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  • In an exclusive interview with NewsNation, a friend of one of the suspects charged with the murder of the missing Kansas moms said he was shocked by the killings. Vincent Forbes, a local municipal court judge who says he’s a friend of suspect Tad Cullum, 43, expressed disbelief at the unfolding events. NewsNation national correspondent Brian Entin tells NewsNation's
    Ashleigh Banfield that since speaking out, Forbes has now been forced to resign.
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  • @debl9957
    @debl9957 Před měsícem +676

    This is what journalism used to be - thank you!

    • @DeeLite220
      @DeeLite220 Před měsícem +53

      Really got to hand it to them. But also hope they stay safe. If the locals are afraid to talk.. you know? Creepy.

    • @EASTSIDERIDER707
      @EASTSIDERIDER707 Před měsícem +26

      It’s these smaller news outlets may be the last gasp of truth.

    • @darlenemitchell5402
      @darlenemitchell5402 Před měsícem +10

      Exactly

    • @thedude4594
      @thedude4594 Před měsícem +7

      They got an old man fired for no reason.

    • @darlenemitchell5402
      @darlenemitchell5402 Před měsícem +8

      @@thedude4594 but I’m not going to let up on this guy just because he Says he didn’t really know they people were capable of of such horrible acts Because if the whole town knows and are scared of these people , he surly had to know Something wasn’t right about all them people . He has enough smarts to hold that position/college he has to have a tad bit knowledge of peoples true self/Character.

  • @stormrunner0029
    @stormrunner0029 Před měsícem +552

    Not pointing any fingers,but if anything is going on in a small community, the Mayor usually knows about it.

  • @asthecrowflies737
    @asthecrowflies737 Před měsícem +174

    Time to question the Mayor. Telling the judge he had to resign is suspicious in and of itself.

  • @johnmacdonald1878
    @johnmacdonald1878 Před měsícem +541

    maybe the mayor should resign

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Před měsícem +44

      I was just thinking the mayor probably is madder than a wet hornet now because the judge was shooting off his mouth. And is afraid of what else he might say to God knows who.. I detect a made for TV movie to come from this...

    • @susivarga7303
      @susivarga7303 Před měsícem

      Netflix already called a writers' meeting ​@@PK-bh1ww

    • @susanpurdy986
      @susanpurdy986 Před měsícem +15

      ​@@PK-bh1wwI'd watch it 😮

    • @brenda4085
      @brenda4085 Před měsícem +25

      Honestly it was stupid of the judge to comment it makes them look bad so I kind of understand. It's a conflict of interest for sure.

    • @SoundofSilence492
      @SoundofSilence492 Před měsícem +24

      @@brenda4085 Judge was between a rock and a hard spot. The interview was an effort to clear his name and distance himself from the perpetrators to the community at large. They all know each other, and had to have known he had business dealings. I think he was gonna take a fall anyway. Who would trust him if he hadn’t spoken up? Murderers for the most part are pretty stupid because they have obvious emotional ties to their victims. What third grader couldn’t have figured this out? How did they think they would ever get away with it? I hope the mom’s family lives far away and is able to get her children out of that hellhole; that they don’t wind up in foster care on top of everything else.

  • @lorenheard2561
    @lorenheard2561 Před měsícem +350

    Maybe the Mayor needs to be looked into.... Suspicious to me...Getting rid of the Judge..

    • @suzanneflowers2230
      @suzanneflowers2230 Před měsícem +17

      Me, too. The judge said nothing inappropriate.

    • @justzev
      @justzev Před měsícem +13

      yeah, that's really suspicious. i work in the legal system in a state with lots of small rural communities, and of course judges know people within their communities - they went to high school with them, they were their lawyer before they were a judge, they coached their kids in little league, they were business partners, etc. normal protocol is just to recuse themselves from cases involving people they personally know in order to avoid conflicts of interest. you don't just force the judges out or we'd have no judges left.

    • @justzev
      @justzev Před měsícem

      @@CorinnaCarrillo-ps2zc oh, look, another 12 year old in the youtube comment section. that's new. 🙄

    • @Lavendernoctem
      @Lavendernoctem Před měsícem +2

      Trust me that judge had it coming, it was MUCH more than the interview, he was VERY corrupt and it was bound to happen with or without the interview. The Mayor did the right thing and is a great guy who is protecting his community. I have been around both individuals and if I had to choose one to trust, it would be the mayor. I’m not from the town, but I visit there often and know many who live there.

    • @bbe3034
      @bbe3034 Před měsícem

      The judge is he guy who gave the children to the murderer, the grandmother!!

  • @waupfoo
    @waupfoo Před měsícem +450

    This reporter here is the goat, interview in the car and asked some good questions👍👍👍👍👍Now the judge is out! Wow

    • @mothernature8893
      @mothernature8893 Před měsícem +61

      Maybe they need to look into the mayor.

    • @drowe2
      @drowe2 Před měsícem +46

      Brian Entin rocks! He’s been involved in many national incidents out of Idaho - UofI massacre, Lori Vallow, and even the Watts case from colorado

    • @JK-lp6uw
      @JK-lp6uw Před měsícem +3

      ​@@mothernature8893why??
      Get a grip. Ya'll starting to slip further into the abyss of idiocy.

    • @Grammie-hk5vb
      @Grammie-hk5vb Před měsícem +10

      Please tell me what "goat" means I see it all the time and don't know. 🌹

    • @nogames8982
      @nogames8982 Před měsícem +18

      @@Grammie-hk5vb greatest of all time

  • @deedsterdoo1603
    @deedsterdoo1603 Před měsícem +341

    I certainly hope there is more to learn about why the judge had to resign over a mere interview. Perhaps there is more to come...

