Marmalade - Words of the World
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2024
- Discussing the origins of the word marmalade. How did a Portuguese quince paste served for dessert end up as a citrus based breakfast jam?
Featuring Mark Sabine from the University of Nottingham.
This video was filmed and edited by Sean Riley.
Words of the World is a project by Brady Haran - website at www.wordsoftheworld.co.uk/
See the full list of Brady's video projects at: periodicvideos.blogspot.com/20...
I just can't take this seriously after the ytp
This video is a bit sensuous, and a bit sexy! Well done to Mark Sabine and his interesting information!
So after hearing Mark's honeyed words, I went and bought some lemon marmalade, made some marmalade on toast with a big mug of tea and came back here to report.
I've lived in the UK my whole life, but I've never felt so British as I do now.
marmalade..........a bit sexy.
I found my next YTP victim! >:D
In Spanish, mermelada still refers to any type of jam, not just citric fruits. e.g., "mermelada de fresa" is strawberry jam.
Good Portuguese accent, btw.
1:28
It's a great thing that you guys made a video explaining the history behind marmalade - if someone that looks up to me had asked me about it before today, I would have been in a bit of a jam.
Marmalade
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Jizz
Spelled J - I - Z - Z
I find this video incredibly boring BUTT I think Mark Sabine's a pretty good narrator!
fixed - thanks for spotting it!
Marmalade comes from. Marmalade
That ytp brought me here too. I did find this interesting though... still it also gave me an idea of the effort those three put into the video that just kills me.
I love how much history is wrapped up in each word that is discussed on this channel. Each of these videos is a great starting point for doing a little research and learning something new. This one in particular was completely new for me and very interesting- thanks for making it!
I have to say: this professor's accent when talking in Portuguese is pretty good!
In Austria "Marmelade" is the word for jam.
A few years back there actually was a bit of a controversy where some EU regulation was meant to regulate how the label "Marmelade" should be used. They wanted it to be used the way you seem to use it and use "Konfitüre" for jam. "Konfitüre" sounds very foreign (German) to us and we felt it would be impudence to tell us how we should speak. But in the end nothing happened. We still use Marmelade as we used to (in speech and on products).
the juice jumps into my mouth RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
I really didn't know that marmalade was used in the english language only for citrus based jam. In german we have "Marmelade", which is our word for breakfast jam in general.
I heard a different story of the origin of Marmalade. A Scottish Lord was married to a french lady of high birth. As she was from a more soothing climate she caught a nasty cold from time to time. Her mother had always told her, citrus fruit boiled and sweetened was the best cure for all ails. When her french handmaidens asked for this in the kitchen they said "La dame a malade" Witch means "The lady is ill". Through degradation of language "Marmalade" was to be the commoners name for the treat.
Anyone know if there's a transcript of this video floating about?
Thank you for not saying "Moulon Rouge"
As a Portuguese with British relatives, I find this video very interesting, because I never understood why marmalade doesn't have anything to do with quince.
In 5:51 "estar na marmelada" is more like making out / having sex, at least in my book. and FYI, "marmelos" = breasts (just like "melons" in English).
BTW, Mark Sabine has a good Portuguese pronunciation! :)
Great video. The history and detail reminds me of Good Eats.
anyone else here because of dylancliff111?
Excellent. I love this channel.
I've never tried marmalade, I think I'll have to do that now. You made it sound delicious.
Thanks, you too. I just see too many people assume that their own lack of interest makes something uninteresting in general.
I have a particular interest in linguistics, communication, etymology, theology, and storytelling as well lesser interests in mathematics, science, and what have you. Which makes videos on this channel of interest to me. Even this video. =)
Fascinating!!
Pricey!
Why the fuck is this so interesting? It shouldn't be but it is.
It's 1 AM where I live and this makes me hungry.
I can honestly say I didn't know any of this!
Also I'm really curious to know what's in his "Atlantis" folder.
Totally different circumstances :) I live in the south of Germany and I love sweet stuff on my bread and it could really just be a "southern german thing" that we only say Marmelade. The only time I read those other words is on the packing of jelly/jam/marmalade !
