Complete Guide to the GAME COLOR range!! - Vallejo Game Color 101
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I recently switched to Game Color/Xpress paints, and I absolutely love the longer working times! It allows me to spend that extra time getting some smoother results!
EXACTLY!
I’m from Australia and in summer paint drying on the brush too quickly in the warmer climate is a huge problem so longer drying times will save me having to add paint retarder medium to everything.
Fantástico tutorial Juan!
Gracias!
Awesome paintjob including the first steps in the range. Please: MORE, give us MORE, please!
Happy to oblige!
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Clase magistral, como siempre. Gracias
Gracias
Fantastic video! It would be great to see someone using Vallejo's Game Color Wash paints, as they behave quite different from other washes/shades on the market!
Yeah! They asked me to do just the normal Game Color range though. I will see if they want to expand on the video!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I'm eager to get my hands on all the newly improved Vallejo paints, a refresh of the range was needed.
Indeed! The difference is amazing
I’ve used a few colours and I’m new to painting but I’ve noticed you can think your highlights to a wash consistency and it will still leave a bright finish. The pigment is solid and powerful even when thinned
Yes! The pigment quality is amazing and the pigment density is insane
Sick Green is my workhorse base for my Salamanders- the bubbling drives me mad though - any time it touches water. I don't overload, agitate once applying to the model and i always have to check for a stray bubble that need popping. If don't catch it will dry with the bubble.
I've seen your reply, just adding to the chorus. Maybe its been fixed but this was 4 months ago.
Going up in the world! Great to see you continue to work with Vallejo. They make some wonderful paints.
My experience with old Game Color is limited, but the ones I used were a tad glossy. The new ones are some of my favourites however. Insanely smooth paints.
Thanks
Thanks for the video Juan, they are pretty good from few I have tried out; now, hopefully, Vallejo will ask you to do Model Color as well 😁
Me too! At the very least they are going to send me the full range to make a review
The model color range is awesome to😊
It really is
Thanks for the guide. Can you comment on the bubble issue? Even in the video you can see a lot of bubbles forming on the mini. How do you deal with that?
I already answered this, so I will copy and paste the answer:
I personally have never seen this issue in my day to day painting and it's not due to being slow or methodical.
I've used these paints, as I state in the video, for my live masterclasses where students use them and not a single one of them had this issue at all. Some were experienced and most were regularly novice painters.
I still can't understand how people have this issue, and I say this with the most respect here. You can see me applying a basecoat here with lots of paint and not a single bubble in the end result, you can also see how smooth and uniform the basecoat is after drying.
I suggest you apply the paint more carefully and try to be gentler. Using a large soft haired brush will help you out in covering more area while being more deliberate in the application. If some bubbles form try blowing on them gently. That always helps and not only while painting, blowing gently solves most problems in life.
Cool vid
Always good to see a content creator making a decent living from their channel through sponsorship etc, rather than doing it in their spare time from a job job
What I appreciate is the transparency . He clearly states that the video is sponsored by Vallejo. Unlike all the youtubers reviewing AP Fanatic.... Kudos to JH!
But most of them have been saying they got the paints from Army Painter....
It's important to be clear about those things.
@@pridak4567 Sure, but then you expect "I got the paints for free, but I am trying to still provide a fair review". That's how say, movie reviews tend to work: No reviewer ever plays for their early previews, but they can give bad reviews. On the fanatic paints, there are some obvious issues none of those reviewer mention, like how putting coverage first makes some colors more than a little off.
At first I misinterpreted your comment and thought you meant the paints were transparent. 😂😂😂
am a student, so slowly replacing all my drying up citadel pots with these amazing paints will take time, but already my Lamenters and a house Hawkshroud imperial knight look amazing and i cant wait to try out some other factions.
YES
Thank you for this super understandable video! I'm slowly but surely switching from Citadel to Vallejo paints (not for the contrast ones and a few specific color which are fantastic from Citadel) and I must said that, most of the time, I prefer the Vallejo. I had huge hope for the new Army of painter Fanatic, carefull my experience is based only on one "triad" (6 colors) but I'm not convinced even though their are a huge improvement from the last version!
Happy to help!
I found myself using the Game Color paints more and more in my daily painting and I never looked back.
I, sadly, disagree and it is very unfortunate. I'm further worried about Vallejo.
