Beating the game without picking up a single piece of the game's currency. Today, we go through how one speedrunner managed this crazy feat, and break down the run, with all it's scary geo segments, hard bossfights and dark rooms. Hope you enjoy!
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The skin Monstah used is called KUNEHO by Sad-ist! - Hry
Glad to see our mom is credited in this video, she must’ve really worked hard
We wouldn't be here without her.
pov: the dad
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nigga she just got raw dogged
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monstahler is such an insane runner, like seriously, anytime i hear about any speedrun category this guy shows up and just casually destroys the competition.
so now it's time for the human version of "zero geo with gathering swarm"
This would be exceedingly painful, bordering on impossible, unfortunately. I had to rng manip in some cases to get viable geo drop/launch patterns, as sometimes the random spread of geo and random timing of the gathering 'flies' creates cases where there is no viable timeline to dodge the geo, even when you have the luxury of exploring multiple timelines. This was especially true early game prior to having dash. In those cases I had to go back and change a nail input to manipulate rng and roll a new set of timelines that were feasible. I could see human players pulling it off for a single room, though, with enough attempts. Aspid arena might be a fun one to try.
Jarlyk really be taking this comment seriously, but I definitely appreciate reading the answer.
Does this exempt the geo you have to collect to buy Gathering Swarm in the first place?
@@Irisverse For the TAS, the game code was modified to just give and force equip gathering swarm from the beginning of the game. For a human version, you'd probably want to do the same, though I wouldn't recommend it. (:
@@jarlyk what if you route it in such a way geo drops are minimized though
you mentioned aspid arena geo dodge might be humanly doable, so you could start off the run by doing that and getting the hardest trick out of the way. after that you lure each false knight arena enemy right next to the screen transition, kill them and immediately leave so the geo goes away. grab fireball, kill greenpath baldur and immediately savequit, fireball skip to fungal wastes and grab claw. now you can go back to greenpath to get to hornet while avoiding moss knight. from here the game opens up a ton so ill just go over some problematic spots i can think of:
beast den: we can fight hornet 2 and get shade cloak to get through the devouts without killing them
lever arenas before watcher knights: easily skipable via 1.2.2.1 lever skip
teachers archives: crystal peaks is locked behing soul sanctum, which is locked behing a small arena against a soul twister. luckily we can get tear instead. you dont have soul twister to help you out with the skips but you can get sharp shadow instead. you also need dash master and wings, which should be doable
maybe im missing some other spot, but it doesnt seem that far fetched to me besides the initial geo dodge. alternatively if aspid arena is too hard you could do an itemless shade skip to fog canyon and then do the dodges on moss knight. after that the route would be similar besides not having fireball yet
That skin mod they were using it so cool! Its cute in the early game, but all of the abyssal moves are nightmarish I love them
iirc its called Kuneho, its one of my favorite HK skins too and ive been using it a bit
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Ye, that's a character from an animation called "Kuneho" by SAD-ist (the skin is also created by her).
Such a crazy run. This community just keeps on going with cool ideas.
This is not a new idea bruh
@@doodleBurgers I don't believe I said it was a new idea. I implied that it was a cool idea by saying that "This community just keeps on going with cool ideas." :^)
@@krule274 don't semantic me 🤦♂️
@@doodleBurgers I'm not in the habit of pulling the semantics card, but if you're going to make a statement blatantly implying that I'm incorrect about something that I never said in the first place, then yeah, I'll happily pull the semantics cards, bud.
@@doodleBurgershe did not say a new idea idiot😂
2:01 Funny how there is a skip to get Shade Soul without the elegant key, but it requires Dash Slash
removed in current patch
I think I did the math for a maximum geo run once, and to farm 9,999,999 geo, the most the game lets you have. in the fastest way I could think of being the colosseum, would take like 3 months of straight grinding
Skurry did a speedrun of a challenge run for killing all possible NPC's. This requires you to get 36,000 geo for all unbreakable charms.
The meta for collecting geo was not the Colosseum, but fighting the small enemies in Kingdom's Edge.
I think Skurry got 36,000 geo in around 1:30 hour.
With this rate, it will take around 416 hours or 17.3 days to get 10M geo.
@@or3213 Skurry farmed Geo with the Colosseum in the Genocide% run, they fought the small hoppers in the All Unbreakable charms speedrun. Colo 2 is actually meta, but only if you have a lot of upgrades. That would've taken some time in Skurry's All Unbreakable charms run, but the cost is negligible if you're gonna grind geo for 400 hours, and in the Genocide run Skurry already had a ton of upgrades from Nailsmith.
