Masato Shiono - Fantastic Chopper (Japanese Defender)

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  • čas přidán 25. 03. 2017
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    / top8tt Masato Shiono (塩野 真人) is a Japanese table tennis player. He plays defensive style. Chops the ball with long pips from backhand side and chops, topspins and push the ball from forehand side with inverted rubber. Masato Shiono game is very entertaining, reminds a lot to Koji Matsushita.
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    Masato Shiono Bio and results:
    Date of Birth: 30th April 1986
    Style: Defensive; " chopper"
    2013 Winner of Czech open and Japan Open
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Komentáře • 110

  • @LunaticOtaku
    @LunaticOtaku Před 7 lety +44

    Thanks for the videos, i'm new in the world of ping pong and defensive players are the ones that i enjoy watching the most.

    • @Top8TT
      @Top8TT  Před 7 lety +7

      Thank you for watching!

    • @teddanville6996
      @teddanville6996 Před rokem +1

      defenders are only fun to watch when they play against an attacker, and at pro competition. If you watch 2 defenders play against each other you're gonna hate table tennis for it. Also if the level of 2 players are low, club level for example, the game will be super boring as well.

    • @cmpf3158
      @cmpf3158 Před 11 měsíci

      then be a modern defender.

  • @over_subtle
    @over_subtle Před 7 lety +36

    He always reminds me of Koji Matsushita.

  • @PharmerThai
    @PharmerThai Před 7 lety +91

    Smile (Mr. Tsukimoto), is that you?

  • @sharathsh9987
    @sharathsh9987 Před 5 lety +8

    That last point with Timo though.

  • @user-ru7yl1ek7c
    @user-ru7yl1ek7c Před 7 lety +4

    ほんと凄いわ。本当にお疲れ様でした

  • @TyrionUnderhill
    @TyrionUnderhill Před 5 lety +2

    Amazing!

  • @user-zy4cv5yg8b
    @user-zy4cv5yg8b Před 5 lety +2

    Это же одно сплошное волшебство.

  • @ungsiadi9201
    @ungsiadi9201 Před 5 lety +4

    Very , very excelent choper and defensive hard mentality.thanks

  • @Bendelan
    @Bendelan Před 7 lety +1

    unbelievable...

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shiono was acrobat, like Koji Matsushita.

  • @tonycorazonoficial8692
    @tonycorazonoficial8692 Před 2 lety +1

    Sehr gut.👋👋👋

  • @dr.plague1944
    @dr.plague1944 Před 3 lety +1

    God of chop

  • @martapurakalsel9333
    @martapurakalsel9333 Před 2 lety +1

    Mantap bro sukses selalu

  • @FormostPanda
    @FormostPanda Před 7 lety +18

    I love watching good choppers. Tougher on the men's side. It's the 40 & 40+ balls that makes so much harder, along with top players. There are a lot more choppers on the women's side.

    • @trollernumber1317
      @trollernumber1317 Před 7 lety +3

      Oleksii Vilchanskyi smaller ball and different material

    • @essencepinguin7194
      @essencepinguin7194 Před 7 lety +4

      Troller Number 1 yea, the Ball doesnt take that much Spin anymore, so the pimples cant preoduce the Spin on hard Balls like With the celluoid (is that the right way to write? xD) ball. but i dont unterstand why the ping pong Sport is allowed to use the old table tennis Ball and we arent ;(

    • @eldontyrellcorp
      @eldontyrellcorp Před 5 lety +1

      The 40mm balls made the defenders life difficult because it's not possible to give effect to the ball anymore, and it gave speed to the attackers. That's partly why I stopped playing.

    • @user-lq2nu6cn7y
      @user-lq2nu6cn7y Před 5 lety

      @@eldontyrellcorp thats sad

    • @sonicstep
      @sonicstep Před 4 lety +1

      @@eldontyrellcorp plus they have gone to plastic (poly) from celluloid. Plastic cannot also be guaranteed to have a nominal diameter very close to 40mm. The tolerance can shift appreciably higher (40+)

  • @Madness404
    @Madness404 Před 6 lety +2

    Looks like Koji MATSUSHITA.

  • @shenlincurve582
    @shenlincurve582 Před 7 lety +27

    why so many dislikes ? it's an attractive player , good mentality etc ... what's the problem?

    • @-danR
      @-danR Před 7 lety +23

      Frustrated players who play well against other attackers, but lose to every chopper they ever meet in a match.