New Game Color is one of the worst ranges I've painted with. Laying down a base leaves more bubbles than any other thicker or thinner (diluted) range. Of course, you can find even worse, but I would never recommend GC to a beginner or advanced painter for any reason. One thing Citadel knows is a lot of new painters just want their layers to go down, and don't use (nor should be expected to use) wet pallets. And advanced painters can use any paint, it's a matter of it is quality. AK paints are far superior in quality, nearly any other paint line is better for beginners. :(
Vallejo is my very favorite of all the game companies. They further face problems getting their paint line to the US with customs for some reason now, and that hurts even more. Their overall lines are the best, but recently, they have made bad decisions. Their 'contrast' line is also very disappointing in coverage from what I've used. I only pick up the GC and contrast now to support my FLGS, and I believe, bit by bit, they are looking to other lines. A big problem with Vallejo is if you don't also carry their model color, there is a real question as to why to carry their other products in the store. Competition is rough, I hope Vallejo kills this bad direction they've gone in, and survives. Come on, Vallejo, you can do MUCH better!
Love the video and I love Vallejo, I haven't bought many of the new game colors yet. How is the new Vallejo black in comparison to the old one that was pretty glossy?
This one is matte. That being said it's not my favourite paint of the range as I prefer a black that's a bit more satin
Hmm, interesting. I'd missed the slow drying time, I might have to try some game colours / new model colours. These new Vallejos also have some of the best bottles around!
Bottles are AMAZING
This was great cause i bought a game color when the model paint i needed was out, always wondered what the actual difference between the Vallejo brands were
I'm doing a review soon where I address that question
Hey I love the channel, and thank you for all your tips. Which size brush are you using here to do the highlights on the horse?
I can't remember but probably my Series 7 size 3
Gracias, Juan!
Nice intro to the line. Would love to see them make complementary colours for the existing range or a chart of existing colours that are complementary.
My review is coming soon and I address this issue
The bubbles in this range are so, so bad. And now Model Color looks like it will have the same problem. I really don't like how they haven't even addressed this. If you thin a lot or paint fast at all they are useless.
I already answered this so I will just copy and paste my response:
I personally have never seen this issue in my day to day painting and it's not due to being slow or methodical. I'm very fast painting usually.
I've used these paints, as I state in the video, for my live masterclasses where students use them and not a single one of them had this issue at all. Some were experienced and most were regularly novice painters.
I still can't understand how people have this issue, and I say this with the most respect here. You can see me applying a basecoat here with lots of paint and not a single bubble, you can also see how smooth and uniform the basecoat is.
I suggest you apply the paint more carefully and try to be gentler. Using a large soft haired brush will help you out in covering more area while being more deliberate in the application. If some bubbles form try blowing on them gently. That always helps and not only while painting, blowing gently solves most problems in life.
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I kinda find this confusing since you can already see some aspects of it in your video on your palette. I usually "stab" my paint on for basecoats, which really agitates the formula and makes the bubbles. One of the only other CZcamsrs to talk about these paints, Stahly, has also come out and admitted it's a problem with the range.
It is very replicable, so I don't know why it's not a problem here. Compare it to another paint in the same session and you'll see what people are talking about. You can also see it happen in Angel's videos and he likewise just refuses to acknowledge that it's happening.
I know I should consider this an add, but since you use them yourself, I wanted to ask how you get around the bubble issue.
When you showed the separation of the brown on the palatte and remixed it, I noticed the same bubbles I came to dread with this range. How do you deal with it?
I'd love to know as well. These bubbles issues are what keeps me from buying a larger number of them. Seems like it can be incredibly annoying and frustrating.
I found this issue first hand with the Plague Brown color as i applied it. Very frustrating problem that requires a conscious effort to deal with and it's not perfect. Would love to see an official comment on it.
I personally have never seen this issue in my day to day painting and it's not due to being slow or methodical.
I've used these paints, as I state in the video, for my live masterclasses where students use them and not a single one of them had this issue at all. Some were experienced and most were regularly novice painters.
I still can't understand how people have this issue, and I say this with the most respect here. You can see me applying a basecoat here with lots of paint and not a single bubble, you can also see how smooth and uniform the basecoat is.
I suggest you apply the paint more carefully and try to be gentler. Using a large soft haired brush will help you out in covering more area while being more deliberate in the application. If some bubbles form try blowing on them gently. That always helps and not only while painting, blowing gently solves most problems in life.
