Ranking Every European Fighter Jet
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2023
- Engineer Uses Ultimate Aircraft Ranking System to Rank All European Fighter Jets currently in operation in europe.
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The Gripen is one of the most advanced systems in the world, often without comparison. Its electronic warfare suite is state-of-the-art and ahead of most other platforms. Add to that, if it requires upgrades in the future, the platform is modular with separated architecture so you can switch out the entire suite by simply removing the engine and pulling out the entire electronics module. You can basically have a completely new version of this fighter in just a few hours. I'd say it's a lot more innovative than you think.
Plus, it can use improvised air fields and can be maintained out of a truck.
And same can be said about the Rafale and the Typhoon.
Any 5th gen jet is stealth untill a radar can detect it or a captor can track back the source of a lock. While EU fighters relly on jamming ennemy radars to not be dtected.
But those are much more expensive than the Gripen, which is both very good & very cheap. Rafale & Typhoon aren't worth the price considering even F35 is already cheaper, has stealth & most advanced electronics & sensors etc. Furthermore many allied countries buy the F35 so it wlil be the most tested, improved & used jet in the world, which is what keeps it price low like that.
And Stealth is really effective (against current radars/ad), it's not about being invisible but about not being seen before you see the enemy, and they won't get a lock on it.
Relying on jamming is not so secure, for example the Patriot system, even tho it's superior to anything russia has like s400, has an easy way to counter that. If there is a jammer the sam missile will just home in on that jammer instead lol, so either way they're shot down. We've seen that now in Ukraine how effective it is, even downing rus planes over russian airspace, in most cases the crew doesn't even survive. So while Typhoon & Rafale are very capable, they can't match the F35, whlie the price is higher. The "supercruise" is also an asset that's not rly useful imo.
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@@BzhToine A JAS 39 Gripen C/D in a exercise against Eurofighter was able to jam detection and got so close to the Eurofighter that they were wing to wing.
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Regarding the price of Rafale and Typhoon compared to F35 is not to be taken only on buying price. You have also to look at the whole lifetime of the plane and the flight hour is much more expensive for the F-35 and it's maintenance far more complex and expensive. The avaiability too, EU fighters can perform at least 2 times more missions per day than the F-35 that also have a much more lower payload.
And regarding jamming, a missile can go to the source of the jamming but if the jamming prevent the lock it will not go anywhere.
With the Gripen you forgot that it's designed to be able to land on improvised airfields like long, straight roads and it can be maintained by a small crew out of a truck. So it's still operational even if the enemy has bombed all the airports. This is a quality that literally no other western fighte jet has.
Most versatile Aircraft and they have an excellent data link which acts as a force multiplier with ability to respond quickly to changing mission requirements!
the rafale is able to land on highways too, field proven.
To rank the SAAB Gripen 4th is a testament to ignorance. It shows a lack of understanding the technology, the philosophy and culture of this system and just go for basic information.
While Gripen lack passive stealth, the active stealth is probobly second to none, as far as we know.
But Gripen is missing a other gen 5 feature. Internal weapons bay.
There is also one more gen 5 feature that have been unpublished. It is assumed it exist, but not publiced. Super cruise.
Then there are the other, and i would argue, possibly most important gen 5 features as networking where i would argue that European planes is even a head of US counter parts.
Its also worth saying that UK-Sweden is hard at work on the first gen 6 fighter, the tempest. Of cause, US is also working on it with the Ngad and the F/A-XX.
@@matsv201how can you be ahead of an obviously much more dominant country as far as aerospace goes (the U.S.) when speaking about aircraft networking with only a handful of operational aircraft for equipping anf networking to speak of while the u.s. has dozens from next gen bombers, heavy aircraft, drones and fighters to be equipped and to network with. What would sweden network the gripen with? Other gripen? Yeah..... thats not what they mean when they speak of open architecture and networking of aircraft. Just so we are clear.
@@aaronhouser2058 Network with the navy ground troops, the sam sites, even with munition.
Sweden have networked system since the Draken days (well not the very first one)
@@matsv201 Then it should be called 4,5 generation (like Rafale and Typhoon) but this video is pretty poor too.
(And Mirage and F-16 are more comparable to Viggen).
@@matsv201 Sweden and Saab has left the Tempest program a long time ago
I'm demand justice for Gripen.
Speaking about Gripen, Analyst have said that the gripen would be the perfect plane for the Ukraine war. GRipen simply has a different use case. I.e using highways as airstrips, extremely short take off and landing distance. Yes it doesn't have huge range, but it was never designed for it. it was basically design for take off deliver munitions and come back and land on a different field making almost impossible to gain air superiority by bombing airfields. Further more it has a very good situational awareness system which allows for only one plane to pop up and immediately all aircrafts would see the same things allowing them to deliver munitions.
