I forgot to mention the parts in order to build the kitguns. Both the catchmoon and the tombfinger use Tremor and Splat for their build parts Edit: Dante Unbound hit and 2 things were outright removed from this guide. Eclipse is no more. It is dead. Contagion heavy attack interaction is fixed so contagion is not even usable when paired with wisp anymore. The strongest Wisp combination was killed this patch and the character lost 90% of its damage just like that. Edit2: Eclipse was hotfixed, It wasnt affecting melee weapons. The combination is still not worth it though. Also Wisp 3 doesn't blind eximus any more Edit3: The build I use is still 100% the same. I have made a video for eclipse vs xata vs roar to showcase whats better. I tend to avoid nourish to not ruin damage weighting on my weapons but its a solid choice for team buffing and an archon stretch/Fused reservoir combo
Have you tried Nourish on Wisp? While it doesn't grant as much raw damage as Eclipse, it has a lot of utility with energy multiplier, since wisp can sometimes struggle with energy. Its Viral Damage boost also applies to breach surge projectiles (I have seen breach surge projectiles inflict viral procs when Nourish was active) allowing you to double dip the damage bonus. I would argue that it's certainly better than Xata's whisper since Xata's applies a lesser damage bonus and doesn't appear to apply to Breach Surge projectiles (I couldn't get breach surge projectiles to apply void bubbles in my testing). Moreover, I highly recommend Archon Intensify and Archon Stretch over Umbral Intensify and Stretch. Wisp's healing motes means she has a nearly 100% uptime on archon intensify's bonus 30%, meaning that it only loses to umbral intensify with all 3 umbral mods (and even then only by ~10% ability strength). Archon Stretch procs on the Shock Motes, which when combined with Nourish allows you to have extremely fast energy regen allowing you to practically spam Will-o-Wisp + Breach Surge.
I am gonna be completely honest with you. This is a guide video, meaning >I< guide >you< not the opposite. I have tried every single subsume on wisp, the amount of strength you have makes abilities that give weapon damage almost always bad. The reason is simple and its called damage weighting. If i have too much Viral then I am unable to use my other type of damages, imagine a heat focused build. You just ruined it. The fact you are even mentioning shock mote means you have not even watched the video at all. Archon Stretch is fine, its usually good if you want to combine it with primed flow and spam everything like a squid on high level where shock mote can actually be used. For 99% of the game's content adding it only loses me the extra starting energy I would gain from the extra capacity
@@WispGraxx I appreciate your reply, even if it felt a bit unnecessarily hostile. I wasn't trying to sound condescending, I was genuinely interested to hear why Nourish wasn't mentioned, since my experience with using it has been very positive, and I think it's certainly a better option than Roar or Warcry, which eat up a third of your energy bar. While nourish might disrupt weapon builds that rely on status chance to proc heat/slash, it does not disrupt any build that doesn't rely on status procs, or builds that rely on Hunter Munitions/Internal Bleeding/Hemmorhage. It's also useful for weapons that rely on CO for damage since you can mod for elements other than viral. I wasn't intending to imply that it's better than Eclipse in optimal conditions, obviously eclipse is better (Unless you're in Albrecht Labs where you can't consistently get the damage boost due to the GI lighting not affecting Mirage abilities) As for Shock Motes, I DID watch the whole video. The fact that Shock motes trigger the 3 second Stealth Melee cooldown is a very VERY minor gripe. Stealth Melee Bonus is super inconsistent due to the fact that it is put on cooldown by literally every interaction you can have with an enemy (even just bumping into them), has no visual indication of when it is on cooldown, and isn't even particularly strong since the bonus damage is not multiplied by crits. even in the gameplay where you show off stealth attacks you aren't even getting very many of them (Stealth attacks will always show the damage color of a base crit, meaning that if a number shows up white, it was NOT affected by the stealth bonus). Shock motes DO have the downside of using up one of your 6 active reservoir limit, so in missions where you'd want to have multiple health and haste motes on the field, like Void Armageddon (and even then placing haste motes on the turrets is mostly a meme), it can be useful to not use shock motes, but this is not mentioned in the video. I mentioned the Archon Mods because in the video you appeared not to have them (Archon Stretch and Archon Flow would've have appeared next to Aero Vantage when sorting by polarity), So I thought I'd mention the interactions with Archon Intensify and Archon Stretch in case you hadn't tried them. The fact that your suggesting Archon Stretch with Primed Flow makes me further suspect that you don't understand how Archon Stretch works (it's a flat 2 energy per second, energy max doesn't affect it so it's usually used on builds that need energy but CAN'T fit flow for whatever reason, such as in some tightly optimized Discharge nuking setups). I'll admit that, sans nourish, Archon Stretch doesn't provide that much energy utility (though you do get to have 100% uptime on it's energy regen with shock motes). I 100% stand by using Archon Intensify over Umbral Intensify, and I won't budge on it. If you can confidently proc Arcane Avenger, then you can confidently proc Archon Intensify (taking damage consistently means you'll be healing yourself consistently). When Archon Intensify is active, It grants 16% more ability strength than a max rank Umbral Intensify (5% more if using one other umbral mod). Unless you're using 3 Umbral mods for some reason, archon Intensify is always better on wisp.
