Answering the claims of the Qur'anist - Episode one
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2021
- In this live stream we will be discussing the phenomenon of Qur'an only movement, trying to understand the origination of this idea of hadith rejection as well as welcoming Qu'ran onlyists on to stream to defend their position.
Joining me on this panel will be
Sheikh Uthman Ibn Farooq - One Message foundation
/ @onemessagefoundation
Farid - Farid Responds
/ @faridresponds
Dr. Imran - Efdawah
/ @efdawah
Jake - The Muslim Metaphysician
/ @themuslimmetaphysician - Zábava
Bro when Adam was asked how do you do Istnja' and he replied i prostrate i laughed sooo much that i couldn't breathe anymore during the stream
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i laughed so hard that i had to do Istnja again!
for the first time i wished i laughed much but my siblings were sleeping so i eat the laugh lol. 😂
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LMFAO
Appreciate Br Farid who stayed up for us. May Allah reward you abundantly and the panel. Amin
Ya Allah my brain 🧠😩thank you for the Quran and Sunnah and Hadith of our beloved ﷺ ❤️
Thank you for hadith? Hadith advice you to drink camel urine. Do you want to drink it? Hadith order you to kill apostate. Do you want to kill them?
At first, I didn’t understand why some people are attacking Sheikh Uthman then I discovered that they didn’t like him because he is talking the truth, so these quranist are not happy with him
Well.... The truth is bitter for someone who been feed with lies that is sweet for them.
If you’re referring to me, I’m not a “Quranist”, but was only pointing out that brothers on the panel were being extremely harsh and hypocritical towards the guest speakers in cutting in on their statements and not letting them speak. I actually have a new found understanding and high appreciation for Hadith because of them, but that doesn’t excuse their behavior.👌🤲☝️✌️😇
@@U.W.Y.H.L. sorry, to generalize all of them Quranist, but to be honest, I noticed when Sheikh Uthman join any discussion,some people in the comment section always comment Sheikh Uthman is that or that blah blah blah.... , I found it funny because in my opinion I didn’t think he have any of this issue.
But it doesn’t mean who didn’t like him are all Quranist
@@mymunaraha6270 I love sheik Uthman, EFDAWAH and pretty much all Muslim speakers of today, but just as they all give their Dawah and opinions on things I do the same as a struggling servant of Allah Almighty! For instance, sheik Uthman amongst many other Muslims made these negative remarks here and there about former president Trump but I never heard anything about Trumps heinous democratic opposition except from sheik Uthman who eventually said at least both parties have negative issues! The minute I heard that, I commended him for being the first Muslim I’ve heard to at least not seem to be backing Democrats over Trump administration, which would mean they value transgender policies FOR OUR CHILDREN to taught it in schools on into Chinese Communist Party favoritism and partnerships who are reportedly and currently severely oppressing millions of Muslims! Brothers shouldn’t be overlooked and get away with making remarks and claims about things like non believers just because we “like” certain brothers! There’s no place for hypocrisy, arrogance, unfairness or intolerance in Islam.👌✌️🤲☝️😇
@@U.W.Y.H.L. I agree with you on the opinions of many of the brothers when it comes to American politics. It seems many are misinformed by the media. Whether you like Trump or not the Democrats are far worse. Support for them is literally going to promote LGBT, feminism, liberalism, and progressivism. Seems like many have fallen for the liberal propaganda. Can't understand how any Muslim can vote for a left-wing party. I love all the bothers but their political opinions are off. They repeat CNN propaganda
37:56 very important point made by bro uthman. Every muslim should know this, Being born an Arab and speaking arabic does not automatically give you an edge over other muslims, nor can you say you are more knowledgeable than non Arabs. Good catch brother uthman.
Knowing Arabic does give you an advantage or ‘an edge’ as you put it. Reading and understanding the Quran in Its original language is incomparable to relying on translations. Not to mention all the primary sources of Islam are in Arabic.
Sheikh Uthman has spent a lot of time, years in fact and untold effort learning Arabic.
If it’s not advantageous and beneficial why else did he bother?
Knowing Arabic doesn’t make you more knowledgable automatically. That’s true.
But it will help you become more knowledgeable because it gives you firsthand access to the primary sources of Islam ie Quran and Sunnah.
Knowing English doesn't make you understand the medical book, without become one of the people who practice medical
@@mohdhafiz9955 At least you'll be able to read what's written.
Lol hadithers say Arabic doesn’t matter to a Arabic Quranist but when they speak to a non Arabic Quranist they say you are automatically flawed cause you don’t know Arabic
@@mosesrocco6614 Yes it helps but maybe not knowledgeable because you need to study for that. Just like an English speaker need to study in school to have knowledge, of course, knowing English helps. At the same time, a non-English speaker can learn English and become a better student. Allahu Alam.
What an amazing exercise done by the brothers. May Allah (SWT) bless them all abundantly
Ben I love how much understanding you are and bringing brothers in the panel to understand he guest
he could put a little respect on sheik usman name instead if calling him usman
First time I saw brother Imran fired up. Hahaha i really loved the way he explains things. Inspired me and made me change my behaviour not just to non muslim people I encounter, but my family and my friends around.
May allah bless him and you all, you might not even have a clue how big of an impact u people are making.
isn't it amazing how the Qiblah as mentioned in Quran 2:143 was used to test who will follow the prophet and now it's been used for the exact same reason.
Indeed ALLAHU AKBAR
سبحان الله
I see it as another one of the miracles that this ayah is answering these misguided/rebellious people.
@Daniel I think what they're saying is that the verse itself says that the old Qibla was only assigned to differentiate between those who would follow the Messenger ﷺ from those who turn on their heel. And now that very point, that Allah assigned the Prophet ﷺ an old Qibla that is not found in the Quran, is being used to differentiate between those w ho follow the Messenger by accepting his teachings alongside the Quran, from those who turn away and reject his teachings.
@Daniel first qibla was Always Makkah
Indeed, always wonders about the interpretation although it seems so obvious now when the verse says : We only established the direction of
prayer, which you once followed, that We may distinguish those who follow the Messenger from those who turn on their heels. It is indeed difficult, except for those whom Allah has guided.
0:00:00 - Intro and panel members join
Guest
0:34:27 - The Rational Path
0:37:29 - Adam
0:44:59 - Br Imran joins the panel
0:59:10 - Sam
1:25:25 - Br Ben Iqra joins the panel
1:27:06 - Abdo
2:42:52 - another hamza
3:24:26 - Quranist
3:33:26 - hi
3:34:55 - MOHAMMED ANWAR ZAHED
3:36:03 - Alhamdulillah
3:37:49 - Amin
3:52:48 - RED PEN
3:53:45 - Final thoughts and wrap up
بارك الله فيكم وجزاكم الله خيراً
Thank you
İ like this
İ hope if this breakdown was applied on all videos and added to the video discription or 1st comment. That would be awesome.
