The Truth About the Manson Family Could Be On the Tex Watson Tapes

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  • čas přidán 15. 04. 2020
  • Taken from JRE #1459 w/Tom O’Neill: • Video

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  • @jamesfreeman7954
    @jamesfreeman7954 Před 4 lety +1076

    The fact that even after Manson's death and LA still refuses to release the tapes, citing the tape contain information we already know, to me sounds suspect.

    • @rosskstar
      @rosskstar Před 4 lety +25

      @Anonymous Anonymous Well there you go...This is satan's system; soon to be turned on it's head; or actually as i type. Seek Jehovah all you meek ones of the earth - jworg

    • @boomchakalaka1976
      @boomchakalaka1976 Před 3 lety +30

      @@rosskstar ain't no one wana seek no Jehovah lame shit who tf no one even likes that dumbass religion.

    • @andrewmesch540
      @andrewmesch540 Před 3 lety +75

      Anonymous Anonymous please guy. No one is out to get blacks. Only people out to get blacks are other blacks

    • @rosskstar
      @rosskstar Před 3 lety +21

      @@andrewmesch540 Things you'll never hear a black person say?

    • @johndavis-xh1ux
      @johndavis-xh1ux Před 3 lety +8

      @@rosskstar lol ahole

  • @stock9348
    @stock9348 Před 4 lety +1395

    Why do we have the freedom of information act if we never get the information?? Same applies to the columbine tapes

    • @gchong506
      @gchong506 Před 4 lety +224

      Freedom of information is for their benefit not ours. We only know what they want us to know

    • @hugoking9778
      @hugoking9778 Před 4 lety +40

      It's there for the taking. The loopholes they're going to make you go through now that's another question

    • @idab6864
      @idab6864 Před 4 lety +31

      What about Columbine?

    • @jimmyrussel5606
      @jimmyrussel5606 Před 4 lety +54

      me me the tapes that she Columbine guys had made before the shooting, aka “The Basement Tapes”.

    • @idab6864
      @idab6864 Před 4 lety +6

      @@jimmyrussel5606 I didn't know those existed. Can you link to them?

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele1 Před rokem +97

    Tex Watson can never pretend to be "reformed", whilst hiding those tapes, knowing that it shows how bad he truly was.

    • @user-km2br8uc8d
      @user-km2br8uc8d Před měsícem +1

      He can pretend all he wants...no one's gonna buy it. He's the epitome of a broken toy.

  • @elliemccarthy3487
    @elliemccarthy3487 Před 3 lety +57

    These tapes need to be heard

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 Před 2 lety +3

      They have be the truth, Tex wouldn't lie huh?

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety +3

      They will NEVER release those tapes. Maybe in a hundred years.

    • @Adept179
      @Adept179 Před rokem +1

      The DAs office most likely destroyed those tapes as soon as they got their hands on them. There's now blank cassettes in a safe. We will never know.

    • @iuliannicola5715
      @iuliannicola5715 Před rokem +2

      Maybe AFTER Tex dies...

    • @theblakex
      @theblakex Před rokem +2

      @@stevem2323 Not for 20 hours straight. And why would he lie about killing MORE people? He was only hurting himself by recording those tapes in the first place

  • @billymoore8611
    @billymoore8611 Před rokem +12

    Sad commentary for our own govt. Proving how crooked this govt. Really is

  • @dankestranch8738
    @dankestranch8738 Před 4 lety +675

    Joe, this was one hell of a podcast. Appreciate you for sharing this with us!

  • @JCLADOG
    @JCLADOG Před 2 lety +101

    If the tapes corroborated Bugliosi official narrative, they would have been released. The fact they work so hard NOT to release them should be concerning.

    • @johnhughes5083
      @johnhughes5083 Před 2 lety

      I wouldn’t believe anything bugliosi says! This is a man who actually believes the Warren report!

    • @johnhughes5083
      @johnhughes5083 Před 2 lety +15

      Bugliosi loves the sound of his own voice and does not like anybody else having one!

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety +6

      CORRECT.

  • @Moriningland
    @Moriningland Před 3 lety +179

    I think Tex is a true and cunning psychopath. The fact that he wants to get out of prison to cash in as a televangelist is very telling

    • @Raptorman0909
      @Raptorman0909 Před 2 lety +3

      A substantial percentage of televangelists are psychopaths -- to do what they do to there followers, to demand the poor fork over everything they have so they can get that new Gulfstream G700, points to a mind that has no compassion.

    • @JCLADOG
      @JCLADOG Před 2 lety +23

      I'm not sure which career path does more harm

    • @Raptorman0909
      @Raptorman0909 Před 2 lety

      @@JCLADOG -- Well a psychopathic serial killer does more harm at the individual level, but a psychopathic televangelist does more harm to a greater number of people so on balance the televangelists are actually worse. Is there any doubt, any doubt at all, that Kenneth Copeland is a psychopath? And, he's one of many!

    • @jensandersen7011
      @jensandersen7011 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/sK_v9s95inc/video.html

    • @mariaevans5793
      @mariaevans5793 Před rokem +4

      @@JCLADOG well said !!!!🤗🇬🇧

  • @Squash101
    @Squash101 Před 4 lety +495

    Really a crummy thing to do by not releasing those tapes. LAPD should be really ashamed. There could be so many other unsolved mystery's in that tape that would give families some type of closure as to what happened to there loved ones. Not to mention we would actually be able to get some real closure on why a poor innocent lady who was 8 1/2 pregnant was slain as she cried out for her mother. She begged for the life of her unborn child. I think the people should know what kind of evil motives were behind all this and I dont think Charles Manson is the only answer.

    • @Squash101
      @Squash101 Před 4 lety +67

      @norman bates Other than saving there state prosecutors (buliousi) ass or some Hollywood elites (Polanski) I dont see a real reason.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin Před 4 lety +15

      Why would Tex Watson be any more reliable than the others?

    • @Squash101
      @Squash101 Před 4 lety +41

      CorbCorbin well depending on the theory that you believe in, you can maybe conclude that he was in fact under some type of hypnosis. Either by Manson or the CIA. You could even try to see where the story doesn’t add up which could lead to a better understanding. Not to mention he probably was very scared shitless and he confessed everything to someone he’s trusted since childhood.