    • @kathyauwarter5057
      @kathyauwarter5057 Před měsícem +72

      The judge is my cousin. He is the judge in a town not connected. However, him being involved at all with Tad is what the community is angry about. You just DONT admit that kind of thing in these small communities

    • @AM1999
      @AM1999 Před měsícem +19

      @@kathyauwarter5057 was he involved with the custody case?

    • @bbloodyangel1
      @bbloodyangel1 Před měsícem +72

      courts dont want a judge whos on tv talking about what a good friend a murderer is

    • @coleengogerty3852
      @coleengogerty3852 Před měsícem +1

      ⁠@@bambooprincess3495sorry but that’s a load of nonsense. There is zero evidence to support the idea that a judge can’t be effective because someone he thought he knew decided to be an evil monster and murder two women. The only person being honest in that area Is The Judge. He didn’t violate any oath nor did he do anything illegal. His name will be in the public records because he happened to be there at the time of the FBI raid. So his name was going to be or was already out there. Sure he could say no comment. But perhaps he felt compelled to tell the truth of what he knew. I guess you all would prefer him to keep secrets about those murderers instead of help get them justice. Your thought process is completely backwards. A judge stands for justice and truth and this judge is doing just that.

    • @coleengogerty3852
      @coleengogerty3852 Před měsícem +50

      @@bbloodyangel1no people don’t want to hear the truth and would rather hide and keep secrets. As a judge he felt compelled to be honest and instead he gets accused of being the bad guy. Your narrative is completely backwards. He didn’t defend the actions at all.

  • @user-ip9bh1lp6o
    @user-ip9bh1lp6o Před měsícem +475

    That Mayor sure acts like he is involved.

    • @whitneyweber6404
      @whitneyweber6404 Před měsícem

      No. The judge is the one who was friends with the murderers. The mayor now wants judge to resign after talking to media publicly.

    • @HiltonHoskins
      @HiltonHoskins Před měsícem

      I wouldn't be surprised. Cults have been known to encourage their members to get government positions.

    • @kevinbarry3548
      @kevinbarry3548 Před měsícem +31

      What's the Mayor trying to hide?

    • @jameskemp8287
      @jameskemp8287 Před měsícem

      Sounds like Mayor is in the cult. I mean how he get elected Mayor in the first place... in a town where everyone is afraid of the cult... wouldn't the cult put this guy as the Mayor? OR have I watched too much true crime shows. Lol

    • @mattg4836
      @mattg4836 Před měsícem +3

      I thought the exact opposite

  • @curly__3
    @curly__3 Před měsícem +333

    Shows you how legitimate our court systems are... Especially our local and state courts.

    • @joansmith6844
      @joansmith6844 Před měsícem +12

      @@bambooprincess3495that’s because there’s many more like him in that court system they don’t want fingers pointing at them now .. go em all .. they all need to resign open up that case of worms .. like A ) Veronica lawyer seems like a blow over dumb sht

    • @JK-lp6uw
      @JK-lp6uw Před měsícem +3

      ​@@joansmith6844you have all the answers. Don't be shallow or judgemental.

    • @SirNic4180
      @SirNic4180 Před měsícem

      Working as design.

    • @SirNic4180
      @SirNic4180 Před měsícem

      ​@@JK-lp6uwKaren is mad.

    • @TheArcadeLink
      @TheArcadeLink Před měsícem +8

      I do not think he would have been removed, if this interaction hadn't been recorded.

  • @lindakato8583
    @lindakato8583 Před měsícem +144

    No wonder people were afraid of talking about this case when even the judge was cozy with them.

    • @justicedenyd
      @justicedenyd Před měsícem +18

      ​@@Plutogalaxy Let's not be naive. He's still a judge and no doubt has connections with others who are in power within the judicial system and law enforcement and business. Small town good ole boys network.

    • @aliciaa5894
      @aliciaa5894 Před měsícem +1

      Exactly. This must be how the grandma got info on the other judge

    • @joanevans7034
      @joanevans7034 Před měsícem

      @@justicedenyd Yep.

  • @bbloodyangel1
    @bbloodyangel1 Před měsícem +137

    I mean the judge was there at his house and then later said "this IS my friend" after the dude was arrested for murder.... dude

    • @naturistfred
      @naturistfred Před měsícem +17

      Was he forced to resign because they suspect he's more involved than he lets on? Could be.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome Před měsícem +4

      Judges cousin comments above small towns don't like that he revealed his association with Tad it destroyed his credibility.

    • @bagramdave883
      @bagramdave883 Před 21 dnem

      It’s not illegal to be a friend of an accused murderer. Ask ALL the Clinton’s friends and donors.

  • @djjohnson9422
    @djjohnson9422 Před měsícem +29

    Perhaps the Mayor who asked for the Judge's resignation should be investigated?

  • @SandraBlanton-vn3mh
    @SandraBlanton-vn3mh Před měsícem +208

    Oh! I knew the judge was full of crap. In a small town people know. He is trying to save his butt. People are scared. They know things. Took a brave 16yr. to turn this around. Hope she finds a new life with happiness.

    • @reformcongress
      @reformcongress Před měsícem +16

      The people arrested didn't live in the town or even in the same state the judge lives.

    • @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316
      @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316 Před měsícem +21

      Absolutely agreed, their is no way in a small town where everyone knows everything about you , and judge knows nothing!! Doesn’t pass the smell test!!!