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Jazakum'Allahu khairun . I never comment on videos but the conversation during Abdo's convo was beautiful. I am very happy to have met the panel many of them for the first time. May Allah accept from us all. Aameen. I really liked how you avoided getting too emotional and showed great empathy. BarakAllahu feehi.
I love these guys so much. Love it. More please.
May Allah preserve every single one of you and may everyone united in the Jannah.
Jazakallah khair
There was some "among us" going on with Adam. I think Adam is the "imposter".
@Cool and Pink He was on SCdawah stream last night claiming to be a Jew. LOL
@@canhaktan9674 link please
Guys I recommend you to watch Uthman Ibn Farooq he is the one in the video and his channel name is one message foundation
That "istinja" conversation was epic. From now on, whenever that guy come on any stream, the moderator should rename him as "Istinja".
Epic indeed, I laughed too hard.
I don’t think he was a fully practising Muslim but in fairness he misheard the word as everyone was laughing and speaking over him.
@@darkpantha451 some says that he is actually a christian.
@@darkpantha451 he's a Christian. He's been here before.
@@darkpantha451 how can he misheard the word when they repeatedly asked him.
Every Muslim heard it right, how come he didnt,? To make it even worse he is from the middle east.. So he is familiair with the arabic.
If he was sincere he could have told them that he is not a practising Muslim and that he just didnt know what the word istinja realy means. That would have made the panel and us sympathize with him.
But he made a fool out of himself to be honest. Not because he didnt know but because he pretended to be something he is not, even after being caught.
Dishonesty is ugly
Brother Jake's Qibla example was very helpful JzakAllah. May he continue to be a source of guidance to many of the Sunnah rejectors, ameen.
I can call you a Qu'ran rejector, my bother.
What did you learn from it that it was so helpful?
Sunnah rejectors? What sunnahh?
How many rakats in istinja?
Lol soo funny 😆
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It's ninja requires one to be quiet on the toes and quick and swift when in combat.
You're funny in a disgusting way
@@positiveali9214 You must be new here!
Awesome guests , I have been really impressed with the selection.I pray and hope Allah (swt) rewards you in this life and the next.
Have to say mashallah Ben made an excellent point when abdo came on that he is sincere and the panel should reflect this is very important as it may be a means for people to be guided.
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided" (16:25).
It's a good thing that you talk about this subject, because this was starting to get ridiculous.
dear brothers Allah bless you you are so blessed and lucky and doing great work on this planet and we love you
MashAllah love seeing Shaykh Uthman on 👍
Ben with the good manners, love the brother :)
I want to like this video million times. 👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻
@2:28:35 ....beautiful explanation Br. Ben Iqra! Masha’Allah a3layk.
Assalamu'alaikum, brothers we need to constantly check ourselves in our intentions and behaviours when inviting people to the deen of Islam. We should not laugh at people whatever their beliefs are as this could push them away from the straight path. There has become too much insulting in recent videos which we should avoid. This is where dawah crosses the line into entertainment rather than inviting people to Islam. Jazāk Allāhu Khayran
This isn't dawah 🙄
This is refuting nonsense arguments
@@HamzasDen Did PBUH go around refuting nonsense arguments or did he rather, invite to Islam? Abdo was a classic example of someone who could have been invited to the straight path, rather than belittling him.
@@SuperTehri The case about abdo was perhaps an exception. But, as soon as they realized abdo was being somewhat openminded, the tone of the panel timely changed, of course. But, all others were there as trolls and with clear intention to deceive and reject (e.g, people with little to no knowledge about the matters they delve into but deciding to falsify and bring lies and deceptions nevertheless). Such people need refutation, and people need to know how and where they lie and bring shubuha (for the sake of preservation of religion of Allah). Otherwise, these ppl will continue to lie and malign the truth (if not tackled harshly with truth - because they aren't there to learn or to know - they are there to lie and deceive (with ignorance) - whilst thinking they are right).
@@SuperTehri Forget Abdo non of them looked like Muslims. They had no idea about Islam they had no respect for Islam and Rasool. This was a bad idea. No quranist came but non Muslims found another chance to attack.
@@SuperTehri The Prophet didn't mock or laugh but we can't be on his level of charachter, but the Prophet did get passionate and used harshness when necessary. However the rest of the salaf did refute nonesense arguments.
I gotta say, Br. Jake and Br. Ben were on fire in this stream! Honestly man!
That Adam guy is a Christian, he came on the EFDawah streams before.
Yeah saw him trying to defend the trinity
Thats why Adam got caught..
Mr wood voice sound lookalike
Great work maashallah. J
Brother Uthman please take it easy my brother please let other brothers speak aswell. Would love to listen from brother Farid.Speak when it’s your turn and give chance to others. Assalam alikum
He spoke when it was his turn.
I’m soo excited to see this also Looking forward to xmuslims series!!! ☺️🥰
Syeikh Uthman and Farid are the hadits experts i think. They surely talked when the discussion went into the detail of hadits.
I wish next Syeikh uthman can joint the show much longer
May Allah bless you all
Allahumma aamiin
and you ameen
Wonderful Stream Mashallah
Finally it's back 🙌alhamdulillah 🙏☺
Love it so much,👍
Thank you Ben, the voice of reason and calm in the midst of that ganging up on Abdu. I was so glad to hear you stop that, it was getting too shouty and like a who's right competition. Like why is it so hard to speak nicely to people? I'm sure Ben and jake did not have brothers shouting at them and insisting "say you were wrong!" That made them leave their quranist lifestyle and become sunni. Probably it was with kindness and understanding and patience. Insha Allah you get clarity brother Abdo.
Insha'Allah
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
Jazak Allahu Khayran
Yeah but Abdo was not doing himself any favours. He was asking for it.
@Nas - need to come back to the Allah's Messenger and his way, Inshallahu ta'ala
@Nas - how do you know you're praying the way of Abraham, because Prophet prayed like him and he was taught by Allah. So we have to follow him, it is a case of necessity to be a Muslim.
@Nas - yeah this is pure ahlul biddah, you're inventing your own interpretation without any consideration of the Prophet. You HAVE to follow the Prophet to be Muslim, The Quran is the guidance but Muhammad provides the means otherwise you're removing him from Islam.
Just to throw in my 2 cents 😁
If we didn’t have the Hadith (the teachings and example of the prophet) on the judgement day, people would probably say we had no example to follow and no one could have reached the standard set by the prophet (pbuh). Just a thought I had anyway, that I thought I’d share
Asalaamu alaykum brothers
good point
@@starkesno1 thanks bro
The reality is that Allah gave the perfect example(Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) for Muslims to follow. So these so called "quranists" have no excuse at all. The truth hurts but it is what it is.
