The Beatles Now and Then Review
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2023
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Thanks Eddy, your review here articulated what I was trying to say to a friend about this song.
Love hearing this! Thanks for commenting!
An oddball ending to an oddball band. Much obliged to the lads. They passed the audition.
great Vid man .. ya changed your mind awesome!!
I love the video especially the ending and final bow then empty stage,they definitely passed the audition,
Also to me anyway it represents life and the fleeting nature of it
Of all the 20+ reviews of this song that I've watched, this is my favourite.. and definitely the funniest!
Thanks, Stefan. Glad you enjoyed it!
I like John's original demo and in some ways I wish they'd held on the "I don't wanna lose you" falsetto bit but I do like The Beatles new version overall. I kind of wish they'd used their time in the mid 90's more on making a backing track and possible overdubs than fighting with the quality of John's tape though so we could have had more George on the track.
I think George only played a bit of guitar back when they worked on it in the 90s, so there wasn't much they could do in that regard. The Beatles' tracks -- especially by the time they got to The White Album -- didn't always involve every member, so the fact that there's minimal George doesn't bother me. One of my issues with "Free As A Bird" was them inserting every member so prominently and not allowing it to primarily be "a John song" y'know.
John in a round about way did give Paul consent as the demo was on a cassette labeled "To Paul" which Ono said nothing about it until the early 90s. John, Paul and George were demoing songs in the late 70s and early 80s with the intention of working together as the fan four on Ringo's album slated for early 81. Allan Douglas talks about this in interviews about conversations he had with John while producing Double Fantasy. John was expecting feedback from Paul. The tape never got to Paul in the 80s as he wasn't aware of it.
Thanks for weighing in: I didn't know about what Allan Douglas said about the demos, which makes sense. Of course that's not the same as giving consent for Paul to turn that demo into a Beatles song in the 21st Century. I stick by what I said in that regard: John would hate it. At least the John of 1980 would've hated it. In his last Playboy interview he was back on the pro Ono, anti Beatle/McCartney tip. Yeah, if John wasn't murdered, he might've loosened up in this regard as he got older and who knows? Maybe he would've come around to writing with Paul again or even wanted to do a Beatles reunion. However, we can never know that. I'm just going by who the man was around the time of his death (and for the majority of the 1970s). Like I said in the video: I'm glad they did it and I think Paul did well by John (at least musically speaking). But again, that's not the same as John giving his consent to make "Now and Then" a Beatles song. Wanting feedback on songs he was considering for a Ringo album is not quite the same thing as using his voice on the demo and making it a Beatles song post his death.
@@EddyCannistraci I'm gonna take a step forward on this and say, I think there was "John" the public superstar that enjoyed rattling cages in the public eye and then there was "John" the sentimental guy behind doors. If you listen to Allan Douglas talk about the sessions for Double Fantasy, he spoke of how often John would break into "Beatles jams" during the sessions with the session players and would even brag about the The Beatles and say they were best "fing" band ever. Additionally I'd even guess (this is just me reading between the lines here I will admit) and say that John acted one way when Ono was present and another when he was just being with the boys in the studio. For whatever reason, I feel that she intimidated him.
@@jarret-phillipmarcel6520 You've definitely done your research and I think you have a lot of insight regarding John's personality. In the mid 70s, during his separation from Yoko, he suddenly had very positive and nice things to say about Paul to the press (he even said Band on the Run was "a great album") and he was planning on collaborating with Paul on a song on Venus and Mars (which I'm sure you know), but as soon as Yoko beckoned and accepted him back into her life -- bam -- no collaboration with Paul and in the 1980 interview, John's back to dismissing all of Paul's work after the Beatles. Obviously Yoko had a powerful influence over John and he was acting out an" abandoned mother" thing with her (he even called her "Mother"). So yeah, maybe deep down inside John wanted to work with Paul again and was using these demos as a way of tiptoeing back into it (without making "Mother" mad at him).Once again, great insights, Jarret. You made me feel better about enjoying this song!
