In rural areas some people own huge pieces of fertile land. It is interesting that these land rhetoric parties are not mobilizing communities to make good use of that land but obsessed with the land that is not in our hands!
Any party that undertakes to return the land into black hands deserves a vote. EFF, PAC & MK must join hands to defeat the imperialists and their local cronies.
Icala aliboli. Kanjalo neqiniso alibolo. The PAC will not and cannot die. It is a pursuit of the historical mission led by Sobukwe and the like. It is the only party that left the ANC on ethical and ideological grounds.
😂 1st time seeing this man, and I was just about to skip the interview, but 5minutes later, it's a different story all together. Interesting character. Now I know him
I truly believe what he says. Cancel ministerial appointments. Plus most of them are by law pensioners already but won’t retire. Scrap those posts and dispatch the young supporting employees of those ministers be placed elsewhere. It’s all crazy in government. Duplication of posts , failing healthcare, corrupt policing . Military incompetency, kore ke nywabese fela. One can say a lot indeed . But how do we rectify this
I'm so ashamed to say this, it's rare for me to connect with some guests on South African podcast platforms in general but this one went straight to my heart. There appears to be an air of shallowness or mental instability lurking somewhere within these conversations with particular emphasis on the land, along with a de-contextualised understanding of current events that makes us look crazy to the rest of the world. This wasn't disjointed, impractical nor unreasonable. I'm happy to say this is one of my favourite interviews conducted that I've seen in the S.A podcast scene! Mayibuye iAfrica ✊🏽❤🖤💚
The same was said about Robert Mugabe until the citizens found out the true Mugabe, the one whose family claimed most of the farms for themselves and cronies. .
The issue with land boils down to this: no one is born with land. Throughout history, land has always been in the hands of the courageous. If you couldn't defend it, you lost it. Land has consistently shifted up the power hierarchy, from the vulnerable to the powerful, worldwide. Even in many African tribes, those who possess large swathes of land are the ones who conquered numerous others. If you haven't fought and secured your land in the battleground during the state of nature, you can't just expect to claim it in a democratic society. No one will hand you land on a silver platter. Instead of negotiating with the apartheid government, they should have gone to the battlefield and fought for what they claim to be theirs.
I'm saying that during apartheid, they should have seized the land rather than entering into negotiations. Why push for land redistribution when many illegal African immigrants in South Africa claim to own land in their home countries? Additionally, can a government that's been ineffective in fighting crime, corruption, running schools, maintaining healthcare, and building infrastructure be trusted to redistribute land for the people's benefit rather than their own?
While we have this conversation can we discuss and work on at least 2 of the things I'll list below because after land is taken, it will be war time and regular south Africans are not prepared 1) Controlling a water source and food production/processesing 2) Military training, which includes physical, strategy, weapons and explosives, etc Fine land can be taken. Are you, we, prepared to fight to the death to keep it. Are we prepared to do everything ourselves render services the government would normally provide to it's citizens because once we have the land we can't be crying talking about we need electricity, infrastructure, clinics if we aren't prepared to build and run those ourselves
Thanks King David, this interview is progressive and very important 🔥💪🏾 But also, we should at one point also address the issue of high alcohol consumption in South Africa, and perhaps the agenda behind it 🤔. We've seen time and time again how the majority black has fallen target to whatever agenda there is, of course in collaboration with other factors 💀👀.
I have an ill-discplined nephew who WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SCORE A JOB. He blows earnings on alcohol. I am not perfect but my nephew is tragically worse. I drink alcohol not though.
Eish the alcohol, sex, drugs is a real pandemic in black communities world wide. I believe there are some sort of social engineering programs behind all of this, steming from long ago until recently
Re-train and rehabilitate the police system, the justice system, the educational system the politics and its parliamentary system, and the voting system, with direct elections and constituency representatives.
This diaspora war must be a West Africa thing. I know not a single person in southern part of Africa expressing warlike feelings towards blacks in diaspora We got no reason to beef with AAs. None whatsoever
I don’t understand this point we want the land ok but how are you going to distribute this land I’m sure you have a plan so can you actually explain how you will do this so people could by into this ,I think you wish to be like that white guy who has so much , it would be better to put the end process on the table too
how are you going get ramaphosa or the premiere of eastern cape work on uplifting our little town centane if you talking down on their revenue stream or their party(ANC)if i should say?
Look at all the land that was already taken and ask yourself with honesty are they productive or just waste land and you're still talking about taking more land .what will happen if everything on the land be taken away and you have only the land left will there be productivity or just only cheap talk like we see for many years. Productive land was taken away and now are laying empty why because it was a forced issue.