Exactly.
Jazak Allahu Khayran
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
Isn't the Qur'an enough an example to follow and is the Prophet's true Sunnah (was revealed in stages in his lifetime as Prophet of Allah) and from which we receive guidance from.. Isn't the Qur'an what the Prophet followed and conveyed and commanded to follow and was sent with or did he come with another book? Isn't the Qur'an not hadiths BUT the Qur'an about which the Prophet will complain against his people on the Day of Judgement "My people abandoned this Qur'an!". Isn't that what we are witnessing now.. that people prefer hadiths that clearly contradict the Qur'an (and thus cannot be from the Messenger (salallaahu'alaihi wasalam) over the Qur'an.. Does not the Qur'an warn and say "Which hadiths other than the Qur'an do they believe in!"?
بارك الله فيك 🌹
To the panel brothers the brother who called at 3:37:30 THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL AND MORE! May Allah bless ur families too. And to the brother who called in made that dua. Jzk khr May Allah grant u the same.
3:47:31 AmazIng and beautifully put by Br.Farid Masha’Allah. That was a very informative way to make us understand that Hadith. Ole brFarid u must upload more often. I love to hear you talk. Alhamdolilah and Masha’Allah I’ve always learned something profound from as I always do with Br. Imran Masha’Allah. May Allah preserve u all.
If you have a disease in your heart you have an answer to any question. Finding answer is not the goal, finding sincere answers is a challenge.
Great panel great work. 🇲🇻😊
Absolutely brilliant stream may Allah guide the Quran only guys to real Islam Ameen.
You are asking for guidance some one who follows the Qur'an which is the guidance it self? 😂
Well done Hamza. Bringing more lions into the den. That's one scary den 😂
Hamza needs to listen if he's gonna bring people on to the stream let these guys talk man!
Excellent discussion! Br. Imran, ben, jake, farid was very calm and gentle while discussing. I believe hamza and sheikh uthman needs to have more patience while giving dawah and not to interrupt after each sentence. It looks odd from my perspective as a sunni audience. Some points they made i actually wanted to know your answer as i am facing same in my circle but sheikh uthman/hamza started asking random questions!
Adam is the same guy that tried to tell Assadullah off.
Yeah thats him. He thought he knew better than asadullah who has a degree in the field they were talking about. A bit arrogant if u ask me
@@parentforlife Yeah, now he istinjaa in sujood. Lol
Video?
@@parentforlife asadullah is a jail tbf and degree isn't smth that means someone is a scholar
@@discordalt1724 i never said he is a scholar. When someone ha 's a degree in a certain field he sure knows more than a person who is in his first year of college.
People don't get a degree for doing nothing, it takes hard work, a lot of research and dedication. Im not here to defend asadullah, im just saying this from objectif observation
I have been a Muslim for less than a year, and was a Qur'anist for the first five months. I accepted the Sunnah and repented of my folly when I was brought to Qur'an 62:9, and had no explanation. I just felt my heart sink, like the meme says: "In that moment, I knew I effed up." I could not believe that as a Qur'anist, I had missed what my own book was conveying to me. Alhamdulilah He was pleased enough with me to enter into higher knowledge than this.
Congratulations, you have been misled by the Sunni mushriqeen.
What ayah did they distort to mislead you? 'Obey Allah and obey the messenger?' Or was it 'We sent the prophet making things clear?' Or maybe 'Whatever the messenger gives, take, whatever he forbids, leave it'
Did they also tell you the Quran is not derailed enough to perform simple tasks and that you shouldn't use your reason to perform wudu, salah, and pay zakat?
Perhaps they brought up the Qibla argument, claiming that any revelation must be followed even if it is not in the Quran.
Or maybe they brought up the months of Hajj argument, arguing that the prophet had to explain them to us, even though Allah said they were ma'ruf (well known)
What was it that led you away from the Quran and to shirk? What was the turning point? I'm genuinely interested in your thought process.
As for what you said about no explanation, are you aware that the Quran is fully explained?
@@Quran_Alone_Dawah Hello, again. I knew we would be running into each other more often.
No, the verses about obeying Allāh and His Messenger were not enough for me. I always retorted with, "Obeying the Qur'ān is obeying the Messenger."
Whenever I was questioned about how to pray, I never had the answer. I just thought I had not figured it out from the Qur'ān yet. But, I was determined to find the verses that held the key to my prayers... yet I never did.
I am not sure what arguments you are referring to regarding the Qibla or Hajj. These were never posed to me before.
Shirk is when you worship other idols instead/along-side Allāh Azzawajal. I do no such thing. I am not a Christian, nor a Hindu.
What lead me from Qur'ānist to Sunni, is the verse 69:9, as I mentioned in my post. I was quite shocked and even went to the Qur'ān straight away to double check. It refers to the Call To Prayer for Jum'uah. There is only one place where the Adhan is described, and that is the Sunnah. I had no choice but to concede.
I know the Qur'ān says that it is fully detailed. I am not quite sure to what context this implies, because you say that one can use their own reason to figure out wudu, salāh, and zakat? Wudu is described in Qur'ān in 4 simple steps, so I can see the logic with that one. Even zakat one can use their own heart to determine the right thing. But what of Salāh??
I, too, am interested in discussing this in a calm manner with you this time.
@@tyrellrivera 'Hello, again. I knew we would be running into each other more often.
No, the verses about obeying Allāh and His Messenger were not enough for me. I always retorted with, "Obeying the Qur'ān is obeying the Messenger."'
Mashallah
'Whenever I was questioned about how to pray, I never had the answer. I just thought I had not figured it out from the Qur'ān yet. But, I was determined to find the verses that held the key to my prayers... yet I never did.'
The key is to use your reason. Sunnis want to overcomplicate simple tasks. As soon as you look at the Quran from a Sunni lens, it will be unclear to you. Even as a Quran Alone Muslim, you were no doubt influenced by the fact that the vast majority of Muslims follow a specific method of prayer that is not found within the Quran, and you were searching for a method within the Quran that has all these details. They don't exist. For example, Allah doesn't tell you how many rakat you must perform. So why does it matter? Sunnis argue that Allah left this detail out to be passed down through hadiths. When in reality, anything not mentioned in the Quran is simply not relevant, because the Quran is fully detailed.
I was debating my Sunni friends in real life a few weeks ago about wudu. They insist that you can't do wudu just with the Quran because it doesn't contain enough steps. I tell them to use their reason to perform a simple task, but they don't think they can. They think that there is some sort of highly specific method and strict actions that must be performed, and that this is not found within the Quran, but in the hadiths.
I then asked them how do they brush their teeth. They said that's not the same, because that's simple. Yet they believe wudu is difficult, because whatever is in the Quran, they make it difficult. And I guarantee you that if Allah had told us to brush our teeth before salah, these people would suddenly decide that brushing your teeth is an extremely complicated task that requires hadiths to detail.