So Gripen is a pure bread defense aircraft.
It is also much easier to maintain. It requires less skilled and fewer personnel to maintain and rearm.
Also, it has a very powerful EW system, which the Russian war in Ukraine shows is very useful!
So it should be graded higher on versatility, cost and efficiency.
Stealth wasn't a priority because new radar systems would eventually be made to 'see' stealth airplanes. Checking out US E-7 Wedgetail and E-2D Hawkeye are good indications of that becoming true.
I'd love to see both working together relying on each others strenghts.
Gripen can fire the longest meteor range and also control it more further after firing than any other plane can
@jeanpauljones60 Never heard of that detail, I would assume it was ordinary jet fuel, but with high performance engines it wouldn't been a surprise. As for the runways/highways, I guess they either send a crew a head of time to clean or they simply just land.
Rafale has performed more missions than the Eurofighter, and has proven itself more than capable of doing what it was DESIGNED to do... It also has more operators than the Eurofighter, and while the Eurofighter might seem more capable on paper while being similar to the Rafale in price, foreign air forces tend to always favor Rafale more than the Eurofighter... This is because of the Rafale's capability to perform any mission, any day, very excellently... There's a reason why they call Rafale "the first and only omnirole fighter jet"... Meanwhile, the Typhoon is made primarily for air superiority, but later on integrated with limited ground attack capabilities...
Also, the Gripen should have a higher grade for innovation... Its pretty innovative for its prize... The new Gripen E/F variant (now in operation with Sweden as of this video's publication) is equipped with an IRST and AESA radar, and has an advanced electronic suite... Its radar is actually better than the Rafale's, with 1000 t/r modules as compared to Rafale's 800... Also, the Rafale radar is GaA based while Gripen's is GaN, which is more advanced... The Gripen's radar also has a repositioner, something that Rafale lacks, and it has a 2-way data link capability, again, something that Rafale lacks... Unfortunately, the Gripen E/F is no longer the "budget fighter" that the Gripen once was, with a price tag of around $85million, its now more expensive than both the F16V, and the 2-engined F18E...
But even the budget-friendly Gripen C/D ($40-45million) is pretty innovativr... It too has an advanced radar... Yes, its not an active phased array radar yet, its radar is still pulse doppler, but unlike other pulse doppler radars with mechanically-scanned antennas, the Gripen C/D's pulse-doppler radar has an AESA antenna, making it more efficient and effective... So again, its pretty innovative for its price...
In addition, the Gripen (all variants) is also made of composite materials, and has a reduced radar visibility design (just like the Typhoon), making it both more stealthy and also very lightweight (in fact one of the lightest fighters in the world)... It can also supercruise at Mach 1.2 while being only single-engined... Its also very cheap and very easy to maintain, and in fact only requiring 1 skilled engineer and 2 other unskilled workers to change its engine, and onlt required a short strip of straight highway to operate, making it able to operate even without runways... What other fighter can do that, aside from the Gripen (and the now-outdated MiG-29)?
The rafale has more export sales because Germany keeps cockblocking Typhoon sales
are you French?
@@spidos1000 nope... I'm from a southeast asian country
Do not get too emotional, the Rafale and the Typhoon are pretty similar in what they can do. Between this two aircraft’s it’s up to who is the better pilot. The Rafale had a better radar but the Typhoon gets a new one so they will be pretty even. They both use the meteor missle so they are equal here as well.
I never flew a Gripen so I can not say anything about that aircraft, but it looks capable too
The Eurofighter is more flexible than the Rafale, the Eurofighter can be configured into 3 types of planes including ground bomber and electrionics warfare
The UK has 1 Gripen, on wet lease to the Empire Test pilots school. So not used as a combat aircraft.
Didn't know that
I didn't even know that but i'm glad you pointed it out
@@AviationAustinthe analysis is completely rubbish... the Rafale F4 is the best European plane by far...
I am in the Navy and even speaking with our pilots who have done several NATO exercises with European planes say that the new Rafale F4 is an incredible plane, and that the typhoon is over... besides there is just a watch the latest NATO combat exercises to see this...
even for the last combat exercise organized for Holland, the Rafale F4 finished victorious, slightly ahead of our F35...
the Dutch finally bought our F35 to the new standard.
The Rafale F4 is by far the best European combat aircraft...
I think you might be underestimating the capabilities of the three European delta-canard fighters. The Meteor missile all three of them can carry makes them more than capable of dealing with anything Russia can throw at them in a BVR scenario, and they can all carry 7 or more of those.
In a 2008 exercise, a Rafale was able to score an F-22 kill in a guns only dogfight, which is still quite impressive.