    • @joanevans7034
      @joanevans7034 Před měsícem +13

      @@reformcongress But he did business with the suspects and was at the house when it was raided by the FBI?

    • @donniedickerson8077
      @donniedickerson8077 Před měsícem +7

      Everybody likely knows more about These people than is being talked in public , in small town USA everybody hears things, I live in a small town USA, Gossip is the public grapevine

    • @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316
      @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316 Před měsícem +4

      @@donniedickerson8077 Agreed

  • @leelaural
    @leelaural Před měsícem +321

    sounds like good ol boy network.....

    • @steveb8306
      @steveb8306 Před měsícem +9

      I can hear the banjos playing 😂

    • @lulubells930
      @lulubells930 Před měsícem

      Good ole boys exist in every town, city, state… everywhere! It’s pretty impossible for justice when you have lying cops, judges, lawyers, etc. Even when you have witnesses about something… it doesn’t matter. We lose. 😢

    • @mr.b3591
      @mr.b3591 Před měsícem +11

      Its thick... do a DNA and 90% town related

    • @happydayz7857
      @happydayz7857 Před měsícem

      Welcome to Oklahoma. You’re stepping back into a very barbaric era.

  • @Rael_486
    @Rael_486 Před měsícem +80

    Is the judge aware of his right to remain silent. 🤔

  • @larlar8580
    @larlar8580 Před měsícem +70

    Thank heavens for Brian…honest and good reporting - great journalist!!!

    • @RANGERS.FC.
      @RANGERS.FC. Před měsícem +2

      really you think hes honest loool

    • @larlar8580
      @larlar8580 Před měsícem +3

      @@RANGERS.FC. - yes, I think Brian is honest. I think he genuinely cares about the victims and their families…he even corrected another New Nation reporter who was trying to infer things that weren’t true.

  • @water2wine1
    @water2wine1 Před měsícem +65

    This reminds me of that case in Ohio where a bunch of family members were murdered in their beds. It was over a custody of a baby and peculiar religious beliefs.

    • @lindajoyner8231
      @lindajoyner8231 Před měsícem +4

      Are you talking about the Pike County murders? Horrific case! And, it was the grandmother that pushed for the murders in that case. I'm still waiting for the trial of the grandfather.

    • @cf2993
      @cf2993 Před měsícem +4

      @@lindajoyner8231 Billy Wagner's trial is continued until January 6th, 2025. I'm not holding my breath for the trial to start on the new date.

  • @edilsarg5028
    @edilsarg5028 Před měsícem +92

    That reporter is the goat and deserves a raise plus paid vacation to the Bahamas or Hawaii. That interview in the car is going to change many lives.

    •  Před měsícem +6

      overstatement of the year, congrats

    • @sandyfields678
      @sandyfields678 Před měsícem

      Bahamas not good,,c4iminal element tak8ng over,,go els22here,,daytona bch,usa

  • @katewoolf6059
    @katewoolf6059 Před měsícem +51

    This small area is corrupt af

    • @christinemarie5623
      @christinemarie5623 Před měsícem +6

      I grew up in one small community and those 4 mug shots look like the shady people that skulked around our small town, happy I left 40 years ago

    • @woodsrdr
      @woodsrdr Před měsícem +1

      Most are. Small towns are usually ruled as an oligarchy. Occasionally they are completely benevolent. Far more often than not, corruption runs rampant.

  • @Snargfargle
    @Snargfargle Před měsícem +39

    People here need to realize that the position of municipal judge in Kansas is barely a legal position at all. All you have to do is take a two-day course once a year and pass a short test. Municipal judges deal only with minor things like town ordinance infractions and parking tickets.

    • @Tipperary757
      @Tipperary757 Před měsícem +3

      Yes, true, thank you for mentioning this. Not a high-level position.

    • @stacytw79
      @stacytw79 Před měsícem +2

      So he doesn’t have his Juris Doctorate??

    • @coolcougar
      @coolcougar Před měsícem +4

      This judge was in OK, not KS.

    • @ssg558
      @ssg558 Před měsícem +1

      @@coolcougarNo, he was in Kansas

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove Před měsícem

      You don't need a law degree to be that type of 'judge'?

  • @ES-7766
    @ES-7766 Před měsícem +24

    I grew up in a small town. There’s was so much corruption there. The same people and families were in charge for literally decades until some locals decided to take the town back by exposing things they were doing.

  • @byergo
    @byergo Před měsícem +288

    The FBI needs to take this Judge in for interrogation.

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Před měsícem +39

      I think he's shady as H. And it wouldn' t surprise me if he was the judge that granted the kids Dad and gramma the custody rights when she lied about their being a molester in the Mother's family. I think a lot more is going to come out about all those in that area. It was the Twombly's daughter that snitched on her parents.

    • @Chulitatr
      @Chulitatr Před měsícem +12

      For what, he resigned as disciplined.

    • @reformcongress
      @reformcongress Před měsícem +23

      @@PK-bh1ww He wasn't that judge. He is a municipal judge in Elkhart, KS.

    • @atiqrahman7289
      @atiqrahman7289 Před měsícem +11

      Blaming JUDGE is a bit too much --- how often really such murders ocurr. Also, not definite at this time that the court really decided about a particular site where children should be brought in????

