Dyscalculia - A Parent's Guide
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- Dyscalculia specialist Ronit Bird talks about the difficulties some children have in developing number sense and learning basic arithmetic. She explains some of the common symptoms and indicators for dyscalculia and offers suggstions for how parents can help their children at home. For more information on Dyscalculia please visit www.ronitbird.com/
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I wish my teachers knew about this when I was in primary school, I am now 23 and still find maths daunting! As a child I would get frustrated and end up crying so the teachers just shoved me to one side or gave me lower level work which I still found hard!
I got extra support in high school but when I moved schools to take my gcse's I was shoved to the back of the class again. I have only recently found out about this diagnosis I am really happy I am not the only one!
Some people just find math hard but i find math nearly impossible to understand and I still get frustrated with myself! My parents tell me when someone would give me a math problem to solve I would shut off or as they called it a brick wall would go up!
Thank you for making this video I wish schools knew more about it but hopefully in the future it will be just as well known as dyslexia.
+Lunar Fang When I was in grade school we had to do math drills in front of the class. It was so humiliating. I was made fun of. :(
OMG! I am ALWAYS told I put up a wall in my brain when asked a more 'complex' question when it comes to maths. I honestly relate to so many of these symtoms and more. How can we actually get this test done?
@@syberchick70 I am always being judged or giggled at at time to time... 😐 It's sad.
I can relate to this.. 😔
My teacher totally ignored me.
I just got my proverbial
D if lucky an F, shipped off to summer school, passed because my mother paid.
I never gave up on my self still attempting to find the answers at 70. yrs young.
My mom showed me this video after she found it, and I realized that I might have this because I have always had trouble with math and numbers. It makes me feel stupid because even my younger siblings can do better than I. At one point in my life before highschool, my brother who is 2 years younger was doing the same math as me. I often give up on math because i don't understand it and then I fail because I don't do my homework.
I just recently discovered I have dyscalculia and I’m 40+. I’ve lived with it my whole life and coming from an Asian background it’s quite daunting since there is a misconception all Asians are mathematical geniuses. This would have avoided me getting punished unnecessarily as a child for failing in math every time. I’ve come to terms w it now as an adult but wasn’t easy during my adolescence school years.
Hi Sammy. I'm a maths anxiety coach and I'm curious to know if you have suffered from maths anxiety at any stage?
Same here, also near 40 coming from Asian background and even had a minor degree in CS, but still I suffer with basic arithmetics and had always have troubles learning new concepts related to numbers / sequences / quantities. The way I managed basic arithmetics was through rote memorization. I can vividly remember I used to think the numbers 1 to 20 as twenty people being individual characters dressed in different colors of clothings. 😅Also I could not comprehend the idea of time well and suffered in telling the time. I wish there was better knowledge about dyscalculia and new methods of learning and teaching when I was at school. 😢 What can be done for adults with dyscalculia…?
Oh lord this was me. I’ve never heard this explained so clearly. Every single time I was presented with even a fairly simple addition, I would have to start from scratch counting it. The fact never stuck. It also took me until my late teens (when I started driving!) to have a shaky grasp on right/left, and I remember having horrible struggles to read an analog clock. I NEVER was able to memorize times tables.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF LEARNING I HAVE,BUT I DIDNT KNOW UNTIL REALLY LATE IN MY SCHOOLING.
The indicators apply to both children and adults. But for a formal diagnosis (in the UK) you would need to be assessed by a chartered Educational Psychologist.
Thank you so much for this video. I could never explain my maths issue as I didn't fully understand what I didn't get about maths myself, I just knew that I was bad at it and finally got diagnosed when I was roughly 14. I think I cried a bit at the kid who said "Is it 5? No!".