I think Skurry also mentioned at some point that tram pass fluke carver spawns could theoretically outspeed hoppers, but would be a lot mechnically harder to pull off.
@@jackwuchannel Thanks for clarifying.
I once had Millibelle the Thief reappear at the hot spring, giving geo once again.
If it's an intended mechanic or unfixed bug, it may be a viable farm option.
@@musaran2 If you give Millibelle 2550+ Geo she will then leave and go to the Pleasure House where you can knock her around to get x1.5 of the Geo she had in her bank when she leaves, the most you can get from this is 6843 Geo and you can only do it once per Save.
I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that HK speedruners have thought of, nevermind completed, these types of runs due to the lack of Silksong
let's be real the reason this wouldn't have happened if Silksong had released already is NOT that the community is desperate. it's just that Silksong would be too distracting for these moments of genius to appear
As big fan of SADist, i appreciate everyone who use kuneho skin.
It's beautiful
Amazing video btw, as always
'The zero geo run has always stuck out to me'
Looks at blue's channel
You don't say...
7 minutes in and it just hit me that a no geo run is the same principle as a no coins run of any Mario game. I've watched a lot of videos on that subject and I find it super interesting. This adds another layer to my appreciation of no geo recaps, because the layouts of the videos are so different. In those videos, they go level by level, but you can't do that in HK, lol.
Shiny, yet deadly geo!
Man, Monstah really is cracked at the video game. Super excited to see if 0 rosaries will be possible and what scuffed challenges it will present in Silksong. Very nice video Blue, keep up the fantastic work!
P.S. its ok (and normal) to ask for subs don't worry :)
I somehow read the title as max geo% and i thaught that the goal was to max out the geo counter then beat the game as fast as possible
Does it have a known limit (probably some integer threshold)? That would be an insane run!
Max Geo is 9,999,999. Most efficient way to farm Geo fully endgame is Colo 2
@@EnderKL ah I see
This is literally insane, Blue. So impressed lmao
LMFAOOOOO
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When I clicked on this video, I thought it was using a mod that somehow made you unable to pick up Geo...Consciously having to *avoid* picking up any is more insane than I imagined
i cant wait until someone makes a 0 geo max% gathering swarm tas
If it didn't require latest patch, I'd be tempted. Though max% 1221 is actually probably most of the same geo challenges, just removes the low equipment pantheons.
@@jarlyk it requires latest patch? What for?
@@toastprobably9774 Patch 1221 doesn't have any of the Godhome content, so it has a maximum completion of 106% (vs 112% on versions with Godhome)
@@jarlyk well then, if you wanted to, you could do an 80% TAS on 1221 instead of an 83% TAS on current patch
@@jarlyk does godhome even provide any unique 0 geo challenges compared to max?
monstah is a legend, this is the hardest feat ive seen yet in this game beside absorad, also sadist skin rules
This is way harder than AbsRad
@@overthegardenwall7143 harder than absorad 3?
@@testhekid do you mean anyrad??
@@poisonedmaple6874 im talkimg about absolute radiance, the hardest modded boss in hollowknight
@@testhekid absolute radiance is
base game?????
monstah is such a great player, and ending it with the stinky fluke was insane lmao, great viedo!
now monstah should do it with gathering swarm
you know it's a good run when you hear white palace is easy
at 14:06 you mention having to get "Tram Pass" in the dark.
The route to Tram pass has only one small dark room, the one with the lever to open the gate to the tram.
Galien's room isn't dark either, though you have to pass through the dark to get to his room.
This is literally insane, Blue. So impressed lmao. This is literally insane, Blue. So impressed lmao.
I'll never forget my first time seeing the mossy boy... I was with dark flukenest and bro just blew up with a single spell
I was like "Hmm the geo challange was fun let me look for another cool hollow knight challange. " And then i see this video was posted 3 days ago. Good timing !
Great video! I love keeping up with these ridiculous challenges. I wonder if it would be worth adding a visual indicator for how much % he has? I just think it would be neat and keep us updated
Of course it's monstah...
Dude single handedly crushed my dreams of speedrunning Hollow Knight, when I saw just how insane the stuff he pulls off can be. ^^;
You don't need to be better than anyone. If you really want to speedrun, just do it!