'I am not sure what arguments you are referring to regarding the Qibla or Hajj. These were never posed to me before.'
They argue that because the prophet was given the previous qibla which is not found in the Quran, that this proves revelation exists outside of the Quran that must be obeyed. Yes, revelation exists outside of the Quran, but that was not included in the Quran because it is not relevant to us. Any revelation that is not in the Quran is not relevant to us.
As for Hajj, they argue that Allah tells us to peform Hajj in the 4 sacred months, but doesn't tell us what the months are, and that therefore the prophet had to tell us. In actuality, Allah says the 4 months are ma'ruf (well known), which means the mushriqeen already knew what the 4 holy months were. Ma'ruf things are just common knowledge. For example, Allah tells us to go to Hajj but he doesn't give us a map of Mecca. This information is common knowledge and is expected to be known by people.
This information is passed down as common knowledge, but that is not a contradiction with the Quran alone stance, because the messenger was not given any important detail to pass down beside the Quran. Any important detail outside of the Quran was ma'ruf.
These are some of the seemingly tricky arguments that Sunnis throw out and most uneducated Quranists stumble on them because they don't understand the faulty premise that lies behind the question. Jake for example was led astray using the Qibla argument after following Quran alone for 7 years.
I will write a second reply because CZcams has a maximum comment length.
@@tyrellrivera 'Shirk is when you worship other idols instead/along-side Allāh Azzawajal. I do no such thing. I am not a Christian, nor a Hindu.'
Shirk means to assign a partner to Allah, but it doesn't necessarily mean worship. Taking other than the Quran as a source of legislation for matters of deen is shirk, because it means assigning hadiths as a partner to the book of Allah. It can also mean taking someone as your master or lord (even without worshipping them). Allah specifically warns about how the Christians would take the scholars as their lords. Christians do not worship their scholars, but they took them as their masters, which is what the Sunnis and Shias do now with their imams and sheikhs.
'What lead me from Qur'ānist to Sunni, is the verse 69:9, as I mentioned in my post. I was quite shocked and even went to the Qur'ān straight away to double check. It refers to the Call To Prayer for Jum'uah. There is only one place where the Adhan is described, and that is the Sunnah. I had no choice but to concede.'
I think you have quoted the wrong ayah. That ayah is about the pharoah. I think this is the ayah you're looking for:
"O you who have believed, when [the adhan] is called for the prayer on the day of Jumu'ah [Friday], then proceed to the remembrance of Allah and leave trade. That is better for you, if you only knew." 62:9
This once again boils down to the Quran being fully detailed, and any detail not mentioned in the Quran not being relevant. I completely understand your thought process because the call to prayer is a pretty well recognised aspect of Islam, and you see the call to prayer being done all over the world, and you cannot find this in the Quran, only the hadiths. You therefore work backwards and assume that since the hadith says this but the Quran doesn't, the hadith must be needed.
In reality, it doesn't matter how you call someone to prayer. At the time of the prophet, people didn't have megaphones. The imam had to stand at the minaret and shout out to people. Nowadays, you've got megaphones blasting the azaan with 2 mosques drowning each other out. Why? Does it make sense? But they believe this is Sunnah.
It does not matter how you call people to prayer. The imam could start a WhatsApp group chat and tell the worshippers it's time to congregate. That sounds silly, but you're calling people to prayer, and we have this technology now. It doesn't matter how you call people to prayer.
'I know the Qur'ān says that it is fully detailed. I am not quite sure to what context this implies, because you say that one can use their own reason to figure out wudu, salāh, and zakat? Wudu is described in Qur'ān in 4 simple steps, so I can see the logic with that one. Even zakat one can use their own heart to determine the right thing. But what of Salāh??'
I think I answered this further up in my comment.
That dude “Adam” was a big joke, why do some ppl feel the need to be publicly humiliated like this is beyond me.
Very unique topics thanks
All of you guys are amazing but with this topic I will pray Allah may reward Brothers Jake and Ben the best of rewards since they were Quranists and were guided back to the path of Allah and his messenger
Im confused what adam said'im a muslim',but in previous streams he defended atheism.i think he admitted there that he's an atheist as well.
Salam Farid Bro. Just to let you know I love your personality. Humble and wise. And when needed Lion lolll Love you Akhee.
Agreed.
Brother Ben is important and I think he would be a helpful moderator for streams moving forward because he understands this is suppose to be dawah at the end of the day and the main purpose is getting people to understand and accept the truth but knowing that anyone who feels their world view is attack will be defensive and will offer push back.
As salsmu alaikum beautiful brothers. Masha'Allah ❤💙
11:40 salam i'll quote you the details of the prayer .
Surah 5 verse 6 . (ablutions)
Surah 22 verse 77 for the positions that you have to do in more than the staying in the surah 5 verse 6 .
Surah 20 verse 130 for the time (there is a lot of other verses that precise each time like the surah 17 verse 78 or the surah 76 verse 25 to 27).
Sourate 87 that emphasis what the purpose of the Salat , as the sourate 20 verse 14.
Glorify God is the purpose of it whereas nowadays people juts recite verses without attention and do mechanical gestures without any purposes.
please copy and past each verse and explain it as you understood
38:31 Adam(The middle eastern guy who doesn't know what istinja is or how a sahih hadith is qualified.)
59:00 Sam(The guy who read prayer in english, doesn't know the shahadah in arabic.)
1:27:10 Abdo(A Quranist)
2:43:00 another hamza(A Quranist)
3:24:15 quranist(as Br. Hamza called him Joe)
Ustadh Farid should share his knowledge when it's necessary and the topic is his expertise. BarakAllah. I don't know if I am correct but I assume Ustadh Farid thinks he doesn't need to engage but I am very certain that he does. Allahu a'lam.
Keep up the good work my brother
Asalamualaikum ahbabi, my advice to you brothers is to not laugh at people who come on the stream as they might be sincere in thinking they are right but we know that they are ignorant. maybe the guy we were all laughing at maybe guided by Allah or he might have wanted to test you guys so that he can get answers. Please ya ikhwa dont laugh or mock what your guests say unless they are mocking the deen or our prophet peace be upon him. The level of ignorance that is out there is unbelievable at the moment. BE KIND AND GENTLE YA IKHWA PLEASE!. May Allah bless you all in the effort that you're making
Well most of the Quranists harbour contempt against the prophet pbuh. That's why they can't bring themselves to send salutations upon his person when hearing the name. So getting laughed at is the least of their problems.
@Nas - they hold contempt stop lying
Lol I like how you say muslims shouldn't laugh at kuffr. When was last time u told a sister to cover up? The fact that muslims are brainwashed by Liberalism is very sad
@@saqibm1792 Where did you hear that?