    • @teamcougars
      @teamcougars Před měsícem +20

      On what grounds should the judge be taken in for interrogation?🤦‍♀️

  • @catalinacleoferohm6405
    @catalinacleoferohm6405 Před měsícem +16

    When people are afraid to talk, something fishy is going on.😱

  • @shondrawhite9317
    @shondrawhite9317 Před měsícem +127

    Poor judge ?. I wonder how those mothers felt, looking down barrels of weapons, tasers and hammers.... Shame on that judge. RIP 🕯️🕯️

    • @aoife984
      @aoife984 Před měsícem +17

      Yeah the poor judge! What are you part of the cult? This man has stepped up to tell his truth and has been forced out of his job for speaking up. Maybe you should re-listen, blame the Mayor instead of the judge and quit the cult you must belong to.

    • @glendaarbuckle5570
      @glendaarbuckle5570 Před měsícem +17

      Yes, poor judge. The MAYOR should be investigated. Shame on that mayor. There was nothing untoward with this interview, yet the mayor asked the judge to resign. You should listen to the interview again. Why was the mayor so quick and intent on asking the judge to resign so soon after the interview. Why are you defending the mayor and slamming the judge?

    • @brenda4085
      @brenda4085 Před měsícem +8

      The two have nothing to do with each other. Shame on him? For what?

    • @PeachysMom
      @PeachysMom Před měsícem +7

      I got the vibe he is lying about how much he kniws

    • @whobeyou5342
      @whobeyou5342 Před měsícem +3

      Exactly. Sounds like an old man trying to play victim- i wouldn't doubt that he knows more than he's letting on about this guy.

  • @xyz5765
    @xyz5765 Před měsícem +38

    Maybe the mayor had something to hide?

    • @donlum9128
      @donlum9128 Před měsícem +5

      Maybe the Mayor didn't want an idiot for a judge.

  • @heathermatuzak4417
    @heathermatuzak4417 Před měsícem +10

    What a kind and sensible man this judge seems to be. The locals might want to take a closer look at their mayor!

  • @redgingerbreadpam
    @redgingerbreadpam Před měsícem +127

    Just goes to show...you thought Tad was your good friend. You never even really knew him evidently.
    And what kind of "business" were y'all involved in?

    • @redgingerbreadpam
      @redgingerbreadpam Před měsícem +9

      @@abjamez thanks for that information

    • @lr8607
      @lr8607 Před měsícem +12

      Sounds like the judge knew good old Tad was in the cult business, together with his girlfriend Tiffany.

    • @AmyBethB
      @AmyBethB Před měsícem +2

      ​@@abjamez what is the name of the business?

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove Před měsícem +4

      @@abjamez Where would a guy like Tad get the money for that?

    • @Torchlakegirl
      @Torchlakegirl Před měsícem +3

      @@MsJellyBellyLove seriously! Doesn’t look like the guy can even afford a comb.

  • @faithhupy4983
    @faithhupy4983 Před měsícem +37

    I don't think he was let go just for talking I think he was let go because you're a judge you're in the middle of this situation you didn't know that they were in a cult but yet you hang around with them every day I don't think it was him being interviewed I think it was what was said during the interview that got him to be asked to resign the first time I saw the interview I thought right away what kind of a judge is this

  • @heavenleeangeltalk8471
    @heavenleeangeltalk8471 Před měsícem +44

    Brian Entin is our national treasure 🌟

  • @dorettasdozen8537
    @dorettasdozen8537 Před měsícem +32

    Be careful while you are there.

  • @Peter-kk6rg
    @Peter-kk6rg Před měsícem +48

    What type of business is the Judge envoled in.

    • @Joe_Brown99
      @Joe_Brown99 Před měsícem +6

      Drugs

    • @ItzMzJulez2U
      @ItzMzJulez2U Před měsícem +7

      I’m definately curious as well.

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Před měsícem +3

      @@ItzMzJulez2U A Judge working in the weekend.

    • @ItzMzJulez2U
      @ItzMzJulez2U Před měsícem +21

      Somethin definitely sus. If he was in Vietnam, why ain’t he sleepin late and enjoying military/retirement benefits?
      And seriously, Tad as a ‘business partner?’
      Small town Oklahoma, municipal judge, and he’s clueless about the cult that his business partner is part of…AND happened to be at his house when he was arrested? Dude, I got questions!😳😬

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Před měsícem +3

      Either "funny or monkey business"....

  • @Chrissy0316
    @Chrissy0316 Před měsícem +125

    He was coincidentally there…. I call BS!!! A Judge doing business on a Saturday…

    • @jessicalubien5424
      @jessicalubien5424 Před měsícem +12

      Exactly!

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Před měsícem +6

      Smart

    • @grahamcomer4302
      @grahamcomer4302 Před měsícem +15

      It was a separate business

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Před měsícem

      And as they say "birds of a feather..." Seriously why would a judge hang out with an anti government cult leader unless they were like minded?

    • @lorenheard2561
      @lorenheard2561 Před měsícem +13

      You don't believe in separate enterprises besides your career!? It CAN happen to anyone... Getting involved with dangerous people who end up not being the friendly people you thought they were!!🤨🧐

  • @maureenfrancis8902
    @maureenfrancis8902 Před měsícem +47

    Oh he sounds full of it. He never heard of it??

    • @guymerritt4860
      @guymerritt4860 Před měsícem +2

      I've seen that comment from a lot of people. Hell, maybe he hadn't ever heard of it - who knows?

    • @gypsyscometotown
      @gypsyscometotown Před měsícem +11

      @@guymerritt4860
      The whole community knew about their “religion” & were scared of them, but the Judge is clueless🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @guymerritt4860
      @guymerritt4860 Před měsícem +5

      @@gypsyscometotown Well maybe you know a lot more about it than me - seriously. This guy just struck me as an honest - if naive - guy. And maybe he knew all about it and he's just a convincing liar. Didn't seem like he had a clue, to me.