    • @tomspice73
      @tomspice73 Před 7 lety +4

      tubeist- dan it is the hardest to beat a defender

    • @-danR
      @-danR Před 7 lety +5

      Not for me. I was lucky in that the first chopper I ever played couldn't play against fast loop; and I had that on both wings. I used to practice in the basement against an 1/8 inch plywood backstop at the end.
      So the idea of backspin return was quite natural, and beating the first chopper was a great confidence-booster. Later I had trouble with the new weird rubbers, but that's another story.

    • @CertifriedRatBastrad
      @CertifriedRatBastrad Před 4 lety

      choppers are sadistic cucks who like to see their opponents suffer in the worst ways possible. they suck the enjoyment out of this game and even if their opponent wins they feel dead inside cause theyd rather stub their toe a milion times than play vs a chopper

  • @garylist9
    @garylist9 Před 6 lety

    what rubber he using . lp . .?

  • @7Kazman
    @7Kazman Před 6 lety +1

    I have never seen how defenders do the exhibition! (at the end)

  • @eldontyrellcorp
    @eldontyrellcorp Před 5 lety

    Can someone tell me what he is playing with ? FH, bh ?

  • @bigdonut2631
    @bigdonut2631 Před 6 lety

    What is up with the rumbling though?

  • @skillbrothersrd6603
    @skillbrothersrd6603 Před 6 lety +3

    What is the name of the first player he played against? Love his technique ;)

  • @aeminkahraman
    @aeminkahraman Před 3 lety

    Is choppers really frustrating ?

  • @hyultracolor
    @hyultracolor Před 5 lety +2

    40+ mm ball is a disadvantage to chopper. Tried it and the feel not like 40mm ball. The LP will not gives that backspin effect to the opponent consistently. Opponent does have better chance to corner LP player. Unless the recent latest LP has better effect specialise on 40+ ball. Donic spike2 try it

  • @XupremeHKG
    @XupremeHKG Před 5 lety +1

    顽强的削球手

  • @sean16rx
    @sean16rx Před 7 lety +3

    Is he still playing?

    • @fanorydberg2424
      @fanorydberg2424 Před 5 lety +1

      He has an unusual career path! I believe he's an office worker at Sanyo or one of those companies, and only comes out to play when he feels like it, but when he does he regularly beats top ten players. I love some of his matches where he's getting thrashed all over the hall by some all-out attacker, and gradually you see an expression of horrible doubt come over the attacker's face: like, "Oh shit, whatever I do I'm not going to win this". Fantastic!

  • @symphonizrofil
    @symphonizrofil Před 4 lety

    He played with danced.... hahaha.....

  • @headlibrarian1996
    @headlibrarian1996 Před 4 lety +7

    Defense seems to work great against low and medium level players, but I never see defenders win tournaments.

    • @___Robin___
      @___Robin___ Před 3 lety +4

      Since June 2003, the International Table Tennis Federation has consistently ranked Joo Sae-hyuk as one of the 40 best table tennis players in the world after he defeated Ma Lin. Since July 2006, he has been consistently ranked in the ITTF's top 20. His peak rating was at #5, in March 2012

    • @hossein.g5685
      @hossein.g5685 Před 2 lety

      Legandary koji matsushita winning the CL and beat ma lin in the final
      Also jo se hyuk won many open tournoument and had deep runs in many massive events

    • @sumandas9487
      @sumandas9487 Před 2 lety

      @@hossein.g5685 will you please name few defensive blade?

    • @cmpf3158
      @cmpf3158 Před rokem

      @@sumandas9487 check koji matsushita blade. Donic defplay senso v3 is also good and much cheaper.

    • @percevalzinzin5983
      @percevalzinzin5983 Před rokem

      That's also because globally there are less defenders than attackers.
      Same applies for left-handed (how many ranked first?) of penhold grip.

  • @carlrennie1141
    @carlrennie1141 Před 6 lety +3

    so it's like, "well, eventually, you're gonna mess up so, lol" :D

  • @woip7761
    @woip7761 Před 7 lety +3

    Vertically challenged players' match?

  • @ll3yWanTeD
    @ll3yWanTeD Před 4 lety +1

    Nice happy japanese

  • @ionsorinporojan149
    @ionsorinporojan149 Před 4 lety +3

    Shiono Masato = Koji Matsushita ... The same stille , same movements , same way of defense ...

  • @brucewillis2399
    @brucewillis2399 Před 5 lety +1

    looks he's having a seizure while he's chopping

  • @theviniso
    @theviniso Před 6 lety +2

    Reminds me of Jackie Chan

  • @garylist9
    @garylist9 Před 6 lety +2

    Top class defense...but to be this good takes some skill and fitness wow

  • @TV-br6qc
    @TV-br6qc Před 7 lety +6

    존나 비참하게 치는데 잘치내

  • @kenkwokk8407
    @kenkwokk8407 Před 6 lety +1

    i came here for ping pong the animation

  • @zeratul112
    @zeratul112 Před 3 lety

    2:35 - 2:45
    loool

  • @user-jr4oi9mj9j
    @user-jr4oi9mj9j Před 7 lety +3

    He retired

    • @aperson4173
      @aperson4173 Před 7 lety

      so?

