How Powerful is Heihachi Mishima?
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2021
- How Strong is Heihachi Mishima? Here’s your answer! If you guys enjoy this video, check out the other Tekken vid on the channel!
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Surviving a million punches too his soul , just as impressive as suriving a Nuke
Akuma came out of nowhere and became the strongest Tekken character
He’s definitely up there!
Adding him too the canon , was a stupid idea , he would have been perfect as a guess DLC along side Geese Howard . And Negan from walking dead wtf lol ? If they had too had a Western comic character why not add Marvel Punisher , Daredevil or Iron Fist , DC Batman ? They made weird choices in T7 ..
Heihachi for some reason reminds me of Goku of dragonball and that made me intrested in the dragonball series 😄
I think they use the same stance and the spiky hair does help.
edit: I forgot about the Gi ,they both use a Gi most of the time and have increadible resiliance.
Yo, you gonna do an how strong is kyo kusanagi? Also great analysis
Wouldn’t be a bad idea! I’ve been wanting to get into the KOF verse
How much strong jin kazama
@@zedking3410 i do believe both are massively strong, since base jin can one shot jack 6 who destroyed an island busting meteor, and the devil gene boost him a lot, he prob is around country to multi continental and kyo scales on the orochi dimension stuff, like the 15km wide storm and the even bigger volcano landscape, and then orochi who is stronger than shermie, yashiro and chris combined and his dimension was destroyed tanks to kyo and iori, later there is some crazy stuff like saiki and shit but i don't think kyo scale to that overpowered femboy god
@@marlonfarias. akuma in the comics is outerversal and its canon and i dont even need the comics to prove akuma is outerversal cuz kage alone is outerversal and no one not even the power scalers notice hear is why kage is the embodiment of the satsui no hado embodiment meaning a abstract concept or a manifestation of a concept or formless or physical form and akuma one punch kage who is only a shadow so that alone go put akuma outerversal cuz he embodies dualities like kage and kage embodies the satsui no hado itself and there is even arguments of akuma being high oiterversal in the street fighter 5 game itself to the comics he mocks kage and stated he is nothing but a souless being so by akuma logic outerversal beings like kage is literally nothing to him and that street fighter 5 is literally canon to the comics its comtinuable to the comics so at akuma peak in base he is outerversal to high outer and oni is canon to the comics so the oni form go be boundless and his shin form go be boundless also akuma stated death itself is beneath in the comics also he even fight Gil who is stated to be a metaphysical lemme repeat this again Gil is stated to be a metaphysical the street fighter 5 characters insane and alot scales to akuma czcams.com/video/Z1EMlfNb6KMh/video.htmlttps://czcams.com/video/PLsV5WjW8PA/video.html
Another cool video,I did like the Kazuya one better though.
Actually the devil beam that brought down the satellite has been calculated at only small city level not Mountain level
The way the character dodge those devil beams is very iffy honestly.When Kazuya did it it was fired in a straight line,when they are fired at characters in cutscenes they hit the ground below and keep moving forward closer to the opponent.In other words Heihachi never moved at relativistic speed himself
The Honmaru explosion is not mountain level for Heihachi
1)The size of the mountain is unknown.Didnt look big to me
2)Only a small portion was destroyed
4)Heihachi was mostly send away instead truly tanking it,it's not the same.Its like how in a fight you are advised to roll with the punch cause being still will hurt waaay more.
5)He was put in a coma for 2 months.So if a character is 1/4 of a mountain level he can essentially oneshot him and put him in a coma with brain damage
Humans have survived lightning bolts,the average lightning bolt delivers 1 BILLION joules(in attack potency that's BUILDING level),an average healthy untrained human in special physical shape can deliver a normal punch of 75 joules.
Obviously humans are not BUILDING level
Ascended state Heihachi doesn't FULLY scale to Shin Akuma and True Devil Kazuya in power.First off he initially got knocked out by the same attack Shin Akuma(who was overwhelmed by Kazuya) withstood later,Kazuya also didn't looked tired after knocking him out.He did manage to revert Kazuya but he also lost his own power up at the same time,he literally damaged himself by damaging Kazuya,that alone shows he won only by higher willpower and desperation.He was the underdog in that fight.Saying Heihachi is as strong as him is like saying Rocky is as physically strong as Ivan Drago cause he beat him.Thats how Heihachi has always been,someone that's stands up to supernatural threats by sheer willpower.Humans can achieve incredible things when they are desperate,cornered and completely outmatched,there so many stories of people moving ridiculous weight through adrenaline when their life is threatened
We have been over this many times.
