3 Venators vs 1 Imperial I class Star Destroyer - Star Wars: Empire At War Remake NPC Battle
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- You will witness a cinematic 1v1 space battle between 3 Venator-class Star Destroyer and 1 Imperial I-class Star Destroyer in this video. Video is based on a comment from @JIMvc2. I hope you enjoy it, and if you like my content, please subscribe for more videos and leave your impressions in the comments.
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As a result of the unexpected increase in views of this video, I receive an avalanche of comments like "the video is wrong, this would not happen". I have the impression that many do not read the title or the description of the video, and do not notice that it is written somewhere NPC Battle. To make it very clear, the ships are controlled by the AI in the game, I just create the custom map, choose the ships and use the cinematic camera to follow the action. I have no influence on how the ships move, they will only do what their scripts allow them to do. And the fighters are missing because they didn't have a major impact in this video. In the game/mode the AI-controlled fighters are either destroyed very quickly or fly randomly without engaging in combat and at the same time they are a pain for the multiple frames on the footage where moments of the actual fight are lost. For this reason I have not enabled them in this video and many other videos for a good period of time. If you look at more recent videos you will have fighters in the videos.
it’s all Republic fans pissing themselves because they can’t stand the fact that an Imperial-Class absolutely washes the Venator
It's all because no one understands what they're looking at, and they want to see in an NPC Battle the reality from the movies or the way they imagine the battle would go ideally. I personally don't care who wins, I just try to make some interesting and pleasant videos.
Wait people not reading any of the available information before commenting out of hand!? Inconceivable!! lol. I enjoyed the video for what it was. The AI is pretty basic in regards to capital ship maneuvers. That was a hard won victory for the Republic. Makes me want to reinstall Empire at War.
There is no way that fighters didn't have an impact. In Empire at War, Ventators carry like six times as many fighter craft as does the imperial star destroyer. And there's three of them.
Venators fighters are useless when controlled by AI... Watch this and then tell me how much impact they had here: czcams.com/video/SFG32Bkw2pE/video.html
At the loss of one venerator, this battle could’ve been won a lot sooner. By having the other 2 venerators maneuver behind the star destroyer and take out the shield generators and engines. And then just pound the hell out of it from 3 sides.
Bro this is remake mod, the ISD don’t have engine model
Lmao
If they had had starfighters, with a single Venator they would have finished off the destroyer, 420 Venator starfighters vs 72 of the Imperial starfighters. In this video the 3 venators must have had 1260 starfighters.
Keep your n mind the uploaded has no control of the ships. All ships are controlled by NPCs
@@elantrax20you know this is EAW remake mod, a game right?
The only problem I see with this battle is the complete lack of fighters that would have swarmed the Star Destroyer, eliminating all Ties, destroying the shield generators and some of the plasma cannons and turbo lasers.
best defense/offense on campaign mode (Imperial or Zann Consortium mode!) ... is a wave of 30 TIE Defender squads on each base
No its ship vs ship
ISD’s held HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of fighter bro
@@ifoundmemallet3394 72 fighters, 12 bombers, and 12-24 interceptors. 🤓😎
@@GryphonArmorer That’s the game bro. Star wars canon is MUCH different
You can actually beat a imperator with just a single venator if you target the shield generators first and use it's bombers and heavy proton torpedo tubes.
Exactly!
@@monsterB0BYou could also lock it in a tractor beam and slow it down as its moving. Its why Starhawks could solo isd's once you grabbed them the ships own engines would rip it apart.
That doesn't make sense) If "just target the shield generator" was such a simple and easy solution - there would be no lasting space battles, since everybody would do such an easy thing)
@@fraisertinko what everyone thinks is the Shield Generator isn't really the shield generator. They also forget that despite how powerful Mon Calamari Cruisers shields are due to redundant systems, the Mon Cal ships still weren't a match against the Empire's Star Destroyers, especially at close range.