In a 2006 exercise, 3 Swedish Gripen A's went up against 5 Norwegian F-16's and after 3 rounds the results were 5-0, 5-0 and 5-1 for the Gripens. In another exercise a single Gripen was able to shoot down 2 out of 3 F-15's it had a task of intercepting.
These 3 have significantly lower drag than their contemporaries and quite impressive agility since they were all pretty much designed to counter Flankers and Fulcrums.
1. Rafale never managed to score a kill. In the video that you are presumably referring to, it got a missile lock, not a gun lock. It is also utterly irrelevant of course, because that is not how a fight vs a 5th gen would go.
2. The 2006 exercise never happened, it is a fabrication perpetuated by a random poster ("Stefan Englund") on Quora. OFC you just swallowed it hook, line and sinker because you can't exercise source criticism.
1:25 That's a Rafale, not a Mirage 2000
he also shows an image of the mirage instead of a rafale lol
The main operators of the Rafale are not just France and Greece. As compared with the 24 units of Greece (H.A.F.) ( 12 upgraded and used and 12 brand new ), United Arab Emirates have signed an order of 80 aircraft of the upcomming version Rafale-F4, Egypt owns 24 Rafale F3R and has placed an order of 24 additional units and India operates 36 Rafale F3R and recently has chosen the Rafale M to equip its aircraft carriers ( I do not remember the number of units ). Quatar has acquired 24 of them along with 24 Eurofighter-Typhoon and 36 F-15EQ, Croatia is also an operator of the Rafale F3R ( 12 second hand and upgraded units just like the 12 Greek ones ) Indonesia has also placed an order to Dassault ( I do not remember the number of units ). The Rafale was not supposed to conduct air-to-ground operations, whilst the twin-seated Mirage-2000D fulfills this purpose. The Rafale is a nimble high thrust-to-weight ratio aircraft with low wing-load and canards and therefore it boasts about a superb manoeuvreability ( it managed to shoot down an F-22 during an excersise - guns only - that took place in U.A.E. in the year 2008 ) and by the way the French endowed it with additional air-to-ground capabilities as well as superb BVR engagement capabilities that come along with the METEOR missile.
I didn't list every operator for many aircraft just for time same but thanks for listing them here!
@@AviationAustinyou are also incorrect about Europe lagging behind in aircraft technology especially if we talk about GCAP and FCAS 6th gen fighter programs. Then also with the eurofighter and rafael is going to be upgraded with some 6th gen capabilities. Manned unmanned teaming being on of many capabilities.
I'll believe it when I see it.
India ordered 26 Rafale M for its Navy.
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1:30 into the video i feel like you havent done any research ??? mirage 2000 was a revolution compared to the mirage III and was on point at his time but what is showing that you dont even know what you are talking about is putting a rafale pic on the " "stat card" " that you created
yeah, and then later he used a picture of a Mirage on the Rafale stat card
Mirage 2000 is hell of innovation compared to mirage 3, electric flight control, RDY/2 radar, mission computer etc... it's a big step up.
A "big step up" doesn't make it innovative. It makes it modernized
@@AviationAustin Fly by wire alone is already a revolution, mirage 2000 was one highly innovative aircraft of his time.
@RogerPierre57 the most sophisticated fighter in the world 😭 oh buddy.
@RogerPierre57 "and are still up there with anything around today" F16V yes probably but Mirage 2000's latest upgrade '-9' (late 90') is definitely not on par with the latest avionics or weaponry that you can find into the Gripen for instance.
"Rafale, which is the most sophisticated advanced fighter jet in the world" Indeed Dassault philosophy is to propose high end integrated tech with a certain level of rusticity, a compromise with the idea that it has to be able to make war not showcasing around.
I wouldn't say it is the most sophisticated, but for sure it is highly sophisticated, and again, Dassault's jets are designed to fight, not to shine on podiums.
"it is the "ONLY" omnirole jet in the world and second to none" Well it used to be the only omnirole, and had introduced the concept, but not today, Gripen can claim it as well.
So yes Rafale is one awesome piece of tech, and probably the most prolific non-US fighter of today, but you need to temper your enthusiasm 😁
@@RogerPierre57 Well, Mirage 2000's avionics is not really updated since the late 90's (execpt the 2000-D), still use the old RDY (-5) and RDY2 (-9), and early Rafale F1's mission computer, you can't decently compare with 2020's avionics, the gap is huge.
2000-5 & -9 are still potent and lethal if well operated, but the Gripen E is certainly ahead, 2000-9 and D are probably more efficient as bombers but in bvr the Gripen is untouchable, like said by French pilots during evaluations, the Rafale (F3R) killed the -5 (radar on or osf) way before the 2000 is able to detect.
your argument of authority is not receivable here.