    • @patrickoryan6361
      @patrickoryan6361 Před měsícem +2

      ​@gypsyscometotown the judge isn't from the community he lives in kansas and judge in kansas the suspects all live in oklahoma

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 Před měsícem

      200 IQ play, imo

  • @jamesclark9347
    @jamesclark9347 Před měsícem +41

    The mayor is the cult leader IMO!

  • @desiraecapelo7442
    @desiraecapelo7442 Před měsícem +53

    Lock the judge and the mayor up this is corrupt at its finest

  • @VeeAmericanEagle
    @VeeAmericanEagle Před měsícem +27

    Brian Entin is the GOAT!

  • @user-mj1lh1iy4x
    @user-mj1lh1iy4x Před měsícem +12

    How does an interview lead to a judge being forced to resign? Something is just not right here. There is lots more here than meets the eye.

    • @tomv5988
      @tomv5988 Před měsícem +2

      Idk but I think the judge was honest about the suspects.
      He really didn't know about the cult, but he mention how one was out in left field.

  • @panthira2240
    @panthira2240 Před měsícem +46

    I'm having a similar situation with judges and ex inlaws here. There's a level of corruption in the county I'm in (Yolo County, CA), and the judges and other county workers are dirty AF. They've done horrific things to me and my kids. My life has been threatened, but no one will listen or do anything about it.
    Judges and cops should not have qualified immunity.

  • @gayemarianesfox2405
    @gayemarianesfox2405 Před měsícem +71

    It’s horrible these two women were killed but between that and the girl CW it’s exposing this horrible situation. You can’t tell me the judge didn’t know about this.

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Před měsícem +3

      Guilty

    • @angelafrench2328
      @angelafrench2328 Před měsícem +4

      Then again Judge said he’s spent a mth the last mth w dude, also!!? 😮

    • @pppopai
      @pppopai Před měsícem +7

      Judge trying to cover his but cause he was there during the raid but why do a damn interview looking real suspicious

    • @SirNic4180
      @SirNic4180 Před měsícem

      So no DEI? No CRT? No BLM? No Chicago? Affirmative Action?

    • @pattijack
      @pattijack Před měsícem +3

      @@pppopai…can you imagine if that were you and you are innocent and it was because it was people you know? It does happen! Even when the Menendez brothers murdered their parents, no one thought they would do that BUT THEY DID!!

  • @ecbrent2
    @ecbrent2 Před měsícem +10

    I guess that means the former judge is free to say whatever the hell he wants to now.

  • @maryannegunter115
    @maryannegunter115 Před měsícem +18

    That 'judge' is so full of manure, he's disgusting. I'm pretty sure he's as crooked as the others. It's sad to see people like this that can make decisions for other people. I'm glad to hear he was forced to resign, he doesn't deserve a position of judge. You all know that he'd heard of the misfits, probably one himself.

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 Před měsícem

      YES, *_Guilt by Association_* right, Comrade Mary !!! ...All this *_Presumption of Innocent_* is BS to protect these Criminals !!!

  • @ItsAllOptics
    @ItsAllOptics Před měsícem +14

    For all those feeling so sorry for the judge, take some time and look up the multiple criminal/illegal situations he's be in through the past, don't assume he's a pretty spring flower with a heavenly scent. He himself is corrupt.

  • @machelleowens5767
    @machelleowens5767 Před měsícem +79

    Small town so everybody knows everyone's business. Judge is full of it and probably shady.

    • @kathyauwarter5057
      @kathyauwarter5057 Před měsícem +12

      He is my cousin. He is NOT shady. Just made a dumb decision to go in tv. Elkhart is a very small community and any negative publicity will get you shunned

    • @machelleowens5767
      @machelleowens5767 Před měsícem +14

      @@kathyauwarter5057 He may not be shady but his friend sure was.. As the saying goes, guilt by association.

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree Před měsícem +6

      @@machelleowens5767 Sad that it is that way, but it is. Nobody knows everything about everyone. That group could've told his friend/judge that he was so sad about those women missing, etc. Judge seemed legit to me

    • @machelleowens5767
      @machelleowens5767 Před měsícem

      @@mmhthree I've lived in small towns my whole life and everyone knows everybody's business, including, their dirty laundry. These people are feared by their community and Tad has weapons charges and is anti government. The association is completely off and very strange for being a judge in a small community.

    • @JustAKiwi2020
      @JustAKiwi2020 Před měsícem +2

      @@machelleowens5767do you subscribe to the idea of guilt by association? So you don’t ever talk to or befriend anyone that does anything wrong I assume? No friends that do drugs? None that do dumb stuff sometimes? 🤨. You seem so eager to cut this guy down and you obviously want to make him part of the story as if he did something wrong 🤦‍♀️

  • @MeOhMyOh2324
    @MeOhMyOh2324 Před měsícem +16

    Time to interview that mayor!

  • @vanessalewis1023
    @vanessalewis1023 Před měsícem +37

    Should probably choose your friends better old chap.

    • @tealblue4987
      @tealblue4987 Před měsícem

      There's hardly anyone there though. It's small. Sorry, I'm getting too involved but wow. wth. the terror in that town.

    • @vanessalewis1023
      @vanessalewis1023 Před měsícem

      @@tealblue4987 i definitely think he needs to quit flopping his beak in interviews.

  • @sheilathailand1903
    @sheilathailand1903 Před měsícem +28

    It's like Prairie Deliverance.