Great videos guys
MashAllah
Daily Reminder: Try to supplicate this dua/deeds every single day to become a habit.
1. Dua That Guarantees You Forgiveness (Sahih Al-Bukhari 1154)
Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) said:
"Whoever gets up at night and says:
La ilaha 'illa Allaahu, wahdahu la shareeka
lahul mulku, wa lahul hamdu, wa huwa ala kulli shayin qadeer.
Subhana allaahi, wal hamdu lillaahi, wa la illaaha ila Allaah,
wa Allaahu akbar, waLa hawla wa la quwwata illa billaah.
There is none worthy of worship in truth except Allah Alone, He has no partners, He has the Dominion and for Him is all praise, and He is capable of all things, praise is for Him, and Far is Allah from imperfection, and There is none worthy of worship in truth except Allah, and Allah is the Greatest, there is no capability nor is there any power except with Allah.
"Then he says:
Allaahumma aghfirlee.
O Allah forgive me!
Or he supplicates and his supplication is answered,
and if he makes Wudhu and prays, then his prayer is accepted.
Reference: @t
3. Dhikr that prophet Muhammad SAW says you will catch up with those who are ahead of you (in deeds) and supersede those who will come after you, and nobody will be able to do such a good deed as you do except the one who does the same.
That deed is to recite 'Subhan Allah ten times, and 'Al-Hamduli l-lah ten times, and 'AllahuAkbar' ten times after every (fard) prayer.
(Sahih Bukhari 6329) Ref: @t
4. Dua That Wipe Away Sins (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Muslim, At-Tirmidhi)
Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) said:
"Whoever says:
سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَبِحَمْدِهِ
Subhana allaahi, wa bihamdihi
(How far from imperfections Allah is, and I praise Him.)
"a hundred times during the day, his sins are wiped away,
even if they are like the foam of the sea."
(Sahih Bukhari 6405) Ref: @t
5. Phrases That Are Heavier On The Scales Than An Entire Morning Of Recitation (Sahih Muslim 2726 a) and (Sahih Muslim 2726 b)
Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) said:
"I recited four words three times after I had left you.
If these are to be weighed against all you have recited since morning,
these will be heavier." These are:
سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَبِحَمْدِهِ عَدَدَ خَلْقِهِ وَرِضَا نَفْسِهِ وَزِنَةَ عَرْشِهِ وَمِدَادَ كَلِمَاتِهِ .
Subhan-Allahi wa bihamdihi, 'adada khalqihi, wa rida nafsihi,
wa zinatah 'arshihi, wa midada kalimatihi.
“Allah is free from imperfection and I begin with His praise, as many times as the number of His creatures, in accordance with His Good Pleasure, equal to the weight of His Throneand equal to the ink that may be used in recording the words
(for His Praise).”
Ref: @t and @t
6. Dua To Stay On The Right Path (Sahih Muslim 2655)
اللَّهُمَّ مُصَرِّفَ الْقُلُوبِ صَرِّفْ قُلُوبَنَا عَلَى طَاعَتِكَ
Allahumma musarrifa-l quloobi sarrif qalbi ala ta’atik.
O, Allah! The One Who turns the hearts,
turn my heart towards Your obedience.
Ref: @t
7. Reciting Surah Baqarah and Surah Imran as it will be a shade of the Day of Resurrection
“Recite the Qur'an, for on the Day of Resurrection it will come as an intercessor for those who recite It. Recite the two bright ones, al-Baqara and Surah Al 'Imran, for on the Day of Resurrection they will come as two clouds or two shades, or two flocks of birds in ranks, pleading for those who recite them. Recite Surah al-Baqara, for to take recourse to it is a blessing and to give it up is a cause of grief, and the magicians cannot confront it. (Mu'awiya said: It has been conveyed to me that here Batala means magicians.)”
(Sahih Muslim 804a) and (Sahih Muslim 805)
Ref: @t and @t
8. Dua To Be Save From Torments Of Grave
اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ فِتْنَةِ الْقَبْرِ وَعَذَابِ الْقَبْ
Allahumma inni wa a'udhu bika min fitnati qabri wa adhabil qabri
O, Allah! Saves us from the torments of the grave.
(Sahih Bukhari 6377) ref: @t
9. Dua For The Best In The Dunya And Hereafter
رَبَّنَا آتِنَا فِي الدُّنْيَا حَسَنَةً وَفِي الآخِرَةِ حَسَنَةً وَقِنَا عَذَابَ النَّارِ
Rabbana atina fid-dunya hasanatan, wa fil'akhirati hasanatan,
waqina 'adhaban-nar.
“O, Allah! Our Lord give us all the good of this world,and the good of the hereafter,
and Save us from the punishment of the Fire.”
(Sahih Muslim 2690 a and 2690 b)
Ref: @t and @t
10. Dua Of The Treasures Of Paradise (Sahih Muslim, At-Tirmidhi)
Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) said:
"Shall I not tell you of a word which is one of the treasures of Paradise?"
لاَ حَوْلَ وَلاَ قُوَّةَ إِلاَّ بِاللَّ
La hawla wa la quwaata illa billah
There is no power and no strength except with Allah.
(Sahih Muslim 2704 g) Ref: @t
11. Dua To Literally Boost Your Energy
Before you sleep recite:
Subhana allaah 33x, Alhamdulilah 33x,
Allahu akbar 34x
(Sahih Bukhari 5362) Ref: @t
12. Dua to Recite at Times of Calamity
(Sahih Muslim 918a and 918b)
If any Muslim who suffers some calamity says, what Allah has commanded him,
إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ اللَّهُمَّ أْجُرْنِي فِي مُصِيبَتِي وَأَخْلِفْ لِي خَيْرًا مِنْهَا
" We belong to Allah and to Him shall we return; O Allah, reward me for my affliction and give me something better than it in exchange for it,"
Allah will give him something better than it in exchange.
Ref: @t and @t
13. Dua To Get Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) Help in Yawm Al Qiyamah.
Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) said:
"Whoever says the following, after hearing the call of the adhan, I will intercede for them yawm al qiyamah."
اللَّهُمَّ رَبَّ هَذِهِ الدَّعْوَةِ التَّامَّةِ وَالصَّلاَةِ الْقَائِمَةِ آتِ مُحَمَّدًا الْوَسِيلَةَ وَالْفَضِيلَةَ وَابْعَثْهُ مَقَامًا مَحْمُودًا الَّذِي وَعَدْتَهُ
Allaahumma Rabba haathihid-da 'watit-taammati wassalaatil-qaa'imatah,
Aati Muhammadanil-waseelata walfadheelah, Wab 'ath-hu
maqaamam-mahmoodanil-lathee wa'adtah.