I am sure my daughter has dyscalculia, so I will have her tested. Two things came to my mind. Firstly, I had the biggest problems with Text/ written exercises in maths, because I read the little story which triggered my imagination and story telling talent (and the respective brain part) but then - which to me seemed all of a sudden - I was meant to do maths. This was always too much for my brain, because I didnt want to leave the thinking area I felt confindent in and which had just been roused only to shut it down and then switch to the maths brain Part which was much weaker and uncomfortable.
Also I was completely confused by chemistry at school since letters which I loved and to which I felt a deep connection were used in a "number way". I asked my teacher how it would be possible to use letters for doing math?!
This was totally beyond imagination for my brain. Letters yes, maths no. Maths with letters equalled confusion...
So I will give my best to try to feel with my daughter. Thank you. :-)
i was just diagnosed at 24. trying to get through college with only math classes left. its been hard.
Oh my god THANK YOU! I could never explain or even understand myself what the hell was so hard about maths, but this explains it so well...Especially with the kid and the 4+_=9.
Excellent explanation. My eldest daughter has all the symptoms of dyscalculia, especially sequencing and mental Maths. However, the local ed psychologist could not diagnose her for anything when she was 17 years old. Through lots of hardwork, she did pass her O Level Elementary Maths and even Additional Maths. I fully understood the stress of parents who struggle to help children with such challenges. I am now exploring ways to help many children have dyscalculia. I would be keen to check out your books and e-books. Well done!
I really wish I had this knowledge when I was a child- teen. I’m 54, and tried to finish college, and had to drop out because of my continuing difficulties with mathematics. Can’t seem to get passed algebra.
This is an amazing explanatory video. I'm 25 and have mild dyslexia and severe dyscalculia. I've been stuck in the 'counting trap' since as long as I can remember. My partner did a maths degree and is the only person who has ever taken the time to try and help me develop my numeracy skills, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that I have absolutely no automatic recall just like you explained in the video. Your workbooks look fantastic and I will definitely be looking into getting some.
Find me for help if you want .
i can help you with your number sense .
Thanks so much for this video and your wonderful books. They've helped me so much in recognizing my daughter's dyscalculia and finding ways of helping her.
I’m 19, and I wasn’t able to guess when there were 13 glass nuggets - as a matter of fact, I just took your word for it when you said 13, because I didn’t have time to count. I’m going to be evaluated this Thursday. Struggled with math all my life so far. I still don’t know my full times tables. I still struggle with division. Basically anything that’s math that isn’t concrete stuff, I have trouble with. And, again, I’m 19 years old.
Good luck on Thursday!
Don’t give up. I lived with this my whole life. What helped me was just memorizing. Not so much the concept of math since that’s the real issue w ppl suffering from dyscalculia. Til this day I still struggle w left/right, counting back change, time analogs or certain terms or concepts but really this doesn’t interfere anyway w daily living. Just find what works best for you! Good luck!
Me too
Omg same I can relate to not knowing ALL times tables and I barely know any division. - Please don't judge ;-;
I hope it went well on Thursday!
I have thesame problem and i am 30y.o.. i struggled all my life with math.. when i was in elementary and highschool whenever they give me a math exam.. with problem solving i don't have any clue what to write on my paper even though i have a calculator with me.. i always end up passing my paper without any answer.. my math teacher is always thinking that i am just lazy to learn,solve or too lazy to take my exam but she/he didn't even know that i was struggling and i was having an anxiety attack while having a headache because i have this problem.. i was only diagnosed about having this when i was already 28y.o.. 😔 that is the time i finally understand why i always have a failing grade in math all my life.
Really good, well explained. Thank you.
Excellent presentation!
Maths has been my enemy for most of my life! I was probably happiest when I was a baby lol...