Granted Star Wars videogames have help solidify this belief that the two bulbs on top of the Star Destroyers Bridge superstructure are shield generators (Rogue Squadron and Empire at War come to mind), but listen back to the Return of the Jedi scene, the crew member didn't say they lost their Shield Generators, They "lost their bridge deflector shields". And that was after the explosion, meaning that the shields protecting bridge were gone. And the crew understood that after something part of the bridge got destroyed.
It's actually impressive how people believe X is Y because they didn't pay attention to what was shown and said on screen.
@strategicperson95 facts bro, misconception is real and the fan base doesn't know much about the lore or the actual process of how things work, same as how under powered ion cannons are and turbo Lasers are in the game where concussion missles and proton torpedoes are just bs ignore all armour and shields of a ship, if it was that easy the droids would of wiped the Republic every single battle without any issues
The Republic isn't going down without a fight!
They did, indeed, go down without a fight-to roaring applause
Not that surprising of a result as the Star destroyer is built for anti ship combat specifically while the Venator is more designed as a assault carrier.
Without the major advantage the Venator has (large fighter compliment) essentially they had to rely on overwhelming numbers to win.
That’s like putting a Ticonderoga up against a PT boat, but taking the Ticonderoga’s missiles away
@@Matt-yg8ub The fact you don't realize that this EXACTLY how the Venator was often used is just endlessly fucking funny to me. Prequel kiddies are so fucking hopelessly clueless when it comes to actual critical thinking; you can cite Scarif and (pretend)you remember anything about it, but somehow, those childhood memories of countless TCW space battles wherein Venators are ALWAYS used as line combatants, and constantly fall 'in droves' to fucking Munificents and the like just seems to have somehow slipped your mind. Funny, that.
@@papapalps2415 so let me see if I’ve got this straight, you only want to see the Venators utilize the most ineffectual tactics possible, you want them to charge headless into the guns of the ISD in an obviously suicidal frontal attack, no nuance, no strategy, just a full frontal attack, not as part of a battle line providing cover for fighter operations or as an overall strategic thrust, you just want them to sacrifice themselves as quickly as possible so that you can get your jollies off watching them die because of sheer fucking incompetence?
I think you’re the one who pretends to remember the clone wars where the CIS had 10 times as many fighters as the GAR and the Venators were primarily utilized to transport and provide suppression fire to screen their fighter squadrons…..which are the main offensive element of the vessel.
Many of the battles we got to witness were intentionally designed to be cinematic, given the supposed range of turbo lasers and accurately depicted battle would just be blinking, dots hundreds of thousands of kilometers distant firing streaks of light at one another.
Things are done in the movies because they look pretty, not because they are accurate …. Unless of course you really want to except that a flaming kitchen sink can actually penetrate capital ship armor and cause explosions the size of a 747
@@papapalps2415 Well, brother, on the one hand, despite their design more oriented towards air superiority, the Venator are still a main battle cruiser. Naturally, they must be on the front line or at least prepared to show their faces, since the Republic's fleet is so weak. or mediocre that they do not have other cruisers more capable of withstanding a direct attack is not the venator's fault, on the other hand it must also be said that the CIS fleet is very OP (well in general the CIS is ridiculously superior to the republic), The Munificent and Recusant frigates have enough firepower for their type of ships, and the Providence cruisers are terrifying, I say they are one of the reasons why the Imperial class were designed, and they can still fight as equals against them, so As such, the use of the Venator is not bad, the problem is that it is basically the only competent ship of the Republic without counting the Mandator II class battleships, without better support options or more specialized, it is normal that the Venator are the ones that end up doing more than they should and therefore suffering more than normal
@@papapalps2415yea no shit they were used as line combatants. It was the main capital ship of the republic fleet… but it was NEVER without its compliment of starfighters and as had been shown on many occasions, when faced with separatist ships they were many times outgunned when going ship to ship. IT’s strength comes in its fighters and there no denying that so stop acting like you know something others don’t. Cuz you don’t
honestly had venators be apart of the actual imperial navy the galactic civil war probably be different, you could essentially have them as light carriers meant only for deploying fighters on to the battle and while the enemy is dealing with an isd fighters and venators you could basically call in for a ground assault
plus, they had a lot from the war. some overhauling, and they would be good enough for a police action. only the largest rebellion ships could take them out easily
Well in the start they did have Imperial Venators while the ISD’s were getting built.