@@theninjaguy2 its a guide bro 💀were not year long veterans looking for the every possible way to minmax, make a vid of your own if your so worried about archon mods and other niche changes
@@rhyq5808Bruh this guide is by someone with 2500 HOURS ON WISP how is that not endgame he even talks about shards focus school and clearly has formad a bunch
I've been playing wisp so much since her release she actually managed to take the spot for my most used frame. For many years base Rhino was my most used because he was the first frame I farmed and used for such a long time as a new player. But recently I've been drifting further away from wisp and playing a lot of Xaku.
Hey Moug, Im kinda new to the game and I was able to build Wisp Prime recently. Ive watched through the whole video to get through parts of her kit that I didnt understand it has honestly helped me a lot so THANK YOU. The thing you said about the passive being sooo nice to use could not have been more true. I love invisibility and I use Ash a lot for it but Wisp has it FREE OF ENERGY COST. I plan to use her more and improve my build as I go frok the noob setup right now to something better as I get into Steel Path and other things later. Thank you so much😊
After more than 3000 hours in the game, I'm starting to think about focusing in the warframes I love, and I can feel Wisp is one of them. Thank you for this guy, for your time and the playtesting! Can't wait to get Wisp to level cap after understanding her enough!
Damn bro tysm i was fooled by mhblacky and this 2 Builds are just insane im using the first Build and, my guy the upgrade is amazing Im the happiest man alive now
I take it a well modded Fulmin Prime is pretty bad compared to any of the guns you listed off for Wisp Prime? Also if I were to grind out a Stahlta ... do I need a Riven for it or is it good on it's own with the other Mods you're using (and if not without a Riven, good alternative for that slot?)
Starting playing stahlta yesterday, and now it's time for Wisp! I dont really like incarnon mecanic and was looking for a frame that can boost normal weapons and be fun to play. Is the augment for wisp 3 bad? Looks good on paper but i dont see it on your recommendations. Thank you for your guide it ll help a lot.
For sure, archon intensify is just a bit incosistent and also relies on you casting your ability twice which for a normal mission is not something I desire but it is for sure good for the first build if you dont want to waste the umbral forma
Hi. Thanks for this great guide. I have a question. I want to build this set up with Stahlta and Epitaph. I don't have any of them right now, but I'm planning to invest and get them. Problem is that I'm pretty far away from Primed Sure Footed. Do you think Handspring would be enough to provide any comfortable gameplay with all those self-stagger and self-knock-downs. I dont have any self-staggering weapons right now, so I don't know about the mechanic very well. Is self-stagger from explosive weapons really a big problem in actual gameplay in high level steel path content (not intereseted in level cap endurance). Do you always get self-stagger every time you shoot? Is it that much annoying? No videos about stagger that I found on youtube give this info really. Most of them just praise PSF or suggest using 2 or 3 mod combo if you don't have PSF. Even videos comparing PSF and Handspring just compare them in terms of enemy-sourced stagger, not self-stagger. I'd be glad if you can explain this issue to noobs like me. This is the only obstacle between me and enjoying this awesome build atm.
The explosion radius for both isnt that big to interrupt gameplay a lot. Feel free to use them, stahlta being mr 10 is criminal. By far the strongest primary imo
Strat with melee weapons Wisp is invis in the air and the first attack (has to be melee) from invis does 700% more damage. With electric mote you lose that multiplier because u have already attacked
What would you use now instead of primed surefooted? In the video you say handspring but I think your opinion changed on that. Also - if we do not have archon shards what would you build?
I totally agree about armor and adaptation they work wonders together alot of my bulids ive started to dump shield gating in favor of damage reduction and if i still need shield gating ill run it on my companion instead
Hey Moug, I'm not a big fan of eclipse especially since it recently got a shadow-nerf and is a little more challenging to keep the buff up. Out of all the helminth abilities what do you think the closest substitute would be? I saw you mention in another reply that nourish isn't a good idea due to damage weighting. I'm currently running xata's whisper but I dont think it works terribly well with Stahlta. Would roar be my best bet?