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I've been using Vallejo paints for probably close to 2 decades. I love the brand and i was excited to use the new formula game color range. I say this with the utmost respect, it's certainly an issue only with their new formula and only certain colors. I assure you, i know how to apply paint :)
That said, it seems to mostly occur in recesses. So as you paint towards a recess, the bubbles appear. To your point, I have found that blowing gently does help. I've also found that sort of gently disturbing the area with the brush helps as well but even then i still get SOME small micro bubbles. The main issue is that if you don't catch them while they are still wet, it dries leaving a sort of mottled raised texture.
I live in the states, so i don't know if our formula is slightly different or if shipping it had some adverse affects. I don't know if shaking the pots to much causes it. I don't know if dilution with water is what causes it. But I can say that plague brown specifically caused the issue and the other paints I've used (some greens and other browns) i didn't notice the issue.
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Honestly, I'm a bit surprised by this answer because I can see bubbles in this video. 2:30 on the palette, when you mix the colour. 2:44 when you put this paint on the horse. 4:20 when you mix the separated colour back together 5:10 between the saddle and the reins there are a couple of dried (?) bubbles leaving white spots.
Am I the only one seeing those?
No sé por qué no me ha notificado el nuevo vídeo 😢
Gran vídeo juan, muy chulo el caballo!!👏👏
CZcams me odia
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures 🫂
Buenos días señor ,gracias por la review, tendremos más sorpresas de la gama xpress o ya se considera cerrada? Algo como las speedpaint metálicas?
Está cerrada y gracias!
Buenas en el Patreon los tutoriales están en español también???gracias
Por desgracia no, pero estoy trabajando en empezar a poner videos en castellano. Estate atento al anuncio en redes de cuando empiezan
There are a few colors from the extra opaque colors that made there way over to the new game color line. Is there a color similar to heavy sienna in the line? I often used that color for the deep shadows of orange armor and skin tones.
The most similar would probably be Charred Brown but that might not be what you are looking for.
My suggestion is to look in the Model Color range, I'm pretty certain you will find a suitable brown there
I’ve had original Vallejo Game Colour/Game Air as my main paint for years, absolutely love that range.
Is there much difference between the old and new game colour range?
Oh yeah, the new one is SO MUCH better!
I'm using the entire new GC range without the washes. The few bought were for comparison purposes since I make my own and have not experienced any bubble issues. That said I rarely use washes and only sparingly but the core paints are top notch and cheaper than any other comparable paint lines.
Thanks!
I would have thought you would have put a quick link to a online resource for the paint.
Fantastico
Gracias 😊
Thank you so much for this video.
Some colours in the range don’t fall in any BSL triad. Specifically Cayman Green, Khaki, Desert Yellow, Earth, Bronze Brown, Plague Brown, Leather Brown and Beasty Brown.
Do you have any recommended BSL triads for these?
That would be way too long to answer but for example I would highlight Cayman with Camouflage and shade it with Dark Green.
You can always find two suitable colours that work well even if you have to sometimes mix a bit to bridge a large gap.
Game Color and Model Color have been designed to be symbiotic, so you will be able to find the colours you need in that range.
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures thank you Juan!
Excellent video. Thanks JH!
😘
Thanks Juan, nice effect
Thanks for watching!
I would've loved to try these paints out but even a year (or maybe even more) after release the whole range is still not available in the UK. Army Painter it is then...
So what about the bubbles , I've been trying to take it easy on mixing them and still bubbles that don't pop and show up on the finish , yes I love the colors and the way they work but this mixing issue is unacceptable.......maybe it's just me anyone else having issues with little bubbles
How is it going? Have you been able to fix bubbles?
Any chances to covert he metallic and special effect? I'm curious to see your thoughts on those :)
I cover the metallics in my TMM 101 video, it was released not that long ago. As for the Special FX range, I don't use it ever so I have no idea
Hoping they sell a completed set box. I have seen one at all
Yes, they are working on it.
@Juan, I get that this video's sponsored, so I'm not sure if you can give a clear answer. But, if you had to choose between the new VGC and DC’s Two Thin Coats, which would you go for?
I can totally answer that question. Sadly I've never used the TTC range so my answer has to be that I don't know.