First get the image for the mirage and the rafale right 😂
Great to see you back, Austin!
Happy to be back. It been so crazy busy!
Very inaccurate facts. The Mirage-2000 does not belong to the 4+ generation fighters. The production of the aircraft stopped in the year 2009. Recently the air-defence variant Mirage-2000C has been retired from the inventory of Armee de l' Air ( about 130 units ) and only about 80 twin-seated Mirage-2000D are left operational for mainly ground-attack purposes. Of course the production of the aircraft in cause has never reached the number of 600 units as mentioned in the video ( unless you confuse the Mirage-2000 with the earlier model Mirage F1 ).
Are you saying it should be a 4th gen fighter? Not a 4+?
@@AviationAustin It has been introduced in Summer 1984 ( as an early production variant ) as a 3rd generation aircraft. The serial production engine M-53P-2 was available in 1986 and the serial production radar ( RDI ) was available in the year 1987 . This final version was designated as Mirage-2000C and initially was armed with the Super Matra 530F missiles for BVR engagement until the introduction of the Super Matra 530D with longer range and snap-down capability ( operational in 1990 ). In the year 1996 the version Mirage-2000-5F has been introduced equipped with the RDV radar ( mechanically scanned ), that featured a faster search mode with a faster processor and longer detection range. The cockpit was equipped with 2 MFD's, with Up Front Controll and it featured HOTAS flightstick and throttle. The new engine ( M-53P-25 ) featured only a 4% additional thrust. The introduction of the MICA-EM ( active radar missile ) and MICA-IR ( long range red-infra with initial radar guidance ) missiles was the aircraft's strongest point. This version could barely be desingated as a 4th generation aircraft. France was engrossed with the developpment of the Rafale. Armee de l' Air had upgraded 37 of the existing Mirage-2000C up to the Mirage-2000-5F standard and about 33 of them are operational today with the purpose to initiate the new pilots into the air-combat before they jump into the Rafale.
Well I'll defer to your knowledge then I only know what I had researched in preparation for this video. European fighters are not platforms I'm too familiar with. Thanks for the info!
At least if you admit it... Your video contains quite few errors and approximations about french aircraft. I don't know the others well, but when you say that european jets are all almost identical at the start of your video, that's a big shortcut. Yes they have similar architecture but that's as far as it goes. In terms of speed, range, capacity and use, they differ a lot. And the difference between the mirage 3 and 2000 is simply enormous. Yes they are both delta-winged single-engines aircraft, but the 2000 is a complete new aircraft.
@@AviationAustin if european arent a thing you know too well, why are you making a video on it as if youre at all authoritative on the subject
I believe you underestimate the capability of the new SAAB Gripen E. They also call it Gripen NG. Look how it can start from roads and how fast is is turning in the air.
I'm mostly looking at the platform as it was introduced. Not every single variant. Also most of these aircraft are very similar in g-limits and maneuverability
@@AviationAustin I see what you think and feel. I am sure that Eurofighter is more clumpsy than SAAB Gripen but can can carry more bombs. I am glad for your work.
Thanks I try to take all emotion out of these rankings not by sticking to the statistics and numbers. A lot of people seem to prefer a ranking that says the obvious, whichever plane is newer is obviously better. That's a boring ranking in my opinion. I much prefer a ranking that considers not only capability, but highly favors innovation
But for that price u can buy 2 Gripens to carry as much bombs too 😂😂 eurofighter & rafale mainly just lack stealth, which makes them a very expensive 4gen+ jet..@@Bishop46066
@@AviationAustin You are clueless
The scoring image of the mirage 2000 is in fact a Rafale.
Mirage 2000 was a competitor of the f16. It brings the wire controls, so it was a breakthrough for French warplanes.
Gripen a 5 in Innovation. Are you for real?
Rafale has a marginally lower in T/W ratio 0.01 than a Eurofighter, but it eat 2t less fuel per hour, and 4t in AB per hour, making it the most effective military engine of his range in the world, never forget its the birds staying longer in the sky that wins battles, range weight and weapons load are everything
Just hearing you speak about Gripen in the way you did, means you kinda dont have an idea :l
rafale won competitons to the eurofighter, its just better
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I don't understand the versatility point on rafale, based upon limitations of the first version.. although EVERY machines are upgraded, french or not, to at least the F3-R block ?
I could understand for the 2000 ( and its C / D versions )
You never mentioned the electronic warfare capabilities of any of the airplanes
Eurofighter top of the list???? You really don't know what you're talking about! Only 3 countries bought this jet, 3 out of the 4 countries that DESIGNED and BUILD it. Despite it is more expensive, the Rafale was bought by India, Indonesia, Croatia, UAE, Egypt, Greece, and France of course, and they are more to come. You think it is just to please Dassault? Even US experts think the Rafale is impressive. You're certainly not better expert that the top Air force experts of those countries. Please, do videos about cooking!
