Huang Longshi Is Playing for Influence

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • Who said that Huang Longshi never had any worthy opponents? Here is one he played a series of 30 games in Paradise Garden against. This particular game also happens to be an example of Longshi's unorthodox and genius use of influence.
    This lesson is from our course "Huang Longshi: Legend of Blood and Tears"
    gomagic.org/courses/huang-lon...
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    00:00:00 Longshi the prodigy
    00:00:46 The first game
    00:01:05 An unusual early invasion
    00:02:33 Longshi's influence plan
    00:05:19 Powerful reading that gets Longshi out of trouble
    00:10:08 Second game opening

Komentáře • 29

  • @leasanabria
    @leasanabria Před 5 měsíci +9

    love your shirt

  • @robsonclark9678
    @robsonclark9678 Před 5 měsíci +3

    This game was fun to watch and have you telling it's story, cool!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's part of an entire course about the life of that player. The course is not free but it's pretty cool.

  • @countingtls
    @countingtls Před 5 měsíci +5

    11:17 nice video for good ancient Chinese games. And there is a good reason why they favored the cut and split everywhere fighting style, since they need to consider group tax, the more they can split but connect their own groups the better.
    And if you want to check using AI, you might need to change the setting of scoring method to stone-scoring, tax rule all, and no komi. Although not perfect (there are special weights trained using stone scoring), but would shift a lot of the AI opening and yose closer to the old styles they would play (need to set playouts quite high with wide root spread, i.e. higher analysisWideRootNoise value of at least 0.1 if you are using Katago, for the simulation propogarte further toward endgame to have impact).

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci +1

      We were nerdy when preparing this lesson (and the entire course) but not THAT nerdy 😂

  • @zsoltorban
    @zsoltorban Před 5 měsíci +2

    Nice commentary. A lot of blue colour in this video, especially the shirt. Keep up the good work!
    All the best to you and the team for the hard work!

  • @18waywardson
    @18waywardson Před 5 měsíci +9

    Just a tip, the "Shi" in Huang Longshi is pronounced "shur", not "shee". Thank you for the video!

    • @SionLion
      @SionLion Před 5 měsíci +1

      Depends if you are from the north or sud😂

    • @ShredST
      @ShredST Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ehh I thought he pronounced it fine. He doesn't have to sound like he's from Beijing

    • @countingtls
      @countingtls Před 5 měsíci +5

      Huang Longshi was from Taizhou (泰州 somewhere between modern Nanjing and Shanghai), and he would speak a dialect of Suzhou, so he would likely pronouce 士 in his name a bit like "絲" in modern standard Chinese.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Sorry for not pronouncing the name the way Huang Longshi himself would 😂

  • @derekrunsagain
    @derekrunsagain Před 5 měsíci +2

    Good games!

  • @Toucanyou
    @Toucanyou Před 5 měsíci

    Michael Redmond has also reviewed this game, but I think your explanation of the first fight is easier to understand

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Wow, that is a HUGE compliment! Thank you!

  • @user-nw9rn7vi2r
    @user-nw9rn7vi2r Před 4 měsíci

    Wish more people play go in my country, they only know this game from either avatar or hunter x hunter.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 4 měsíci +1

      This is a lament that many people share...regardless of the country =)

  • @minewen8377
    @minewen8377 Před 5 měsíci +2

    0:51 Why there is a white move now?

    • @leasanabria
      @leasanabria Před 5 měsíci +6

      at that time, go games in china started with 4 stones placed on the board, and white played first.

  • @Trevie3
    @Trevie3 Před 5 měsíci

    I love game reviews, this is great thank you. Also ancient Chinese rules were so cool, I love the group tax punishing you for having disconnected groups, and how they started every game with alternate stones on diagonals.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah, those games were quite a bit different from what we know today. And that's wonderful.

  • @mumbo2526
    @mumbo2526 Před 5 měsíci

    At 6:27 ; couldn’t White still just take the stone instead of descending? The second black stone played before the sequence doesn’t seem to break the ladder.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci

      True, but that way Black's 3 stones would be able to escape on the 2nd line. White wanted to try and kill them.

  • @thomlee
    @thomlee Před 5 měsíci

    why white played the 5th move for Game #2? isn't it supposed to be black's turn?

    • @ShredST
      @ShredST Před 5 měsíci +1

      Not back then

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  Před 5 měsíci +2

      At that time White played first.

    • @thomlee
      @thomlee Před 5 měsíci +1

      I learned something new today. 😅