@@Awesomegamer4567 true that is. But had the empire kept the use of venators they wouldn't have a need of a death star the orbital bombardment is fear enough
Honestly Im suprised the rebelion didnt take the venator and Clone wars stuff other than the Y-wing
@@myrandomcorner3460 that would have been smart to do
I gotta admit I got way more invested into this than I thought I would, especially after the first Venator went down. Dang near started shout casting. I love the Venator. Great video!
Thanks for your comment! If you want to see more, here is a 1v2 variant of video with fighters active: czcams.com/video/SFG32Bkw2pE/video.html
Even tho the Venerator cant go toe to toe with a star destroyer without help it'll always be my top favorite ship
The Venators true strength, comes from its ability to rapidly deploy multiple Starfighter & bomber squadrons.
Star Destroyer clears
the Venator's help is actually INSIDE the Venator
I know this isn't lore friendly but it'd be really cool if something like this DID happen, some sort of Republic Remnants fleet
Ion accuracy really needs to be buffed in this mod. Right now their basically useless because of how often they miss their target entirely. This leaves any ship without missiles or fighters significantly under powered compared to ships with them.
also I noticed during the battle there was a little while were the third venator straight up couldn't hit the ISD, nor was it firing torpedoes. Goofy.
(edit) I think I know why, the Venator is trying to engage at maximum range, which is the range of it's torpedoes, but slightly further than the max range of it's main batteries. I still don't know why it wasn't using torpedoes though.
It's torpedo launchers might have been taken out. That's one of my favored tactics.
Yea that’s the great part, you could change the accuracy yourself if you go to the files and change a few numbers, i did it before to increase tubolaser range and and accuracy and it was a game changer
It makes for a rather unsatisfying battle when the computer intentionally screwed the pooch By firing from beyond the range of its weapons
@@Matt-yg8ub thats AI or artificial idiocy for you. Makes you wonder if its really difficult to write up a program for the ships to put their design and features to best use. Something other than "walk into enemy fire in a slow leisurely manner while firing back the same way."
@@tr4480 the most frustrating thing is knowing that an ISD can be taken out by a handful of starfighters, but Four giant carriers can’t take this thing out because they aren’t allowed to use fighters and are intentionally squandering what capabilities they do have
They really have nailed the look of the turbo lasers hitting the shields just looks so good
“Concentrate forward fire power!!!”
New vs old, the inevitable March of progress.
I was surprised how it long it lasted. As someone who played EAW and FOC for a long time. I got good at the ship vs ship thing lol.
Great video 😎👏🏻🙌🏻
With the amount of fighters, I think even one Venator would be enough to win the battle
Possible if the Venator is controlled by a player. But NPC vs NPC doesn't. An ISD NPC can defeat 2 Venator NPCs with active fighters: czcams.com/video/SFG32Bkw2pE/video.html
Losing 2 ships to destroy one ship shows how much better the Imperial I class is.Love those ships
Esta es un barco contra barcos, unos que se utiliza como Porta Aviones y otro como Destructor antibuque, o si no hubiera cambiado, ya que 3 Venators, ya te imaginarías la gran cantidad de cazas, bombardeos y de todo tipo de caza que se desplegarían
I feel like the venators woulda used their fighter wing rather than go toe to toe with an ISD
Fighters are useless in videos like this, NPC vs NPC, the AI that controls them doesn't make them as effective as you think.
Imagine a Star Wars story where an old Republic attack fleet of three Venators actually traveled forward in time and took on an Imperial Star Destroyer? I'd love to see that.
Now imagine if at least one of those venators circled around and attacked from behinds or if one venator was able to deploy its fighter and bomber compliment
...or even take the lead to save one another.
