Hoxton Pubs (for people who aren't hipsters)
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- A tour of pubs in Hoxton, in the East End of London. The usual inspection of the exteriors and the interiors, and a look at the history of the pubs featured. Covering a typically eclectic range of themes along the way: British martial art singlestick, the Salvation Army's ill fated attempt to intervene in immoral behaviour, the tallest pub in London (?), a tale of two Prince Arthurs, and attempts by 1930s pub builders to get people to behave, likely as ill fated as the Salvation Army.
Wenlock Arms
whatpub.com/pubs/NLD/5523/wen...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Sh...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wen...
Eagle
whatpub.com/pubs/NLD/5515/eag...
pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Sh...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_G...
George & Vulture
whatpub.com/pubs/NLD/5492/geo...
pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Sh...
Prince Arthur
whatpub.com/pubs/NLD/5495/pri...
pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Sh...
Stag's Head
whatpub.com/pubs/NLD/5490/sta...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stag%27...
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
As always thanks to Ruth Siddall's Pub Geology guide:
www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfbrxs/Homepa...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:45 Wenlock Arms
5:16 Eagle
10:12 George & Vulture
13:17 Prince Arthur
16:48 Stag's Head
19:40 Outro
More pub heaven from my favourite CZcams channel!!! Nice to see the subscribers increasing!👍 Well deserved. I hope the CZcams gods don’t start messing up about.
Well done mate, keep it up!! Paul
Thanks Paul! I did think about making one of those "thanks for 1k subscribers" videos, but I suspected the people who follow the channel would far rather I just get on with it and show more pubs! I too hope I don't inadvertently do anything do displease the CZcams gods, for the time being they seem to be smiling on me because I think I'm doing my bit to fill a niche which was surprisingly underserved on CZcams. There aren't many other channels about historic pubs out there as far as I can tell.
You drop your aitches at ' Oxton and ' Ackney and pick them up at The 'H'angel !
I lived in Hoxton in the 80s and the G&V was a Fuller's pub then, too. Was always in the 'decent local boozer' category.
Hipsters have a great deal to answer for. Including, imo, the proliferation of wildly expensive beer brewed in bathtubs and the accursed grapefruit flavour ails (sic). Great vids, very informative and, in the main, right up my street.
What a great review Tweedy - i dont know that area and it was great to learn about places off the beaten track.
That said, your vlog did remind me of a very drunken night many many years ago at the Eagle - and that brought back great memories. We worked in the Strand and for some reason found ourselves in the wild east. Less said, soonest mended etc......
Great pubs and lovely to see them still going.
Thanks Rob, and good to hear something of the good old days (or bad old days depending on how you look at it) of the Eagle remaining!
To be fair John some decent puns there. Wenlock was good, loved the tallest pub.. A weasel goes into a pub, landlord said we've never had a weasel in here before, What would you like to drink....POP 😂goes the weasel😂
Thanks for yet another interesting pub video. Liked your mention of the Welsh beer called Cwtsh, here in Wales it means to cuddle. 👍
Thanks Ysgolgerlan! I really wanted to like Cwtch, given the name, but just couldn't get past the grapefruit! As it happens one of my favourite beers of all time is Welsh - Hancocks HB. I'm not sure it still exists, but it was a very traditional bitter and no hint of grapefruit!
I guess I must be from an older generation when Hoxton pubs sported a different fraternity of gentlemen playing with Dinkey toys on the tables planning the next bank iob 😅
Proper “honest” crooks back then, not todays online “scumbag” scammers.😂
The Pop Goes the Weasel explanation was superb, Tweedy! How utterly fascinating. I had no idea the nursery rhyme referred to a pub that still exists, either. Of course, my enjoyment of nursery rhyme-based content could well be influenced by there being one with my surname in it.
If we must have Christmas decorations, then the Wenlock Arms demonstrates what they should be like. Handmade chains!
Great sequence down with the kids at the beginning there, and what camera shadow - I didn’t see one?
Thank you! When my daughter was a toddler, getting her to sleep was a bit of a marathon, often involving singing (it's amazing that ever worked considering how utterly tone deaf I am). Given she was born in London I thought it would be appropriate to focus on London based songs, including Pop Goes the Weasel. So I had already researched the meaning of the lyrics long before this video. I liked the idea we might one day pass the Eagle on a bus or somesuch and I could point it out to her, and remind her of the song. Obviously when that opportunity eventually arose she wasn't really interested!
One bit of footage I cut from this video was a mention of the fact Marie Lloyd popularised that "My old man said follow the van (and don't dilly dally on the way)" song, which is also something I used to sing to my daughter to try and get her to sleep. She never seemed very convinced by my attempts to do a Cockney accent.
In yet another bit of deleted footage I talked about Marie Lloyd nearly being turned away on trying to enter the USA for "moral turpitude", which resonated with me, having very recently been watching videos about Sebastian Horsley, who was denied entry to America on the same grounds.