Tekken Akuma does not scale to his Street fighter version or his Asura version.Crossovers are not allowed in debates.
They didn't "level" the volcano,they caused it to erupt.Which is like city level assuming it's average sized
Heihachi catching the tomahawk is non canon and nowhere near as impressive as his canon feats.Its like what?Wall level and Subsonic?Why bother use that feat?
As for the comics they are non canon,I think it started out as something that would be canon but then they got crazy with the story so it was disregarded.Either way they were only good at exploring Jins relationship with his inner Devil.
Bonus comment: I think Young Heihachi>=Jin based on Tag 2,they still seemed relative to each other in the Combot ending but Heihachi did awoke a bit earlier.All the Mishimas are at the same level with only small gaps between them.
Young Heihachi>=Jin>=Lars>=Old Heihachi>=Kazuya>Jinpachi
I am sure Kazuya has greater potential than Heihachi even without the devil gene(although not as much as Jin cause both he also inherits the kazama powers)but he simply trains for revenge,he doesn't truly love martial arts and fighting like Heihachi does and that seems to have always held him back
The downed satellite feat wasnt calced as far as we are concerned unless you have a link or such for this being a thing
They reacting legit to it, to dodge something close to you, it needs for you to react to it, nowhere have they moved before its fired or when too far away
The honmaru and what else destroyed from the explosion by itself may not be, but from other stuff they are, jacks are stated to have plutonium as blood for them in old bios and are mass produced, gun jack can withstand the dmg the satellite done in his ending, meanwhile jack 2 died to it, jack are improved each generation, jack 4s self destruct output would need to be above the satellite power it had, on screen 8 of them are with Heihachi and all self destruct in his face point blank, him getting launched from that doesnt debunk or take away from the full power of the explosion, you cant anyway say that when it was from all of them pilled on him and in fromt of him
Him getting knocked out is irrelevant, he fought Jin previously before getting attacked by Jacks, as well as fighting off a number of them before getting tossed at the new ones in a pile, so Heihachi wasnt in peak condition and tanking that so close also had it more rough
Young Heihachi isnt > other Mishimas, Akuma stated in tekken 7 he waited all this time for Heihachi to be on equal footing with him, this means the old man Heihachi is beyond his younger days, in T5 story for Heihachi he beats Jinpachi even in his demon form, in tag 2 Jinpachi in human form when putting more effort overwhelms on the other hand the younger Heihachi with his aura, you might say "non canon on both", but it goes in line with Akuma stating older Heihachi was strong enough to fight him on even ground compared to his younger self
Also Kazuya beat or had the upper hand on Heihachi more often, instances like Heihachi winning in tekken 2 and 4 dont count as per lore narration and visuals from cutscenes we see Kazuya didnt get a hold of his powers till nesr the end of 4th game, which his story states too that he can beat him after he has the devil gene under control, in tekken 7 he had more of an edge over Heihachi in cutscenes then the other way, let alone Kazuya in the end survived way longer to end it
Lars also beat Heihachi in t6 and the latter wonders how he could do it, Lars then ties with Kazuya and Jin later on, so Kazuya has more to say he is >= Heihachi currently
Ascended Heihachi scales fully to True Devil, you cant compare with Shin Akuma and say it debunks the idea when Kazuya goes in that form not long after he fought Heihachi moments ago, so he wasnt in top shape, especially when Base Akuma briefly could hold it against that form, as well as even after getting knocked out from Shin to have power to clash in a hadoken vs laser beam with Kazuya still in that form, it makes no sense scaling wise
Plus Ascended Heihachi didnt get knocked out from that state unlike Akuma was out of Shin, let alone the fact that you stated too he knocked Kazuya out of the form along him getting out of his too, thats evenly matched or Kazuya was slightly above at worst
Also the stages they fought are volcanic areas, saying an average volcano fits that is downplaying, also seen on g1 blog a calc on T2 volcano feat which ended in the hundred megatons/mountain level
Well it should be mountain level or more because TK5 ground zero stage is extremely a HUGH massive area, which heihachi got attack by multiple Jack robot's
@@blackdarkness6798 czcams.com/users/clipUgkxvrki3RRb_mwERC_n_2Iu_jghitY2tqld is this like moon level or naw
Edit: 🤔because of the shock wave I mean
He literally survived multiple point blank self-destructive explosions from JACK units. What the hell are you talking about man.
is soul edge andthe devil gene related the eyes look the same at 2:04
if he is real character. he is champion in ufc.