Both ships look cool, but damn from an angle at the end the star destroyer looks so menacing
Anyway, it was still fun to watch. I used to sit and just draw my space battles on endless notes of blank A4 paper, with colouring pens...and spent hours laying there drawing battles, with ships, and swarms of fighters. Now, it has come alive thanks to this amazing game. I really should take up gaming...
to be honest this is like an aircraft carrier engaging a battleship, entirely unreasonable, the venator would use it's bombers
That's one hell of a fight! Excellent! For a "fair" fight though, make it a Super Star Destroyer.
Venator-Class Star Destroyers for the Abso-fraking-lute Win here!!!!!
Well that's an expected result since the venator Proton torps is very helpful
The Wedged Shaped designed of the Imperial Star Destroyer is very good looking and intimidating, the only downside is that they never took advantage of the wider hull to place more Turbo Laser Turrets on the forwards placement frontal arc that could actually bare full barrage on enemy ships not build on the side of the superstructure that could not open fire completely because it was block by the front facing turret.
The most simple solution to this kid of problem is give their broadside turrets an elevation starting from the 2nd turret next to the front turret to the back like battleships do.
Yeah, it's too bad George Lucas didn't know more about navel design when he based his star destroyer on WWII battleships. The fact that both the Venators and the ISD are very limited in their firing arcs since their main batteries are not centerline or superfireing. The best thing to do instead of pointing straight at the target would be to dip the bow down to clear all the big turbo laser turrets.
@177SCmaro Lucus forgot that space battles can use different angles and depth points than surface water battles. Spaceships are more like submarines than surface ships.
@@kharilane1340 Exactly but i seems George Lucas focus of recreating a 18th Century NAVAL Battle than actual Space Battle.
@@nikkotan2840 An 18 Century naval battle with starfighters doing WWII dogfighting.
@@kharilane1340 right again.
Ok so a lone ISD has the firepower to go guns against two Venators and win but needs to be part of a battle group for more than two good to know
And this is without fighter support
I would expect a compliment of fighters to swing things in the Venators favor heavily, as that's three flights of fighters vs the SD's one. However, if this were an ISD II, the octuple guns might swing things back in the Star Destroyer's favor.
Based on what ships being used? If they're clone wars era fighters then they're all outclassed by their Imperial counterparts. TIE Interceptor's would decimate the V-Wings and ARC-170's. TIE Defender's, TIE Bomber's, and TIE Reaper's would ensure that the swarms of inferior craft aren't able to complete their attack runs on the ISD. That way the ISD simply focuses on capital ship bombardment. @@Mr-Lister
In any other battle gaining a height advantage would see a win but here, with both ships having their main armament on the top hull going under your opponent and blasting the hell out of it's belly would be the wiser course. In the opening scene of A New Hope the Star Destroyer has a few guns underneath, in an episode of the Clone Wars (animated) a Venator escapes by exposing it's underside to the enemy as it turns away.
I want an episode or two about a conflict like this in Bad Batch Season 3 - Clone Rebellion Arc - Venators VS The first Imperial Class Star Destroyers
the effects are great
I love how the republic fans are going "but if you do it like this the star destroyer would have no chance!" As if this isn't a gun to gun brawl between NPC's and as if the Imperial star destroyer wasn't built for this sort of combat.
Finally someone who noticed that it's a NPC battle😄
@@cinematicnpc Haha XD
if the venators had their star fighter complements, they would have won easily.
won way easier as in a lot less losses, minimal casualties.
Then the imperials would have won east
@@saac0937 but not north south or west. This kind of battle goes to the carrier with the standoff capability at least 75% of the time if not more….. three carriers with a combined 1200 starfighters could massacre an ISD without ever exposing themselves to counter fire
@@Matt-yg8ub They can't, though, and no amount of copy pasting 'b-but, fighters, thoooo??????' like as if 1200 fucking V-Wings who's total armament consists of fighter scale proton torpedo launchers at absolute best is going to do anything to a ship with a reactor outputting teratons of energy a second will change that.
@@papapalps2415 bro, X-wings and bombers are what the Rebellion used to take down ISDs. You really want to make the argument that the XWing is exponentially more powerful than 100 times as many ARC-170s ?? How about the bombers, each one of those Venators is carrying close to an entire rebellion worth of support craft.