Me too😞
I'm 53 I've struggled terribly all my life, in school I thought I was THICK.
this is an awsum vid very informative n alot easier to understand then others and actually about discalculia not dyslexia. didn't get my diagnosis till was 37 n my mom argued alot with my teachers about my using my fingers since she found a book that taught how to count to 99 on my fingers n one o my cousins who is dyslexic ga e me some tips about times tables tho i only remembrcthe one for 9's
I was just reacintly diagnosed dyscalcullia
That's really interesting. I had no idea there was even a name for it. I've had this all my life. I'm actually VERY good at spatial concepts, like... being able to pack different sized boxes into a truck efficiently, but ask me to make change ($13.50 out of $20) and I'll grab my calculator because it's too embarrassing to count on my fingers. It's very stressful, but I've developed coping mechanisms over the years of course. I'm also homeschooling my son (who is nearly 9) and he seems to do ok, even though I have to research some math concepts to teach them to him.
I'm 15 and I have to count on my hands or use a calculator and I don't know my times tables everyone else in my class does except me! My teacher picks in me and she asks me a question and I never know the anwser cause she never gives me enough time to actually figure it out..
I have learned that I have dyscalculia when I was 51 years old. Now I am 54 years old lady. It takes longer time to understand math for us.
I have just learned that I have dyscalculia (I am 37) and so does my son (7)...this is really difficult to help him when I have difficulty with math and I have accumulated a life time of learning to hate numbers.
When I was 10 my primary school teachers thought I had dyscalculia and my parents had to come in regularly to talk to them about helping me but I'm 15 now and I still don't know my times tables I have to count using my fingers I'm basically bottom of my class in maths...
Is there a different set of criteria for diagnosing adults, or is it the same? I think I might have Dyscalculia but I am having a hard time finding info for adults.
i had trouble with addition in 6 grade but not the others. after a head injury at 19 i couldnt do math over 3rd grade. i had to relearn times tables,division etc
Yes, although my video is about developmental dyscalculia - a specific learning difficulty that roughly 5% of the population is born with - it is also possible to acquire dyscalculia later in life as the result of brain injury. For more about this, do read Prof Brian Butterworth.
Wow! I'm 32 and was diagnosed with dyscalculia (although it wasn't called that way back when) in 1st grade. No one really ever explained it to me or anyone as well as you have. I tried out the Number Sense website, I think that was the name, and the activities made a lot of sense (finally!) but having tools to physically manipulate would be great. They did use the cubical colored blocks/base blocks in school when I was growing up but I'm not sure I caught on to what they were teaching with them really. Not sure where to start, feel like I almost have to go way back to the beginning. Do you have any suggestions? I'll definitely be looking through your videos and website. Thank you so much for making this video.
I do believe that you would experience working with concrete materials completely differently to the way you remember struggling with numeracy at school. Who knows, exploring numbers and their relationships with a set of Cuisenaire rods might even get you to enjoy maths and its challenges? Good luck!
I as well have this and i am 31 years old, i also have a hard time spelling but reading is fine, depending on how long the word is and how it's spelled. It sucks! And now my kids are having a hard time with math. I want to help myself so I can help my kids
Hello, I'm 14 and I struggle with math I forget everything about it, I don't understand it my brother is so much better at it them im at it, and he's younger thans me, its so frustaerating..
Thanks for the video, really helpful. I am a special needs teacher but I don't live in UK. I would love to have your book about Dyscalculia, the first grade. Can it be purchased online and downloaded?
Kindle editions of all three of my print books published by Sage are available, but I believe that earlier editions were not as nicely laid out on the screen as they are on the page, so may not be quite as easy to use as owning a physical copy of the book. This issue may have been improved in the new (third) edition of The Dyscalculia Toolkit, which has the added advantage to you that the extra resources are provided not on a CD, as previously, but online via an access code supplied with each book. The ebooks that I produced myself, the main aim of which was to include lots of demonstration videos, can be purchased online via iBook by anyone who has an iTunes account and an iPad or Apple computer.