    • @fvm0usgamer691
      @fvm0usgamer691 Před 4 lety +19

      @@CorbCorbin he said he was talking to his lawyer in the tapes so why lie when u have confidentiality ?

    • @faukify
      @faukify Před 4 lety +7

      norman bates 🤣😂 have you never seen anything on the lapd?

  • @MatewanMassacre
    @MatewanMassacre Před 7 měsíci +5

    Tex Watson was the actual killer, the person who murdered Sharon Tate, her unborn child, and the others. Yet, Charles Manson, who killed no one, was the primary defendant.
    This never made any sense.

  • @hatednyc
    @hatednyc Před 4 lety +149

    Dude I wholeheartedly believe there are dozens of runaways that went missing during the flower power hour that can attributed not only to Manson's maliciousness and jealousies but also to Tex's Psycopathy. There are many graves on both Spahn Ranch and the outlying desert that ah never be uncovered.

    • @mattbrown5921
      @mattbrown5921 Před 4 lety +6

      I want to go and do depth scans of the grounds around the ranch, of something was buried their it would show up on the scans

    • @gchong506
      @gchong506 Před 4 lety +6

      They found several remains located around the area back in 2007-2008

    • @mattbrown5921
      @mattbrown5921 Před 4 lety +3

      @@gchong506 i see that they dug but i dont see any confirmation that bodies were discovered

    • @gchong506
      @gchong506 Před 4 lety +6

      @@mattbrown5921 don't quote me on this because I'm using my memory from watching the news back then but I do recall them saying something about finding a human bone because I remember saying watch them try to blame every thing they find on Manson

    • @Daddy53751
      @Daddy53751 Před 4 lety +5

      I think barker ranch would be an even better bet.

  • @Spazass666
    @Spazass666 Před 3 lety +17

    I have to admire this guys persistence.

  • @BD-xn2dp
    @BD-xn2dp Před 4 lety +577

    I'm the devil and I'm here to do the devils business....
    ...nah it was dumber than that.

    • @coldfito
      @coldfito Před 4 lety +45

      And you were riding on a horsey!...lol

    • @peterpiper47
      @peterpiper47 Před 4 lety +15

      Are you real?

    • @camxdidxthat
      @camxdidxthat Před 4 lety +14

      "The devil is not welcome in heawwwwww."

    • @johnv6806
      @johnv6806 Před 4 lety +5

      @Ninja Lover So THATS how that marilyn Manson song got named!

    • @johnv6806
      @johnv6806 Před 4 lety +2

      @Ninja Lover nah wasnt really in my area

  • @dragon-id5uj
    @dragon-id5uj Před 3 lety +98

    this is horrendous. NOW i suddenly understand MR ROGAN you are far more than entertainment but also a safe platform for whistleblowers. my appreciation for your work is so constantly shifting, thank you for your work

    • @f7serrano17
      @f7serrano17 Před 2 lety +5

      Really? What about actual evidence and not hearsay! Smh

    • @LT-lr4qe
      @LT-lr4qe Před 2 lety +3

      Thats a dumb comment lol

    • @joshmitch6907
      @joshmitch6907 Před 2 lety

      Whistleblowers? How is this guy a whistleblower he's literally just a journalist reporting on a criminal case? U r dum

    • @chilliLRK
      @chilliLRK Před 2 lety +3

      This dude is not a whistleblower lmao

    • @skippersnacks
      @skippersnacks Před rokem

      The "truth" of mk ultra has been out for a while. It is possible CM was involved in some kind of training/ testing. There's no proof though. It sure does make a great story. Dave Mcgowan wrote a book Programmed to Kill, as well as others that get into what was happening back then in his Laurel Canyon book, and what continues happen now. He's the OG of all this.

  • @RhythmBulzara
    @RhythmBulzara Před 3 lety +207

    I truly believe that Tex killed people before the Tate murders. There is no way he never killed anyone, and then one day Charles orders them to the Tate home to kill everyone in there, and then he slaughters everyone like a pro and like it was just a walk in the park. He was obviously experienced.

    • @coathangermidwife
      @coathangermidwife Před 2 lety +24

      Nothing pro about them murders

    • @RhythmBulzara
      @RhythmBulzara Před 2 lety +37

      @@coathangermidwife maybe that wasn't the right term but hopefully you understand what I mean.

    • @tammybrown4901
      @tammybrown4901 Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly I always thought the same thing to.

    • @coathangermidwife
      @coathangermidwife Před 2 lety +9

      @Hi Ho they were sloppy, far from a seasoned killer. Messy horrible murders.

    • @coathangermidwife
      @coathangermidwife Před 2 lety +2

      @Hi Ho didnt i add something productive by clearly giving my opinion that tex was far from a seasoned killer. Which you can see from the way things went down.

  • @davidusa47
    @davidusa47 Před 4 lety +136

    This was the most interesting JRE episode in a long long time.

  • @benjaminsmith3151
    @benjaminsmith3151 Před 2 lety +117

    I just finished reading the book. It's great, but at the end the only thing I'm sure of is that everyone he talks to is hiding something scarier than the murders.

    • @ryangettig274
      @ryangettig274 Před 2 lety +9

      Spot On Correct.:)

    • @blackjack2770
      @blackjack2770 Před 2 lety +6

      Listen to John Todd on the Sharon Tate murder. He was a high up into witchcraft and said that she wanted out of the occult bc she didn’t want her new born baby to be a part of that at all and they couldn’t have that. The only way you can get out of the occult or witchcraft is through the blood of Jesus Christ. So her husband went to Europe to have the perfect alibi but he thought she would be alone. They hired and paid Charles Manson to carry out the murders promising him 50 thousand dollars for it. By the time the money got to him after going down through all the other satanists, he only got 2 grand for it lol. Sharon Tate was sacrificed and had to be killed bc the only way out is either through Jesus Christ or through death. Her movies prove that she was a part of the Illuminati and Roman Polanski was very heavy into the occult as well. He could give two shits what happened to her. He’s just as sick as the Manson family is.

    • @CallMeKichael
      @CallMeKichael Před 2 lety

      @@blackjack2770 Nice schizo post.
      Go back to Reddit with that horse shit.

