LEARN THIS SKILL! How to Drop and More
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2023
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This skill will not only help you stay safe and drop better, but it will be a vital practice in learning how to control your bike and shift body weight to take your riding to the next level.
Thanks to @aribikes for helping us make this Back to Basics series possible.
The Delano Peak is an awesome all around trail shredder and why we chose it for this demonstration.
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Great video. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! I would love to see the appropriate technique for a dropoff on a steep slope where your weight is already back and your arms outstretched. This is where I struggle.
Great suggestion! We’ll work on this
If you stay in the attack position and bend your knees it will get you closer to the bars and there for get you closer to the front and have more control.
Awesome stuff man !!
Thanks for the lesson 🤜🏼
You bet!
This was SUPER helpful. Thank you! This really gives me some direction on where to start practicing and what (and what not) to do on drops. I live in New England and our trails have a lot of drops.
Glad it was helpful!
This is a great video because I have trouble with drops and what you said about the speed is absolutely correct
Thanks and we’re glad it helped!
Great video! a video skill request from me would be about getting into jumping, specially how to deal with the feet coming out from the pedals when using flats.
Thanks Man 🤟🏽🍻
No problem 👍
Fantastic video
Thanks! 😃
Very good explanation. Would like to have a follow-up video on coming down a steep twisty trail with drop off followed by a sharp turn immediately after the drop.
Great suggestion!
r/oddlyspecific 😉 that's just a combination of different skills dude, the one shown in the video included, mostly general bike control.
GOLDDDD❤❤ niceviddddd
I tried this on trail after a few practice drops yesterday. Worked great on the 2' natural drops with tight turns and follow on drops. Thanks for the technique!
Glad to hear it and so stoked it helped out!
Thanks a lot for this video. It helped me identify the main issue with my technique. I’ve never used my legs as the initial source of driving energy.
Glad it helped! Awesome to hear and hope it sends you off some nice new drops confidently!
Just got my 1st bike since a kid. Thought I should learn some technique. Thanks for the video. I would def try to pull the handle bars up!
That’s awesome!! Congrats and have a ton of fun.
Great video, I like the way you presented the content. Better than most. Maybe you could do a video on how you control your landing trajectory. There are a lot of videos out there about how to jump and do drops but I have not seen anything on how to control your landing trajectory after you leave the ground. How about a video on what you need to do if your landing area is sloped downhill, uphill or even flat. Even on drops, a sloped or flat landing area. How do you deal with the landings.
Thanks for the idea! And glad you enjoyed this one.
I love the way you break it down. You just pointed out something I’ve been doing wrong for years and I never noticed until just now! Thanks 🥰
Happy to hear it! Hope this helps you on the trail!
Today I put the knowledge to work! Hit a kicker on trail. I did not pull up w my arms but used my legs n it was perfect plus there was a log where my front tire was gonna land n bc I wasn’t using my arms to pull up I was able to control where I put my front tire down, missing the log!! Had a pulled up w my arms I’d have slammed down on that log, prob taco’d a tire n def OTBd. Thank you!!!
Yes!! That is so awesome to hear. Very glad you're feeling more confident and in control of your bike! Nicely done.
Love your content, fyi I’m a Hardtail rider
Your very informative and detailed oriented in riding mtb
Thank you very much! Appreciate the feedback and hope it helped.
Appreciate the instruction, really really wish there were more and slower playbacks!
Thank you for the tips.
I really like your stuff. I think it's super informative.
PS are you I grew up in those apartments just where you were filming and I never dreamed of dropping those walls.
Thanks very much we appreciate that. And what a coincidence! Now you’ll have to go visit them for a drop session.
Nice ! Quick question. Is your rear tyre fitted in the wrong direction? I believe the "DHR2" logo is supposed to face on the drive side.
Nice Vid! Great Explanation. It still works great, even if the Backwheel-Tire is running in the wrong direction... 😮
Nice catch!!
What grips are you using? Im having a problem finding comfort in my hands.
thank you. such a natural teacher and presenter. I'm loving loam wolf...but where is the wolf beard?
Haha, from time to time it gets a bit unwieldy and has to get trimmed back. But it’s in the return! Thanks for watching and hope it helped.
@@TheLoamWolf It halped a bunch! thanks! i practice drops A LOT. i didn't realize until this video how much of a dry hump motion it was. helped me progress from 2 foot ot 3 foot drops. still not ready for those 4.5 foot drops
Imo this technique quickly can get dangerous when not performed correctly. I strongly recommend the dropping tutorial video from ben cathro‘s how to bike series!!
Thanks for sharing, as with all aspects of riding, this skill/technique applies to certain types of drops, landings and speeds. The more skills and techniques riders can develop, the better they’ll be to handle the various types of terrain and drops on the trail
Epic, thanks man @55 and 5000k on my trek this helps.
That’s awesome and happy to help! Enjoy the ride.
How come my feet comes off the pedal at bigger drops? What does some ppl turn the handalbar on drops? Thanks
Your jersey almost reminds me of one of my old band’s logos: the Aquabats.
You were in the Aquabats!?! No way.
@@TheLoamWolf Yeah man. I was one of the original members. Gumby was my name in the band. But that was forever ago... now I'm old and just try to ride mtb without killing myself. Thanks for your videos!
That is awesome! Well, I’m glad we can return the favor from all the entertainment your band has given!
For that handlebar height drop, minimum front and rear travel that you’d be okay with???