Roar, eclipse and xata's whisper are all viable options Eclipse didnt get any nerfs it just shows you how it actually works. Most of you just didnt know and you are suddenly calling it bad for only giving you like 300% multiplicative weapon damage most of the time instead of 600% or 75% DR Rest assured its still conpletely insane as an ability
@@WispGraxx Awesome! thanks for the quick response. Xata's whisper feels underwhelming because it's just small white numbers I think. Don't even have regular mirage right now so I'll work on that and chuck her to the helminth. Gonna try all of them for myself :). Managed to snag an alright stahlta riven. Very much enjoying the weapon.
concerning the second build i have the same on wisp prime, except 2 different mods, only 3 forma (2 normal 1 umbra, i need one more umbra to max level the 3 mods). for me, energy conversion is amar's hatred (armor/ability strength) and continuity is streamline, that way you have 15% more strength, and you are at 73% duration (22sec buff, which is more than fine running around refreshing or sitting on plants for infinite buff duration) and 75% efficiency, which i find more balanced. although i need to change zenurik school for madurai and have 40% ability strength instead of just 20%, even if i won't have the energy regen, i'll try how it goes.
thank yopu moug for this ivideo this has cured my ccnancer, i grew 10 cm and now own a fishing company, not to me,ntion n the raging boner i had listenenign to the gun sounds
I have some questions as I'm looking to Forma my Wisp up. Would Combat Discipline be a bad choice over Growing Power here? I'm looking to run Archon Intensify (I'd be using this over Umbral intensify) in tandem with Discipline to proc Avenger more consistently. Is Eclipse still worth using since the changes? I'm looking to either use Eclipse, Roar, or Nourish as my Helminth. Is Nourish a good option?
Combat discipline on a warframe that health tanks is a horrible choice in general so except u are going for i-frames build dont bother using it. Avenger is permanently proccing without it Archon Intensify is okay but a bit incosistent which is why i prefer umbral intensify however its still a good choice. Eclipse is generally worse than roar and nourish atm. Roar is the best option imo since it helps teammates more than nourish does (if they have a build with viral slash melee their build is no longer functioning etc). Nourish is still a great option i just feel like wisp has 0 energy issues to warrant this Why do i use eclipse? 1. I only play solo 2. It scales better than roar with bane mods 3. It scales better than roar if your gun has multiplicative CO (im using stahlta) Feel free to go eclipse over the other options for solo play but keep roar for squad play
Ye since most of the time u are gonna be playing with a team. With wisp prime especially, having all umbral mods maxed will give you enough tankyness paired with the extra HP but it is of course squishier than the solo build When playing solo tho.. czcams.com/video/h44VmKYBvUg/video.html
If I run the primary you recommend (staltah) think I spelled it wrong. which glaive would you reccomend with the regular wisp build. I have xoris falcor glaive prime and cerata
@@WispGraxx Thanks alot, been checking out your channel a lot lately tryna find non meta stuff and decided to use the stahlta though my riven isn't all that
@@WispGraxx hey these links are broken, super curious about this build as a new / returning player. Also wondering if the recent damage patch changes any of this guide majorly or if its still solid. Wisp got me hooked and I wanna make her insane. Edit: Watched the first part of your quick yap video and heard yout weapons almost all got buffed, which answers my question on them. Also what companion do you like to run?
@@__Cilix__ i am in the process of doing a bunch of weapons rn but the weapons you see in this video still work very well. Only exception being exodia contagion
I would wait to see what the changes will be when they hit live to give an opinion. Its currently not looking good for eclipse but lets see what the final version is like
Okay i hope to god you reply to this comment i know its a year late, but what is your animation set on wisp fashion? Like its twitching, i have the same skin and i really want that effect, please 😭
hey i have the exact same setup almost riven and everything for the stahlta, and running the eclipse builede not seeing nearly as much dmg any idea why?