    • @smileygladhands
      @smileygladhands Před 2 lety +1

      Have any thoughts on what?

    • @benjaminsmith3151
      @benjaminsmith3151 Před 2 lety +8

      @@smileygladhands I would only be guessing, but it struck me as strange that the shiftiest people the author encountered were the prosecutor and that record executive guy. There was a recent movie showing the corrupt connections between the LAPD and music people also. I'm not a rap fan, but it was one of those famous dead rapper shootings that led to a huge drug operation using cops as hitmen. I know it's a stretch, but maybe Charlie was right in the middle of what evolved into the known CIA involvement in the crack epidemic. LA is tough to figure out because the organized crime there didn't involve the Italian mafia so much.

  • @alansilverman8500
    @alansilverman8500 Před 4 lety +84

    How about investigating the death of that defense attorney during the trial? There's no way that was an accident! Maybe that could be a backdoor to hearing the tapes?

    • @bostonmadrassa656
      @bostonmadrassa656 Před 2 lety +4

      I covered the trial as a freelance cub journalist. There was speculation that an insanity defense would be utilized. Never happened

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      The death of Ronald Huges has nothing to do with getting those tapes smh.

  • @j.mccullough2061
    @j.mccullough2061 Před 3 lety +5

    You have a great show. Thank you for doing it.

  • @allsystemsgo8678
    @allsystemsgo8678 Před 2 lety +61

    Amazing that he's not nearly as infamous as Manson or the three idiot women. Tex Watson commited by far and the way most of the damage/violence in all of these murders.

    • @tedwojtasik8781
      @tedwojtasik8781 Před 9 měsíci

      Tex actually did ALL of the killings, the girls held and subdued some of the victims and engaged in torture, but all of the actual killing was done exclusively by Tex.

    • @EnliveningJustice
      @EnliveningJustice Před 7 měsíci +1

      yea, idiot Watson should have his lunacy crown; the teachers' pet of the c👁️a. More infamous than idiot Manson who was also an infamous 'student'. How dare those women steal the spotlight.

    • @imtheitchyouneedtoscratch
      @imtheitchyouneedtoscratch Před 2 měsíci

      Plus Tex Watson was never charged for the murder of Donald ' Shorty ' Shea either 🤦🤦🤦🤦😳

  • @manuellujan666
    @manuellujan666 Před 4 lety +300

    Where is Eddie when you need him.

    • @wolfman8325
      @wolfman8325 Před 4 lety +32

      The edge of the Earth

    • @thebatman4392
      @thebatman4392 Před 4 lety +13

      He would be going insane and screaming and shouting bad idea wouldn’t even be able to talk to the guest

    • @DANINSKYWOW
      @DANINSKYWOW Před 4 lety +14

      He's looking into it!

    • @fattony123082
      @fattony123082 Před 4 lety +1

      Manuel Lujan : Eddie is prank calling Alex Jones and vice versa. Lmao

    • @JudoMateo
      @JudoMateo Před 4 lety +3

      Manuel Lujan Balls deep into something you’ve never heard of.

  • @earthangelintuition1693
    @earthangelintuition1693 Před 3 lety +21

    i just wish i could hear those tapes man

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      Why do you need to wish to hear them? Just use your supernatural powers to know what's on them. *rolling my eyes*

  • @monicaturk8001
    @monicaturk8001 Před 3 lety +25

    These sensational events are never what they seem

  • @lougaru2445
    @lougaru2445 Před 2 lety +1

    One of the best JRE's ever

  • @gc6888
    @gc6888 Před 4 lety +119

    Shocking how many people still believe the government

    • @picassoboy52
      @picassoboy52 Před 2 lety +3

      Beats believing you. You give zero reasons to back up your comment. Go home n give your thought process a vitamin

    • @nicktwk
      @nicktwk Před 2 lety +9

      @@picassoboy52 All it takes is a brain and a little bit of critical thinking to realize how corrupt our government is.

    • @yomomsahoe5797
      @yomomsahoe5797 Před 2 lety +15

      @@picassoboy52 what world do you live in my guy

    • @TNord.
      @TNord. Před 2 lety

      DTA. Don't trust anyone. Rocky said it in the movie. Good advice. And yes the government has reasons to hide truth, sometimes for nefarious reasons, and sometimes for "national interest". I try to watch out for people trying to get me to join any side, cause they often have their own political reasons. We're getting played by the left and the right. The one-two sucker punch. Distract. Divide. Conquer.

    • @Taiyou536
      @Taiyou536 Před 2 lety +2

      george Carlin once said : First rule - don't believe what the government tells you !

  • @thepatsyfamily
    @thepatsyfamily Před 4 lety +426

    If I've learned anything from watching The Innocence Files, the L.A. police department is 100% honest. /s

    • @ghengisdong6714
      @ghengisdong6714 Před 3 lety +4

      #nightstalker

    • @shezarae8827
      @shezarae8827 Před 3 lety +4

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @paulthepotplanter5059
      @paulthepotplanter5059 Před 3 lety +25

      LA PD hasn't been the cleanest department in the country but i give em props for working on those streets. Bloods & crips, seedy dark alleys. Not knowing if you are making it home alivr

    • @smith2781
      @smith2781 Před 3 lety +21

      😂🤣 yes and their officers are the friendliest and most understanding. If Rodney King is how they deal with traffic stops I would hate to see how they deal with real crooks.

    • @checkcall123
      @checkcall123 Před 3 lety +4

      @@smith2781 are you dumb?

  • @leapyear9460
    @leapyear9460 Před 4 lety +16

    Toms laugh/giggle at 4:30 is nothing short of a day maker. Thanks JoeRogan for doing your thing.

    • @CsaVage90
      @CsaVage90 Před 4 lety +2

      Leap Year I’m crying from laughing so hard. Thank you for further serving your CZcams community by pointing it out. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @johnk.4018
    @johnk.4018 Před 2 lety +13

    Highly recommend Tom's book. Incredible investigative journalism and a mind blowing journey. Great read!

  • @jaymilan215
    @jaymilan215 Před rokem +7

    Wow the manson murders rabbit hole goes deeper than we all expected!