I'm ok with Words, I like words and reading but numbers this is how it works, complete black out or imagine numbers leaving the page and start swirling around in the air, and then trying to catch them and put them back on the page to try and work something out, my memory is terrible too I have to continually go over the things
Thanks
I HAVE DYSCALCULIA AND WHEN I GO TO SCHOOL WHEN IT'S MATH TIME AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE I WILL TELL THE TEACHER I HAVE Dyscalculia
Do your books touch on other components of Dyscalculia like time and direction sense?
I suspect I've always had this condition. I excelled in school without trying through my college degree, but I started having severe math trouble in 3rd grade and it never really improved. I always understood word problems and could figure them out, talk my (now) hubby through advanced trig and calc concepts and solve patterns super quickly, but ask me to count by 3s and I just can't. Or work the drawer at retail stores (though I did, badly). Now I'm a homeschool mom, and I suspect my kids suffer from some sort of math disability. I wish I knew as a kid that I wasn't just stupid and there was something else at play. Thanks for you work in this area. So much more needs to be done!
My books are all about hands-on activities and games to help children develop their sense of number and learn some reliable arithmetic strategies, based on understanding rather than relying on memorising facts. I am not sure a sense of direction can be taught, but I have produced a CZcams video about how to read an analogue clock. I am glad to hear that my publications are helping you homeschool your children. Good luck!
+Jeni W Hah - I just tried counting by 3s... In my head I said "3, 6, 9, 12 (13,14)15, (16,17)18.... counting by ones. I can count by 2s, 5s and 10s easily enough, but not other numbers.
I was diagnosed last year with ADHD in my 50s and I'm medicated. Dyscalculia symptoms feel very familiar. Over the last 15 years or so I've attended endless adult maths classes and private lessons but little sticks. I can't afford an assessment as on benefits. Do you think any of your books and resources might help? Even though it feels like I've tried everything I'm willing to try anything new. Thank you.
If, as you say, the indicators I've flagged up for dyscalculia in this video feel familiar, I am guessing that you are someone who still feels the need to count on their fingers for even single-digit additions and subtractions, cannot remember times tables facts reliably, etc, etc. In which case, the approach that is detailed in my ebook series and in 'The Dyscalculia Toolkit' is likely to be of great benefit to you, provided you are willing to put in the time to work at the concrete level until you've really understood and internalised what is going on. All you need to get started is a copy of my 'Exploring Numbers Through Cuisenaire Rods' followed, when you are ready, by 'Understanding Times Tables'. Both ebooks are, deliberately, priced very inexpensively, and I'd advise you to shop around for a set of the Cuisenaire rods (currently, both Numicon and Amazon are charging almost twice as much as The Cuisenaire Rod Company. You will find more details about buying rods in Chapter 1 of the ebook). If, on the other hand, you are already beyond the stage of finger-counting for every type of calculation, you might be better off starting with the suggestions detailed in later chapter of 'The Dyscalculia Toolkit' or in my second print book 'Overcoming Dyscalculia & Difficulties with Number'. (To help you choose the most appropriate book, you can use the 'Look inside' facility at the bottom of the books page on my website: www.ronitbird.com/books/ .) Whatever you decide, my advice is to start working at the practical stage with manipulative concrete materials, supported by diagrams and sketches wherever they help, and to focus on developing your understanding - step by step - rather than on trying to learn stuff by heart. Attempts to memorise abstract facts can never be successful if there is no proper foundation on which to build. Good luck!
I'm 10 and I have it
I was trying to figure-out some kind of game to play with the dominoes
You can find lots of ideas for domino (and other) numeracy games on the 'games' pages of my website: ronitbird.com .
concrete materials are too heavy ;)
parietal lobe is math area/
Is dyscalculia hereditary?
+Liv Martinez Yes, it does tend to run in families, and the fact that dyscalculia affects many more boys than girls means that there must be a genetic link.
i have it but my family dont
why?
Maybe it skipped a generation, or affected some distant relatives? My speciality is teaching, not genetics, so I can't really answer your question.
Yes in my family I did and so is my son. All dyslexia Dysgraphia, dyscalculia