Those young people at the start also seemed to be making some sort of video, so I thought they'd understand. As a nice book end, as I was filming the outro, two young ladies were standing nearby within earshot and saw me talking to camera. I told them I was feeling a bit self conscious, and I was "just doing some CZcams crap". They replied "Oh, we're doing Instagram crap".
@@TweedyPubs It was the act of reciting nursery rhymes to my children (mainly to induce sleep) that got me thinking about their meanings and origin. I may have tried the odd bit of Cockney too. Anything to get them to sleep, basically.
Of course nowadays, I would just make them watch some of my own “CZcams crap” - that would do the job!
How the world has changed. I imagine it’s now a requirement to demonstrate “moral turpitude” in order to be allowed into America.
I neglected to commend you on the successful Hipster avoidance, by the way. No mean feat!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd I have to admit to being oddly fascinated by hipsters, as subcultures go it is (was?) nebulous, and I struggle to think of another example of a youth movement which would refuse to even acknowledge its own existence. Call a punk a punk or call a mod a mod and they'd be delighted, but nobody would ever willingly self-identify as a hipster. I think that's partly down to the inherent cynicism in the ideology (if that's not too grandiose a term) that went with it, that anything you had actually heard of was therefore mainstream and passé, and that obviously included hipsterism itself.
I don't know if you ever watched Nathan Barley (I think it aired around 2005) - it's rather niche, and I'm not sure how well the comedy would have dated, but it was amazingly prescient of hipster culture, and the rise of social media etc. Interestingly they never used the word "hipster" at any point in the show, instead just referring to them as "idiots".
I didn’t see that, but it sounds like I should. Obviously - now that I’m a CZcamsr - I have totally shunned mainstream, legacy media, but I’m sure a 2005 production will be allowed?
It’s interesting that you describe hipsters as a youth movement - I always associated them with slightly older people - say, 30 plus? This may very well be my limited exposure. I think it all took off around the time I was 40 and I knew peers who suddenly adopted large, carefully sculpted beards and moustaches.
Are they actually still a ‘thing’? Possibly evolved into a youth group? I know some of them do wear tweed. Badly.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Yes maybe "youth movement" isn't the right term, and I think you're right it was certainly never really a teenage phenomenon.
Very hard to tell if they are still a thing - given that they themselves would never have admitted they were even at their peak!
Nicely put together, Mr Tweed, what an enjoyable watch.
Some enticing looking "real" pubs there.
I've not heard of the Hoxton area before, (not a Londoner, me). It sounds like something out of Emmerdale...
Thanks AFT! Hoxton probably isn't that well known as an area of London, and to be honest I probably wouldn't put it high on my list of areas to go for a pub crawl. I partly featured it because I know I have a bit of a bias towards central / north London and haven't covered much of the East End, but also I do think if nothing else the Wenlock Arms is worth the trip to that corner of town.
The Wenlock looks exceptional. No carpet, just wooden planks. Oh I wish such proper “ pubby, pub “ was my local. 👏👏🍺👍😀
Oh the scourge of “grapefruity” beer 🤢
It is a great pub - although alas these days even there we're not entirely safe from grapefruity beer!
@@TweedyPubs 🥴🤢
I wish this video had come out before I stayed in Hoxton last week but then again there were already (thanks to your videos) more pubs to visit than I could get to. I focused on the "historical" pubs, liked them all though my favorite was Cittie of Yorke. We do get some of the Sam Smith beers in USA but I had never tried their Old Brewery Bitter. It was very interesting to say the least.
I think you made the right choice - the Cittie of Yorke is a favourite of mine, in fact really one of the pubs which started my love affair with pubs, which I think I talked about in the video where I covered it. Although I agree the actual beer offering at Sam Smiths is a bit divisive!
Thanks for the Pub tours! Love seeing them and learning their history
Thank you for watching! I'm fairly sure pretty much every old pub has some interesting history associated with it, but some seem to be better documented than others.
Another amazing historic pub tour. I will be back in London next week and will raise a pint to you in one of the random pubs you’ve featured in this series cheers Tweedy 🍻
Thanks Scott! Hope you have a good trip to London.
@@TweedyPubs Thank you. I’m meeting some friends around Charing cross. I want to do a small pub crawl, and was thinking Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese, The Old Mitre, but what other 2 would you recommend? Thank in advance
@@SC07T My two other favourites in that area are the Seven Stars and the Cittie of Yorke (must see the back bar), but the Seven Stars is quite small, so depending on time of day / day of the week you might end up having to shiver in the street outside!
When I've taken other people on pub crawls in that area often their favourite (to my slight surprise) was the Old Bank of England, corner of Fleet Street and Bell Yard. It's quite close to the Seven Stars.
If you're starting at Charing Cross and don't want a long walk to pub number 1 then there's always the Ship and Shovell!
@@TweedyPubs Thank you for these recommendations Tweedy. I highly appreciate you taking the time out to reply. I will try to visit all of these, in your honor obviously 🍻
I really enjoyed this - you're doing a great job documenting these pubs and while the descriptions of architectural details go a bit over my head, it’s better to have a bit too much detail than not enough.