It’s wild, did those parties get themselves to Parliament? Were they not voted for by people? South Africa has its share of problems but in the whole continent of Africa it has the freest & fairest elections and relatively robust & free media space even the public broadcaster is relatively independent covering opposition programs and negative stories about ruling party. No one is being beaten up or killed to vote a certain way. Why are the people not voting for you the ‘bold’ ones? Could it be they don’t buy into the rhetoric?
Voters in South Africa is mostly influenced by the media narratives, they vote for parties which have more media airtime & footprint & with large campaign budgets, food parcel donations, etc. The average voter is not well vested in politics, land issues, economics. They just want to eat & survive at this point so such parties are nowhere to be seen & they have little following and not much sponsors because of their uncharismatic leaders. On the other hand EFF preaches the same land matter and they've been growing.
Lol, the word "Azania", its an Arabic word that simple means (The LAND OF THE SLAVES) ...........This guy must do his research and stop advertising his ignorance. Yes, the land issue is important to all south African and yes it should be distributed amongst all south Africans and blacks in particular.
Where did your people get the land in the first place? All land on the planet can be bought: 1. By money 2. By blood How will YOU pay for the land that you want?
Bantu people migrated southwards from Cameroon and exterminated the orignal residents in Southern Africa. Did you Bantu people bought the land from the KhoiSan? Go to school ...?
ActionSA 💚 Any party trying to remove your property rights is stupid. They cannot understand basic economics. Are you going to build a factory on government land? I won't! I want a secure title deed before I build!
One of the best interviews on this show! Free decolonized mind right there!! It's time to take back what our martyrs fought for!
The only revolutionary movement of the people. Land First the Rest Shall follow. Izwelethu🖐🏾
Zimbabweans are still waiting for the rest to follow 40 years on.
iAfrika. UAT is with you✊🏾
In rural areas some people own huge pieces of fertile land. It is interesting that these land rhetoric parties are not mobilizing communities to make good use of that land but obsessed with the land that is not in our hands!
Uyishaye khona ndoda....
Welcome back PAC, the party of the African man. Viva PAC, viva!!
Any party that undertakes to return the land into black hands deserves a vote. EFF, PAC & MK must join hands to defeat the imperialists and their local cronies.
Looking at Zimbabwe, you can understand why people are not buying that.
ATM is also a revolutionary political party to be considered in that coalition.
I love you, you're truthful
By far the best interview, the rest of the parties are running away from the mandate and fighting black brothers with hostile foreign policies.
Isn't he also in Parliament??
This is an eye opening interview King. Please bring back PAC for another interview about their policies.
This one was a very interesting conversation I hope that one day or before the elections he can come back and discuss the true history of this nation.
Plz after bring Julius sello malema then after Yvonne chaka chaka plz ❤❤
Icala aliboli. Kanjalo neqiniso alibolo. The PAC will not and cannot die. It is a pursuit of the historical mission led by Sobukwe and the like. It is the only party that left the ANC on ethical and ideological grounds.
What an inspirational interview, keep up the good work King David.
Izwe lethu
😂 1st time seeing this man, and I was just about to skip the interview, but 5minutes later, it's a different story all together. Interesting character. Now I know him
Long Live the PAC
I truly believe what he says. Cancel ministerial appointments. Plus most of them are by law pensioners already but won’t retire. Scrap those posts and dispatch the young supporting employees of those ministers be placed elsewhere. It’s all crazy in government. Duplication of posts , failing healthcare, corrupt policing . Military incompetency, kore ke
nywabese fela. One can say a lot indeed . But how do we rectify this
I was looking for a political home, I think i found it ...VIVA AZANIA✊🏿
You mean VIVA LAND OF THE SLAVES ?????.....Reseach the word ( AZANIA )
How did PAC agree to GNU? You u guys sold out...
I guess MKP is our only hope now.
I think the PAC has a leader in Mzwanele.
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks for great interviews always!
I'm so ashamed to say this, it's rare for me to connect with some guests on South African podcast platforms in general but this one went straight to my heart. There appears to be an air of shallowness or mental instability lurking somewhere within these conversations with particular emphasis on the land, along with a de-contextualised understanding of current events that makes us look crazy to the rest of the world. This wasn't disjointed, impractical nor unreasonable.
I'm happy to say this is one of my favourite interviews conducted that I've seen in the S.A podcast scene!
Mayibuye iAfrica ✊🏽❤🖤💚
Very articulate, intelligent and eloquent man ❤
The same was said about Robert Mugabe until the citizens found out the true Mugabe, the one whose family claimed most of the farms for themselves and cronies. .