    • @ItzMzJulez2U
      @ItzMzJulez2U Před měsícem +1

      You’re not wrong!

    • @edenrose9395
      @edenrose9395 Před měsícem

      😂

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Před měsícem

      There's a lot more of those little clusters of antis all over America. But I think more in the South they get away with owning towns. They're small towns in vast wide open areas, "No man's land " they call areas like that. I don't see much of that "cult owning" in my area up North.

  • @mountaineermama8052
    @mountaineermama8052 Před měsícem +5

    There is NO ONE better to cover this case than Brian Entin!!!

  • @joshbutler8147
    @joshbutler8147 Před měsícem +5

    That reporter needs protection.

  • @Bluemoonofky
    @Bluemoonofky Před měsícem +16

    Oh, my GOD! This is nightmare fuel! All of it!

    • @TJ-id6ee
      @TJ-id6ee Před měsícem

      Watching some of the footage out in the country there brings back memories of the old movies"Texas chainsaw massacre" and Deliverance. Scary!

  • @bobbib3836
    @bobbib3836 Před měsícem +27

    The governor needs to step up & straighten out that town of “misfits” including the judge & mayor. What a disgrace!

    • @raygunsforronnie847
      @raygunsforronnie847 Před měsícem +1

      In Oklahoma, religion is treated... religiously, but mostly only if it is some flavor of 'christianity.' In the minds of most Oklahomans, killing in the name of one's christian religion is okay.

    • @stacytw79
      @stacytw79 Před měsícem +2

      @@raygunsforronnie847 Not true “in most Oklahomans”.!

    • @TMann-eg1gi
      @TMann-eg1gi Před měsícem +1

      Well, the Municipal Judge is in Kansas. The murders (and the legal proceedings concerning the murders) are in Oklahoma. So, do you want the Oklahoma Governor telling Kansas mayors and judges how to run their business? I’m sure they’d tell him to take a hike.

  • @marthawoodworth
    @marthawoodworth Před měsícem +142

    I disagree, Ashleigh. As a judge, he should have known better than to talk about ANYTHING he knows about these people to a reporter.

    • @Peter-kk6rg
      @Peter-kk6rg Před měsícem +10

      The Judge knows alot more,and you would not lose your job.

    • @lr8607
      @lr8607 Před měsícem +21

      Come on. This "judge" lost his appointment to the bench because he was engaged in an outside business with a guy who is in a cult that murdered two people.

    • @verily360
      @verily360 Před měsícem +4

      Trying to say I'm innocent because I'm admitting this

    • @user-hh7bc1uq9w
      @user-hh7bc1uq9w Před měsícem +1

      ❤​@@Peter-kk6rg

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Před měsícem +2

      He just worried about his skin

  • @robertakaiser9631
    @robertakaiser9631 Před měsícem +18

    Small town corruption

  • @onesolvedmystery2274
    @onesolvedmystery2274 Před měsícem +34

    SO This Judge Has Been "Doing Business" With This Suspect for Around A Month, Was At His House When It Was Raided, & Knew He Was "Very Anti-Government", But Thought It Was A Good Idea To Do An Interview WIth News Nation Giving Him A Character Reference. Probably Not The Smartest Thing To Do, Especially For A Judge !!!!

    • @georgeworthmore
      @georgeworthmore Před měsícem +5

      no kiddin

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Před měsícem +1

      Can't fix stupid 😅😅😅

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 Před měsícem

      Hearsay is not admissible in Court: As he clearly said that he did NOT have prior knowledge of the Cult or their beliefs, but later learned about it from others.

  • @naturistfred
    @naturistfred Před měsícem +15

    Brian get inside before you catch a cold. We adore you.

  • @danielleragin1306
    @danielleragin1306 Před měsícem +5

    The judge said they’ve been working together the past month… hmmmm 🙄🙄he doesn’t know he was in the cult either… I call BS!!

  • @BelleWhittington
    @BelleWhittington Před měsícem +13

    Brian is great! I always enjoy his reporting.

  • @larrylezon1590
    @larrylezon1590 Před měsícem +16

    Great investigative reporting! Glad to see there's finally a respectable journalist out there, not someone who just parrots what the corporation wants people to hear.
    I would next look into the mayor's connection to the cult, as this judge didn't disclose anything inappropriate. He also wasn't implicated in any of the wrongdoings. There doesn't seem to be a good reason to ask for his resignation.

    • @ewillson4953
      @ewillson4953 Před měsícem

      He will be connected..you can run ,but you can't hide

  • @melaniegatton
    @melaniegatton Před měsícem +4

    Seems super obvious to me that, as a judge, you shouldn't be talking about your connection to an ongoing case and how nice one of the defendants is

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 Před měsícem

      But you don't know _WHY_ do you ??? ...If you did know why, then you'd know that your assertion is completely ridiculous as that only applies the litigants involved because people frequently mis-state things on accident, which could later be perceived as untrustworthy by the Court & by jurors. That's why Council advise their Clients NOT to talk before Court: Because of accidental mis-statements. But that doesn't even matter if you're not a Plaintiff or a Defendant. He's just a witness. He knows he's not involved in murder, so he doesn't give AF who believes him, because he's NOT being charged with any crime.

  • @Persepolis8564
    @Persepolis8564 Před měsícem +33

    How do you do formal business with a very anti government person?

    • @melissab1725
      @melissab1725 Před měsícem +19

      esp being a judge and working for the government

    • @stacytw79
      @stacytw79 Před měsícem +4

      @@melissab1725BINGO!