Also consider making sure that the azure archon shards are tauforged because if not they only give you +150 armor, but when tauforged they give 225 armor.@@doncorleon8104
Imo i think that for the 1st build you should use archon Intensify and archon strech instead of stretch and umbral intensify, bc the fact that wisp vitality reservoir will always heal you archon Intensify will be better than umbral intensify; Bc umbral intensify gives 44% strength, but archon Intensify gives you 30% base strength and also more 30% strength stacking to 60% for each time an abillity heals you since you you always have vitality reservoir on, then +16% abillity strength is always better to have. And for archon stretch it does literally the same stretch does and even better bc whenever you have the shocking reservoir placed, you will gain +2 energy per second if you have a abillity that is dealing electric damage and since, even better shocking reservoir is passive (assuming that you allways keep claiming the buffs) then you will have no problem with energy, and even if you didnt had its always better than nothing So yea i think the addition of these 2 mods are gonna make an instant upgrade, and about the shocking reservoir i know you said something about avoid its use but since you didint really explain why, then this is why im making use if it. If im wrong on anything that i sayd please comsider telling me. Oh yea quick edit aproving that you can 100% all the time use shocking reservoir without beying able to do finisher Kills to trigger power drain is that you can use Bronco with Dizzying rounds augment, so that wenever you shoot it you have 200% chance for the Enemy to be Open for finishers. So yea no more worries with shocking reservoir.
A viewer came to my discord and had similar issues. Here is 2 videos that helped him out. Maybe they will also help you czcams.com/video/wHNfVnuQj7E/video.html czcams.com/video/pLTpO1OJqIU/video.html For context he had no primed cryo rounds and he was complaining he dealt 0 damage
@@WispGraxx is this correct? at 25:56 it shows you have : serration, cryo rounds, infected clip, crit delay, chamber, aptitute, vital sense, and then the riven mod
I forgot to mention the parts in order to build the kitguns. Both the catchmoon and the tombfinger use Tremor and Splat for their build parts
Edit: Dante Unbound hit and 2 things were outright removed from this guide. Eclipse is no more. It is dead. Contagion heavy attack interaction is fixed so contagion is not even usable when paired with wisp anymore. The strongest Wisp combination was killed this patch and the character lost 90% of its damage just like that.
Edit2: Eclipse was hotfixed, It wasnt affecting melee weapons. The combination is still not worth it though. Also Wisp 3 doesn't blind eximus any more
Edit3: The build I use is still 100% the same. I have made a video for eclipse vs xata vs roar to showcase whats better. I tend to avoid nourish to not ruin damage weighting on my weapons but its a solid choice for team buffing and an archon stretch/Fused reservoir combo
you got any tips for helminth if i shouldn't use eclipse?
and is stahlta still good?
Also breach surge no longer blinds eximus
@@ironbatty2593 eclipse is still the best for me
@@ironbatty2593 stahlta is better than ever
its absolutley criminal how many views this has, this is the best guide ive seen on a warframe ever
Damn now THIS is what I call a guide, your channel is SERIOUSLY underrated
Have you tried Nourish on Wisp? While it doesn't grant as much raw damage as Eclipse, it has a lot of utility with energy multiplier, since wisp can sometimes struggle with energy. Its Viral Damage boost also applies to breach surge projectiles (I have seen breach surge projectiles inflict viral procs when Nourish was active) allowing you to double dip the damage bonus. I would argue that it's certainly better than Xata's whisper since Xata's applies a lesser damage bonus and doesn't appear to apply to Breach Surge projectiles (I couldn't get breach surge projectiles to apply void bubbles in my testing).
Moreover, I highly recommend Archon Intensify and Archon Stretch over Umbral Intensify and Stretch. Wisp's healing motes means she has a nearly 100% uptime on archon intensify's bonus 30%, meaning that it only loses to umbral intensify with all 3 umbral mods (and even then only by ~10% ability strength). Archon Stretch procs on the Shock Motes, which when combined with Nourish allows you to have extremely fast energy regen allowing you to practically spam Will-o-Wisp + Breach Surge.
I am gonna be completely honest with you.
This is a guide video, meaning >I< guide >you< not the opposite. I have tried every single subsume on wisp, the amount of strength you have makes abilities that give weapon damage almost always bad. The reason is simple and its called damage weighting. If i have too much Viral then I am unable to use my other type of damages, imagine a heat focused build. You just ruined it.