  • @lotstodo
    @lotstodo Před rokem +15

    They found a body off of Mulholland back in the day with like 150 stab wounds, a missing teen. I'm guessing the family had done things like this because of the speed leading to rage overkill.

    • @happycappy-jn6jc
      @happycappy-jn6jc Před 11 měsíci +3

      There was more than one found

    • @imtheitchyouneedtoscratch
      @imtheitchyouneedtoscratch Před 2 měsíci +2

      Reet Jurvetson and was found with 157 stab wounds 😳🤦😡💔😪

    • @lotstodo
      @lotstodo Před 2 měsíci

      @imtheitchyouneedtoscratch I remember a show, not sure which one, where a guy used a counter and another guy stabbed a dummy and it was mind blowing how hard it would be to stab that many times.

  • @mrb4886
    @mrb4886 Před 3 lety +3

    Buy this book. Tom kicks ass and really dug deep. Great read. Please do it.!!

  • @TBlanktim
    @TBlanktim Před rokem +9

    I went to a parochial high school whose principal was a Catholic priest. He was the chaplain in Vacaville Prison before that while Manson was there. Manson knew how to manipulate the system and used his time for "counseling" with the priest to stay out of his cell as long as he could. This priest audio recorded all of these talks with that maniac. I have heard a few very small excerpts from those tapes. Manson wasn't a dummy, but he was a sociopath obviously. They would discuss/argue dogma for as long was allowed. Point being those recordings did not fall under any attorney/client privilege. The priest has since passed but those tapes are somewhere.

    • @EnliveningJustice
      @EnliveningJustice Před 7 měsíci

      I'm amazed some1 hasn't tried to make $ off of them.
      Awesome, thank you for sharing your story.

  • @joekhatib3798
    @joekhatib3798 Před 2 lety +16

    If the CIA is involved there is no way in Hell you will ever get access to those tapes!!! 🤭

    • @leoross5777
      @leoross5777 Před rokem

      the fact that they were never released is all the proof you need that those shitbags were involved

  • @ThisisStephennn
    @ThisisStephennn Před 4 lety +15

    This is an incredible podcast!

  • @dlcc4dlng
    @dlcc4dlng Před 2 lety +25

    If we start violating attorney-client privilege then we worsen the chances of a fair trial. Tex watson’s attorney does not want the tapes made public because there were 3 aspects of Sharon Tate’s murder that could add torture to Tex’s charges. 1. The slash across her face to “make her be quiet” 2. The stab wound in the back of the thigh to keep her from kicking at Tex. And 3. That she was hung while being stabbed. If torture was added to Tex’s charges the only 2 outcomes was life without parole and death. Boyd was a smart man and his plan was to get Tex sentence reduced and hospitalized instead of in prison

    • @richardfabrizio8998
      @richardfabrizio8998 Před 2 lety

      Yeah good point never thought about that. She was hung up first then stabbed

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety +4

      NOPE.

    • @David-sl6xf
      @David-sl6xf Před rokem +6

      That logic doesn't apply to the LAPD though. Why won't they release the tapes? If the tapes corroborate or at least mostly corroborate the official narrative at the trial then they would have incentive to release it to the public. They could refute accusations of wrong doing by O'Neil or whoever else, but instead they still refuse to let them go.

    • @dlcc4dlng
      @dlcc4dlng Před rokem

      @@David-sl6xf Tex’s lawyer is the owner of the so-called Tex tapes, not the LAPD.

    • @helpyourcattodrive
      @helpyourcattodrive Před rokem +1

      Exactly! They did it and bugliosi proved it. This is irrelevant amd immaterial.

  • @cherylb2008
    @cherylb2008 Před 3 lety +8

    Whether the truth is there or not why would they keep it hidden after all these years

    • @Taiyou536
      @Taiyou536 Před 2 lety

      They will lose credibility - and it would come out that Charlie was a scapegoat and used to make money !

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety +1

      For the same reasons they created this false narrative, made Manson a Patsy and covered up the truth.

  • @oldfriend2317
    @oldfriend2317 Před 4 lety +158

    Luv that they gotta kick out of the lawyer dropping dead on his treadmill.

    • @bravemise
      @bravemise Před 4 lety +13

      Old friend well lawyers are scum

    • @TnnssRllr
      @TnnssRllr Před 3 lety +2

      They laughed pretty hard huh

    • @cathyg6811
      @cathyg6811 Před 2 lety +4

      @@bravemise haha until you need one, right?

  • @evanschroeder8411
    @evanschroeder8411 Před 4 lety +236

    There was Dallas, from Phoenix; Cleveland - he was from Detroit; and Tex... well, I don't remember where Tex come from

  • @kathleendobens6648
    @kathleendobens6648 Před 2 lety +1

    I love your show very informative!!!

  • @johnh6725
    @johnh6725 Před 3 lety +12

    Man anything interesting that’s ever happened ever will show up on JRE. Thanks for all the knowledge!

  • @petereinert7581
    @petereinert7581 Před 4 lety +27

    OMG, it's Milton from Office Space. Just kidding, don't hurt me Joe.

    • @suprcrzy
      @suprcrzy Před 3 lety

      ....could burn the building down...

  • @susanalexander6721
    @susanalexander6721 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Watson is a monster. Have saved to my like list, will always keep it, Sharon Tate's Mother speaking directly to Watson at a parole hearing. She eloquently tore him apart. RIP Mrs. Tate.

  • @niteriderband4713
    @niteriderband4713 Před rokem +8

    Its obvious why those tapes are not being released because the authorities dont want any of the Mansion killers to get released. I dont blame them.

    • @SimonDelaney1974
      @SimonDelaney1974 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Well one just was released so there goes that theory.

  • @SwoopGD
    @SwoopGD Před 3 lety +26

    The Dr. Jolly West rabbit hole might be the deepest and most interesting dive ever I've ever experienced on the internet.

  • @paulyarrow9857
    @paulyarrow9857 Před 2 lety +59

    All these years Manson was played the blame for those murders.
    Tex Watson was the real person who perpetrated those murders with his own hands

    • @TruthDissident
      @TruthDissident Před 2 lety +22

      To discredit Manson's role in those murders is dumb.

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      @@TruthDissident Naa you are.

