How Do INFJs and ESTPs Flirt- with Joyce Meng
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
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Check out this clip from my conversation with @JoyceMeng22 about how INFJs flirt, how ESTPs flirt, and what struggles INFJs face with flirting and dating.
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Kiersey
NF: want soulmates
NT: want mind mates
SJ: want help mates
SP: want playmates
ESTJs want inmates.
@@Preetvndhahahaa 😂
Hey Kate!!! It was so lovely to chat about love and relationships with you! 🙂
You too Joyce! Genuinely enjoyed our convo 😁
As an INFJ, I don't flirt because when I do I feel like I'm one of those ostriches that wanna hide under the sand.
6:50 YES, Joyce. As an SP, playmate is exactly what I want. That’s why finding an ENFP was such a good fit for me. We have a blast together.
Drunk infjs turn into estps (anyone else noticed?)
Not exactly ESTP but very attuned to the present moments. I mean brain is literally poisoned, can't think long term for jack.
Yes, I think so. The inhibition and sense goes away.
Yup, getting drunk is a good way to engage with your "subconscious" or flipped stack
As someone who successfully courted a male INFJ ... they stare into your soul. -intj 4w5
We sure do LOL
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson It made me blush the first time. ☺️
3:07 it’s just your natural radiance, Joyce! 😝
For the record, one of my closest friends is an INFJ. All my friends are INFJs. Every single best friend is an INFJ. Best type for sure. Got this Fe game down pat!
0:15 All INFJ CZcamsrs speak for all INFJs even though most of us have INFJs in our lives to know that they're just regular people and don't need to write about how "Oh my gosh I like wish people just knew I was a regular like person but people like think I'm so great but I'm like totally not I'm just like everyone", which they might think because of all the great compliments that are actually just networking opportunities to look nice to others, but everyone knows they mistake a fart just like the rest of us!
0:57 If they're like CZcams INFJs, they probably don't receive flirting back because they're telling everyone what never to say to them so people never want to flirt or say anything to them.
2:45 Appreciate her confidence. Yeah..halo...okay...wait a sec...smells like something is burning around me...just kidding...I was pretending about being surprised about feeling hot all the time. I relate with INFJs!
3:15 Not sure about flirting because so many have flirted with me that it's difficult to keep track, but from experience, ENFPs are heavenly with their kindness. Every type is great, but ENFPs, it's awe-inspiring how they have this whimsical maturity. INFPs as well. The ENFP champion and INFP healer descriptions have been appropriate in my experience.
3:38 Once again appreciate the confidence
4:20 Keirsey ESTP promoter right here. Guess we gotta go back and re-watch and watch your old videos.
5:12 What's the line between being playful and young at heart and going too far on April Fool's Day?
5:30 Sounds like a youtube INFJ
5:45 Tee-hee
5:59 This is everybody. It's why I don't think there's a difference between how particular types flirt, but Meyers and Briggs allows for a springboard for down to earth discussions like this.
6:16 She said yes already. She even complimented herself with the halo.
6:35 Interesting is an interesting Fe game word. When people say that to me I think they're telling me bless my heart.
7:14 The direction of the universe is right as in everything will be alright!
7:58 What?
8:15 Agreed
8:27 Friends as theater? Nevermind.
8:46 This is where the interview starts for showing INFJs. I think ENFPs and INFPs are nicer to those close to them being more grounded in preferring Fi, and sensors, conceptually are nicer to those closer to them due to being more in the moment and the past to keep them less detached, which ties into why I think Keirsey might have associated ISFPs and ESFPs being the nicest/friendliest type (being sensors and grounded with Fi) and INTJs and ENTJs nicer to those closer to them due to having the feeling function lower so wanting to focus on that in their down time, but INFJs and ENFJs might be more detached with their Ni and then meaner with those close to them due to wanting to explore their Ti and Se in their down time.
That third function Ti hurts with someone close to me but it's helped me to be a better man. She told me how she had no friends and would keep saying things that would upset people so she didn't say anything at all, and being that I hear the really harsh stuff, I can understand why they wouldn't want to be around her because I don't always want to because it hurts, but the truth hurts, and she's the greatest person in my life, and continues to help save my soul. And I don't mean that in new age way. I believe souls are real, and fear my soul every day. She comes across as the most pleasant person to others and I get the mean stuff from her where it gets uncomfortable, but that's why she's the greatest friend in the world because she keeps helping me to grow and it's great to have someone like that who trusts me, but it hurts. But wisdom comes through suffering, and she's the wisest person I know. She's suffered so much and is so selfless. She's a reason why it's frustrating to hear people question free will. If you don't believe in free will, you don't believe in heroes. You don't believe in self-sacrificial love.