The fact you are even mentioning shock mote means you have not even watched the video at all. Archon Stretch is fine, its usually good if you want to combine it with primed flow and spam everything like a squid on high level where shock mote can actually be used. For 99% of the game's content adding it only loses me the extra starting energy I would gain from the extra capacity
@@WispGraxx I appreciate your reply, even if it felt a bit unnecessarily hostile. I wasn't trying to sound condescending, I was genuinely interested to hear why Nourish wasn't mentioned, since my experience with using it has been very positive, and I think it's certainly a better option than Roar or Warcry, which eat up a third of your energy bar. While nourish might disrupt weapon builds that rely on status chance to proc heat/slash, it does not disrupt any build that doesn't rely on status procs, or builds that rely on Hunter Munitions/Internal Bleeding/Hemmorhage. It's also useful for weapons that rely on CO for damage since you can mod for elements other than viral. I wasn't intending to imply that it's better than Eclipse in optimal conditions, obviously eclipse is better (Unless you're in Albrecht Labs where you can't consistently get the damage boost due to the GI lighting not affecting Mirage abilities)
As for Shock Motes, I DID watch the whole video. The fact that Shock motes trigger the 3 second Stealth Melee cooldown is a very VERY minor gripe. Stealth Melee Bonus is super inconsistent due to the fact that it is put on cooldown by literally every interaction you can have with an enemy (even just bumping into them), has no visual indication of when it is on cooldown, and isn't even particularly strong since the bonus damage is not multiplied by crits. even in the gameplay where you show off stealth attacks you aren't even getting very many of them (Stealth attacks will always show the damage color of a base crit, meaning that if a number shows up white, it was NOT affected by the stealth bonus). Shock motes DO have the downside of using up one of your 6 active reservoir limit, so in missions where you'd want to have multiple health and haste motes on the field, like Void Armageddon (and even then placing haste motes on the turrets is mostly a meme), it can be useful to not use shock motes, but this is not mentioned in the video.
I mentioned the Archon Mods because in the video you appeared not to have them (Archon Stretch and Archon Flow would've have appeared next to Aero Vantage when sorting by polarity), So I thought I'd mention the interactions with Archon Intensify and Archon Stretch in case you hadn't tried them. The fact that your suggesting Archon Stretch with Primed Flow makes me further suspect that you don't understand how Archon Stretch works (it's a flat 2 energy per second, energy max doesn't affect it so it's usually used on builds that need energy but CAN'T fit flow for whatever reason, such as in some tightly optimized Discharge nuking setups). I'll admit that, sans nourish, Archon Stretch doesn't provide that much energy utility (though you do get to have 100% uptime on it's energy regen with shock motes).
I 100% stand by using Archon Intensify over Umbral Intensify, and I won't budge on it. If you can confidently proc Arcane Avenger, then you can confidently proc Archon Intensify (taking damage consistently means you'll be healing yourself consistently). When Archon Intensify is active, It grants 16% more ability strength than a max rank Umbral Intensify (5% more if using one other umbral mod). Unless you're using 3 Umbral mods for some reason, archon Intensify is always better on wisp.
@@theninjaguy2 jesus you killed him
@@theninjaguy2 its a guide bro 💀were not year long veterans looking for the every possible way to minmax, make a vid of your own if your so worried about archon mods and other niche changes
@@rhyq5808Bruh this guide is by someone with 2500 HOURS ON WISP how is that not endgame he even talks about shards focus school and clearly has formad a bunch
Dude thank you for this video. I’ve seen a bunch but none that actually helped me understand her synergies! I appreciate this
Thank you! This took a while to make 🙏
I've been playing wisp so much since her release she actually managed to take the spot for my most used frame. For many years base Rhino was my most used because he was the first frame I farmed and used for such a long time as a new player. But recently I've been drifting further away from wisp and playing a lot of Xaku.
Almighty Xaku. The kps king himself!
Hey Moug, Im kinda new to the game and I was able to build Wisp Prime recently. Ive watched through the whole video to get through parts of her kit that I didnt understand it has honestly helped me a lot so THANK YOU. The thing you said about the passive being sooo nice to use could not have been more true. I love invisibility and I use Ash a lot for it but Wisp has it FREE OF ENERGY COST. I plan to use her more and improve my build as I go frok the noob setup right now to something better as I get into Steel Path and other things later. Thank you so much😊
Ty so much for the guide i am now a Stahlta enjoyer ❤
After more than 3000 hours in the game, I'm starting to think about focusing in the warframes I love, and I can feel Wisp is one of them. Thank you for this guy, for your time and the playtesting! Can't wait to get Wisp to level cap after understanding her enough!
I have 2189 hours on the frame and you have that on one frame, crazy crazy.
Great video. I never knew the 2 -3 combo was a thing.
Moug videos goated as always
Amazing guide ! Thank you !
Damn bro tysm i was fooled by mhblacky and this 2 Builds are just insane im using the first Build and, my guy the upgrade is amazing Im the happiest man alive now
amazing and well put together video gj
thanks dude this is gold
I was confused why I didn't see the Stahlta. Now I know.