    • @andrewrobert5019
      @andrewrobert5019 Před rokem +5

      @@HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM wow. profound lol

    • @freddiegrace3770
      @freddiegrace3770 Před rokem +8

      I think Tex would have killed without Manson eventually, but it Manson's fault they chose to kill the people they did.

  • @ashleyonix4622
    @ashleyonix4622 Před 4 lety +47

    This guy needs more recognition

    • @nottadumbass7518
      @nottadumbass7518 Před 2 lety +3

      For what? He just speculates

    • @morganbanefort181
      @morganbanefort181 Před 2 lety +3

      @@nottadumbass7518 read the book

    • @andrewrobert5019
      @andrewrobert5019 Před rokem

      @@nottadumbass7518 yup.... finally a comment i can agree with here

    • @David-sl6xf
      @David-sl6xf Před rokem +3

      @@nottadumbass7518 That's the exact opposite of what he does. In his book he lays out all of the facts and evidence he uncovers without speculating on what he can't prove.

  • @sandymhancock
    @sandymhancock Před 2 lety +1

    Can you number the video segments so it's easier to file the flow of the discussion?

  • @masterblaster5705
    @masterblaster5705 Před 3 lety +12

    Everybody and go buy this guy's book. I just finished it myself. Do your part to support a True American Hero!

  • @justineharper3346
    @justineharper3346 Před 3 lety +44

    Woah. I’m dying to know what’s on those tapes that they won’t release them

    • @Gawdzillest
      @Gawdzillest Před 3 lety +4

      Probably the truth

    • @TheRandomVaper
      @TheRandomVaper Před 2 lety +4

      Im sure its because they convicted someone else of a murder/murders that the manson family actually claimed responsibility for. They would rather let that person rot in jail than have to pay them for the years they spend in prison.

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      @@TheRandomVaper I'm sure you are completely wrong and way off base lmao.

  • @djjdantenucci
    @djjdantenucci Před 4 lety +116

    Tex never had the makings of a varsity athlete

  • @fci1
    @fci1 Před 4 lety +75

    Tex and susan watkins were by far the most brutal of the group. They were both fuelled by amphetamine, a drug manson was known to have hated and had refused to allow anyone on the ranch to use.

    • @SekhmetSecretWeapon
      @SekhmetSecretWeapon Před 2 lety +4

      interesting!!!

    • @arlenemelson8731
      @arlenemelson8731 Před 2 lety +19

      Meth , high usage , no sleep , will make u hear things and hallucinate, Basically a working zombie WITH NO FEELING OR COMPASSION

    • @marioalberto34844
      @marioalberto34844 Před rokem

      All the drugs that the government created

    • @EastSide-qc5oy
      @EastSide-qc5oy Před rokem +9

      Her name was Susan Atkins not Watkins and you seem to be unaware of two things in your description of who was “most brutal”: The question/controversy over whether or not Susan actually stabbed Tate (she very well may have not), AND the actions of Patricia Krenwinkel on both nights. I say all this not at all as a defense of Atkins, who was awful. It’s more about, maybe who gets defined as “most brutal” shouldn’t be determined by people who don’t know the case all that well. And my point is not to come at you personally but I bring it up because these comments are littered with people who talk as though they know the case but are clearly going by incomplete or even false information.

    • @chucklowery2314
      @chucklowery2314 Před rokem

      @@arlenemelson8731 I like it

  • @mistychenoweth9716
    @mistychenoweth9716 Před rokem +3

    Who can believe anything the murderers say? They were all trying to cover their assess.

  • @AmySorrellMusic
    @AmySorrellMusic Před 3 lety +20

    I read this man's book, CHAOS. I plan to read it again. It was absolutely riveting. I highly recommend it.

  • @bigbeartanner
    @bigbeartanner Před 4 lety +25

    Release the tapes

  • @frame-perfectadskip9159
    @frame-perfectadskip9159 Před 3 lety +4

    "He died later on the treadmill"
    "Probably thinking about you"
    Joe: Savages
    Yoel Romero: Savages

  • @thewordofgord
    @thewordofgord Před 3 lety +13

    Thanks to Joe R. for giving this author's research more publicity. I have read his book and it is required reading in the "intellience agencies dirty tricks" field. Although this interview is very revealing, no question.

    • @orange22ify
      @orange22ify Před 2 lety

      More paplum for conspiracy believing bro's

  • @stevenjohnson2273
    @stevenjohnson2273 Před 3 lety +5

    Where can I find this whole interview?

  • @itsmemckee2110
    @itsmemckee2110 Před 3 lety +10

    Makes you wonder what really whats being hidden.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před 3 lety +1

      Lt Col Paul Tate, her was was Military intelligence is probably a major factor
      czcams.com/play/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV.html

    • @ollihp
      @ollihp Před 3 lety

      @@whatabouttheearth And ACIO Maj. Peter Folger, Abigail’s father.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před 3 lety

      @@ollihp
      ACIO?
      Do you mean ASIO? Australian Intelligence?
      Who is Abigail, sorry I dont know too much about this case

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před 3 lety

      @@ollihp
      I cant find a good source that Maj. Peter Folger was intelligence, and Major isnt that high of an officer rank neccesarily, I think that his status as being a Folger heir is obviously striking but we already knew all those folks were filthy rich.
      I think in terms of possible alterior motive when the main stream story seems to have major inconsistencies in the stated motive.

    • @ollihp
      @ollihp Před 3 lety

      @@whatabouttheearth If you're a newbie, best place to start is w/ Miles Mathis' breakdown of the 1969 psyop. As for maj. Folger & col. Tate, there's lots of non mainstream data & links on this site; cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/thread/11223/charles-manson-murders-faked

  • @edcolby53
    @edcolby53 Před 2 lety +4

    I wish i could listen to those 20 hours of tape.

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      I wish you go skipping down the yellow brick road to Oz and ask the Wizard for a CLUE.

    • @edcolby53
      @edcolby53 Před 2 lety +1

      @@HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM what the fuck? Lol

  • @CDubzWhat
    @CDubzWhat Před 2 lety

    LMFAO i love the Tom O'Neill Episodes. it reminds me of my time spent with my grandma

  • @bradleejones9959
    @bradleejones9959 Před 2 lety +8

    That's what I always thought. The murders were so grievous that they couldn't have been done by first timers. Drugs or no drugs.