That’s all rider skill/desire preference. I could do it on a hardtail, but I’d rather do it with 120mm front and back and I’d be even happier to do it with 140mm out back. The Delano in this video is a 140/160 rear/front.
When’s the yt tues review coming ?
How important is saddle position for executing these techniques?
As a taller rider, my normal pedaling seat height puts my center of gravity up quite high.
Getting my body weight low enough to initiate pre load and pedal scoop motions is very difficult to do at full saddle height. I find myself having to constantly adjust my dropper on the fly. On fast, flowy trails, the timing of this can be difficult.
Is this just something that’s inherently more difficult for taller riders or is there some technique at full saddle height that I’m just not getting?
Hey Gabes, if you notice in every one of the examples shown, the dropper post is down. Regardless of rider height, the saddle will definitely get in the way of many dynamic movements for climbing, descending and cornering. Dropper posts have become invaluable assets for mountain bikers, so don’t feel like you’re using it too much! Don’t make things harder or more dangerous than they need to be, get that thing out of your way and you’ll start cleaning techs climbs, cornering better and descending more confidently.
The whole point of dropper posts is the ability to adjust saddle height on-the-fly. On fast, flowy trails, you should be standing on your pedals with the saddle fully lowered.
#TheLoamWolf .... Any chance you can try this just to see if it is as simple as I find it.
Coming from a background of traillriding (early 80's up to a few years ago on my YZ 2pokes...) I'm an 'OK' MTB'er but getting a little long in the tooth for doubles etc...
It actually took a while to get into drops over axle height and when I did it was still all sorts of wrong....
but I finally found such an easy way that feels soooo comfortable
Very similar to this video... Shoulders down in a 'Prepared' stance as you roll in... but rather than a pedal preload... just a bar preload... and THATS IT....
No push forward (unless your going too slow) but that saves the pushout for that moment when something went wrong and you need something extra. (I saved myself in just a situation when distracted and braked on a 1m drop with a call of rider down, then without thinking rolled off the 1m rather than stopping... a slow roll, front only preload and a pushout got me over a 1m drop at near walking pace...
I did a mediocre video on it...
I found depending on the speed.. from about a running pace, I can drop 1m to flat.. (ok I have an old Giant Faith 0 so 7" helps but the landings are slight nose down and so simple I don't get caught with odd body positioning..)
As mentioned... I'm just Mediocre... but over 50 I prefer a style that leaves me feeling completely at ease.. and with such a simplistic idea... (Unlike the 'lift and dead sailor' method I was still doing on my 1st 1m drop I video's a year or so previous).
assuming conditions are all the same and approachspeed is all the same , my front wheel lift should all be the same height/ effort regardless of drop height ?
Well, that is the tough part of mountain biking, or any sport really...There are so many variables from angle of the drop surface to angle of landing, the speed you approach, the height of drop etc...
This skill, combined with many others all work together to give the rider the best chances to adapt on the fly to the drop coming right at them.
I believe this skill is one of the most fundamental to keep yourself safe if you unexpectedly encounter a drop last minute, or are new to drops and struggle in keeping your front wheel up.
BUT, to answer your question as briefly as possible, it will be pretty close to the same effort/height for lift. HOWEVER, the big caveat is, how long that front wheel needs to hang up in the air until the rear wheel clears the ledge, which is also how long, or how fast you need to shift your butt and center off mass forward or backward on the bike to prepare for and absorb the landing! A nuance that is very important to a strong body position for landing and the recovery maneuvering needed after the drop and to prepare for what's next.
@@TheLoamWolf wow hey thanks for such a detailed reply 🙏
Thumbs up 👍
Is your back tire on the wrong direction?
Great eyes! Robert played a prank on me cuz I asked him to change a tire for me… 🤦♂️😂
Does this work the same on a hardtail?
Yes it does.
Phew. You can waffle.
Excellent video. The last drop, at speed, with the different technique was a little confusing and didn't have a lot of explanation. I'd love to see a follow-up video, or even short, that focuses on this a bit more thoroughly. :)
Copy that will do!
@@TheLoamWolf Thank you!!!
What does karate kid to while Mr Miyage's not around?
Wax off.
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Bob...
This is not how I do drops at all, I don't know why we have such different technique. But hey both work so, yeah. And yes I can drop any height.
As the saying goes, there’s more than one way to peel a banana…or something like that?? Ha ha
u r pulling the front too much when u drop. it works with small drops but disaster when u go bigger drops.
There are a variety of different types of drops and techniques to coincide with the speed, rider skillset and landing.
We made this video for riders who are not hitting 8-20 foot drops and nosing into landings since, they probably already have this basic skill and technique dialed in.
This is for slower speed trail drops where landings are not present or ledges where people are trying to work up the courage and technique to get down safely before progressing to the next step.
I didn’t think anyone would still call that “a proper technique”. People please don’t do drops like that, eventually you will get hurt. Just watch some enduro / dh races, no one does this method - maybe there is a reason for it?
This video isn't really intended to help or offer insight to people who are racing DH or enduro. As speeds, steepness and skills progress it's certainly understood that body position, technique and timing change dramatically. This is designed as a more basic principle of learning to shift body weight, work on timing and control the bicycle beneath you for slower speed and smaller drops for riders who are looking to gain skills and insights before going off bigger drops with speed and momentum behind them.
I don't have enough tattoos to do drops anyway.