Final Fantasy Tactics Why Ramza Beoulve Is Strong (Ivalice's Greatest Warrior)

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • Ramza Beoulve of Final Fantasy Tactics is often considered a weaker character in the canon and lore due to gameplay.
    However, gameplay does not equal the actual or true strength of a character.
    In this video I go over and show real examples from the game that prove that Ramza is the greatest warrior in terms of skill and strength based on who he defeated in the story. (Not saying he is stronger than characters like Cloud Strife, Clive or Noctis. But within his own game, the dude is insanely skilled.)
    (His combat record is second to none.)
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Komentáře • 118

  • @mopbrothers
    @mopbrothers Před 15 dny +9

    Ramza's a very likable fictional character. He's brave, kind, strong, and ethical. In Chapter 1, Ramza is just an eager young man trying to impress his superiors. He's young and naive. He looks up to his half-brothers and wants to follow the family. At the end of Chapter 1 he sees how cruel and unjust his superiors are. He also learns it's dangerous to trust certain people, like Algus. In Chapter 2 Ramza goes and joins Gaffgarion who seems to sympathize with him that nobles are bad and it's better to work for yourself and than have someone corrupt order you around. Ramza probably tells Gaffgarion this over drinks in Dorter Trade City. Ramza is still somewhat lighthearted in Chapter 2. Even though he disbands from Gaffgarion because he beliefs his actions immoral, Agrias and Mustadio are both welcoming. Ramza just wants to help the Princess in Chapter 2. He's working for others to learn about life. He tries different jobs. However, by the end of chapter 2, he fights and kills his former mercenary captain. Ramza also kills a demon that he's never seen. At the start of Chapter 3 Ramza is really alone. He has no Order of the Northern Sky, no Gaffgarion, and almost no friends. Chapter 3 is the darkest part of Ramza's life. Zalmo tries to arrest him and he becomes a wanted fugitive. Ramza is no longer naive in Chapter 3. He knows there's a lot of deep corruption. He dares to fight authority and risks his life by going into Orbonne to get the Zodiac Stones. Outside the church he witnesses Wiegraf turn into the devil. He is very shaken by this, even more so than Cuculane. The end of chapter 3 shows Ramza's will to prevail against impossible and hopeless odds. The end of Chapter 3 makes Ramza the hero he is. Ramza kills the Devil, saves Rapha, and tells Elmdor to f-off under threat of Alma dying. After Chapter 3 it's all downhill. Ramza is no longer afraid, confused, or angry. He's witnessed and experienced so much danger and fear, that everything else is nothing. In Chapter 4 Ramza can take on anything. Guys like Zalmo are laughable. Ramza (with Orlandu's help) makes fools of all the villains. Ramza has matured into a deeply wise person.
    I know this was a long writing, but I felt the need to share my thoughts on Ramza. I'm glad you make these videos so we don't have to, Jase!
    p.s. I love how Ramza duels Wiegraf and wins. Holy Knights are almost invincible and the game answers the question of, "What would happen if Ramza had to fight a villain with holy swords by himself?" The answer is that it's brutal, but it can be done! lol Ramza CAN beat a Holy Knight. They are not invincible.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +2

      All very great points man. I think people tend to forget things lol. I mean we are all human after all.
      Just doing what I love and glad to have an audience and following with some awesome people like yourself! 💯

    • @mopbrothers
      @mopbrothers Před 14 dny

      @@J7Jase I was thinking. 🤔 Another thing that makes Ramza such a likable character is that he always prevails in the end. Unlike many other Final Fantasy protagonist like Cecil or Squall or Zidane, there’s never a fight where you’re forced to be defeated. (Ex. Cecil is forced to lose to Kain in FFIV). In FFT Ramza earns his victories no matter how overwhelming they are. Ramza didn’t lose to Elmdor and his assassins on the rooftop. Elmdor wound up leaving. At no point in Tactics is Ramza and his team forced to lose the fight. This makes the character seem more solid and gives the player a feeling of accomplishment. Fiction is fiction, but making the player feel successful is very important in a video game.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +1

      @@mopbrothers True that all facts. Literally undefeated and beat everyone lol. Another great point

  • @forrestredd2706
    @forrestredd2706 Před 15 dny +17

    The biggest (and in my opinion only) negative of this game, and missed opportunity - was keeping Ramza a squire for the entire story. I think that one fact is a lot of the reason people hold him as being "weak" especially in comparison to his potential teammates.
    Of course you can make Ramza any class you want throughout the game, but I think it is arguable that the character's default class is their canon one. Meaning that Ramza really did spend the entire game as a squire. Which really doesn't even make sense as a squire serves a knight and he becomes an exile of both the kingdom and the church, meaning he had no master to squire for.
    Storywise, Ramza should have attained some sort of second main class (just like Delita did), and considering he was deemed a heretic by the church something along the lines of Dark Knight or something similar to a Hedge Knight would have fit him.
    This is my favorite game of all time but this one thing has always bothered me, the fact that he didn't have his own unique class always made him feel lesser than every other unique NPC in the game, and I think that is a lot of the reason he is believed weak by much of the fandom.