  • @GraveTalkswithShannonScott

    Love the book CHAOS!

  • @1966ldm
    @1966ldm Před měsícem

    Why is the full interview unavailable?! We only get edited clips now?! BS!

  • @biscuitgidoni2804
    @biscuitgidoni2804 Před 3 lety +1

    Man I was hoping I would hear the tapes

  • @kpaxil4516
    @kpaxil4516 Před 3 lety +16

    This was a great broadcast Also still in my mind wondering why they won't release those tapes??!!! My God they release pictures of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Perlman's horrifying death photos which was the most horrendously excruciating thing I think I've ever seen And I'm still wondering why they even showed those photos but yet they won't release these tapes! It almost makes me feel like they want to perpetuate Charles Manson to keep making money off of this horrific crime for as long as they can... unless anyone else has a alternative view please I would love to hear it I just don't get it anymore

    • @shable1436
      @shable1436 Před 3 lety +8

      Its not about perpetuating manson or money, its about plausible deniability, lots of bs stays covered up because the real truth doesn't fit the American value or legal system we have drilled in your head, the military is the worst about secrets, and lies. If the public found out what really happens then ppl still alive and in power would be removed or even prosecuted and imprisoned, those are called powers that be, as long as there are positions of power there will be corruption

    • @DavidWilliams-so2dy
      @DavidWilliams-so2dy Před 2 lety +7

      I didn’t know Ron Perlman was involved.

    • @kpaxil4516
      @kpaxil4516 Před 2 lety +5

      @@DavidWilliams-so2dy omG🤦🏼‍♀️ I'M SO EMBARRASSED- GOLDMAN RON GOLDMAN 🙇‍♀️ Thank you for pointing that out, my bad and also my very bad I hate this talk to text thing sometimes I forget to look back on what I wrote to see and make sure everything came out how I meant it but I did get a laugh out of that 👍😂

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      It's not to make money from people believing the HS Bullshit, it's to keep the truth from being known and prevent Manson being exonerated and the whole conspiracy being exposed.

    • @jesser73
      @jesser73 Před 2 lety

      the tapes will not be released, anything obtained through the freedom of information act that mentions anything going above local government and law enforcement officials is redacted.i think the main precursors leading up to the murders , involved Manson constantly being released after either committing a crime or violating parole.there was immense cultural and social movements happening that the government looked upon as " threats" ie ; black panthers , hippies , student union movements that all were I guess " extreme" to some degree in terms of shaking America's foundations for change in a liberal sense.all the government did was throw all these in conjunction with communism, giving them, especially agencies like the CIA, an excuse to to create programs and operate within community's and institutions.the tate murders just imo, we're a tragedy indirectly linked to allll this shit through mansons reality and perceptions.

  • @zachyhex1996
    @zachyhex1996 Před 4 lety +4

    Would be awesome to look back into this!

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 4 lety +1

      @Von Dutch my man, should have watched this before the clips.

  • @mineralt
    @mineralt Před rokem +1

    Tom’s book is great….what a labor of love

  • @eklypised
    @eklypised Před 4 lety +217

    Tex was the craziest one of um all

    • @MarkRoss-er4yq
      @MarkRoss-er4yq Před 4 lety +19

      I disagree. Yes, he certainly was in the top 5 crazies, but I think the most insane ones out of the family were obviously Manson and Steve “Clem” Grogan

    • @seanj6333
      @seanj6333 Před 4 lety +7

      Is** dudes still alive

    • @JamesOsyris
      @JamesOsyris Před 4 lety +26

      MarkRoss 9696 Manson is brilliant. He speaks in metaphors. He’s not crazy, he is a zen Buddhist in disguise

    • @GerardPerry
      @GerardPerry Před 4 lety +34

      @@JamesOsyris Buddhists are not brilliant.

    • @jumpingeezus5080
      @jumpingeezus5080 Před 4 lety +6

      Pik Osyris
      Well. He's dead.

  • @donniedoesdishes
    @donniedoesdishes Před 4 lety +15

    why not just go to watson and interview him without ever mentioning the tapes

    • @TexWatson-sh8vf
      @TexWatson-sh8vf Před 3 lety +1

      Because there is still a very small chance parole can be made.
      If the truth be told about everything there would be zero chance of parole.
      If the truth be told about everything there would be new charges and possibly a trip back to death row.

    • @jonathan_huerta
      @jonathan_huerta Před 3 lety +3

      You think CIA would allow those interviews to happen? Hell no. He'd get Epstein'ed before they took place.

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      bECAUSE WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT'S ON THE TAPES??

  • @gabepierce6684
    @gabepierce6684 Před 3 lety +16

    My mom sent a letter to manson in 1996 in middle school asking why he killed sharon tate and jay sebring and everyone else and he sent back a letter so horrible the teacher wouldnt let her read it!

    • @gabepierce6684
      @gabepierce6684 Před 3 lety +1

      @Marky Darky well no one can screw off😊

    • @Andromeda1741
      @Andromeda1741 Před 2 lety +5

      It may not have been from Charlie. He had friends that would look through his mail first and give Charlie the "good ones" , and sometimes his other friends would answer when Charlie never even saw the letter. Also, his mail was most likely stolen many times and you never know what kind of nut wrote that letter. Charlie liked kids and I find it very hard to believe that he would speak to a child that way

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety +1

      Good she deserved it.

  • @MultiSmartass1
    @MultiSmartass1 Před 4 lety +45

    If the authorities in LA have these tapes that O neil discusses here, forget it. It's likely gone.
    If it isn't, the only way anyone will hear it is if someone leaks it.

    • @MultiSmartass1
      @MultiSmartass1 Před 4 lety +3

      @Mr P Your comparison doesn't change the facts . These tapes are likeky gone and even if there copies, unlikely to surface.

    • @gchong506
      @gchong506 Před 4 lety +3

      I can say I have a tape of OJ killing Nicole that doesn't mean I do. To many conspiracy theories about this. If you dig long enough you will find something that you can twist to fit whatever narrative you want. What ever happened to being crazy? Everyone wants to feel important and like they know what everyone else doesn't.