Your portuguese is so good! Amazing video, subscribed :)
Hey I don't know if anyone has ever told you, but you are really cool.
That is interesting. In Poland we have "Marmolada", "Dżem" (Dż - is read like J in English), "Konfitura" (from German is suppose) and "Powidła" and your 'Gelee' (Żel - Ż is read like G in French) is our "Galaretka".
In Spanish the Mermelada is jam (any kind) but they call the solid quince block-thing Membrillo.
Here in austria we call any kind of jam "Marmelade" (english pronounciation: Muhr-may-luh-day).
i read that it is even older in comes from the greek words for quince, melon and honey meli and the ending -ata for a food to mermelata wich they found in some claypots dating back to old rome. portuguese people were the first to useing real sugar and making really a lot of it.
In german language marmelade means everything you would call a jam
You guys should do some names that vary a lot across cultures like John, Peter, etc.
Agreed.
And I would agree. This is a video that interests me, on a channel that interests me. I belong here.
The BBC programme Addicted to Pleasure, Ep.1 is dedicated to sugar. A very good documentary, I recommend it.
Hmm. now i want som som marmalade. yum
It seems that all of them are really good at their languages respectively.
There is an old story on the North Eastern coast of the USA (Choose your area of seaboard) claiming that marmalade was first created by an inveterate jam maker who found a load of Seville oranges washed up ashore in broken crates from a shipwreck. She couldn't bear to allow the ruined fruit go to waste and created marmalade. So the name would be "Marme laid the sugar on". Think of Marme from "Little Women". Untrue, of course but it does serve to sell a lot of marmalade in New England.
Well what do you know, I always thought 'marmalade' came from French. I even heard a story involving something like "Mary est malade" (?) but wow, I've been enlightened, it's actually Portuguese! The more you know ~
I can't help but notice that in the description it reads "desert" instead of "dessert".
Something about a love of unusual pleasures wrapped up in ceremonial stuffiness seems pretty typically English to me... coming from Yorkshire. Also, This guy would be great to have a cup of tea with!
I know how it is. My sister twiddles her thumbs two days a week at MIT. A brother teaches history at a select college. Me, I'm a nurse. There is no glory or intellectual joy to be had in comparison to them.
Hi Lola, I'm not feeling as egotistical as I did yesterday, sorry if I offended, I guess this channel is ok, but my main interests are pure and applied mathematics and theoretical physics. Philosophy is great! If you think you are something, an independent self-existence, it is troubling to discover that at your centre is no-thing, you then might realize this is the very nature of everything. Also a result of quantum mechanics ;) Have a great one, David.
Actually whether or not one is intelligent is almost never a question worth reflecting upon. And what, may I ask, is the problem exactly with being impressed by trivial things? It contributes to the enjoyment of life.
It's ok you can calm down now I'm not feeling as egotistical as I did yesterday, its not a bad channel, it passes a bit of time and adds a little to your knowledge. It's great to see someone fight for what they love, so yes, nice set of defensive emails yesterday pkemrin old chap, well done! Have a great one - David.
can we get a video on the origins of "sarcasm"?
:) Yes, you're right.
I don't speak French, but I wouldn't consider the phrase from "Lady Marmelade" so dirty that I'd be unwilling to translate it. Obviously it is suggestive, but it has no "bad words". I'm not sure why he wasn't willing to say that it means "do you want to sleep with me tonight".
Here we use the word Mamelada as fiasco.
Like; "They bailed out some criminals from fail!? What a marmelada!"
Yes, my dear, with pleasure. ;)
It's a strangely incongruent world if you take into account that it actually is of better quality than Konfitüre (higher fruit content), but the word has an appeal just like "cardboard".
I always thought since a kid that its origin was British India. Instead a different story still interesting but I would say just as dark as my older self would expect it to have been.
Same in Germany. The first thing that comes to my mind if i hear the word "Marmelade" is strawberry.
At least now you can be confit in the knowledge that if you need the information, you'll have it.
Do one in tea!
Yes I have had that comment a few times I must admit, it does take a lot of courage to stand up for what you honestly see and have the guts to speak your opinion, even though all the 'sheep' baa against you. I like Brady's other channels but my oh my this thing is boring !! I bet this guy has a real paid university job as well, geez !!