There are hundreds of Hollow Knight speedrunners, some are better, some are worse, but they all speedrun and improve themselves. Whether it's because they want to compete with other runners, or because they want to achieve a specific goal, or simply because they have fun with it!
at 6:44 you were like "4 vessel fragments are locked behind Geo. Two of Sly's, the fountain one, King's station arena, and the one behind the lift from Storeroom to Xroads"
The one in KS arena isn't locked behind geo at all. (The other 4 are, though).
I think the logic is that the room is too small to dodge every geo dropped by the enemies and would prob require wings to even have a chance and it would be too big of a runkiller if not tas only.
112% minimum geo sounds funny since you would have to get exactly the correct amount or lose the run but that shouldn’t be done for obvious reasons
Godhome ending minimum geo
i'm going to watch this tmr morning, but i just know this is gonna be PAIN
Now i wonder how much spicier the run would be if selling relics and rancid eggs (would ofc require steel soul) was allowed to get geo (cause technically it's still not picking up any geo) and thus more completion
Your narration is elite
DUDE I JUST WATCHED LIKE 5 OF UR VIDEOS IN ONE SIT AND I THOUGHT YOU HAD LIKE A MILLION SUBS AND WHEN U SAID THE 100K GOAL I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE AND THEN I CHECKED WHAG THE HELL anyways love ur videos i love hollow knight and i also love ur voice keep it up!!!!
Omigod, I didn't expect to see Sad-ist's Kuneho skin on here!
In my first hollow knight run, I got stuck on deepnest without the lantern (I did not kill mantis lords), so I had to pass it without seeing nothing. It was super hard and scary, but I managed to do it. I understand you guy from the run...
What does Lantern have to do with Mantis Lords
@@EnderKL it a whole lot easier to get out of deepest with the mantis lord door open
can't wait for 0 geo max% hitless
“Deepnest is SO DIFFICULT, there’s SO MUCH to do, danger at EVERY CORNER, one wrong move could KILL THE RUN… So anyway he eventually gets out of deepnest because he’s an absolute gamer”
Show us?😢
I figured there wasn’t much to show since it’s all dark and really hard to see haha
@@BlueSR yeah for the visual aspect i can see why, i was just thinking there would be some close calls where it would even be interesting to hear an explanation of what’s happening or a lil clip of monstah’s reaction or smth. My lazy ass can go watch the vod lol
glad to see people finally doing 0 geo max%
This is amazing, but I imagine the blindfolded challenge must be harder. But what do I know, I've not done either
This run is mind blowing either way
Monstah really is a monster
Sadist's kuneho skin is so cute 😭😭
The world needs a gathering swarm edition
great vid
Nice vid
that was awesome
Why'd you have to remind me I still haven't done all bindings p3? I don't wanna hear the Collector laugh ever again.
Yayyy another blue_sr_ video
Petition to call this run 0 geo high%
now jarlyk needs to do a tas of this with gathering swarm
Idea for a new speedrun:
Death%
Basically, you have to die as quickly as possible on Steel Soul. The more quickly you die, the better.
the run would be 15 seconds
that's probably been done as fast as possible
0:00 this is a good video the first word u said we’re AMONG US
now jarlyk needs to do this with gathering swarm
If you use Joni’s blessing plus give blood I’m pretty sure that gives enough for the blue heart door
monsta is such a hk menace dude hes been at wr stealing for years
This dude monsta is the king of having no money.
I love the kuneho skin
Drtmth and stgnst are my favorite hollow knight locations
Skurry after doing low% twice: "amateurs"
Just watched on premiere, and I have one thing to say
*sans undertale*
Aww heck yeah kuneho skin
Now it’s time for 0 Geo Max% with gathering swarm.
Max% but Hallownest is a minefield
what no silksong does to a mf. insane run by monstah though!
11:17 in my normal play trough, I didn't pick up any geo because I died
Me too 😂😂😂 -550 geo i Guess
Kind of off topic question but what ever happened to that glass shatter effect when you got hit? For me at least when I get hit now it’s more of a voidy splash effect.
It's been removed from the game at a certain point.
However, most Hollow Knight speedruns use an earlier version of the game, so you will see this crack in a lot of speedruns, even if it's not in the current patch.
... Blue, you mean that ISN'T your hand as your avatar?!
no thats my face clearly
What waiting for silk song does to a mofo
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Happy brain chemical!!!!!