    • @MultiSmartass1
      @MultiSmartass1 Před 4 lety

      @@gchong506 I think the problem here is that there may be a tape or two but it's largely talk unless something material and substantive can be shown to support it.
      Conspiracy culture is certainly a subculture that has consumed America and that's a problem because it is not based on real skepticism but posing as a skeptic, not using doubt but the semblance of doubt.
      So people are going to easily fall for conspiracies because they don't think critically but think they are thinking critically.

    • @gchong506
      @gchong506 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MultiSmartass1 That may be true. However with social media it is a whole new monster. Imagine the stories if social media was around when the Tate murders happened. The more people who pass away that was involved, the more stories and theories will follow because they can't be refuted. Some have merrit and some just B.S from people wanting to be involved.

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      lmmfao that's funny as fuck. Leak "it"??? lmao

  • @janberkemeier7406
    @janberkemeier7406 Před 2 lety +7

    The amount of lowkey Manson apologists/fans in the comments is nothing short of sickening

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      The amount of typical sheep believing a ridiculous concocted pile of impossible lies are the same as always.

  • @zachneeley4474
    @zachneeley4474 Před 4 lety +4

    Anytime a journalist asks you to go on record, do yourself a favor and don’t.

    • @vyhozshu
      @vyhozshu Před 9 měsíci

      dont talk to cops either, get a laywer if you can

  • @codywoodbaby
    @codywoodbaby Před 4 lety +32

    Thumbnail looks like brett farve if hed been cut from the packers 😂

  • @SomeGuyWho759
    @SomeGuyWho759 Před rokem +2

    This would be the first I ever heard of someone doing life in prison for influencing someone else's murder.. 😏🤔

  • @SgtMjr
    @SgtMjr Před 3 lety +9

    Couldn't John Douglas weigh in on this? Douglas also interviewed Watson in prison.

  • @ernesto1391
    @ernesto1391 Před 3 lety +17

    those tapes could possibly reveal that Charlie was a crazy fried outa his mind rockstar wannabe and thats all

  • @markkuman4673
    @markkuman4673 Před 4 lety +11

    Provocative. Hello from Papua New Guinea!

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
    @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před rokem +1

    Fascinating case.

  • @Powerbandm
    @Powerbandm Před 4 lety +7

    Time is a flat circle ⭕️

  • @nikyakubow6437
    @nikyakubow6437 Před 4 lety +29

    RELEASE THE TAPES

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      They already scheduled for release.......the Tuesday immediately following The Second Resurrection of Christ, five days before Wrestlmania 635.

  • @Elizabeth-dw6lc
    @Elizabeth-dw6lc Před rokem +4

    Strange interview. Tex is still alive. Why not just go interview him or correspond with him about the tapes?

    • @nonyabiz550
      @nonyabiz550 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Because he'd already put the kibosh on it. Listen to the video again

    • @TerryCloth
      @TerryCloth Před 9 měsíci

      Since Tex is a very religious man now, wouldn't he want the TRUTH to come out ?

  • @Jim-Mc
    @Jim-Mc Před 4 lety +72

    Tex "real as a donut" Watson.

  • @joruss443
    @joruss443 Před 4 lety +6

    Have a family member who lived at the ranch for a while. He was arrested with Plumlee for robbing and stabbing a dude. Went to prison and became a radiologist haha

  • @davidhailstone7794
    @davidhailstone7794 Před 3 lety

    Where is the full podcast? Suddenly gone.

  • @welcometosemeticpalestine

    Can anyone explain where in Topanga is this spawn ranch. Spent 8 years there and never looked into it. Just curious.

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      It's not in Topanga it's in Chatsworth on the Santa Susanna Pass parallel to RONNIE RAYGUN FREEWAY, it's part of Santa Susanna State Park and al you have to do is google it. smh I am at my desk and I'm 6.5 miles from sitting in the wave cave, wanna come over so I can carry you there on my back? Lazy fuck.

  • @stevekosak8624
    @stevekosak8624 Před 3 lety +33

    Tex went stone crazy!!! He's your buggy man not Charlie👽

  • @chickasawstarrmountain9747

    Manson didn't actually kill anyone but I get why they locked him up, because it would've got alot worse

  • @ryanreynolds3630
    @ryanreynolds3630 Před 2 lety

    I like how the og vid is now private.

  • @TonyOlivieri-hu2iv
    @TonyOlivieri-hu2iv Před 3 měsíci

    "...they won't release the tapes because the truth is on them..." thank you for saying that out loud!!!

  • @mojo457rothko7
    @mojo457rothko7 Před 4 lety +11

    What's the name of the book?

    • @mason.madeit6369
      @mason.madeit6369 Před 4 lety +1

      Mojo457 Rothko it’s called Chaos

    • @hebber1961
      @hebber1961 Před 4 lety +2

      It's called "More conspiracy bullshit".

    • @RossKempOnYourMum01
      @RossKempOnYourMum01 Před 4 lety +3

      Harry Potter and the Prisoner Of Azkaban

    • @gmanzano89gm
      @gmanzano89gm Před 4 lety +1

      @@RossKempOnYourMum01 😅 you made my morning

    • @ModernPlague
      @ModernPlague Před 4 lety +1

      @@hebber1961 - That's probably what you call every book. Why bother thinking about things or considering argumentation based on evidence when you can just automatically dismiss it all as "bullshit", right?

  • @davidhailstone7794
    @davidhailstone7794 Před 3 lety +19

    Release the LAPD case files, FBI case files, CIA files, and the Criminal Justice files on the case, to historians and journalists and others, and let history make the final judgement on this case. Enough of the Bugliosi tale. The US govt liked it, Hollywood loved it, but that is not justice. Justice is truth, the whole truth, and the whole story. True justice for Sharon and the others.
    American justice? Sounds like a good idea.

  • @Sims1986
    @Sims1986 Před 3 lety

    Release The Tapes

  • @pedrotorres2452
    @pedrotorres2452 Před 4 lety +9

    We should all make a big deal about releasing those tapes! If the people band together maybe something can be done, don’t know if it’s the truth it’s one mans version and there are a few out there but still want to hear to judge for myself

  • @CurvyVic
    @CurvyVic Před 4 lety +140

    Rex? - Shoot him Tex! - Tex!!