The only metric I can use for comparison is the price which is not even close here in Spain (reason why no shops here sell TTC paints)
Qué alegría da escuchar ValleJJJJJJJo en vez de "Valueho"😂😂😂😂😂😂
Más me vale decirlo bien, tendría delito ....
Love your videos Juan. Youve taught me a lot. I've now learnt now the theories behind many painting tricks from you. If only i could get them from my brain to my brush tip. Lol
Never give up, it's all about practice
Is there something one can look at to see the recommended triads for VGC stuff out of curiosity?
Their brochure pdf has suggested triads www.vallejoacrylics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/CC266-Game_Color-NewIC-Rev01-1.pdf
They are not set in stone or a hard rule. It's just the range is displayed in your shop in a way that helps you out when picking the colours you need.
I will ask Vallejo if they have a chart !
Hi how do you know which color belongs to which BSL group. Is there a full color chart of the paint range somewhere?
Hey, you can find the whole raid description on the vallejo site. It's in pdf format and it even has a handy chart giving you the citadel counterparts if you want to paint along with you tubers who use those.
I didn't know that! Do you have a link by any chance?
Been waiting for a video like this !! 😘😘
Thanks babe 😘
They need to pull their finger out and release some decent paint sets for Game Color, Express Color etc.
As far as I know they are working on doing sets
Mi opinión personal como usuario de toda la vida de vallejo Model color: cuando salió la nueva gama Game con formulación mejorada me lance a ella...y me arrepiento, los rojos independientemente de si es "base" "sombra" o "luz" no cubren absolutamente nada sobre imprimación negra, capas y capas y capas ...sin resultado, he tenido que usar la ultima luz para conseguir algo decente y esa queda "grumosa" por mucho que diluya. Los turquesas algo mejores, no se si es fallo del rojo. Seria interesante dada tu colaboración con vallejo que mostrases una comparativa de pinturas de la vieja model color (que destacaban por su alta pigmentación) vs la nueva formulación, temo que el cambio los eche a perder.
Como dato positivo el tiempo de trabajo extra que da el secado mas lento si que es útil.
have you had the bubble problem I keep seeing?
No, ever since I got them on release and neither have any of my students in my masterclasses where I take them for them to use.
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures seen lot's of complaints about it must be luck of the batch
@Switchblade39 maybe or just bad habits when painting. The problem is when you point that out, people get upset and I understand it to be fair.
The thing is I've never experienced it with Game Color or the new Model Color but I won't ever negate others experiences. I was very surprised when people pointed it out and I couldn't understand what their problem was and I still can't
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Stahly (Tale of Painters) on yourtube showed how it can be a problem. I'm not sure why people would get upset over a brand. no paint is perfect it's just what is best for you.
I've been mainly using Vallejo but I haven't been a fan of the update as the new tips tend to leak constantly over the tip, and my fav red has been changed in color and now I have to look for an alternative :(
Some others are indeed nicer to use like the bone white but the tip is still annoying
Yeah some colours changed and that's always annoying and frustrating. The tips can indeed leak a bit, I personally don't care but I understand how that can be a problem
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures the leaking has just been very bad for my black were my handd get regularly covered in it 😅
But overall the new ones are nice ^^
@SpooKimi OUCH
Still don't know the difference between game color and model color. And now mecha is added...
The main difference is the colour selection.
There are slight differences in formulation but it's basically the colours.
The King of Contrast is dead.
LONG LIVE THE GOD EMPERAH OF GAME COLOUR PAINTS!!!!!
I still use and will keep using contrast but for my day to day painting which is mostly busts and large scale I do prefer Game and Model Color
@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures will you paint some large scale stuff or a bust on this Channel anytime?
@Sakurajima616 yes , working on it
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Blue is the worst color
Blue is worse!
YES
White is worst.
WHICH IS WHY BLUE IS WORST!
You lost me at "you need two coats"
Sorry
I love the new game color and I never have any bubble issues. I use them a lot and I am wondering how this problem happen to so many painters in the comments?
Same here, I really don't understand it.
The redgrass wet palette is just horrendously overpriced, green stuff world is cheaper and performs the same, paper is actually better at gsw
I don't agree on the paper, I think the redgrass re-usable is the absolute best paper ever made and also I refuse to buy anything GSW makes or promote them in any way shape or form.
That's just a personal preference and I don't care or judge what others do.
Vallejo gets some nice advertising, we get a nice tutorial, and you get paid. Win/win/win.
The last win is the best one!