(Hmmm, this makes me a drug a guess.......😊)
Everybody waiting for a review on 112%APB sub 3 hours
Blue: imagine getting max% without money
oh monstah already did thath
@@BlueSR what? Where? I mean like a review with the strategies and all
@@still_br1519is in YT, over a month ago at this point, monstah is such a legendary HK player
15:05 Isn't Dream Warriors' health dependent on Nail Upgrades? Meaning that having the starting Nail makes them easier due to all Spells, especially DD and AS, dealing flat damage? I remember something about that in relation to Gorb fight...
Dream Warriors yes, as in like Gorb and Xero. Not the Dream Refights
Sanity’s is lost in everyone the only thing that keeps us together is watching people suffer
6:37 How is vessel fragment in arena above king's station blocked by geo? Not that it changes anything in the big picture though.
Now let's see it steel soul :)
I hope you're having a wonderful day too
Low% no geo true ending when
that's so cursed
This is CRAZY hard. I don’t know how you get past Queens gardens
6:29 advanced math: 2+1+1+1=4
So... why does he need a flower when collecting lifeblood? I didn't quite catch the reason for that route.
No, he's comparing it to the flower quest because, just like in flower quest, he would have to start over if he got hit once anywhere along the path because he wouldn't have enough lifeblood anymore
@@lunkel8108 ah, that makes sense, thanks!
I was so confused too lol
18:38 you also need p2 to enter p4
would using the nail binding with the default nail upgrade your nail?
Sounds like its time for
"Hollow Knight TAS - 0 geo with gathering swarm, fragile greed, and a permanent 20 geo chasing through every room".
Pls run this Blue
only 20 more thousand till the fingy reveal hehehehehe
Now let’s see what the minimum geo for 112% is
it's just the price of lantern + shop charms + elegant key/dashslash + shop masks/vessels and fountain + colo + nail upgrades. i think?
Dash Slash - 800 (has own % as well as unlocking Nailmasters Glory)
Colosseum - 100 + 450 + 800 (3% + Oblobbles for P2) (1350)
Sly:
-Lantern - 1800 (required for No Eyes/ P4)
-Gathering Swarm - 300
-Stalwart Shell - 200
-Heavy Blow - 350
-Elegant Key - 800 (required for Shade Soul)
-4 Mask Shards - 150 + 500 + 850 + 1500 (3000)
-2 Vessel Fragments - 550 + 900 (1450)
-Sprintmaster - 400
Salubra:
-Lifeblood Heart - 250
-Longnail - 300
-Steady Body - 120
-Shaman Stone - 220
-Quick Focus - 800
Leg Eater (use Def Crest for lower prices):
-Fragile Heart - 280
-Fragile Greed - 200
-Fragile Strength - 480
Iselda:
-Wayward Compass - 220
Nail Upgrades - 250 + 800 + 2000 + 4000 (7050)
Vessel Fragments:
-After the City lift to Crossroads - 150 (elevator toll)
-Basin fountain - 3000
If I can count and type properly that's a total of 22170 Geo absolutely required for 112%
Notes:
you never need to buy the Simple Key from Sly for 112%, you only need 2 keys and there are 3 free ones to obtain. Of course, other items from merhants like maps and charm notches dont give percent so those don't need to be bought
The only pale ore behind a paywall is from Colo 2 which is already accounted for, so no other extra costs are incurred from nail upgrades
iirc, Stag Nest can be reached from Cliffs without unlocking every stag station (which would cost extra geo) to obtain the vessel fragment there
of course, there might be things i'm forgetting about getting to certain areas that might actually need geo, but i don't think there's anywhere of interest that hasn't been covered
monstah is such a ggggggamer
Team Cherry should make a new charm that makes all geo fly away from you but it costs geo to buy so u cant use it on 0 geo run >:)
Instead of normal sealed vessel song you should of done Kazoo Hero's sealed vessel cover
Have you heard of the Unity changes?
Bro is fucking cracked
I desperately want to know where he got the blue HK themed stream border, I’ve looked and can’t find it 😭
im wondering if he is going to make a video on his max% from twich
Zero geo has percent but you more in the geo needed to unlock everything when you boot up meaning you do everything possible but can't die or collect any Additional geo. Call it pocket change percent.
Hey Blue, can I give you a high five?
These people need silksong badly
2:07 do you actually need lantern to access the arena? Or is it because you can't see
you probably need it for the ghost to appear, cause in crystal peaks toll entrance you can only use it with lantern
20:26, just leave and re enter
Ultimate Vow of Poverty %
try this but with gathering swarm
Next stop 0 geo steel soul