I take it a well modded Fulmin Prime is pretty bad compared to any of the guns you listed off for Wisp Prime?
Also if I were to grind out a Stahlta ... do I need a Riven for it or is it good on it's own with the other Mods you're using (and if not without a Riven, good alternative for that slot?)
Starting playing stahlta yesterday, and now it's time for Wisp! I dont really like incarnon mecanic and was looking for a frame that can boost normal weapons and be fun to play. Is the augment for wisp 3 bad? Looks good on paper but i dont see it on your recommendations. Thank you for your guide it ll help a lot.
Its good yea, i just find myself using 3 rarely except for endless missions so i dont benefit from the augment as much
hey, great guide man, very detailed. got me thinking, wouldn't Archon Intensify be another option to snapshot strength for Reservoirs?
For sure, archon intensify is just a bit incosistent and also relies on you casting your ability twice which for a normal mission is not something I desire but it is for sure good for the first build if you dont want to waste the umbral forma
@@WispGraxxdon’t you have to cast the ability twice anyways in endless missions to refresh at 250x augmented stacks?
good content! new subscriber, fellow wisp main haha
My Kripath and Riven from 2020: "Finally, i have a purpose again"
This man is insane
Hi. Thanks for this great guide. I have a question. I want to build this set up with Stahlta and Epitaph. I don't have any of them right now, but I'm planning to invest and get them. Problem is that I'm pretty far away from Primed Sure Footed. Do you think Handspring would be enough to provide any comfortable gameplay with all those self-stagger and self-knock-downs. I dont have any self-staggering weapons right now, so I don't know about the mechanic very well. Is self-stagger from explosive weapons really a big problem in actual gameplay in high level steel path content (not intereseted in level cap endurance). Do you always get self-stagger every time you shoot? Is it that much annoying? No videos about stagger that I found on youtube give this info really. Most of them just praise PSF or suggest using 2 or 3 mod combo if you don't have PSF. Even videos comparing PSF and Handspring just compare them in terms of enemy-sourced stagger, not self-stagger. I'd be glad if you can explain this issue to noobs like me. This is the only obstacle between me and enjoying this awesome build atm.
The explosion radius for both isnt that big to interrupt gameplay a lot. Feel free to use them, stahlta being mr 10 is criminal. By far the strongest primary imo
Maybe I missed it, but you didn't get to why you shouldn't really use the Electric mote?
Strat with melee weapons
Wisp is invis in the air and the first attack (has to be melee) from invis does 700% more damage. With electric mote you lose that multiplier because u have already attacked
What would you use now instead of primed surefooted? In the video you say handspring but I think your opinion changed on that. Also - if we do not have archon shards what would you build?
I totally agree about armor and adaptation they work wonders together alot of my bulids ive started to dump shield gating in favor of damage reduction and if i still need shield gating ill run it on my companion instead
Hey Moug, I'm not a big fan of eclipse especially since it recently got a shadow-nerf and is a little more challenging to keep the buff up. Out of all the helminth abilities what do you think the closest substitute would be? I saw you mention in another reply that nourish isn't a good idea due to damage weighting. I'm currently running xata's whisper but I dont think it works terribly well with Stahlta. Would roar be my best bet?
Roar, eclipse and xata's whisper are all viable options
Eclipse didnt get any nerfs it just shows you how it actually works. Most of you just didnt know and you are suddenly calling it bad for only giving you like 300% multiplicative weapon damage most of the time instead of 600% or 75% DR
Rest assured its still conpletely insane as an ability
@@WispGraxx Awesome! thanks for the quick response. Xata's whisper feels underwhelming because it's just small white numbers I think. Don't even have regular mirage right now so I'll work on that and chuck her to the helminth. Gonna try all of them for myself :). Managed to snag an alright stahlta riven. Very much enjoying the weapon.
Still great 7 Months later? Looks great! Gonna make me get Mirage haha
Ty i was missing it
As a professional plauge star misser my forma is in critical condition.
concerning the second build i have the same on wisp prime, except 2 different mods, only 3 forma (2 normal 1 umbra, i need one more umbra to max level the 3 mods). for me, energy conversion is amar's hatred (armor/ability strength) and continuity is streamline, that way you have 15% more strength, and you are at 73% duration (22sec buff, which is more than fine running around refreshing or sitting on plants for infinite buff duration) and 75% efficiency, which i find more balanced. although i need to change zenurik school for madurai and have 40% ability strength instead of just 20%, even if i won't have the energy regen, i'll try how it goes.