Parade APLA forces Parade!! This year Sobukwe will be resurrected.Izwe Lethu!!!!
Izwe Lethu, Azania❤
Sanctions could not stop Zimbabweans from doing subsistence farming but they can't because the land was taken by politicians and family.
David bring President Jacob Zuma we need his wisdom that guy is owing us alot of information.
Wow this TATA knows our struggles from there ground ...I always ask myself where are this smart cities also...
Years of the ANC brainwashing, is the reason why most still vote for the ANC.
Our country was doing well before mbeki was taken out. All our troubles are becasue of Zuma
Izwe lethu🖐🏿🖐🏿🖐🏿
The issue with land boils down to this: no one is born with land. Throughout history, land has always been in the hands of the courageous. If you couldn't defend it, you lost it. Land has consistently shifted up the power hierarchy, from the vulnerable to the powerful, worldwide. Even in many African tribes, those who possess large swathes of land are the ones who conquered numerous others. If you haven't fought and secured your land in the battleground during the state of nature, you can't just expect to claim it in a democratic society. No one will hand you land on a silver platter. Instead of negotiating with the apartheid government, they should have gone to the battlefield and fought for what they claim to be theirs.
I hear you. So you're saying those who are preaching land redistribution should do land grabs by force?
I'm saying that during apartheid, they should have seized the land rather than entering into negotiations. Why push for land redistribution when many illegal African immigrants in South Africa claim to own land in their home countries? Additionally, can a government that's been ineffective in fighting crime, corruption, running schools, maintaining healthcare, and building infrastructure be trusted to redistribute land for the people's benefit rather than their own?
While we have this conversation can we discuss and work on at least 2 of the things I'll list below because after land is taken, it will be war time and regular south Africans are not prepared
1) Controlling a water source and food production/processesing
2) Military training, which includes physical, strategy, weapons and explosives, etc
Fine land can be taken. Are you, we, prepared to fight to the death to keep it. Are we prepared to do everything ourselves render services the government would normally provide to it's citizens because once we have the land we can't be crying talking about we need electricity, infrastructure, clinics if we aren't prepared to build and run those ourselves
For making these points you deserve your own platform. This is the best comment of the show.
No we definitely are not ready, look at our own spaces and communities. Not much is happening
Provinces are just off-loading finace, Britain operates without provincial government, so was the apartheid government. It’s a waste of money.
True leader....good teacher
My father's body was exhumed in Lesotho, Maseru.
Beautiful interview
I still find surprising to see young people voting for the ANC
yoooh its sad indeed
Great one thank you so much. Could you please invite Prof Simphiwe Sesanti for a sit down 🥸
The real liberators of South Africa and unapologetically African
Wonderful ideological display, clear thinking.
What a sober mind
So sorry to hear about the loss of your son.
Viva PAC..EFF..MK ..they are talking the same thing
Eziwa lethu🖐🏿
Im nt a member of PAC.bt Mr Nyontso is spitting facts.❤❤❤
After listening to many other manifestos this is the only leader that talk sense.
Thanks King David, this interview is progressive and very important 🔥💪🏾
But also, we should at one point also address the issue of high alcohol consumption in South Africa, and perhaps the agenda behind it 🤔. We've seen time and time again how the majority black has fallen target to whatever agenda there is, of course in collaboration with other factors 💀👀.
I have an ill-discplined nephew who WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SCORE A JOB. He blows earnings on alcohol. I am not perfect but my nephew is tragically worse. I drink alcohol not though.
Eish the alcohol, sex, drugs is a real pandemic in black communities world wide. I believe there are some sort of social engineering programs behind all of this, steming from long ago until recently
Beautiful conversation ❤❤
When are you calling Julius Malema or Floyd Shivambu?
They dont attend small platforms
*'Embrace the diversity of the country. ' Captain Siya Kolisi.*
No reconciliation without justice. Only after this can we truly embrace diversity.
@@lungamhlongo7366 True
Izwe Lethu ✋️
Poqo ongabethwanga
mayi buye🖐
Tjo...😢i feel sorry for the people led by this man...no vision for future ..still stuck in 1960
Re-train and rehabilitate the police system, the justice system, the educational system the politics and its parliamentary system, and the voting system, with direct elections and constituency representatives.
Xhosa children, on land, are dying from starvation in the ANC Eastern Cape.
Unfortunately they can't EAT the land.
Tlala e tseleng
Enjoyed listening to this
Your mind is stuck in evil 'darkness'!
Liberate your mind from darkness.
Not bo Arise Mzansi and PA about ill informed land issues. PAC and EFF please join one another
Without property rights you have no country.