“O, Allah! the Lord of this perfect call, and the lord of the prayer that is about to be established, grant Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)al waseela, Resurrect him with that status, that is so praise worthy,
which you have already promised.”
(Sahih Al-Bukhari 614) Ref: @t
14. Dua Forgiveness All Believers
(Sahih Muslim 2346)
Allahumma ighfir lil muslimeena wal-muslimaat, wal-mu'mineena
wal-mu'minaat
“O, Allah! forgive the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men
and the believing women”
Ref: @t
15. Benefits Reciting Surah Ikhlas
Surah Ikhlas is equivalent to one third of the Quran. (Reciting Surah Ikhlas 3 times is equivalent to the whole Quran.)
(Sahih Bukhari 5013) Ref: @t
17. Dua For Protection From Laziness
اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ الْكَسَلِ، وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ الْجُبْنِ، وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ الْهَرَمِ، وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ الْبُخْلِ
“O Allah! I seek refuge with You from laziness, and seek refuge with You from cowardice, and seek refuge with You from geriatric old age, and seek refuge with You from miserliness”
(Sahih Bukhari 6371) Ref: @t
19. Recite Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, La illaha illallah, Allahu Akbar for great Reward
“Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, “The uttering of the words: “Subhan-Allah (Allah is free from imperfection), Al-hamdu lillah (all praise is due to Allah), La ilaha illallah (there is no true god except Allah) and Allahu Akbar (Allah is the Greatest)’ is dearer to me than anything over which the sun rises.”
(Sahih Muslim 2695) Ref: @t
20. Recite this before going to bed/sleep.
When the Prophet (ﷺ) went to bed, he would say: "Bismika Allahumma amutu wa ahya."
بِاسْمِكَ اللَّهُمَّ أَمُوتُ وَأَحْيَا
(With Your name, O Allah, I die and I live)
and when he got up he would say:
" Al-hamdu li l-lahil-ladhi ahyana ba'da ma amatana wa ilaihin-nushur."
الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي أَحْيَانَا بَعْدَ مَا أَمَاتَنَا وَإِلَيْهِ النُّشُورُ
(All the Praises are for Allah Who has made us alive after He made us die (sleep) and unto Him is the Resurrection)
(Sahih Bukhari 6312 and 6324) Ref: @t and @t
Insya Allah, may it benefits you guys. May Allah grant all of us Jannatul Firdous! Ameen!
(Btw if anyone of you wants to copy paste and spread this text feel free to do so!!😊
How do i copy it?
Can they invite mufti Abu layth for next stream, that would be fun to watch.
He isnt a quran onlyist. He accepts most hadith qnd has been invyting these guys ob for years
@ÒγÓ REGIMÈ he doesn't claim to be a scholar
Albani was a self taught who didn't know his limits
Astagfirullah I feel like I was dying watching this 😂 😂 so funny, brothers laughs are so contagious, I laughed so hard 😂
Doesn’t matter if you raise the hands or not. Or the rakats. You pray how you want If it connects you to God. It’s about rememberance to God. Not just being a robot.
I have noticed that when these Quranist say the prophet's (S.A.W) name they weren't saying salawat upon him.
Anyway, this stream made me sad. Seeing my own brothers reject something they know nothing or seeing them justify something on no ground other than their own desires.
May Allah forgive us and guide us!
yes i noticed they consider Prophet Muhamamd Pbuh as common Man Naoozbillah like a Post man ..Come on it is in Quran to say Salawat Upon prophet Muhammad Pbuh it is even not hadith Issue
@heera rodriguez But Quran order is for everyone , How they can say it was for only Sahaba , What is their context .. it means they come up with their own interpretation
@Achraf Er-ramy
This is the problem with Quranist. They claim to be true followers of Quran, yet they are the most ignorant of Quran. Because if you read it, you would know why we say صلى الله عليه وسلم for our prophet and عليه السلام for Eesa.
Al-Ahzab 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّه وَمَلَٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّۚ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا
Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [Allah to grant him] peace.
As-Saffat 37:181
وَسَلَٰمٌ عَلَى ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ
And peace upon the messengers.
They are the same in status? Then why some exceed others?
Al-Baqarah 2:253
تِلْكَ ٱلرُّسُلُ فَضَّلْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍۘ مِّنْهُم مَّن كَلَّمَ ٱللَّهُۖ وَرَفَعَ بَعْضَهُمْ دَرَجَٰتٍۚ وَءَاتَيْنَا عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ ٱلْبَيِّنَٰتِ وَأَيَّدْنَٰهُ بِرُوحِ ٱلْقُدُسِۗ وَلَوْ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ مَا ٱقْتَتَلَ ٱلَّذِينَ مِنۢ بَعْدِهِم مِّنۢ بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَتْهُمُ ٱلْبَيِّنَٰتُ وَلَٰكِنِ ٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ ءَامَنَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن كَفَرَۚ وَلَوْ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ مَا ٱقْتَتَلُوا۟ وَلَٰكِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَفْعَلُ مَا يُرِيدُ
Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allah spoke, and He raised some of them in degree. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs, and We supported him with the Pure Spirit [i.e., Gabriel]. If Allah had willed, those [generations] succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to them. But they differed, and some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. And if Allah had willed, they would not have fought each other, but Allah does what He intends.
And Allaah clearly explains how تفريق is made between prophets but of course quranist won't know that.
An-Nisa' 4:150
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَكْفُرُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَن يُفَرِّقُوا۟ بَيْنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيَقُولُونَ نُؤْمِنُ بِبَعْضٍ وَنَكْفُرُ بِبَعْضٍ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَن يَتَّخِذُوا۟ بَيْنَ ذَٰلِكَ سَبِيلًا
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, "We believe in some and disbelieve in others," and wish to adopt a way in between -
Quranists only quote the first part and conveniently forget the next part about him being unique (alongside other prophets) as revelation was revealed to him.
Al-Kahf 18:110
قُلْ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۠ بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰٓ إِلَىَّ أَنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمْ إِلَٰهٌ وَٰحِدٌۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُوا۟ لِقَآءَ رَبِّهِۦ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَٰلِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِۦٓ أَحَدًۢا
Say, "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone."
Quranists don't even know what being a man like everyone else actually means. It only means he has no divine qualities and has to rely on food, doesn't know unseen etc. and has nothing to do with status.
Al-Anbiya 21:7-8
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيْهِمْۖ فَسْـَٔلُوٓا۟ أَهْلَ ٱلذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
وَمَا جَعَلْنَٰهُمْ جَسَدًا لَّا يَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَمَا كَانُوا۟ خَٰلِدِينَ
And We sent not before you, [O Muhammad], except men to whom We revealed [the message], so ask the people of the message [i.e., former scriptures] if you do not know. And We did not make them [i.e., the prophets] forms not eating food, nor were they immortal [on earth].