Wisp with Grimoire (+60%Strength)🤤
thank yopu moug for this ivideo this has cured my ccnancer, i grew 10 cm and now own a fishing company, not to me,ntion n the raging boner i had listenenign to the gun sounds
the last part I believe
I have some questions as I'm looking to Forma my Wisp up. Would Combat Discipline be a bad choice over Growing Power here? I'm looking to run Archon Intensify (I'd be using this over Umbral intensify) in tandem with Discipline to proc Avenger more consistently. Is Eclipse still worth using since the changes? I'm looking to either use Eclipse, Roar, or Nourish as my Helminth. Is Nourish a good option?
Combat discipline on a warframe that health tanks is a horrible choice in general so except u are going for i-frames build dont bother using it. Avenger is permanently proccing without it
Archon Intensify is okay but a bit incosistent which is why i prefer umbral intensify however its still a good choice. Eclipse is generally worse than roar and nourish atm. Roar is the best option imo since it helps teammates more than nourish does (if they have a build with viral slash melee their build is no longer functioning etc). Nourish is still a great option i just feel like wisp has 0 energy issues to warrant this
Why do i use eclipse?
1. I only play solo
2. It scales better than roar with bane mods
3. It scales better than roar if your gun has multiplicative CO (im using stahlta)
Feel free to go eclipse over the other options for solo play but keep roar for squad play
Great vid. Thanku
Hey man do you do void cascade lvl cap? if so may i know what your favorite wisp setup is. Thanks.
I dont usually do it, but I have done quite a bit of disruption. Kompressa/Stahlta/Kripath is usually what i get with me
What grip and loader for catchmoon?
So i dont need adaptation for the max str build on steelpath?
Ye since most of the time u are gonna be playing with a team. With wisp prime especially, having all umbral mods maxed will give you enough tankyness paired with the extra HP but it is of course squishier than the solo build
When playing solo tho.. czcams.com/video/h44VmKYBvUg/video.html
rip eclipse
Based GWGOAT.
Translation : Greatest Wisp Gamer Of All times.
If I run the primary you recommend (staltah) think I spelled it wrong. which glaive would you reccomend with the regular wisp build. I have xoris falcor glaive prime and cerata
13:13 so can I use this build for solo play now that eclipse got nerfed? Or is there a better option?
You still can. Eclipse still feels the best to use for solo
Already asked this in another video of yours but, what exactly is your plague kripath build? and parts
Vargeet II Ruhang Plague Bokwin (Shtung also good)
Build: prnt.sc/dLbfzOKvR47J (Dispatch Overdrive in exilus is sick)
Riven: prnt.sc/mNo9osgnEhfD
@@WispGraxx Thanks alot, been checking out your channel a lot lately tryna find non meta stuff and decided to use the stahlta though my riven isn't all that
@@WispGraxx hey these links are broken, super curious about this build as a new / returning player. Also wondering if the recent damage patch changes any of this guide majorly or if its still solid. Wisp got me hooked and I wanna make her insane.
Edit: Watched the first part of your quick yap video and heard yout weapons almost all got buffed, which answers my question on them. Also what companion do you like to run?
I need the song of the kripath edit so bad but vid unavailable, is there any reupload ?
I found it. Search Re-fuzz - I’m not a vampire (NXC) I’m pretty sure
I saw your comment yesterday and tried to find it again, here is the link for it: czcams.com/video/N0_Pry5lFsA/video.htmlsi=cBnem8vPlxrET1Z-
@@WispGraxx thanks a lot
@@tangawanga7852 Was the right one, thanks bro
what hooked you or had other frames made to feel as less to wisp? (im not sure how to phrase the question but i hope u get what im saying)
I used to be a Limbo main. Generally liking ability synergies and niche mechanics
Yoo brother, could you do new video for wisp weapons pls
@@__Cilix__ i am in the process of doing a bunch of weapons rn but the weapons you see in this video still work very well. Only exception being exodia contagion
Fashion frame ?
so when Geneva Convention 2?
Hey :) with the recent eclipse change, would roar be the way to go now or is the DR relevant?
I would wait to see what the changes will be when they hit live to give an opinion. Its currently not looking good for eclipse but lets see what the final version is like
Cool! I'll be experimenting and check on your stuff again soon, love your in-depth style@@WispGraxx
Okay i hope to god you reply to this comment i know its a year late, but what is your animation set on wisp fashion? Like its twitching, i have the same skin and i really want that effect, please 😭
It's the xaku agile animation set.
What about her Fulmin? Does that make her visible?