I think most Tekken characters would kill it in the UFC lol
He is strong but my 82 year old Baba would destroy him. She's already fought and defeated black holes.
The light speed thing is honestly bunk. Heihachi never dodged the lasers head on, Kazuya moved them across the ground and Heihachi moved out of the way of that. It does mean he’s still pretty fast because geometry, but he has no light speed or anything near light speed feats
Also surviving the shun Goku satsu is insane. It’s both a physical AND karmic attack. Basically, one’s own karma is used to punish the soul and is equivalent to being sent to Naraka. In Buddhism, the only beings capable of doing this are divine beings. Seems apt considering I believe Harada said that the myth of the Mishima family is that they are descendants of Raijin. This still means very little because karma is attached to the conscious soul of the individual and it means that everything Heihachi fights for her truly believes to be the right thing and has already come to terms with who he is. It borders on being a Buddha
The raging demon thing is so random lmao. Also as far as the light speed goes, it’s admittedly a high ball. The question would be why doesn’t Kazuya just fire head on if Heihachi truly can’t react 🤣
@@melodyllama_4988 why would Kaz do it! Because the choreography looks sick af and environmental destruction lol
I would need to do energy calcs on velocity needed for a human of Akuma’s side to sink an island (not canon to Tekken but the platonic ideal is intended). I wouldn’t be surprised they’re light speed, I just think there are other feats to consider. I do know that they are moving at potentially hypersonic though given they’ve made concussive blasts comparable to missiles
He got Erelevant speed he is that fast Can argue Erelevant to immesurable speed he that fast akuma was trapped in a void with emptiness outside of space and time and he brake out of it
Dafuk are you even saying
@@jonasfadi8213 am saying akuma is outerversal in the comics he is consider transcendental and has to do with the heavens and spiritrual and to make it more frightening for akuma it has stated him to be the power of the universe itself also czcams.com/video/Z1EMlfNb6KMh/video.htmlttps://czcams.com/video/PLsV5WjW8PA/video.html also akuma one punch kage and kage alone is outerversal i dont even need the comics to prove akuma is outerversal cuz he in street fighter 5 one punch kage who is literally the embodiment of the satsui no hado embodiment meaning a abstract concept or a manifestation of a concept or a physical form or formless and akuma one punch kage that alone is outerversal in attack potency cuz akuma emnodies dualities like kage and kage itself embodies dualites like the satsui no hado akuma uses on people which is his power people like you all dont know much about akuma the reason i said that is because akuma fighting beings like Gil who is literally a metaphysical lemme repeat this again Gil is stated to be a metaphysical also there is arguments with akuma vs kage consider being high outerversal hear is why akuma said that kage is nothing but a shadow so he mocks kage and stated he is nothing so by akuma logic outerversal beings like kage who is only a shadow is nothing to him and imagine akuma one punching shadows so imagine flesh and bones vs shadows flesh and bones is nothing to akuma so that means akuma is in a diffrent level of power he can even match bision who got negative ki and that same bison ki can match Gil who can erase hate and love and all of creation on a conceptrual level thats how insane akuma is and akuma even stated death itself is beneath him
Heihachi is the steongest mishima. Jin and kazuya can become devils but in their basic forms they dont stand a chance against heihachi
They already defeat Heihachi while human.
Jin defeated Heihachi and Kazuya back to back. Etc.
Not everyone knows akuma is outerversal in the comics he faught against jedah who can move outside of space and time akuma was trapped in a void of outside of space and time he even goes beyond the boundaries of reality itself so i let you know how powerful akuma is he faught jedah
Yo umm AKUMa is universal + to multiversal plus to outerversal itself in the comics he is canon so ye heiachi is his level
Akuma was in hell not even hell can equal his power he was in heaven not even heaven itself can hold a candel to his power and the heavens it have angels who high outer to even higher thats how akuma level is his power is alot of spiritual tiers has to do with the heavens itself