    • @bjbrtn5644
      @bjbrtn5644 Před měsícem +1

      Didn't get the impression it was a "formal" business, sounded more like side jobs to make money and stay busy.

    • @bjbrtn5644
      @bjbrtn5644 Před měsícem +1

      Have since learned it was a formal business, in fact, a helicopter business.

  • @donlum9128
    @donlum9128 Před měsícem +15

    IRS needs to audit the Misfits including Hunter.

  • @Mpeterson1234
    @Mpeterson1234 Před měsícem +5

    This guy is a judge? That is frightening, he didn’t even speak English well.

  • @billaveda6408
    @billaveda6408 Před měsícem +5

    Kudos to Brian for being on the ground and seeking the truth of this story.

  • @youareawesomethankyouforge8803
    @youareawesomethankyouforge8803 Před měsícem +21

    Yes, agreed. The Mayor just outed himself. Scary stuff man! No wonder everyone's afraid to talk. Children of the Corn!

    • @HighOctane-wo6cm
      @HighOctane-wo6cm Před měsícem +3

      Oh yes most definitely Children of the Corn ! Can you imagine waking up and living in this town every day with this cast of characters ?

    • @wendielangborders4116
      @wendielangborders4116 Před měsícem +1

      Got a police department that allows family members to burglar but no one gets into trouble over Miss guns but promoting to protect the kids ? An cover up

  • @lisakayruetz7354
    @lisakayruetz7354 Před měsícem +9

    If Beasley was so upset, why did he agree to lie to LE about what Tad was doing??

  • @Kansascountry283
    @Kansascountry283 Před měsícem +12

    I have lived in and around Elkhart for almost 50 years and i had never heard of Gods misfits until all this happened.

  • @kenn1936
    @kenn1936 Před měsícem +6

    I was hoping it was the judge that gave the father custody!!!!!!!!!! It's about time the courts are held responsible for their mistakes, where it leads to people being murdered. Such as giving custody to crazy people!!

  • @biancarose5180
    @biancarose5180 Před měsícem +3

    Brian is top notch!

  • @seashell-life
    @seashell-life Před měsícem +10

    Was the judge trying to give them a heads up because he knew what was coming? He MUST have heard SOMETHING since he was seeing them every day. He had inside information about the big guys snooping around asking questions...

    • @tereseday4060
      @tereseday4060 Před měsícem +1

      They have a helicopter business.

    • @seashell-life
      @seashell-life Před měsícem

      I’m starting to think the judge was working undercover to infiltrate them and was sent to get them all at the compound for the raid so they wouldn’t scatter.Maybe he set them up to take them down?

  • @smorgasbroad1132
    @smorgasbroad1132 Před měsícem +5

    Why must reporters always have to stand outside in all manner of weather, traffic, noise conditions? It's been stupid for years. IMO.

    • @SeashelleBytheseashore
      @SeashelleBytheseashore Před měsícem

      Same!! I will never understand it with the technology we have today. They still report like it's 1956.

  • @dyoung2739
    @dyoung2739 Před měsícem +3

    Speaking as someone was born and raised in a small town, small towns are something else. The judge probably helped them w/their plot to unalive💔those young ladies. Deepest condolences🙏🏽🕊️to the loved ones of Veronica Butler & Jilian Kelley.

  • @terihaynes-yf9jb
    @terihaynes-yf9jb Před měsícem +22

    Wow. This interview was absolutely crazy. The judge lost his mind. Good ole boy town. Above the law. Mayor doesn't want the attention.

  • @lr8607
    @lr8607 Před měsícem +5

    Poor Mr. Forbes; he got a little scared when the swat team surprised him and friend Tad. His friend Tad is a great guy who happens to be in a cult.
    And golly gee, he's also known Tiffany for years and she's a bit out in left field but she's in a cult too!
    And this "judge" happens to be moonlighting doing business with his friend Tad while Tad is allegedly involved in planning the murder of two people.
    What a shame poor judge Forbes lost his cushy municipal appointment for associating with these types of people -- said no reasonable person ever.

  • @jessicalubien5424
    @jessicalubien5424 Před měsícem +33

    This screams bs! Or is it just me?

  • @christinejackson8542
    @christinejackson8542 Před měsícem +3

    I call BS on the judge !!! Also the Mayor knows.

  • @bookbag6432
    @bookbag6432 Před měsícem +19

    You forgot to mention the part of the interview where he said he was very close friends with the man that was arrested, even currently. Clearly that is not a good look or thing to say publicly at this time.

    • @anonz975
      @anonz975 Před měsícem +2

      I agree. Everyone there is too scared to talk and having a judge do an interview saying the main suspect is a good friend and the "nicest guy" will only scare people more (if that is even possible). Could lead to jury nullification or witnesses being too scared to testify.

    • @tealblue4987
      @tealblue4987 Před měsícem

      @@anonz975 im scared and im not even there

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 Před 29 dny

      @@anonz975 ...Sounds like they're scared to talk because of the _CONSEQUENCES_ of doing so... Like, how the Judge basically got removed for doing an interview. Sounds like they're scared of the _MAYOR_ having _HIS_ *_Police Force_* "checkout" someone for merely talking !!!

  • @lesisbest11
    @lesisbest11 Před měsícem +3

    In the original interview with the judge he said about Tad, "he was my friend, then corrected and said he IS my friend". How you could claim such a thing knowing he committed such a heinous, senseless crime tells pretty much that the judge very well could be tainted himself. That and he was in "business with him for a long time". Pretty telling.

    • @danielleragin1306
      @danielleragin1306 Před měsícem +2

      Hence the cops keeping everything under wraps this whole investigation.