You should do one like this where it is the full battle of Coruscant.
Good origin story for Captain Shack’s Liberation in AotR
The two venerators on the flanks should have moved further to the sides to force the destroyer to split its fire.
I love the Remake's scale of the SSD when compared to TR. For me in TR the Executor is just some bigger Pizza Slice while in the Remake it's THE Pizza Slice
lol
A battleship (ISD/SSD) versus three carriers (Venators). If the aircraft in the actual hangars were loaded, the Venators would have won due to sheer presence of fighters and bombers penetrating the shield and taking out key targets and hardpoints on the battleships exterior. Still nice to watch just because cinematic space fights are awesome like that in Star Wars
Yeah but than you would have to give the ISD its corvette & frigate escort, an ISD would never engage alone, with the on board garrison & maybe extra fighters from something like a TonFalk carrier, the Venator would have a tough time getting enough bombers & fighters trough in one piece.
The thing about Venetor Class is that its essentially i guess a Light Carrier rather than a full on boom boom ship. Its strength lies in its airwings which the hangars for it take up most of the ship meanwhile ISD is one small hanger with 72 Ties while Venetor has more than double that. I think this still makes Venetor better as its more flexible in its reach. One ISD can go boom boom true enough but its essentially a ship that requires a bunch of smaller vessels to support it Frigates, Cruisers etc because it cant really send its own smaller vessels on missions so if ur far away then its kinda "Oh well they are too far away and we have only 1 ISD" I think this will make sense to some of you. Not to mention that Republic fighters are superior to Tie fighters and this is due to the empires glass cannon doctrine when it comes to fighters. They put alot of power and speed into the Tie Fighter but it has no shield and no hyper drive but it has powerful lasers hence Glass cannon. With all this in mind i think 1 Venetor with a commander who knows how to use its airwings will beat an ISD simply because the Tie Fighters are no match and will be destroyed and then the Venetor bombers will just bomb on and on as the Venetor is shooting at the ISD.
16:16 in this video the imperial class star destroyer has meet it's match.
How many attack/bomber starfughters can a Venator carry?
Two of the Venators carrying bombers launch bombers far out of laser range. Staggered formation , target, fire torpedoes. First bomber wave return for reload. 2nd. Bomber wave continue with attack fighters. The Venators all move to flank the SD. 1st bomber wave returns to launch more torpedoes.
I fully see something like this happening in The Bad Batch where rogue clones get ahold of a few Venators, intending to restore the Republic. Then just when it looks like the clones will succeed, we get the first canon appearance of the ISDs
Good video.
Were there fighters involved? Watching on my phone didnt notice any but could be too small for me to see.
I know you weren't commanding either fleet, so I guess the AI doesn't know about the one weakness of an ISD. There are no rear facing weapons. He has 3 Venators, have 2 face it head on while the third circles behind it. Oh, and this was a cool battle. Any chance you could do one where there are starfighters as well?
Man I wish the star destroyers were shown to be this powerful in the movies, that would’ve been awesome.
Everyone appears to be trying to work out easier and faster ways for the Venators to win, but what I saw was an ISD operating in the finest traditions of the over-grown, under-trained and poorly skilled Imperial Navy of the immediate Post-Clone War period. It just sat there, no maneuvering at all and masking most of its heaviest batteries. This is kind of what I'd expect from a Navy that has grown massively in just as few years and simply run out of trained cadre to crew its ships. Add to this the likelihood that the Command Staff were promoted for political reliability rather than merit, and the abysmally poor performance we see in this battle makes a lot more sense.
An interesting and different comment from many that I have received. The problem is that everyone tries to explain how Venators would win, thinking that they are players or that the game can recreate something from movies/series. No one reads in the title or description that the video is an NPC Battle. All ships are NPCs.