This is not a video about what is best. Or what is the best selling. It is a video about the best engineered aircraft.
@@AviationAustin Do you think the position of the Typhoon's air intakes is a genius idea?
look at the Rafale air intakes and find why they have this position,moreover the Rafale is more stealthy than the Typhoon!
Buddy I am not a genius and for sometime I thought that Raffel was 5th gen but later realised that it was 4+ gen. I am an Indian so since India bought it I was curious.
I saw someone saying that Eurofighter has been collaborated by 3 countries and if others need to buy spare parts or upgrades than it will be a headache and many times Germany has destroyed it own customers based on bad after sales service. But with Rafael that problem wasn't thr. French don't want their tech to go to US, China, Russia so they are nice to others. I guess it has euro centric policies.
I also think that since Eurofighter is the best in the class so Europeans want it to keep it to themselves rather than give to others especially 2nd world.
So diplomacy, after sales service and price is a major factor as well.
FYI I am no expert on Aircrafts or tech.
I still don't know which is better compared with Eurofighter, Saab gripen and Rafael since they all were competing.
Very well said !
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So the Rafale should be placed before the typhoon for exemple, as it was announced after it, flew first and reached it's full operationnal capabilities before.
The possibility and feasability to upgrade extensively the plane was part of the base engeering of the airframes, the planes should be rated on the good or bad anticipation of their usage all allong their anticipated lifetime.
It was also the first plane to be totally ddigitally designed, also a major engeenering advance and I talk before about flight control systems wich are reputed from the release of the plane to be extraordinary.
Though I understand the rankings but to be fair on the gripen. When it comes to both hard points and range it’s made to be a homeland defender/ interceptor up fast attack, tune home to reload and refuel and it’s from what I know the fastest plain to reload, refuel and service and only need a truck at the road side to do it. It is build to be a dispersed action jet. Still in exercises it has stood up against most other fighters.
Making it hyper-optimized for a single mission type is a great reason that it doesn't score higher on versatility. The versatility score is specifically included because aircraft with single mission focuses don't have the success or longevity that more versatile platforms do.
A non-military example would be the A380. Super innovative, but it fills a very specific need. Hub to hub, long haul transit. As soon as the market thought that need wasn't relevant anymore sales evaporated and the program has been discontinued.
@@AviationAustin honostly i dont know any other weapon system who are fully integrated as the gripens
Hey Austin loved the list but you forgot the panavia tornado still operated by germany and used to be operated by the raf
I see i thought it was retired. I see it's only retired by the RAF. Thanks
and italian airforce
Looks like i owe you an aircraft ranking
Tornado was a beast.
I had a typhoon flying maybe 300m over my head last week.
at some point it was even lower, during a turn, pointing slightly to the ground and I thought it's going to crash into the city I live in, but it didn't.
Bundeswehr is practicing WWIII again in Germany 😛
I've heard they practice bombing runs on a big factory in my town (been doing this since ever).
also we once had a eurofighter crash into a field nearby. pilot ejected and survived. that was ~20 years ago. I remember my grandpa was outside, not too far away from the crash site when it happened. he was with a friend of him and both old men jumped into the bushes and had flashbacks to WWII. my grandpa yelled "the russians are coming!" =P
I've come to really appreciate the differences in concept and design from nation to nation - I find it hard to commit to a favourite because each are equally stunning but for beautifully different reasons.
I'm just glad that we all respect our own processes and allow each other to pursue, deploy and cultivate our own air fleets and nurture our own industries and economic development...
...I mean, at least no one goes around with briefcase and ball-bat ,,politely" suggesting their product and potentially causing truly unique designs/concepts/theories to be lost forever.
(Ahem)now, where'd I put the keys to the TSR-2 ? 🤔
The graphics panels for the Mirage and Rafale need to be reversed.
When you say graphic panels do you mean on the ranking? I know some images are reversed to try and make it uniform
Mirage 2000 shows side view of Rafale, on the Rafale side view of Mirage 2000 is shown. Its just wrong.
Slight issue, You got the rafale and mirage 2000 images switched around on their respective scoreboards.
Fixed for future videos
beside that, with those huge air intakes under the hull the typhoon is absolutely not "reduced RCS design"...those air intakes are designed for speed.
Wow, please read up on Gripen E and come back again.
1:42 why did you use a rafale image for the m2k and then a M2k for the rafale?
This guy doesn't realize that he only knows what he's been allowed to know.
Love your content…what about the Phantom and the Tomcat?