9:54 Ti can be mean, but mean isn't always a bad thing. All functions can be ordered toward good or evil, and our belief in good and evil depends on who or what our lord and master is, and based on my lord and master, while I think it's always good to be kind, gentle, modest, generous, patience, and charitable, sometimes it can be helpful to be mean with Fe and Ti for humor because it helps with humility similar to how the Jester would say truth to the King, which helps bring the goodness. There's a time and place for everything, and we might not be the person to say it, and if we do, we have to make sure it's ordered toward the good and not self-righteousness or vanity. And my belief in goodness in grounded in Catholicism, so when people demonize people for being evil for saying whatever word that isn't popular to say in the moment to help brighten people's days, even though they probably used it more than everyone and actually say hateful things but it's the appropriate word to say because that's what the culture says is okay for the current 5 minutes until it changes again and again, if it's not against my Catholicism, then it's not bad. But it could be bad! Again, kindness, gentleness, modesty, generosity, patience, and charity is good.
10:00 The Fe game is one of the reasons I didn't enjoy listening to ESTP Joe Rogan outside of health, working out, or MMA topics, and I was glad when ENTP Steven Crowder brought out the more authentic Joe Rogan in that one episode where Joe dropped the nice nice mask, but I'm very grateful that he has such a big platform to help build bridges and get certain news in the mainstream. He's helping a lot of people. The diplomatic Fe game is a long term game that relies on people giving the benefit of the doubt.
10:25 Wait, so do you think ESTP men have a better time with Fe then women since, conceptually, I was thinking that in general ESTP women would want to focus on feeling functions similar to how INFJ men would want to focus on a thinking function earlier on, which is why I think thinker women and feeler men could be more developed earlier. Thinker women might be more feminine and feeler men might be more mature in adult years thanks to struggles in their youth.
12:00 You think this goes along with women being more comfortable around men for friends? As opposed to men wanting to be friends with women? Less Fe judging. Which is really important, especially when things go to far with the thinker heavy humor getting more cynical such SP humor being hilarious with the conceptually weaker Ne to allow for other possibilities, but then you need Fe judging when they're so in the moment and not realizing the greater effects it's having on them and those around them that isn't so funny, and then it's just mean and not fun.
12:40 Isn't it Fe judging to test how far things can go? And it's informed by perceiving with Se reading the room with visual cues Si reflecting on the past information to remember what might work Ne Reading into things Ni having an idea about someone?
15:40 Thank you, Joyce. It's not fun feeling like a lab rat being studied. It's why I think Fi and Si are the intimacy functions.
I gotta go. Thank you Kate and Joyce.
Hope you have a great day. Merry Christmas to you and your families.
@@ENFPerspectives Thank you. I don't remember what I wrote! haha Hope you and your loved ones have a very nice Easter, Levana. Beautiful sunset avatar picture!
Are you an INTP?
Wow, so rare to hear from INFJs on this topic. Very open explanations from Joyce.
Wow so much synergy and chemistry
Very thought provoking and deep conversation.
My Mom was an INFJ and stepdad was ESTP. They were very happily married for decades before she passed away.
Can you do one on INTJs and ESFPs?
I’m sorry for your loss
Great talk. And nice to hear from another lady (Kate) who is touchy/grabby with her partner. I am the same with my boyfriend 😁
Wow, that INFJ is spot on. Great guest!
This was so interesting.
I enjoyed listening and learning about the cognitive function differences and similarities.
Thanks.
Very informative video really liked it
Well, being a healthy, balanced infj... I'm aware that I have zero game. So, I guess I'd probably mirror your energy until something takes... Or I'd say drink until I'm pretty. Hehe
Love you both and relate so much. I'm normative estp too and everyone dislikes my ti except me (female). Yes, I can do a nice Fe but can't keep it up indefinitely.
Hmmmm, so how does Kiersey’s finding stack up against the Dual theory of relationships? As an INTJ, it’s true that I want a mind mate. But if ESFP is my dual and they want a playmate, can it work?
INFJ and ESTP should not be in a relationship together.
How interesting!
I find myself being immensely awkward and creepy when I attemp to flirt, that's one of my elements though so I'd packaged in a Suttle joke, almost leaving the door opened to play it off as if I was just playing.... of course, if I was in jedi-ninja mode I'd be more bold and probably just "through a left leg" out and trip ya.. Im really disappointing though so, I've got that going for me. 😜
I...did the title change or am I crazy?
Hi, I remember your personality type is intp?
i like to play-mind 🚀's are fun 🎉
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