And npcs are extremely limited in what their programming can do
The battle nobody thought of
If this battle would have included the Venerators complete complement of star fighters, it would have ended a lot sooner. The second I noticed the venerators did not have their ships deployed I thought it was all over. Interesting take, I do like it :D
I didnt see the part about the fighters. But in actual battle with humans and not AI, I think 3 venerators would win. Each one had what, over 500 fighters on deck, all piloted by clones. If they still had clones piloting in their prime then yeah, venerators would win. Not a pretty fight, but they would win.
@@RPDTyrant103But the fighters don't matter, though, because they can't do anything.
@@papapalps2415 Bombers absolutely matter and would tip the scale in the Republic's favor in this battle.
@@aZakthatAttacks Sure. That isn't what I said, though. Fighters. V-Wings or Torrents or whatever are not making much of a meaningful difference, bar to deal with other fighter craft.
Although regardless, even the bombers being enough is arguable; 3 Venators should have about an equal reactor output/offensive punch to match or exceed an ISD, and the bombers would absolutely be helpful, but it's somewhat dependant on the commanders and the circumstances; a clever enough ISD captain could very well win.
@@papapalps2415 the Venator just cant match the shield shredding power of those ion canons, their output might be comparable but their main batteries & shields are much weaker and when the shields go down they are toast. I agree regarding fighters & bombers, they are cool but an ISD would never engage alone, it should have a bunch of corvettes & cruisers as escort, those would put up an anti fighter screen so i doubt those 3 Venators could win in any scenarion in a direct force on force confrontation.
Given the sheer amount of firepower an ISD has, those Venators did quite well despite losing two of their number.
If this were an accurate representation of ship capability at it's fullest the ISD would never have closed to range. But since its a game it becomes a simple damage output vs target strength calculation. Each venator has 14 total 12 weapons harpoints for a total of 42, the ISD can only target one ship at a time, the ISD has 29 total hardpoints 27 of which are weapons. Yes the Venator had half the shield strength and half less than half the weapon emplacements but thats why theres 3 venators. Sacraficing one venator to strip shields amd destroy the ion cannons and hangers means the other 2 survive with minimal damage.
The ISD would have been better to position itself so that the other two Venators couldn't get completely clear shots on the ISD. Tricky in such a space environment which as someone else stated is like a submarine like area of operations, but still feasible.
I know this is just ai controlled/simulated, but if this were to actually happen, the 3 venators would have won in minutes, flanking and manuevering around the star destroyer but also the fact each would have a few squadrons of fighters to help target weak points
Damn the graphics!!!!! I need those mods!!!!
Just like a tiger and three shermans
Lol, I know that scene
My expectation was that the Imperial would take out one Venator, and heavily maul another before losing the fight. Also, I'm not sure it's an accurate match, as none of the Destroyers used their starfighter compliment. The Imperial's TIE squadrons would be hard pressed, both screening the Venator squadrons, and trying to actively swarm them. If this represents an Imperial vs. Alliance battle, I'd say a squadron of B-wings, properly used, could give the fight a decisive turn.
The ISD could have used its broadsides, but neither did the Venators attempt to share armor. I feel the outcome would have been two surviving Venators, if they had done this.
Because this is only just a Capital ship on Capital ship battle. No other help just using their guns.
So the venerator has like 420 fighter craft and the Imp has 72, so 1260 vs 72. And most carry proton missiles or bombs, so was the ensign left in charge of the battle tactics
'Most' don't, no.
Why did the captain of the Imperial Star Destroyer only use two batteries of heavy turbolasers? He has six of them. And didn't use heavy ion cannons? Did the captain of the ship also forget about the air group?
На планету упали из космоса 3 подбитых корабля, каждый длинной более 1 километра и весом сотни тысяч тонн, а ещё у Венатора 1 главный редактор + 3 вспомогательных + токсичное гипер топливо, в трюме нейтронные бомбы и т. д., на Империале тоже самое и даже больше.
Результат боя на орбите планеты :
Внизу планетарная катастрофа, разрушены целые континенты, активизировались все вулканы, землетрясения, наводнения, цунами, заражены радиацией и токсичными отходами сотни миллионов километров, началось глобальное вымирание всех живых видов, голод, разруха и т. д.