    • @elderrusty541
      @elderrusty541 Před 4 lety +16

      CurvyVic he said he was the devil, and her was here to do some Devil shit

    • @blacklight4720
      @blacklight4720 Před 4 lety +5

      *signals the dog*

    • @ManFrancisco
      @ManFrancisco Před 4 lety +22

      Is everybody ok? The hippies sure as fuck aren’t

    • @elderrusty541
      @elderrusty541 Před 4 lety

      God that Mike was fucking great

    • @yig_501
      @yig_501 Před 4 lety +2

      Lol the dog food can to face

  • @bretthines1020
    @bretthines1020 Před 2 lety +19

    I read HELTER SKELTER by VB in 9th grade. It was a formative book and led me into a career as an investigator. Given everything involved, by all known angles - natural and supernatural - with the CIA, the Federal prison system, Rosemary’s Baby, Polanski and the Satanist Jay Sebring…and Charlie, it is the Deepest, Darkest Pit one could fall into in American Lore. It’s a story of Despair.

    • @PeriodDrama
      @PeriodDrama Před rokem +6

      Watch the whole interview with this guy and read Chaos, he basically explains how almost everything in helter slelter was total BSz

    • @SusieDaw-ix6pv
      @SusieDaw-ix6pv Před 7 měsíci +1

      My oldest brother, a Vietnam vet, was reading helter shelter, in the mid 70's, while staying with me. He came out of his bedroom, and told me that book shook him. He had to take a break from it for an hour or two. He wasn't a fearful kind of guy. Going on his reaction, I never read it, but I have learned of it's content by other means.

  • @joiekelly3141
    @joiekelly3141 Před 3 lety +3

    I wonder if the lady that had possession of the tapes after the lawyer died listened to them before she turned them over? How couldn’t you or made copies?

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety

      How? It would take not being a dumbass who doesn't wanna go to prison.

    • @lauralamberth6901
      @lauralamberth6901 Před 11 měsíci

      She already knew/knows the truth and is in on the whole thing.

  • @daviddryden8088
    @daviddryden8088 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Interestingly, Van Houten was paroled last year.

  • @dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450
    @dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450 Před 3 lety +6

    It is probably because the truth connected to someone or some people very very important and prominent.

    • @Taiyou536
      @Taiyou536 Před 2 lety

      Polanski is suspicious to me as well - he did not want that baby and Sharon wanted the divorce !

    • @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
      @HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM Před 2 lety +1

      DING DING DING, wow someone who isn't stupid. cool.

  • @paulhart3812
    @paulhart3812 Před 4 lety +11

    During the Gary Hinman trial, Bobby Beausoleil shared a holding cell with Manson. Bobby says Manson told him the Tate murders happened because of Terry Melcher's rejection of Manson's music. That interview is in the documentary: Manson: The Lost Tapes. Manson himself corroborated Bobby's story in three interviews.

    • @paulhart3812
      @paulhart3812 Před 4 lety +2

      @Damon Davis ... Absolutely correct. The copycat motive was ONE of the reasons. But why was 10050 Cielo Drive specifically chosen? They could've gone anywhere for copycat killings. Manson himself said Cielo Drive was chosen because of Terry Melcher. (He said this in 3 interviews: Ron Reagan Jr., Bill Scanlon Murphy and Diane Sawyer.) This is backed up by what Bobby Beausoleil says Manson told him. This is backed up by what Susan Atkins first told police. So the killings at Cielo Drive had two motives. Excuse the pun... but they were killing TWO birds with one stone.

    • @rosesprog1722
      @rosesprog1722 Před 3 lety +3

      @@paulhart3812 No, Tex had started dealing drugs big time, he got framed, Jay Sebring was a big cat, Tex went for him. The cover up was to hide high society involvement with drug dealing, Mr. 'coffee' Folger, Abigail's father poured huge sums to make sure that those who knew the truth (Bugliosi) never talked, Manson happened to be there at the wrong time, he had nothing to do with any of this, he was a car thief.

    • @paulhart3812
      @paulhart3812 Před 3 lety +7

      @@rosesprog1722 ... I'm only going by what Manson himself said in several interviews. Whenever he was asked WHY the house at 10050 Cielo Drive was chosen for the murders, he says it was because of Terry Melcher. Watch the Ron Reagan Jr. interview where Manson says: "Sharon Tate and the others died because Terry Melcher broke a contract, and sent three Orientals to Spahn Ranch to kill someone." (I know who those three Orientals were, but that's a story for another day. They were sent to Spahn Ranch by Melcher, and one of them did try to kill Manson with a pitchfork... but that's not why Melcher sent them there. Melcher sent them to record Manson with a mobil studio unit in mid-June 1969. But Manson and the others THOUGHT Melcher was trying to kill them.
      Also, in the Bill S. Murphy interview, Murphy asks Manson WHY Cielo Drive was chosen... and Manson says: "Melcher sent this blonde-haired, blue-eyed Oriental to attack me. This clown told me to STAY OUT OF THE MUSIC BUSINESS, OR HE'D CUT MY HEAD OFF, and he wanted to fight. I ran behind a shed, and Bruce Davis fought him." This Blonde Oriental was Mike Deasy (a recording engineer for Melcher) who only appeared Asian. He wasn't. This is why Susan Atkins said the killings at Cielo Drive were to put the "fear of God in Melcher." According to Manson, the killings at Sharon Tate's house were retaliation for this attack at Spahn's Ranch, and Melcher's broken promises.

    • @rosesprog1722
      @rosesprog1722 Před 3 lety +4

      @@paulhart3812 If you want to scare someone you don't kill those who moved in your old house, they have nothing to do with this contract business, that's ridiculous. Melcher had not broken a contract, just a possibility and Deasy had overdosed and freaked out, he wasn't there to attack anyone, only to record some demos. Manson had nothing to do with those murders, Atkins can say what she want they all tried to implicate Charlie to get the same deal Linda got, they lied. Only a big drug deal gone bad makes sense. Just watch a few minutes of this: czcams.com/video/9QNkCqdpryI/video.html

    • @Squash101
      @Squash101 Před 2 lety

      It seems from one of O'Neill's instagram post that one if not all in that house were the target. I say this because Jay Sebrings house wires were cut the night prior to the murders similar to the Tate houses