If i only have roar right now can i just use that instead eclipse?
ye ofc :D
What build do you have for the Kripath Plague? Like what parts for Zaw is on it?
Plague bokwin and varjeet ruhang II (the crit one)
hey are all these builds still relevant now?
Ye of course! Wisp has not changed at all since then. We will see how eclipse will affect the subsume when the patch hits
What animation has your wisp got when it contorts kneels and aims the gun, it's like the exorcist
Xaku agile
I’d quite like to know the build you used on falcor
I know I'm late to the party, buuuut
Any chance of a riven for the Aeolak? 😅
is it still worth building into exodia contagion?
@@bid2081 its still good ye, xoris is also a nice option after all the nerfs
I haven’t levelled up my umbral intensify yet. Could I maybe use precision intensify?
Precision intensify big no no
Archon instensify yes or just normal intensify
can you show us your stahlta build?
It is in the video 25:56
@@WispGraxx oh yeah mb
Im a Citrine over Wisp dude but this video has piqued my interest
Citrine hands down is a better support than Wisp. But both are still great frames.
Are glaives any good with wisp? I love xoris haha
Yea all glaives are really good with wisp. Go crazy!
hey i have the exact same setup almost riven and everything for the stahlta, and running the eclipse builede not seeing nearly as much dmg any idea why?
Eclipse got nerfed
@@WispGraxx ah makes sense, still good to use in endurance runs at all? or should i swap off eclipse?
i have shock rifle stahlta skin lol the sound is weird
18:06 what focus is this? and what does this sling thing do i still don’t understand why people do it does it give buffa
mr beast
@@Huh-0.1Ok
Existe algum outro jogo parecido com warframe? Não conheço nenhum
is this still the best zaw in ur opinion a year later?
meaning ur malo tebya btw
for some reason the armor stat shows wayyy lower than 850, with same exact mods. Why is that?
do you have the blue archon shards equip for + armor ?
@@weezking I don't have any archon shards yet so that makes sense haha thank you
Also consider making sure that the azure archon shards are tauforged because if not they only give you +150 armor, but when tauforged they give 225 armor.@@doncorleon8104
He's literally me frfr
Imo i think that for the 1st build you should use archon Intensify and archon strech instead of stretch and umbral intensify, bc the fact that wisp vitality reservoir will always heal you archon Intensify will be better than umbral intensify;
Bc umbral intensify gives 44% strength, but archon Intensify gives you 30% base strength and also more 30% strength stacking to 60% for each time an abillity heals you since you you always have vitality reservoir on, then +16% abillity strength is always better to have.
And for archon stretch it does literally the same stretch does and even better bc whenever you have the shocking reservoir placed, you will gain +2 energy per second if you have a abillity that is dealing electric damage and since, even better shocking reservoir is passive (assuming that you allways keep claiming the buffs) then you will have no problem with energy, and even if you didnt had its always better than nothing
So yea i think the addition of these 2 mods are gonna make an instant upgrade, and about the shocking reservoir i know you said something about avoid its use but since you didint really explain why, then this is why im making use if it.
If im wrong on anything that i sayd please comsider telling me.
Oh yea quick edit aproving that you can 100% all the time use shocking reservoir without beying able to do finisher Kills to trigger power drain is that you can use Bronco with Dizzying rounds augment, so that wenever you shoot it you have 200% chance for the Enemy to be Open for finishers.
So yea no more worries with shocking reservoir.
Trumna = Mausolon
Copied your builds for Stahlta and Wisp but not getting even close to your numbers or red crits in general...welp
A viewer came to my discord and had similar issues. Here is 2 videos that helped him out. Maybe they will also help you
czcams.com/video/wHNfVnuQj7E/video.html
czcams.com/video/pLTpO1OJqIU/video.html
For context he had no primed cryo rounds and he was complaining he dealt 0 damage
I've got primed but seems that you are able to run Hammer Shot as your Riven has inate toxin and I need an additional mod slot to get viral@@WispGraxx
What to put on Stahlta instead of a riven?
My riven replaces Infected Clip
Thank you
@@WispGraxx is this correct? at 25:56 it shows you have : serration, cryo rounds, infected clip, crit delay, chamber, aptitute, vital sense, and then the riven mod
Hi!! Any update for Wisp Build Moug?
wdym update its still this
@@WispGraxx thx!!! 🤘🏻
is this guide still 100% viable?
99% only the zaw stuff doesnt work anymore. Anything else is 100% viable and still working
@@WispGraxxexcept eclipse being bad
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Builds still viable now ?
Yep