I am glad that we agree that this is a much better send off for the band than Free As A Bird. It's been nice seeing people of all different generations enjoy a new song by The Beatles.
I agree with everything you said. Thanks for commenting. 😉👍🏼
Yeah, "Free As a Bird" doesn't do much for me, but I like "Real Love". IDK, that dark harpsicord bit is kinda bangin' 😆😉
@@seanbeckett4019 I do like the harpsichord on "Real Love".
Awesome, I was wondering what the heck you thought of the new song 😆 I like it well enough, although there was something about the video that kind of put me off initially. Can't quite put my finger on it. Rewatching it again, I guess its sweet or whatever, IDK.
I have mixed feelings about the video too: I found when "Happy Hello Goodbye John" was dancing around during the beautiful and wistful guitar solo cringey and tonally off. Still it's better than the Stones' Angry video. At least you see old Paul and old Ringo in it and you see them actually working on the song.
@@EddyCannistraci Oh, it's definitely nowhere near as bad or cringey as the "Angry" video. Even just thinking about the Angry video makes me cringe and wince 😬😏
As (almost) always agree 100% 👍
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As much as I enjoy your reviewing skills, I’m also here for your world view. McCartney playing the long game - recommending Andrew Watt to pay back Jagger for Allen Klein. 😂
Ha! That's right! The secret beef goes way back...!!
Check out the version that ALVARORTEGA did years ago.
Will do...!!
1:45 😅😅
Already got my first laugh and first sneer at that bit...!!
Actually you're wrong, the original cassette was hand written, "for Paul".
Yeah, I simply don't believe that. If those words were on the cassette it was an Onocation.
Witty, perceptive & irreverent take on the new release( I especially loved the 'Macca, as in Machiavellian quip!). I love the subtle layers that make the track a real grower. John did throw Paul a lot of jibes Paul's way but, deep down I think he missed him.. 'Woman' from 1980 is ostensibly about Yoko, but the melody & tone of that track is so similar to 'Here, There & Everywhere'...John's favourite Beatles song( by McCartney). Paul says that when he writes a new song he wonders if John would have dug it or not...so, they always seemed to be channelling messages back & forth in a subliminal way...even after the horror of December, 8th, 1980...
Thanks for your thoughtful comment as always. Despite my sassing of the lads, I agree that deep down John thought Paul was the shit. A revealing compliment would often slip through his jabs in interviews (recognizing Paul as a great bassist and songwriting partner). And I think if John had lived, Paul and him would've at very least recorded a Jimmy Page and Robert Plant style collaboration album if not a full-fledged reunion.
@@EddyCannistraci I always had the feeling that if John had lived Bob Geldof would have persuaded The Beatles ( & Bob Marley, come to think of it, if HE had been spared also) to do something for Live-Aid. That show reunited Zep, Sabbath & The Who into an appearance...admittedly, with mixed results. Geldof also got Floyd back with Roger Waters for Live 8 ...20 years later( let's face it, that will NEVER happen again)!
@@EddyCannistraci two interesting things the demo tape Yoke gave Paul with Real Love, Free as a bird and Now and Then had 'For Paul" written on it. So I assume, John was thinking at least that Paul's input was something he was interested in (who knows maybe was toying in his mind with a reunion.). The second thing (and I don't subscribe to anything mystical) The last words John said to Paul were along the lines of "Think of me now and then old Friend." Which I'm sure caused a special connection for Paul with the song. It is probably a reason he couldn't let it go even after Harrison had called the song, "Fucking Rubbish." Anyway, great review. Enjoyed it.
@@jaypenn5117 Thanks for weighing in. I knew about the claim that the demos read "For Paul" but I don't buy into that and I didn't want my review to become a conspiracy video, so I decided to not talk about it. The second bit about John's last words to Paul I didn't know. Very interesting. I do think finishing this song meant something to Paul on a personal level and I think it benefited from it (as you know from my video).
Another cool video! It actually made me listen to the song, which I have been successfully avoiding.
