How to Have No Shame, Guilt, or Hate
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Dude, I really love your videos!
"That's on my contract with the Zen Mafia" ahahah priceless.
Yes, no shame, guilt, or hatred. Ah, but how do you get there. You can't order yourself to lose those and you can't think your way out of them. The path out of them is the work of a lifetime and takes a tremendous amount of dedication and commitment and you will never lose them completely. As Joko Beck once put it, you can get to the point where they don't drag you around like a great Dane, but become more like a yapping little dog. My 2 cents.
Agreed. I’ve always said if I could get them at least 50% under control I would consider that a great success.
Yeah it's odd. There is the pointing to No doer being there but then comes the suggestion of "removing guilt, shame" etc. This is where I find many of these teachings confusing and to some degree dishonest. If there is no doer (which IMO likely is the case) there is no way to remove or cling to guilt, shame and hate. Letting go or removing or clinging on to either happens or it does not. Like a ripe fruit falling from a tree or not...there is no one that can speed it up or make it fall otherwise. At the right moment, the fruit will drop.
Unfortunately there is often the type of advice: "There is no doer. Now do this." :)
If you want self esteem do esteem-able actions... I heard this the other week and it really landed for me. Thanks again as always wonder-full content. 🙏🙇♂️
What is the difference between self-esteem and egotism?
I asked Brad once about doing esteem-able actions. And he replied ‘ I just do what is necessary ‘ ...
czcams.com/video/I3SDyQNnjxU/video.html
Yes cause we should always reinforce the "doer". ;)
“Stick to the zen path”… that’s why I’m here! thank you for this deep dive and the book rec.
Bowing from Marquette Michigan,
Liam D
Many thanks Brad
While I appreciate it when you share the teachings of others, and your exegesis of same, I like it when you share your own thoughts, interpretations, and teachings even more.
My dog is barking at Ziggy hahaha
When I played the video back to edit it, Ziggy started barking at the sound of his own voice.
Ziggy may be exhibiting a latent talent for political grandstanding. These days the politicians seem so interdependent as one opposing statement generates another opposing statement from the other side Back and forth so that if one listens to the tone of the opposing voices instead of the semantic content of the words, politicians seem to mirror each other with similar reactions no matter what party. As if they are watching a video of themselves and Barking...,. Actually if Ziggy Ran for office ? 🤔 Actually I would vote for Ziggy! Woo Hoo Ziggy in 22! getting The Cat vote might be a challenge🙄
Cats, squirrels and drone/UFOs--will the crazy visitations never end?!
Yes, Ramesh-ji was a great teacher, his satsangs were delightful, such a kindly gentleman. Perhaps a bit too deistic for my tastes, but that's just me.
Thanks for featuring him again. Solid! 🤙🤓
You said "free will is an illusion, and determinism is also an illusion". I can accept that as a possibility, but in a practical sense I think that free will exists, and determinism exists. :)
They contradict each other, and that used to make me think I needed to pick one over the other, but you actually said something to me that has helped me with many of these kinds of contradictions / paradoxes. It was: "contradictions only exist in the human mind". That's great!
So it's pretty obvious to me that people have free will, and also pretty obvious to me that the world is governed by the laws of physics (including laws of physics that we don't know yet). Those two obvious things contradict each other, but that's ok, reality will survive. The contradiction only exists in my mind, so I don't have to choose one over the other. :)
"reality will survive"
Damn...good line!
Yeah. It's kind of the same thing. They're illusions when you say it has to be one way or the other. They're different ways of looking at the same thing.
@@HardcoreZen Ah, cool, thanks!
"Just don't hate yourself or others or have shame or guilt; that's it." That's it? Boom, easy! lol. I've gotten better about it, but especially for a while I really fell into just monstrous loops of self-hatred; it still starts to start up once in a while, and I just have to yell "STOP!" in my head, sort of. Doesn't lead anywhere good. (Talking pathological self-hatred, and honestly some of the stuff I would beat myself up about was a little beyond my control in that my brain doesn't function correctly once every blue moon.)
Regarding the beginning, though; I mean, Zen itself is pretty heavily influenced by Taoism. (I enjoy reading some Taoist texts now and then, actually, at least the more philosophical stuff, less so the "here's how to be an immortal" folk stuff.) And it co-exists very much so with e.g. Shinto in Japan, with people going to ancestral shrines and stuff. It doesn't seem like there's a big conflict there.
“Stirred, not shaken”
please make another list including fear
I believe and I feel and I KNOW that every aspect of this vast manifestation is through and through and through spontaneous. That being said, I also feel and know that guilt and shame and remorse arise spontaneously just as everything else does and I "try" mightily to avoid doing anything that might seem to furnish them an occasion to arise. Logic be damned!