But at least Konfitüre isn't used colloquially.
Legally only jam made of citrus fruit may be called Marmelade, but most people would deem you a litle strange, if you said "Reich mir mal die Erdbeer-Konfitüre" at the breakfast table.
Oh, and going into legalims: there's "Fruchtaufstrich", too.
Have a nice day! I hope you find more entertainment in other channels.
I guess it was a story meant to make marmalade a bit more interesting for me as a young boy :D
At the same time, if I seemed like a know-it-all, people would get jelly of my knowledge.
hahahaha OMG I'm brazilian and the yesterday me and my mom were talking about this. We were talking about something and my mom said "isso é marmelada" (wich would be a slang for this is a lie (bullsh**) and I asked her what REALLY was marmelada and she said it comes from marmelo I asked her what was marmelo and she didnt knew...Now I know!
I've never drunk marmalade with tea and I don't know anyone who has.
Instead of peanut butter an jelly sandwiches I eat almond butter and marmalade sandwiches.
Hard 'S'es here
Isto tudo indica que os portugueses são bons a fazer marmelada?! =)
It would be hard to preserve your reputation?
In German every jam is called Marmelade.
Paddington Bear!!!
I really hope I dont see u in any upcoming wotw vids dave. I like this channel, and i loved this episode. trivial is only a matter of opinion, and all opinions are equal and valid. I hope u have clicked the unsub button and arent just teasing me.
Very jealous! His starting salary is around £40k, I would love that job, I would never get bored ;)
Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir, means: Do you want to sleep with me tonight? in French. Lady Marmalade might be taken as "Lady lay me", but only at a stretch.
yup
For Germans everything, jelly, jam and marmalade are called "Marmelade" ... :)
Didn't know he is Portuguese, sorry.
Can you do the word 'amateur'? I just like that etymologically it's someone who loves their job, but it's also got derogatory connotations and stuff. And the fact that it implies not getting paid now sort of speaks of our culturewide frustration with wage labor (communism ftw).
hey its the ginger guy from modern family.
Imagine what would happen if they encountered the real world! Some people seem to just fall into these cushy jobs don't they, my brother is a part time GP on £50k, and he only works Thursdays and Fridays, me I'm a bus driver, def no glory fighting through traffic every morning and evening !! That's why I don't have any time for the origins of fucking marmalade !!
Related video: A Bit of Fry and Laurie -- Pass the Marmalade.
Fruchtaufstrich ^^
That would sound weeeiiiird :D
"Kannst du mir mal den Fruchtaufstrich geben ?"
Yes, but Marmelade came from the portuguese marmelada
Well, yeah. But nobody really uses these words.
I appreciate not being condescended to, so thanks for that. I'm sorry, that was sarcastic, but to be honest you're not putting me in a great mood. Not your fault nor your problem.
If you delve enough into philosophy you'll realize that nothing is of any real consequence, so why should we not take enjoyment when we can? Answer me that. I'm sorry that you can't find amusement in these trivial things; it must be difficult to find something important enough to make you happy.
Do you eat Vegemite also?
The etymology of the word "marmalade" is incomplete and therefore inaccurate:
marmelade < (portuguese) marmelada < marmelo < (latin) melimelum [-mélum] < (hellenistic greek) μελίμηλον, ie quince < μέλι + μήλον (honey + apple)
Check a decent lexicon (such as oxford, webster, etymology-online) or a Greek etymology lexicon (e.g. G.Babiniotis - Etymology Lexicon).
And please don't think world history is significant only for the last four or five centuries.
They're pulling your plonker, mate! haha.
I have a right to my opinion just as you do. I also have a right to express my opinion. This channel is a dud, in my opinion, compared to Brady's other channels, that are more academically challenging. I suspect you are not an intelligent chap, impressed by, well, trivial things in life. A question worth asking and reflecting upon.
I'll marmalise you!
(Why no mention of that derivitive? Does it deserve a slot all its own?)
Jealous? He probably does.
If you're bored, don't watch. Some of us find these videos interesting...
HA
Ses (?)
Haha, I think you definitely belong here lol