Al-An'am 6:50
قُل لَّآ أَقُولُ لَكُمْ عِندِى خَزَآئِنُ ٱللَّهِ وَلَآ أَعْلَمُ ٱلْغَيْبَ وَلَآ أَقُولُ لَكُمْ إِنِّى مَلَكٌۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَىٰٓ إِلَىَّۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِى ٱلْأَعْمَىٰ وَٱلْبَصِيرُۚ أَفَلَا تَتَفَكَّرُونَ
Say, [O Muhammad], "I do not tell you that I have the depositories [containing the provision] of Allah or that I know the unseen, nor do I tell you that I am an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me." Say, "Is the blind equivalent to the seeing? Then will you not give thought?"
I wonder which people don't like to obey a prophet (sounds familiar) as he is only a man.
Al-Mu'minun 23:33-34
وَقَالَ ٱلْمَلَأُ مِن قَوْمِهِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ وَكَذَّبُوا۟ بِلِقَآءِ ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ وَأَتْرَفْنَٰهُمْ فِى ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنْيَا مَا هَٰذَآ إِلَّا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يَأْكُلُ مِمَّا تَأْكُلُونَ مِنْهُ وَيَشْرَبُ مِمَّا تَشْرَبُونَ
وَلَئِنْ أَطَعْتُم بَشَرًا مِّثْلَكُمْ إِنَّكُمْ إِذًا لَّخَٰسِرُونَ
And the eminent among his people who disbelieved and denied the meeting of the Hereafter while We had given them luxury in the worldly life said, "This is not but a man like yourselves. He eats of that from which you eat and drinks of what you drink. And if you should obey a man like yourselves, indeed, you would then be losers.
The Qur'an makes it wajib to send salat on the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam
Adam puts on different personas and belief systems depending on which stream he's on.
When the theme of the discussion is "Islam Vs. Greek Mythology", maybe Adam the son of Zeus will join. And the following week when the theme is "Who was Confucius", we can expect some guy called 'Ah Dam' joining.
MashaAllah this gamer Ben is so wise.
Salaam brothers I had a lot of respect for u all .it saddens me to see the unprofessional attitude laughing not having the patience to listen and give the caller a chance ,.what a joke. Brother uthman I expected more from you .only patience brothers are Manson ,Hashim,Abbas’s and the doctor ..thank God for brother Shabir yusur words apart
SubhanAllah, I never comment on CZcams videos but this is so really sad, I couldn't even watch it all.
I'm a revert to Islam of 3 years and I'm finding this type of content and the demeanour of the dawah scene of late is really off putting.
The panel are not helping convey the beautiful message of islam and are instead laughing and mocking others, SubhanAllah what they don't seem to understand is that some people of this Ummah don't have any support or guidance from the community, hence try to follow islam to the best of the knowledge that they have. I know its not the best to gain knowledge from the Internet etc but sometimes that's all they have.
May Allah subhana wa tala bless us and protect us all from being misled and lead us all on the right path.
Ameen
You should be commenting on the nonsense the callers were coming on with, and their level of ignorance and arrogance 🙄
Yes, I understand that also but I think that the approach taken towards the callers was done in a harsh sort of mockery manner. It’s just my opinion as a humble sister.
As salamu alaikum rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
Yes it was as those callers were trolls
i don’t think this is supposed to be put that way which i agree with you i hope their going to do dawah which is through debates
A lot of people reverted to islam through debates ofc im not talking about mocking and insulting im talking about respectful debates !
But sometimes the arguments that the opposite side bring is just too funny !
Salam C Lawrence, in Islam refutation is something that is a obligation upon the Ummah and on those with knowledge. Its to clear the falsehood so Islam at its purest will be shown to the people.
The Prophet alayhi salatu wa salam conveyed the message of Islam and the way he did it was the way Allah told Him to do, to forbid the evil and enjoin the good. So in the Quran, the Quraysh are being refuted left right and center. The Christians as well, The Jews as well and so on. The scholars of Islam refuted every deviant sect since without all of this, the beautiful message of Islam would have never reached us, most likely that is.
So Hamza and others are refuting the evil deviants which reject half of Islam and make a own religion, this is more dangerous than anything the Christians can come up with and this benefits the Ummah, the Sunnah and the correct Islam is the only Islam and those who reject Hadith are worst of deviants among many others. This also gives them a opportunity to be sincere and truly see how they are upon falsehood and Inshalaah they will be guided.
We need well verse scholars to deal with this type people. Student of knowledge can answer but learned men would be better
Do you know shykh Uthman, and other people they are full of knowledge brother get to know them first, they have been dealing with these people everyday for many years
They are being humble when they say they student of knowledge
Sheikh uthman has masters in hadith studies. And “students of knowledge” have far higher knowledge than you think. Dont even think we need someone better than them to deal with these jokers.
MashaALLAH
I think the problem are (1) establish the different between HADIST and SUNNAH....
(2), goes into how to understand Al-QUR'AN, (3) SUNNAH or HADITS rejection reasons
The name Quranists is misleading. their true name is Sunna rejecters.
@The Sufficient Qur'an Nope! Your statement is false and baseless. You cannot back it with any evidence. Try again
May ALLAH SWT guide brother Abdu to right path. Ameen
Amin, he has messaged me
@@HamzasDen Ma sha Allah 👍
لقد كان لكم في رسول الله أسوة حسنة لمن كان يرجو الله واليوم الآخر.
Indeed in the prophet of Allah, you have the best example to follow for those who believe in returning to Allah and the day of judgement..
Quran 33:21
Love the questions posed for the " Hamza" quranist.
When you waste 10 years bc didn´t learn AlFatihah - so sad
Fake Muslims. All pretending
Hamza stopped Adam, thank God.
We need EP 2
Allah tells us follow the muhajiroon and ansar and those who come after them simple as that, so what they did and how the messenger taught them gets given to their student and their students etc etc
Be respectful of your guests. The Prophet though us to do do... It's part of our faith. Abdo is a new Muslim, help him like the MUHAMMAD would have done. Thanks Br. Ben.
Sadly it seems nowadays some scholars are more into "trashing" other people and raising their voice when Allah even told Musa to speak to Firoun out of all people with gentle words...
I defer with you , a new muslim doesn't give you the right to innovate the religion, plus he is not coming from , i don't know i want to learn , rather he came to say that he have the truth, we don't need to be emotional when we deal with such thing
Allāh has told us in the Qur'an to be polite in conversing with the Jews and Christians except for those whom transgress.
@@muhammadaaus105 that is exactly what they do when they spit lies about islam , when it comes to religion it's the ultimate transgression
Brothers next time Please do not laugh and make such fun just speak to them and go on with the conversation ,just talking over each other over and over is really No Benefit. Because we really want to know and learn why they reject Ahadeeth so that we can response in the best Manner so that they ponder on it. Well done Brother Ben !! just interfere when it goes out of control
Hamza asalamualekum please bring episode 2 of this topic
I really hope we can see a debate against Shia.