    • @jeanpablo3995
      @jeanpablo3995 Před 7 lety +1

      no, with the new ball its almost impossible to play in high level

    • @samg1er
      @samg1er Před 7 lety +4

      0313 X-01 He's just getting married. I don't sure that he's now retired or not.

    • @OK-ef5gx
      @OK-ef5gx Před 7 lety +4

      It is true.

    • @CertifriedRatBastrad
      @CertifriedRatBastrad Před 4 lety

      @@jeanpablo3995 ill play you a song on the worlds smallest violin 🎻

  • @highfiveguy
    @highfiveguy Před 7 lety +4

    He seems very uncomfortable with using a forehand chop.

  • @adeelzafar3299
    @adeelzafar3299 Před 4 lety +1

    But why defenders always lose?

  • @toxichazmat5785
    @toxichazmat5785 Před 7 lety +30

    It's entertains enough to watch but against a good player it won't win you games.

    • @essencepinguin7194
      @essencepinguin7194 Před 7 lety +24

      Toxic Hazmat highest World ranking: 23th of the whole World, so there are only 22 good Players lol

    • @essencepinguin7194
      @essencepinguin7194 Před 7 lety

      hp hp they are still all unter the top 50 of the world wtf, they are top Players, Players like ma long or Fan zedong are such big Talents, and i bet u would also mention in ur list of non top Players dima ovcharov who is just a slight better than fang bo

    • @toxichazmat5785
      @toxichazmat5785 Před 7 lety +3

      Counting on your opponent to make a mistakes is not a strategy that will work on better players, like I said. And anyway that ranking was definitely his peak, he's much closer to ~60th place now.

    • @-danR
      @-danR Před 7 lety +5

      It looks from this vid he was beating Ovtcharov, who is extremely good against choppers.
      2:05

    • @essencepinguin7194
      @essencepinguin7194 Před 7 lety +5

      yea, in 2003 i believe joo se hyuk made the 2cd place in wttc, he beat ma lin which was defenetly a top level player. but as we re talking about shiono, i said "highest world ranking is 23" so ofc it is/was his peak, i bet he won against some high level players sometimes, even bojan tokic almost won against ma long (at his peak lol)

  • @MrMoufyiedarz
    @MrMoufyiedarz Před 4 lety

    Less attack than Yuto

  • @AttaullahShah
    @AttaullahShah Před 6 lety +5

    Poor choppers. In the majority of the matches in this videos, he is lagging behind the opponent on scorecard.

  • @guywhodoesstuff1798
    @guywhodoesstuff1798 Před 7 lety +2

    The dude at 2:45 reminds of the "most outrageous table tennis match" When they pretend to play like girls.

  • @MrMilanoLau
    @MrMilanoLau Před 7 lety +4

    I like to watch choppers get crushed

  • @qiudog7841
    @qiudog7841 Před 7 lety +1

    像小孩儿打球。

  • @andreas4282
    @andreas4282 Před 2 lety

    hes good but he not control the ball like koji Matsushita .Masato need to train to be same good like koji Matsushita

  • @puperduardo
    @puperduardo Před 7 lety +2

    Solo muestran los puntos ganados por el roedor, seguro no gano ninguno de esos partidos; con ese juego ratonil dificil llegar muy arriba.

    • @OhkamiSheotsu25
      @OhkamiSheotsu25 Před 6 lety +2

      se te caen los cortes? jajajaja veo un poco de comentario en tu resentimiento jajajaja

    • @santiagoargayo6409
      @santiagoargayo6409 Před 6 lety

      cristofer perez jajaja pues estuvo en el top 100 del mundo, asique no se que mierda dices.

    • @manuelrchinchay957
      @manuelrchinchay957 Před 4 lety

      Si no me equivoco él ganó el abierto de Japón en el 2013, en la final derrotó a Xu Chenhao

    • @speedyspin
      @speedyspin Před 2 lety

      Tampoco te gustan los tercera bola , ni los poros cortos…. Típico player que sirve y se va para atrás para hacer “rallies” y creerse pro.

  • @AndyJ658
    @AndyJ658 Před 2 lety

    This isn't a real chopper. He only chop for backhand. Forehand is awful.

  • @johnk.849
    @johnk.849 Před 3 lety

    Choppers have to be the most boring players to watch. yawnnnn...