П. С. Думайте о последствиях. Всегда в фильмах этот момент обходят стороной, а после снимают фильм катастрофу про падение метеорита. 😀👍
П. С. Спасибо автору за ролик. 👍👍👍
A Victory class SD has a lot more fire power, shields, and armor than the old Venerator, but if fighters were involved, it would've been a whole different fight.
Do the NPCs in this game just sit still until someone is out of firing range and that'sthe only time they will move?
Really the battle would come down to how well the slower I class could screen the bombers of the Venators while said venators stay just out of weapons range of the I class while fending off their bombers and fighters. Given there are three Venators I think they actually have a bigger compliment of fighters, bombers and interceptors which would give them the edge. Also the quality of the clone wars era fighters would be another edge as the Tie's are for more en mass low cost units. In the end though it comes down to the skill of the captains of the ships and how well they can exploit their advantages and the foes weaknesses.
Remake is the only mod out there that carriers or fighters can go toe to toe with a big capital like an ISD and have more chance at success than the capital. Even FoTR and TR need you to spam more than a few carriers to win a battle.
Watching an ISD advancing from its prow will never be not cool. It looks so menacing..
Anyway, in a pure ship vs ship scenario, the Venators’ proton tubes is their best weapon here: it could have either taken down the shield generators, or those heavy ion quad cannons first, and the ISD would have had a much harder time.
Kinda was expecting more of s hail of fire from the Star Destroyer.
with the shear amount of fighters a Venator carries, this battle should've been over a lot sooner 😂
Imagine if Admiral thrawn was in charge of those Republic cruises or the Imperial style destroyer
One thing about the venators they were designed to fight above their weight class with numbers
A 3v1 overwhelmed the confederate Droid command ships so beating an imperial SD isn't a stretch
I wonder how a harrower-class dreadnought would do against an ISD.
This is cool, but one Venator can quickly kill an Imperial-class Star Destroyer simply with its attack craft. We're talking about a class of ship, but I and II, that easily are bested by a handful of fighters _consistently._ The Imperial would simply never have even gotten in range to start shooting. Either being kited around, killed too quickly, or the Venator would simply hyperspace out once its craft were deployed and come back a few minutes later to gather them and laugh at the shattered enemy.
Kek, the amount of cope you people employ in these comments to defend your clonetard bs is crazy. You just watched what a battle on pure vehicle specifications alone and no plot armor looks like. You know, when the trained gunners can hit their targets.
@@helghast1149 a minor amount of trolling
@@helghast1149Venetors are like aircraft carriers. They blow up the enemy with their fighter and bomber. A Stardestroyer is a battleship.
@@helghast1149 fr
@@TorianTammas so the star destroyer should have won this battle your saying
In 1983 the GOTY for computers was Lode Runner. In 1984 it was Star Wars.
How far we’ve come….
The hilarious thing is, such lasers wouldn't be able to fly through space in this way. They need to be full on beams, lightsaber like, or point beams where it flashes from the gun and hits the ship in the next nano second. These lasers? they'd simply veer off into space in a circle, orb like blob.
The Ventators greatest strength wasn’t used, it huge fighter corp. That happens to be the ISD’s greatest weakness.
It's three ancestors vs one incredible strong descendant.
You warp in the 2 ven's at the backside 😊
Considering each venetor is equipped with atleast a squad of y-wing, thus battle could of been over before it began
The Galactic Republic vs The Galactic Empire.
This just shows that the empire is much better than the Republic. I'm glad that the Galactic Empire took over! We can not have unloyal, unpredicteble, and dangerous clones to fight for us! The Empire is the best! LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!! LONG LIVE THE EMPEROR!!!
this is why I always prefer Venators over ISDs ... weaponry and compliment variety + shield generator boost ... like an MC75 but with destroyable shields!