I found my thrill on Brad berry hill 😁❤️
Stick to the path (for 50 years or so then you can go exploring). St Augustine warned of the same kind of thing back in the 300s:” If you believe what you like in the Gospel and disbelieve what you don’t like, it’s not the Gospel that you believe but yourself”.
Make sure your foundation is strong before you go exploring.
Unfortunately , those with “itchy ears” to whom such advice is directed are least likely to take it!
Love your vids, Brad
“Zen Mafia”... Cool name for a band.
Do any of you guys read osho? I enjoyed his book of secrets very much and i think its everything one needs to grow as a human being and understand meditation. Its a multidimensional book, has several techniques and covers many topics.
What does free will have to do with idealism or materialism? The idea is simply incoherent.
I , for one, have free will! I keep in in a bag with some square circles, materialism and a clown car full of Leprechauns.
Either one thing leads to another or it doesn't. If you can make a version of free will out of that let me have some to put in my bag.
If one thing leads to another that is known as "determinism" or colloquially, "causation". If it doesn't that is known as "indeterminism" or "randomness".
If you think you can make "free will" out of that, then you'll be able to explain why a thermostat with a random number generator doesn't have "free will". "Ooh. It's freezing today. But my A/C with 'Totally Free Will'™ has decided to turn the temperature down."
Determinism: drakememe says no thanks
Dependent-origination: drakememe says ah yeah
I understand concerns about "mixing bits" of varying traditions.
But I don't think it's completely about "avoiding the uncomfortable parts" of one tradition.
You've explained that for you that Zen was really the only option to you by circumstance. So in that sense it was easy to avoid the "temptation" of dabbling in other forms of Buddhism.
But for many of us coming to Buddhism later, it really is a concerted effort to "filter out" and ignore other traditions while trying to stay "pure" in just one.
When looking back at the history of Buddhism, I can't help but wonder what valuable insights each tradition has?
As much as I value Zen, in what areas may it be lacking where other traditions have something to offer?
It's hard for me not to be skeptical that Zen is the most "pure" transmission of Buddha's teaching, and would hate to think I'd be ignoring "authentic" insights from him that Zen may have missed.
Sometimes I wonder if Buddhist scholarship still has its work cut out for it to tentatively reconstruct pre-sectarian Buddhism?
Hey Brad, did you read Perfect Brilliant Stillness by David Carse ? My first introduction to Ramesh.
I don't know that one.
@@HardcoreZen Out of print I think, not sure, but available as free ebook, also as an audiobook read by non other than Terence Stamp. It’s a good read if your interested in Balsekar. Carse visited him after what he calls in the book the ‘jungle thing’. It was the first book I read regarding Advaita Vedanta, although the author doesn’t label it as such. Cheers, take care my friend.
@@HardcoreZen Audiobook -
archive.org/details/PerfectBrilliantStillnessAudiobook
If both are wrong, what is right?
I’m still a work in progress. From what I remember, doesn’t the Zen mafia contract say: No benefits implied implicitly nor directly. :)
I’m going to order the book. What pg is what you read on? Ty
It's near the end of the first chapter.
You were talking about sticking to one path, because otherwise one ends up cherry-picking from here and there and avoiding the challenging/uncomfortable stuff.
When I think about the Zen-path I can only think about zazen, since there aren't that many rituals (as far as I've experienced it). So I was wondering where Zen gets uncomfortable. Zazen feels really comfortable to be honest. Can you shine some light on that?
Enjoy comfortable zazen! I just think that it gets uncomfortable for everyone at some point. Then the discomfort passes.
Almost 13 thousand suscribers. We should make an impact to get Brad Warner on Joe Rogan Experience! Anyone else want to see that?!
I do!
Even for a materialist, chaos theory and quantum mechanics disprove determinism. Hence, they provide an opening for free will.
Hi Jon, Is there such a thing as true random number generation?
@@Teller3448 I'm not sure whether your question is relevant to my comment. As I understand it, there are only pseudorandom number generators in software. The best approximation people can do is open a book of numbers to a random page.
@@jonwesick2844 Does the impossibility of true random number generation have anything to do with chaos theory and quantum mechanics?
@@Teller3448 No, I don't think so. The impossibility of a true random number generator is a limit on our technology (computers and algorithms) not on nature itself.
Where i can find Shinji Shobogenzo
PDF ?
I live in north Africa and there is no books about zen here
Pls give me a link or pdf
Or you can sind me books that you don't need
You can find a PDF of Shobogenzo at www.shobogenzo.net
Shobogenzo Zuimonki is available from www.sotozen.com/eng/
I don't know if there is a PDF version of Shinji Shobogenzo. Maybe someone else does?