  • @BassPro2
    @BassPro2 Před měsícem +3

    Brian never breaks eye contact while interviewing. For me that’s hard to do but this man is great at what he does

    • @nikolaikalashnikov4253
      @nikolaikalashnikov4253 Před 29 dny

      Dude, he prepared his report _IN ADVANCE_ and he still broke eye contact four times: 1st, when he mentioned the weather, and a 2nd time, when he recalled the memory of the Homeowner's reaction. 3rd, when asked about "the twist" with this story. And 4th, when he had to reference his notes for the NAME of the Cult. And that's completely natural: Just Google, "Lying Eyes": it explains how our eyes involuntary move when we're accessing different parts of our Brain: And it's used to determine if someone is accessing actual memories, OR, if they need to filter their words 1st, OR, if they're just creating a story out of thin air.
      None of this applies when he's asking the Judge questions: And it's not about "eye contact": It's about taking in everything: Body Language, Facial Expressions, Tone of Voice, as well as involuntary Eye Movements: All of these indicators can help you determine if the subject is being truthful or deceptive.

  • @pjdava
    @pjdava Před měsícem +10

    NewsNation, This is fantastic! I subscribed because I love it!

  • @Bamg12345
    @Bamg12345 Před měsícem +25

    Granny tried once in Feb as well. She staked out her house but Veronica never left that day. They found google searches where Granny was googling how to get someone out of their home.. She was planning to throw an Anvil through her windshield and make it look like an accident with the thought process of anvils fall off work trucks all the time.. Granny on March 23 was buying 5 tazers at the Big R with a google search saying Tazer pain levels also bought pre paid cell phones at Walmart. I want to say that Judge was SEEN with Tad and Tiffany and the small children just last Friday helping them cut wood at someones shop..

  • @wlf9108
    @wlf9108 Před měsícem +4

    I didn’t think he was inappropriate. That’s weird

  • @johnnypipe
    @johnnypipe Před měsícem +4

    I know one thing for sure, they better try this case in a court house in Oklahoma City.

  • @cynthiaramos5787
    @cynthiaramos5787 Před měsícem +6

    Great reporting

  • @Swksgirl
    @Swksgirl Před měsícem +2

    Judge should not have been forced to resign. I believe he is just as surprised by the events that have unfolded as the other locals that knew the ones arrested. There must be more to the story.

  • @larryrisley9845
    @larryrisley9845 Před měsícem +14

    That judge new they were anti government but didn't know anything

    • @reformcongress
      @reformcongress Před měsícem

      It isn't against the law to be anti-government just like it isn't against the law for someone to believe things like "white people are racist".

  • @gi_nattak
    @gi_nattak Před měsícem +8

    That "Judge" reminds me of the Sheriff in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre...

  • @Pa-we1lw
    @Pa-we1lw Před měsícem +3

    Something is definitely rotten here.

  • @momof1576
    @momof1576 Před měsícem +2

    It was completely inappropriate for the judge to make any comment on an ongoing case.

  • @fredgervinm.p.3315
    @fredgervinm.p.3315 Před měsícem +3

    When the judge said "He IS a good friend of mine, not WAS a good friend of mine but IS a good friend mine."
    I was instantly reminded of a damage control line from the Harrison Ford movie,
    Clear and Present Danger. lol...

  • @darlenemitchell5402
    @darlenemitchell5402 Před měsícem +3

    Wow !!! Please go after the major Now . Please …. Thank you for busting this open …. I live in Edmond ok . Please keep going in this . These people are scary and need to be stopped .

  • @kristinebalena3969
    @kristinebalena3969 Před měsícem +6

    That bunch looks scary weird

  • @edkarlander5388
    @edkarlander5388 Před měsícem +2

    The judge sounded like a great man. He is in shock over the situation. What a crazy outcome for the judge. Who is Paul?

  • @Lexielouwho
    @Lexielouwho Před měsícem +8

    Keep digging Brian cause this could be a huge story. See whom you can uncover in power who was a member of this group. I just dont believe this guy never heard of this cult especially if he was such good friends with a member. Pretty suspicious him being fired.

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars Před měsícem +4

    Making the judge resign is ridiculous he didn’t disclose anything that was important to the case😡 I feel bad for him 😢

    • @xyz5765
      @xyz5765 Před měsícem +5

      I do too although he's awful naive. The mayor should be looked into

  • @rosalindalay4499
    @rosalindalay4499 Před měsícem +3

    Ashleigh n Brian are excellent journalists ❤❤

  • @marypscreationsandmoreprog4316

    Thank you News Nation!!!

  • @jackiesherrill9135
    @jackiesherrill9135 Před měsícem +2

    That poor Judge, that is just so wrong of the mayor.

  • @sherrypingby6612
    @sherrypingby6612 Před měsícem +9

    They actually thought they was above the law and goverment !

    • @PK-bh1ww
      @PK-bh1ww Před měsícem +1

      with the judge and mayor for buddies.... in that area they likely were...

    • @tereseday4060
      @tereseday4060 Před měsícem

      ​@@PK-bh1wwDifferent county.

  • @jamesbillington9280
    @jamesbillington9280 Před měsícem +56

    This judge stinks to high heaven.

  • @shannonfrink7939
    @shannonfrink7939 Před měsícem +1

    You guys are doing amazing work on this story, and it is so refreshing to see traditional journalism in action! Keep up the good work.

  • @jajanesaddictions
    @jajanesaddictions Před měsícem +2

    Brian Entin is the Best.