Let me ask you something.
But a little history first before making my point.
History:
The prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, recites the Qu'ran during the last 22 years of his life. The Qu'ran was compiled a few years later under the rule of Uthman, so during these first years the early judges and jurists used the Qu'ran primarily as a source of law, but also complemented this with personal reasoning (Ra'y) as well as Sunan (plural of Sunnah) that was a general ideal of the community and respected people, including, of course, prophets Muhammad's, peace be upon him, that was taken as inspiration. Hadiths, stories of the prophet Muhammad and his companions were probably told and spread early on but were not written down nor compiled (this is key) and were rarely used in legal matters. But as more questions began to raise regarding practices in the new expanding empire, there were a group of people called the TRADIONALISTS who over the course of the 8th and 9th centuries started to argue for a more strict practice of Islamic law as well as theology. They were often very opposed to Ra'y, individual reasoning from the jurists and judges (look at Hamza when asking in another video how to interpret ambiguous verses of the Qu'ran, he simply doesn´t know what individual reasoning is) and they started to favor and gather the Hadith and applying it in matters of law.
To sum it all up:
Early practice
1. Qu'ran and Ra'y (reasoning) and Sunan
2. No extended use of hadiths or the Prophet's Sunna exclusively
3. More emphasis on intelect and personal reasoning in matter of law and theology.
Traditionalists:
1. Wanted to minimizemthe use of personal opinion
2. Started to argue in favor of, and gather, hadith.
3. More bound to textual sources
4. Often synonymous with the group called "ahl al-hadith" (People of Hadith)
That was such a heated debate (political not religious FYI) that the Caliphs got involved. These are generalizations, of course, since there could be a spectrum of opinions going from one side to the other. But to sum it all up again, for different reasons (most of them political in my opinion) the traditionalists will eventually gain the upperhand in the second half of the 9th century (3 centuries after the death of the Prophet, peace be upon him) and was very much cemented on the ideas of Imam al-Shafi'i, founder of the Shafi'i law school, who formulated the classical suni Usul Al-Fiqh jurisprudence.
From then on sources were:
1. Qu'ran
2. Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (exclusively, as opposed to broader "sunan")
3. Consensus (ijma)
4. Analogy (qiyas)
5. No room whatsoever for personal reasoning (but al-Shafi'i's ;D)
We are done with history now. Now there we go. Sunis ain't gonna like this. You all are warned.
In the Quran it is mentioned plenty of times how Jews and Christians manipulated the scriptures given by Allah. Most of them, don't even exist today as they were revealed. Tora: manipulated. Injiil: Gone.
Hadiths aren't even revealed books, but compilations gathered 2 centuries after prophet Muhammad's passing, peace be upon him. Compilations gathered at a time when "mainstream" Islam was being established.
So, what prevents Bukhari and Muslim (and all Ahl al Hadith compilers) from having done the same considering the collections were compiled no less that 250 years after the death of the Prophet. I'll tell you. Nothing. Plus, at the time when Ahl al Hadith began compiling hadiths, there was a political upheaval regarding what kind of Islam would be established as mainstream. So, in my opinion, hatidhs, even though some may be real, are simply guesswork (with obvious political intention) and filled with contradictory, blasphemous and absurd traditions as Caliph al-Ma'mun (d.833), and scholars like Wasil ibn Ata (d. 748), al-Jahiz (d.868), Dirar ibn 'Amr (d. 815) and Ibrahim al-Nazzam (d. 825) correctly pointed out.
As you probably can imagine, I am a Qu'ranist.
See you around.
Peace
Cope.
"The Qu'ran was compiled a few years later under the rule of Uthman"
A few? Lol there was Abu Bakr and Umar before him as rulers. Thats a few decades.
Hadith did not start with Bukhari, there was several before. Seems like you do not know history yourself.
It’s interesting Abdo said the non Muslims prayed before but what would’ve been good to understand is if abdo observed some of the obligatory action in prayer eg read Surah Fatiha (this came with Islam and not from Ibrahim), tashahud (the non believers can’t say this) he wanted in his heart to say Muslims get it from Hadith but his nafs and arrogance stopped him to say the truth
Eventhough 3xs a day..how they know how to pray? What to recite when to sujud or rukuk?
I agree discord is quite good for thing like this, however some people may struggle to use discord
These Quranests are the Paul's of Islam.
From an outsider it looks like the hadith is actually paul adding things that didnt happen. Quran is perfect it doesnt need anything and the only book from God
None of the quransits say (صلى الله عليه وسلم) after mentioning the the Prophet's name.
It's mentioned in the quran:
﴿إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا﴾ (الأحزاب-٥٦)
اللهم استعان.
@Nas - it says
صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
@Nas - do you understand arabic?
@Nas - what does صلوا mean?
@Nas - you clearly don't know arabic. What part of
صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Do you not understand, Allah is commanding the believers to say salah and salam upon the prophet.
@Nas - P. S. In the QURAN Allah does not forbid making bid'a directly, but he directly commands the muslims to follow the prophet muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم). So in truth your way is a bid'ah.
Respect to all of you doing this video. Guys is it possible to refute people like Christian prince, Ahmed and other ex muslims.
AL IMRAN 3:31(O Messenger!) Tell people: 'If you indeed love Allah, follow me, and Allah will love you and will forgive you your sins. Allah is All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate.'
When Sam asked, "does the Quran clearly tell us to pray 5 times a day". Easy answer: "no but the Quran clearly tells us to follow the final Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)"
It does say to pray 5 times a day
Brothers there are too many of you against each caller .. do you really need 5 people against each individual thst calls? And also have patience to listen to the callers points regardless of how wrong they maybe.
They're changing the goal post so no
@@discordalt1724 who is changing the goalposts? No matter how goalposts they change no doubt 2 brothers could easily handle it.
@@khalidpervez9927 the point is that if they change goal posts they shouldn't be heard out because it's dishonest and a waste of time
@@discordalt1724 then in that case my original point is irrelevant to your response no )
@@khalidpervez9927 you said we should listen to them and I said not if they're changing the goal posts
nice stream
As salamu alaikum Sheikh.. is it haram if I praying my own language during supplication but not Fard
Sam proudly says he follows Quran but he can't even recite Quran in its original language which was revealed by Allah to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him🤦♂️. Sam doesn't have respect to Quran and the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him at the same time. I would never call him a follower of Quran. Sam is "desireist" not "quranist" and he is following his own desire instead of following Allah's commands. Stop being arrogant Sam. Follow Allah and His messenger (pbuh) because Allah said so.