Also, Ringo Rules! People who say different are idiots.
Like you, I never cared for the demo. The Beatles version is a triumph of production and arrangement. Paul worked some real magic here. While not the greatest Beatles song, “Now And Then” is better than many existing Beatle tracks. Great work.
Thanks for weighing in and not just because we agree with each other. 😉
Great review 🎯
Thanks! Appreciate it.
I agree. I may like the new Stones album. But no song on it is as good as now and then.
It's now science: Beatles bested the Stones!
Hell I thought you didn’t like it lol
I came around to it and you helped me to think of it in Lennon/McCartney terms.
Who is this guy?
I'm Eddy Cannistraci. Welcome to my channel.
Listened to it and was totally bored.
Obviously I felt differently, but I can hear it being boring to some people.
Most AI generated songs (as any AI generated thing) are pretty ugly for a very simple reason: people doesn't know how to use this AI technology!
For a person of my age, I consider AI a great innovation and, not just useful but very entertaining too.
Let's start saying that NOBODY has any problem with adding effects to guitars, but, for some mysterious reason most people have a big problem with effects added to vocals, and I insists in calling it "mysterious" because nobody is able to tell why ... it's like when asking for a personal opinion people's brain short-circuits !
Nevermind that, let me explain why AI songs sounds WRONG: if you want to make an AI song in the style of Michael Jackson you gotta sing the "eh eh" and the "shammon", do not expect the AI to add it for you ... and if you do not do anything to imitate the voice of the singer you want to use in your AI song, logically the song will sound wrong ... and WRONG is the right word to use.
Most of us didn't like Now and Then at fist because the piano, the bass and the drums sound too modern and too bedroom pop at the same time ... nothing like any other Beatles song.
We need to teach our brain to understand why we don't like something, rather than just force us to like something by listening for days on end. That's manipulating ourselves .... and it is probably not a smart thing to do !!! We've already seen between 2020 and 2022 what happens when people conform to the norm by forcing oneself to conform to the norm (yeah ... I know ... sounds like a conspiracy theory ... that's because you've been exposed to this mentality ... it is not your thought).
Thanks for your very thoughtful comment and you've brought up a lot of great points about AI and how our minds react to things we're not used to: I agree with both your takes on the subject. I'm an Oasis fan and I've kept up with Liam and Noel in their solo careers, plus I like some modern pop acts like Lana Del Rey, so I think that's why the more modern production sound didn't bother me (although I'd prefer it to be less brickwalled like most pop music for the past 20 years). Like you said, I think most people attempting to recreate the sound of deceased artists with AI are bound to fail to some degree because they'll never replicate the X factor (the little unexpected and off the cuff moments that the best artists usually exhibit). But that doesn't mean there can't be great art created via AI just like any other technology and like I said in my video, I think AI has become too much of a buzz word and it makes it seem disconnected from past advancements in computer technology and therefore more foreign than it actually is.
I didnt think it was that great. I mean how old are you anyway? I was in the state Pen in 92. I dnt mke parole, I maxed out. The Beatles are dead. They died in 69. same year I got out of the Navy.
I'm 45 and despite loving the song, I'll still admit it's not a great as what the Beatles did when all the members were alive and, y'know, in an active band together.
I don't like the Beatles, the new song sounds like AI Beatle dribble. The Stones 'Sweat Sounds of Heaven' blows it out the water.
We like what we like.
true@@EddyCannistraci
The new Beatles song is crap doesn’t sound anything like the Beatles would put out
Thanks for weighing-in.
That's just like your opinion, man.
@@johnpoole3871 The Dude abides.
Wow "no disrespect to Paul McCartney", "the almost-dead" Paul? Not cool nor accurate man, have your takes, skew them to the negative if you like but let's have some perspective.
Obviously I have a massive amount of respect for Paul McCartney: I spent a large chunk of the video praising his talent and genius. But the man is 81 years old, so let's be real about his life expectancy, okay? It's just a little gallows humor.