You are right. But in SA whites appropriated black land without compensation. They had no respect for black property rights.
The problem with PAC is that they just good at talking and lack very much in action!!!
PAC was supposed to replace anc...
M'Afrika Nyhontso was on fire 🔥
Izwe lethu
Mugabe claimed land 24 years back, Good move South African elders ❤❤❤
The PAC is like SACP, both became toothless "DOGS!!!"
🤚
Great interview 🎉
Monganeli
David you seem to defend the status quo in this interview instead of asking and listening
His questions are subjective and seem to be not make sure
Moral regeneration ❤
My president
Probably the shortest conversation david has had on this platform
Solomon Mahlangu didnt die for this.
This diaspora war must be a West Africa thing. I know not a single person in southern part of Africa expressing warlike feelings towards blacks in diaspora
We got no reason to beef with AAs. None whatsoever
viva PAC
The judges on PhalPhal they didn't say *there is a case to answer* they said there *could*...it was not stated as a FACT but a POSSIBILITY 34:16
57:26 nefsas is not a loan
How are you hoping to succeed in doing this?
I don’t understand this point we want the land ok but how are you going to distribute this land I’m sure you have a plan so can you actually explain how you will do this so people could by into this ,I think you wish to be like that white guy who has so much , it would be better to put the end process on the table too
😅😅😅
Ndilapha!
how are you going get ramaphosa or the premiere of eastern cape work on uplifting our little town centane if you talking down on their revenue stream or their party(ANC)if i should say?
how are we going to unlearn everything so far....? in this new Azania
This man is a dreamer. Why not first make the land that is already in black people hands productive?
Ag shame and it NEVER was your land in the first place!!!!
I think your got the wrong strategy
Look at all the land that was already taken and ask yourself with honesty are they productive or just waste land and you're still talking about taking more land .what will happen if everything on the land be taken away and you have only the land left will there be productivity or just only cheap talk like we see for many years. Productive land was taken away and now are laying empty why because it was a forced issue.
Hi all Did you pay for the land because I paid for mine, who gave you the land and what land are you referring to?
Who asked u to pay for land .the land belong to indigenous of this land be reminded
It's illegal to but stolen goods
It’s wild, did those parties get themselves to Parliament? Were they not voted for by people? South Africa has its share of problems but in the whole continent of Africa it has the freest & fairest elections and relatively robust & free media space even the public broadcaster is relatively independent covering opposition programs and negative stories about ruling party. No one is being beaten up or killed to vote a certain way. Why are the people not voting for you the ‘bold’ ones? Could it be they don’t buy into the rhetoric?
Voters in South Africa is mostly influenced by the media narratives, they vote for parties which have more media airtime & footprint & with large campaign budgets, food parcel donations, etc. The average voter is not well vested in politics, land issues, economics. They just want to eat & survive at this point so such parties are nowhere to be seen & they have little following and not much sponsors because of their uncharismatic leaders. On the other hand EFF preaches the same land matter and they've been growing.
Lol, the word "Azania", its an Arabic word that simple means (The LAND OF THE SLAVES) ...........This guy must do his research and stop advertising his ignorance. Yes, the land issue is important to all south African and yes it should be distributed amongst all south Africans and blacks in particular.
Where did your people get the land in the first place?
All land on the planet can be bought:
1. By money
2. By blood
How will YOU pay for the land that you want?
Bantu people migrated southwards from Cameroon and exterminated the orignal residents in Southern Africa.
Did you Bantu people bought the land from the KhoiSan?
Go to school ...?
ANC =👎
EFF=👎
MK=👎
DA=👎
*I guess you cannot read or write ( Logic and common sense tell me what you're saying is BS )*
Talk is cheapt 😅😅😅😅😅
this guy smokes tainted stuff....
I'm glad certain political parties will never even make it to parliament 😂(stupid ideas)
Okay Which one political party has smart ideas and why? I'm listening?
ActionSA 💚
Any party trying to remove your property rights is stupid. They cannot understand basic economics. Are you going to build a factory on government land? I won't! I want a secure title deed before I build!
Avela, yintoni ethukisayo kanene ? Susa hlonipha especially xa ungazi
@@MlokothoLanga8 ndingazi ntoni kanene mkhuluwa?
U spoiling the show by inviting politicians with silly ideologies
It's a public platform, we must hear from people with different ideologies. It's your choice to listen or not to
So Anc sold us vele, I 've voted all this time..
Funny in Zimbabwe the Oppenheimer own one of the biggest farms
Ask yourself why, they know stuff they keeping away