Tomcat is coming in my Top gun revisted episode. But I have not sure when I'll introduce the phantom.
A fighter that can have its engine changed by the road by a mechanic and five conscripts in 45 min from coming to a halt to rotation. It alone states its in a different league than the others.
You havent even begun to understand any of its basic abilities, let alone the more complex ones.
Ok, so it is all about the operating environment. For the Europeans, it is about interception because our most likely enemy is Russia. This means that the aircraft needs to be able to climb very quickly to attain defensive postures. US stealth aircraft just aren't powerful enough in the thrust-to-weight ratio. Offensively, stealth is important; that is why the UK has F35s. The Euro fighter is generation 4.5 which means its materials and EW aspects are stealthy but it does not sacrifice all of its performance to stealth in the way F35 does.
Latest 2 exercises shows 4-0 for Rafale and 9-1 vs Eurofighter , Rafale was not the latest version with AESA radar but with PESA .
Why Rafale got 7 for versatility while Typhoon got 8? Rafale can perform morr roles than Typhoon. Rafale also has Reduced cross section
He said because the Rafale was unable to attack ground targets for 5 Years, The Typhoon Never had that problem. That is why He gave the Typhoon an 8 and The Rafale a 7.
@@GOBUCS82The analysis is totally incomplete & eroneous... First, regarding versatility the Rafale deserve a better grade, very few features make the difference between the regular Rafale and the marine version. Also regarding the effectiveness the Rafale won against the F22 Raptor, the Rafale prove the effectiveness in Syria or Afghanistan. Even the Mirage which is older than the Euro fighter is more efficient and as a long history record
@@GOBUCS82 Which is unfair as the Typhoon had also years with no air-to-ground capability. What should matter is what all the fighters can do on the day of the comparative including updates of all fighters.
@@GOBUCS82 are crazy typhoon was built for air superiority ground attack came later in typhoon
Because he has no idea of what he is talking about
The Typhoon loses nearly every battle it did in military exercices against the Rafale....and just did some air policy in Lybia when the Rafales did the firsts strikes operations....in the swiss competition the swiss army noted the EF-2000 inferior to the Rafale in nearly every aspect (only in air superiority is was just "on pair").....Worldwide countries buy Rafale nowdays and not the Typhoon: it says everything...
Brazil bought the Gripen for one reason: technology transfer. With the Gripens sold to Brazil, Saab algo gave away all the technology they developed for it (Embraer wants to produce jet fighters in the future, I suppose). As a counterpart, Brazil is helping them to produce the Gripen for the international market. I saw a video about the Gripen factory in Sweden with the supervisor going: "oh, yeah, this part of the plane is made in Brazil and then sent here for assembly". Maybe that partnership makes production cheaper or maybe faster.
Rafale is definitely above typhoon... if you consider the overall opinion on youtube. It beats even 5gen like F35 for a lot of people.
This is not an opinion based ranking. It is based on cold objective numbers and the criteria explained in the ranking video.
Exactly !
A Frenchman would say that.
Not sure why the Mirage 2000 is discussed here...
The Mirage 2000 has been progressively replaced by the Rafale since 2001 (more than 20 years ago...)
The icons for your stat cards you had the Mirage 2000 and Rafael switched
You know that Harrier (AV-8B) you showed to demonstrate how advanced US aircraft are? We invented that in the 60s and have now retired all ours.
Egypt & Qatar also operate the Rafale
Mirage 2000 and then showing a side view of the Rafale, then on the Rafale showing the Mirage 2000, good job 😅. Says much about the accuracy of this video.
Aren't there more jets like the dassault-dornier or the Tornado?
Mirage 2000 was indeed very innovative: first with electric command for example.
That would be the F-16
@@AviationAustinThe F-16 built in 1976, the F-15 in 1976, the Hornet in 1983, even the F-22 is 20 years old, and your talking about European fighters being 4 decades old. Don’t forget the F-35 was a joint build.
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And Dassault is still leader in this domain. Not giving up the family jewels to Airbus (the flight controls techs) is one of the main problem in the contracts for the SCAF.
why Harrier only got 5 in innovation ，its vertical take-off and landing technology can be regarded as a revolution
Yea if the harrier was so bad why did the US buy so many of them lol
Random Military Lobbyist: This is better than that.
Random Defence Officer: Practice is the proof.
Global Defence Cartel: Get all that ready and prepare much more asap.
You get homework on the Gripen not many right there!
I guess the best european fighter jet is Dassault Rafale F4
Haven't you ever heared of the Eurofighter-Typhoon Tranche-4 version ?
Still Rafale it's N One!!! Period .
Let's say Grippens scrambling from their hidden airstrips, Rafales flanking low altitude and Typhoons covering high above, should be pretty nice.