Sometimes I feel shame or guilt in spite of my ethical actions simply because, in many cases, others look askance at ethical behavior (presumably because it's rare -- I'm not sure), and I'm concerned that I caused discomfort or suspicion without intending to. (I've learned that people are often suspicious of sincere kindness, sadly.) I wish I could have more confidence that what I do is heartfelt, well-intentioned, and good and therefore not let such reactions, when they occur, cause shame or guilt, but I guess I'm concerned that ignoring these feelings will result in an inflated ego or conceit. This is one of the reasons that the ethical dimension of consciousness and the universe and everything matters so much to me, and why I'm looking forward to reading your new book when it's published.
The fact that you are so critical with yourself means you are on the right path. This guilt may come from past experiences, experiences maybe from the relationship with your parents. Try to trust yourself, let go, and think: What am i going to loose if i let go for a day? Am i clinging to the guilt?
@@albosberisha3453 Thank you -- Many of my friends are quick to attribute such negative responses to my various kindnesses to *their* issues, not mine. They'll say variously that I'm on the right path, not to change, that my voice is quiet but makes a difference, etc., but to me there's just something wrong about thinking "Well, I'm doing the right thing, and if other people don't get it it's clearly their problem." Brad is very inspiring when he speaks of morality and ethics, and it helps me to trust myself and not be afraid to act in what I feel is the kindest way, even if other people don't always understand.
Sorry Brad- I'm a beginner student of Buddhism and I'm confused. You quoted Nishijma Roshi as saying " in a material world, there can be no free will, it does not exist and you can kinda figure that out". Huh?Could you give a link or something I can read about that? I'd like to get some insight into the meaning. Thx
I don't think Nishijima Roshi actually said exactly that. If you look at the article from the Guardian that I linked to in the description it gives a pretty solid argument for the non-existence of free will. The author doesn't know it, but the analysis presented in the piece is basically the materialistic point of view. If you'd like the Buddhist point of view on it, look at Shobogenzo, particularly the 2 essays about Hyakujo's Fox. I presented my version of these essays in the book It Came From Beyond Zen. The Buddhist concept of "cause and effect" (karma) has much in common with the Western idea of determinism (lack of free will). The question in those 2 essays is "Is an enlightened person subject to cause and effect?" In other words, "Does an enlightened person have free will?"
Hey really liked this but disagree that we shouldn't learn or take from other paths as we see fit. All paths or schools of thought surely are formed by learning from other schools of thought and creating new analysis from it.
"Glad I had Brad write the books" You get it, right? That step out. Me, combat vet and her, wit even more savage. Hate the selfish. It's okay. Let it go man, they'll kill us all. Better them than you. I bow to you, long distance master.
Cringey memories are killing my zen vibe
Very disappointed as an ex advaitin coming go check out some zen 😊
Hakuin said "True self is no self," As for freewill? Freewill requires a self. No self, no freewill. Kind of like the tree falling in the forest, I think.
"I think"
What happened to 'no self'?
hakuin did not say that, jeez you guys make up stuff, liars all, that's actually christian theology
Hi Andy, how are you? Not familiar with "Master Hakuin's Chant in Praise of Zazen?" Of corse you are, you little mystic scamp. I hope you're doing well.
@@gra6649 well its there for sure, but a complete mistranslation or rather the usual conversion into christian theology
the answer is not inward or outward
fools chase words
what only experience can teach
@@Teller3448 You got me. lol That one is, is certain, What one is, not so much. Nisargadatta
Bought the book. Half way thru and this is not even close to zen. Duality, Source, no free will, etc. boo!
Interesting. I didn't feel that way at all.
@@HardcoreZen okay , “I’ll come back in again.”
Finished this book and read another by him on free will. He says there is no free will and the non-doer is not responsible for his actions nor is anyone responsible for what they do so I shouldn’t get upset at that person or myself. Really? I don’t think that works outside his apartment.
@@ronmcbee4743 It's a tricky question. Who has free will? Who is responsible?
You're very confused about philosophy. Free will is compatible with determinism and doesn't imply idealism or other non materialist positions.
R u a R-hat?
It took me a while to get that. I r not an R-hat.
" i don't like this sort of eclectic thing of drawing from this and drawing from that"
pot calling the kettle black ?
AND
the kettle calling the pot black
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"How to Have No Shame, Guilt, or Hate"
no shame or guilt anyway apparently
He's looking where the cat was, but there cat's not there anymore .
Deep .
It's not the same teaching as the video, but it's related 🪷