If Thrawn was on the bridge, it would have been a day for the Empire!
how can I make such a sketch in the Star wars empire at war game with the remake mod (clone 2ars)? So that you can choose a tedious number of ships
Honestly as much as I love the Venator and feel saddened by the end result, I’m not that surprised. The Venator may be able to pack a punch but the Imperial 1 can take a hit pretty well… and since the Imperial 1 was built for far more devastating warfare compared to the Venator’s seige based design, the Imperial simply had a lot of beef and power residing in it, and that’s enough to overpower a Venator… now if Anakin was in one of those Venator’s, the battle would have been VERY different. XD
Where are the fighters/bombers? For both sides.
I think Rebel Alliance using Attack Cruiser for their new weapon
Haven't played this game in awhile
The physics in the SW universe are great. You do not have to worry about orbital mechanics, gravity, Newtonian laws of motion, etc. All that aside, the tactics leave a lot to be desired. If I was the Imperial, I would come in hot between the sun and the Venators, and do a gun run as a fly by. Then zip over the horizon and force them to follow me. Turn around and come at them again for another gun run. If I was the Venators, I would split up and hit the Imperial from behind and in front and from the side.
ah yes 3 air craft carriers versus a fucking battle ship. this is like comparing the two. my guy they were used so differently
Venator is also use for ship to ship battles, so I don't see any problem to use 3 of them vs 1 ISD.
@Cinematic NPC so? air craft carrier's were equipped to handle ship on ship action too doesn't mean that was thier primary focus. and neither was the venator. this would be better if you'd include their supporting small fighters tho I understand why not (you'd probably crash the game) but still.
@@pako5586 The Venator was a Carrier battleship hybrid but it mostly focused on its carrier capabilities. But also were made for capital ship on Capital ship combat but not to the degree on ISDs. This match up was a match up against Capital ships on Capital ships. Not Capital ships on Capital ships with extra help.
Imperial I Star Destroyer:
Shoot me bro!!
16:35 I never realized before that the Venator class star destroyer looks like Jar Jar Binks from some angles.
FOR THE REPUBLIC!
Would make more sense if they would actually try to get closer to another.
Also reminder: Venators had big ahh lasers shooting out of their hangas, which didnt come to light at all
Honestly, I can’t think of a scenario where the ISD isn’t completely hosed. A single Venator has superior Fighter and Bomber complements, and the ISD has minimal point defense. Facing 3 Venators means its paltry 3 squadrons will be overwhelmed and destroyed rapidly, the fighters will then turn to attacking weapon emplacements, as bombs launch to come in for the kill.
Go broadside and circle. When shields drop to 20% roll to present new shield face.
Launch TIEs but keep them behind the Destroyer to act as a QRF against enemy fighters targeting the weakened shields.
If they split up, herd them farther apart so they cant support eachother.
If they stay together, mass TIE bombers behind the ship with the fighters and launch pop-up attacks using proton torpedoes. Fire them unguided at extreme range. Some will hit, but they'll all be a hazard. Will also hamper the launch of enemy fighters.
Work your firing angles. I don't think all of the heavy turbolaser batteries were firing. I only saw the two forward batteries actively engaging. Drop the bow so they can fire over eachother. Dorsal firing arcs are best for the heavy guns.
Wish the game had more control options.
Maybe someday a sequel will come to the game with a bit more options
good
How many TIE Fighters does an Imperial Star Destroyer have? - maybe they should use them.
ISDs were weapons of terror while Venators were weapons of war. Big difference.
Had that been the Chimaera, with Grand Admiral Thrawn and Captain Pellaeon at the helm, this battle wouldve shown exactly why they are called destroyers in the first place....and why Palps put his trust in them and these ships.....😮
one Vc could beat a SDc if proper tactics are used; ie use a Vc as a carrier and send out bombers and fighters first to take out shields and guns of the SDc and then bring in the Vc to finish them off
the outside 2 should side slip towards the back of the star destroyer as they fire on it!!!
Venators are broadsiders in addition to assault carriers, having the middle one turn to broadside while the two on the sides keep moving to broadside the ISD would make a republic win faster
So my question is how did ya manage to get three republic ships? I thought the remake only had the enpire and rebellion.
Use Clone Wars Holdout Factions submod for Remake so you can play with Remanants of Galactic Republic and CIS