I am brazilian, liked that you use the brazilian Grippen
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The mirage 2000 had the improvement of BVR technology, id call that innovative
Improvement of existing technology is not really what id constitue as truly innovative. It's modernization.
@1:22 that is not a Mirage 2000 shown but the Rafale...
You using the wrong pics for the Mirage and the Rafale and I don't think the UK flies the Gripen.
When? You have timestamps?
personally would give the typhoon a 7-8 on the price since its one of the best or rather say THE BEST interceptor out there right now and a very good price-performance ratio. also its in a development as a multirole, ECR version is coming out soon aswell. basically a f15-ex in a eurofighter
Price takes no consideration of ability.
@@AviationAustin still it has a good price performance ratio? i dont get what ure saying
Is it even a better interceptor than the F-22?
@@marco26gdm hard to say. both are very classified weapon systems. from what i know the eurofighter has more capabilities like HMD and other stuff, cause the f22 doesnt have it officially. yet we dont know if it actually is the case and that the f22 may have hmd now aswell. very hard to say
@lars9966 i think he is saying he is just looking at the price without taking anything else in consideration because the other aspects would be covered in the other sections
Funny how this guy describes himself in 3rd person in the text regarding this video: "Engineer Uses Ultimate Aircraft Ranking System to Rank..." :D
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The one thing you left off is the cost of operation which is a big part of running these jets. The Saab Gripen would win hands down!
Analyzing Rafale F1 standard instead of Rafale F4 standard makes your ranking irrelevant.
Rafale is upgradable by design thanks to Dassault editing and mastering Catia.
Since when does UK fly the Grippen?
It actually does for the flight training school.
Excellent question. Maybe he is confusing the UK with Brazil🤣
I still don’t understand why the UK flight school would buy them. Must be more expensive than just using the Hawk we own. ?
@@d.tim1989 use google bro, you guys have leased like one gripen D
I find it interesting that you would rank the Mirage 2000 low on innovation. Given that it is an old airplane (3rd generation), the question is not "how innovative is it now?", but "how innovative was it then?". On the other hand, you do not take into account the Rafale's technological innovations (phased-array radar, etc.) because they have been added more recently. What gives? Why don't you compare these planes as they are being sold currently (the Mirage 2000 is not sold anymore)?
I heard in this video that the Gripen flies for the UK. This is the first that I heard of this.
They have a leasing agreement for training test pilots, so isn't used for any military operations
3 Fun facts about the Gripen it one of few aircrafts that can do a cobra maneuver. 2 It is one of the most trust worthy machins over 190 k hours with out a fail 3rd The wings are special for Sweden plus the old model could revers so it could revers parking :D
The British harrier 2 is very different to the United States’ one, the British one cannot fire any radar AAM, its more of a ground attack oriented variant, the FRS 2 or sea harrier can fire radar AAMs but is is based off of the harrier 1 I believe.
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What a load of Bullshine!!…
You did not add the SU 30 sme
Hey could you please talk about the F-22 shooting the Chinese spy-balloon
What would like to know that hasn't been discussed already?
You forgot the Panavia Tornado still in operation for Germany's nuclear deterrent as part of the nuclear sharing agreement of Germany & the US. They are getting replaced by the F35As that Germany ordered but currently the Tornado is still in operation and saw recon missions in Syria against the IS. It's an old ass aircraft, but still operational in Europe. Germany actually bought another 15 upgraded Tornados for dedicated EW capabilities.
UK for the grippen huh? Also F35B had uk engineering involvement used for RAF and royal navy . Harrier was killed off quite a while ago. So let’s be fair eurofighter really only is beat by F22 for combat and F35 is used in different role
Don't tell that to China or Russia
The UK uses the trainer gripen in the flight training school.. Think they only have 1.
Love the Eurofighter.
It's a beast!
UK has the Gripen...?
No, this guy is wrong.
Yes as an agressor aircraft.
Rafale is most advanced European flighter.
BS video lol
There is a reason the Eurofighter looks like the Swedish Gripen!
The fact that the harrier is still used by the U.S.A is a testament to how good a plane Designed by Britain in the 60's built By hawker siddely in the U.K, fought in many battles. Recon if we put jet engines on our mosquito from WWII it would still be used today. 🙂
Good but quite poor... First in showing Rafale when dealing with Mirage and showing Mirage when dealing with Rafale.
The rest is the same.
This is like playing a game of Top Trumps, while enjoyable to a point it has little to do with the actual reality of the combined capabilities.