Thank you! I do see what you mean about the architectural details, it probably isn't top of most people's list of things which make for a great pub! That said, I think the architecture of these places probably has more influence on the atmosphere than we may give credit for.
@@TweedyPubs Oh, I agree with that too. People don't necessarily recognise the style of a pub but they feel the atmosphere. I just meant the great thing about CZcams is that you can be as niche as your own interest dictates, without a producer telling you to cut out the bits about gable ends. TV has been dumbed down so much, it's good that people can now make their own programmes.
Love your London pub videos. Thank you.
Thanks Peter!
Deffo agree too many of them grapefruit ales about give me a mild stout or porter real ale any day 🍻
Very happy to hear we're in agreement! I really enjoyed the bitter at the Wenlock but in hindsight now I wish I had gone for the mild, it's such a rare thing these days.
Fantastic channel
Thanks Si!
Tweedy, succumb to the allures of a tulip of grapefruit sour gose with a clever name….it’s whispering your name….it’s siren song nigh well unshakeable mean. I’ll be in the corner sipping a jar of good stuff. But you should totally go with the hipster beer!
Another great video, thank you!
I don't mind the occasional unusual beer with a fruity twang, but it's frequently the case now in London that over half the hand pumps in a given pub are something or other which tastes predominantly of grapefruit. I don't even have anything particularly against grapefruit but am I the only person who thinks this is a bit over the top?
@@TweedyPubs No. No you’re not.
Another interesting and informative pub tour. Hope you don`t run out of areas to do these tours. I suppose it depends on how far afield you are prepared to go. Just like them to keep coming as you move to your next landmark of 2000 subscribers.
Thanks JohnRob! Still a few areas of central London as yet uncovered and a few which merit a second visit! Plus much more to do outside of the centre, and the rest of the country. Hopefully many more videos still to come!
That`s good to hear.@@TweedyPubs
I have to admit that I hadn’t heard of Hoxton before - clearly I’m not a hipster! Some nice looking pubs in this video, especially the 1930s one. I wonder what your next area will be, and whether I’ll have heard of it - maybe you could do one around Little Venice. Cheers, Andrew
Yes Maida Vale / Little Venice is definitely on the list, sort of a follow-on from the Paddington video, given that I stayed south of the station that time. I'm also considering Hammersmith sometime soon - some of those pubs along the river there - but that feels like one I'd want to wait for nice weather for.
Enjoyed that and found it very interesting 😊👍
Thanks Jim!
Wonderful stuff
Thanks Galveenus!
Great videos enjoying watching them new subscriber
Rab
Scottish borders
Thanks Rab! ...and what a beautiful part of the world you live in - I spent Burns Night at St Abb's Head this year, really magical.
@@TweedyPubs thank you i stay just a very short drive St Abbs ,grantshouse I am watching oxford pubs at this time
Cheers
Rab
'Good one Tweedy as I've yet to visit this area on my visits. Like you, I despise these citrus, grapefruity beers that have infested so many English pubs like an Alabama tick, they are ghastly and undrinkable really. Also, I am dismayed that so many boozers have gone to pastel colors on the walls, it makes it seem as if they are more akin to a florist shop than a place to saddle up for a proper pint. Keep pressing on, we are enjoying your videos here at the Jersey shore and pining for the next visit to the UK.
I'm glad it's not just me who doesn't like grapefruity beers! I'm all for pubs providing a range of beer styles to suit different tastes, and clearly some people like those kind of beers or they wouldn't sell... It's just frustrating when they end up taking over, and you can't get a simple pint of decent bitter at all in some places. My local pub has four hand pumps for guest beers, and it's not uncommon that all four of them are given over to various types of citrusy pale ale.
Yes I'm similarly dismayed by the paint jobs in many pubs now. Although in fairness the objectionable pub "makeover" isn't a new phenomenon, alas. There was a particularly bad spate of that in the 1960s, when many pubs stripped out their original Victorian interiors to be replaced with garish modern styles. I remember watching a documentary about this wherein a guy said he went round buying up a lot of those fixtures and fittings, kept them in a warehouse, then sold them back to the pubs when the fashion for mock-Victorian pub interiors came in a couple of decades later.
Link to Ruth Siddall's Pub Geology guide is broken
I love Broken Sorry Ale....hard to find these days
I almost wonder now if that was a test, and that it might have in fact been a genuine beer, only for those in the know!
Oops, I might've spilled the beans when I let the cat out of the bag@@TweedyPubs
I was hoping to catch a sight of the "Hoxton Hockler" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_Reeves_Big_Night_Out#Novelty_Island
That was a wonderful blast from the past! I managed to find a clip on CZcams to refresh my memory.
@@TweedyPubs I loved that show, particularly Novelty Island and The Man With The Stick. I had Vic Reeves Big Night Out all on VHS back in the day. 🙂
I must admit I do like a 1930's pub.
Wonderful pubs! Shame about the limited selection of ales. Still Guinness is a reliable stand by.
Yes after the Wenlock the interest from a beer point of view at least went down hill very rapidly!