Knocking the quality of the Gripen seems strange as it probably has, one of, if not the the best mission availability of all of the listed aircrafts, something proven both during Ref Flag exercises and in the Libyan skies during Operation Unified Protector
Airbus isn't a french company. It's a European company. In this case it's Airbus defence and space that is located in germany
you know the eurofighter, rafale and gripen E/F/NG have around the same rcs ij ust feel that this video is under researched
Gripen has been robbed. Gripen is reliable and in exercises can cut it in a knife-fight with the best of military aviation.
Its electronics suite is also highly innovative and is said to be only shaded by the F35's and EA18G in terms of counter measures, detection and jamming.
On the other hand, the Typhoons are known to be a hanger princess, availability rates are abysmal from what I hear, so I recognise there's some good arguments regarding supercruise and range but if it were purchase time and Typhoon or Gripen were on the menu only, I'd be asking for the Gripen - particularly if we can get them 2-to-1 and still run them for a fraction of the cost of the Rafale and Typhoon. The running costs are lower than anything else, so I feel this should place it higher, throw in the versatility of being able to operate close to the front lines, offsets the need for significant range, it is a workhorse. Of course the size of the territory, and likely operating roles, and types of runways available might factor significantly in that decision too...
Speed is not important. Many planes have been brought down in speed as high top speeds are not useful.
Gripen should be at least third. Its radar alone is very advanced, dispersed ops capability.
Did you really ignore the Panavia Tornado? 😕
Somehow I missed that one 😕
how duded haha @@AviationAustin
Because it's retired
still active in german airforce@@AviationAustin
@@procrastinationpro8264 Still in service with Italy too.
2:35 that's a mirage 2000
Bruh the RAF doesn't have any sarb aircraft and im pretty sure nobody uses the harrier anymore. UK certainly doesn't
The U.K leases a Grippen and uses it as a trainer and I think the Spanish and Italians still use the aircraft whilst waiting for replacements as well as the U.S Marines
i sense some rafale hate over here...also mirage 2000s are kicking f16 ass every day for decades in the aegean sea. No mention of the rafale's rcs ... why the extra love for the ef2000? Rafale and the ef2000 are very close cousins.
Because the mirage is MUCH older. And they are so similar. It's like if apple were to barely add anything to their iPhone for 20 years. Of course it's not as innovative as the one 20 years ago.
"The Rafale hate", as you called it, is in fact a French hate.
Airbus is not a french company - its a multinational European company (British/German/Spanish)
Severely underestimating the Gripen here. Along with the Rafale they're the most versatile European fighter jet. But ranking the Gripen low on innovation makes less than no sense. If we're talking air superiority then the Typhoon would unquestionably top this list. The Rafale is the best of the European multi-role fighters. But the Gripen is without peer when it comes to versatility, innovation, and cost effectiveness of any 4th gen jet in the world--not just Europe.
what about the ""tempest"
I don't do concepts
coming from the Russian fighter ranking the difference between this video and that one is huge in the ranking details, i come away with the knee jerk reaction that you were more critical of Russian aircraft but I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the time difference on the releasing of the videos. I understand that I am but one person but I was wondering if you would consider making a video compiling all the rankings and differences based on aircraft type like just a quick over view of comparing nations planes to their counter part from another nation. I know this probably came off as a really negative comment but the Video is definitely good it just felt more glossed over then the US and Russian ones, which is fair with so few planes to go over and so little combat experience to boot.
Seems like the comments wanted more details. I didn't give much into the details on this one as so many of their capabilities were so similar I didn't want to bore the audience by continuing to repeat myself over and over saying, "X capability was average, Y capability was average..." My next video is a compilation video of all my ranking videos, but it doesn't include any new details other than some more context and the overall fighter jet rankings at the end.
@@AviationAustin that’s kind of what I figured when I was trying to make sense of the lack of details but I couldn’t quite put it into words. I look forward to the video and thanks for clearing things up for me.
Saab gripen does not fly for the UK
They have gripens on lease for training test pilots. Obviously not used in active military operations
Mirage 2000, first alo flybywire ?...
You Missed the panavia tornado
I think you should take a better look at rhe Gripen E.
giving an 8 to versatilty to typhoon and a 7 to the rafale when u know both was designed as a multirole fighters but typhoon couldn't due to the additionnal side wings just below the cockpit making ground mission not opperable, and the fact there is no naval version for the typhoon, is not accurate at all.
also the 3 for the rafale at cost is a bit rough when u compare the price to its concurents. i would have put it before the eurofighter because it's a better multirole, and the eurofighter is just slightly better on air-air, but rafale is combat proven and really efficient in it.
btw i would also put gripen at 3, won't elaborate seems logic.
Do you mean effectiveness?
the disrespect to the Gripen and swedish aircraft is crazy 😭
What are you talking about?! I love IKEA!
Disrespect? I have no IKEA what you are talking about?