    • @forrestredd2706
      @forrestredd2706 Před 15 dny +1

      Also: I'm not saying that this is proof he is weak. Just saying that it may be a catalyst to the community thinking him weak.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +2

      Nah I totally get what you are saying lol.
      But yeah a very strong or good reason is because of the name Squire and of course gameplay too.
      Even though actual lore and canon strength doesn't equate to gameplay power unfortunately.
      I just had to make this video with actual real scenes and proof!

    • @blumiu2426
      @blumiu2426 Před 15 dny +2

      Ramza would be...a vagrant.

    • @Nextliar
      @Nextliar Před 10 dny +1

      I allways think that fact was cool as hell, just a squire, because he never get the knight rank because he left novility and become a mercenary, killing gods!

  • @pdiddlers3268
    @pdiddlers3268 Před 14 dny +5

    Another point towards Ramza's combat prowess is the fact that the vast majority of his campaign was in unfamiliar territory. His enemies laid ambushes in their own lands and hid behind castles walls etc.
    Ramza kept momentum through what should have been an impossible mission. Ramza was like no other soldier/leader in the entirely of Ivalice.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +1

      Dude is the real legit BAMF and champ

  • @teetea7734
    @teetea7734 Před 15 dny +15

    Also factor in that Ramza achieved all these Ws in a relatively short amount of time. This man not only was inexperienced compared to his foes, but had to think on his feet constantly to overcome the many advantages they had over him. Add relaying those quick thoughts/plans to his team in the middle of a fight and you have a certified BAMF.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +5

      He honestly is. I'm glad there are several people who realize this!
      Ramza is a g nuff said

  • @BlakeElliott35
    @BlakeElliott35 Před 15 dny +6

    Out of all the final fantasy games, the character developments throughout FFT are some of the most thought provoking in the entire franchise. I really wish it was shown more mainstream love for the colossal feat that it is as a story.
    Can you imagine if “Final Fantasy Tactics: Story of The Zodiac Braves” was given the same budget and treatment that Amazon Prime gave “Fallout”?! Peoples’ minds would be thoroughly blown.
    There are so many people in the real world that can identify and relate to at least one of the many main characters’ life story/struggle in such an emotionally visceral and powerful way.

    • @nicholasmorgan7609
      @nicholasmorgan7609 Před 15 dny

      Ugh, no thanks

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +2

      I honestly would buy it and play it ofc. But sadly, I think most of the fans wouldn't unfortunately.
      I see people saying things like "I'd buy and pay for another FFT Game."
      But honestly most people I've met never put their money where their mouth is. Never played any of the Advance games.
      And that's evident with the sales in FFTA and of course War of the Lions which was a remaster of the original FFT.
      Of course most of the audience at least according to my analytics too are on the older side lol. (28 and older)
      So money needs to go to things like family, wife kids and etc. first

    • @nicholasmorgan7609
      @nicholasmorgan7609 Před 15 dny

      @@J7Jase I think he meant he wanted an FF Tactics TV adaptation or tie in, sort of like fallout got. I just think that's a terrible idea.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      @@nicholasmorgan7609 I actually don't know much about Fallout at all lol.
      Id still watch and pay but I question it's sales if it ever did happen.

    • @nicholasmorgan7609
      @nicholasmorgan7609 Před 15 dny

      @@J7Jase I just really don't trust anyone to adapt it. A lot of these shows really aren't that great. The creators of the halo show straight up never played the games, the fallout show wasn't as good as a lot of people hyped it up to be, I haven't played last of us or watched the show, so I can't comment on that and the witcher show just went right down the toilet.

  • @ronin7997
    @ronin7997 Před 15 dny +3

    "Get the fundamentals down and the level of everything you do will rise" - Michael Jordan perfectly summed up Ramza in both plot and gameplay.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      Wise words spoken!

  • @aaronstreet1054
    @aaronstreet1054 Před 15 dny +4

    Excellent points! As a true rpg fan and someone who embraces the grind when it comes to the many different games I play, Ramza with a proper grind can solo the entirety of the game. That’s not weak. 👍🏻👍🏻❤️

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +1

      Thank you! and yeah even gameplay aside dude is a beast for what he has done!

  • @CHamlin86
    @CHamlin86 Před 10 dny +1

    It's also notable how Ramza's father Barbaneth is hailed as a great warrior, one of the only to ever achieve the rank of Heavenly Knight, and several times in the story people say that Ramza takes after him much more than either Dycedarg or Zalbaag.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 9 dny +1

      Looks, personality and etc. his penchant for justice

  • @ShotoDragoon
    @ShotoDragoon Před 15 dny +6

    Finally, someone said it!

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +3

      I had to man lol. People are getting the wrong idea. Time to throw real hard facts at them with actual in game scenes and what is said.
      Ramza is incredibly strong within his own realm.

  • @vyguardelite7874
    @vyguardelite7874 Před 14 dny +3

    Enough said. A true warrior.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +1

      100% just had to show some in game evidence since people seem to forgot! But glad my community knows what is up!

  • @elr492
    @elr492 Před 15 dny +1

    I think that the skills they gave Ramza's Squire were actually a great decision. If they had made him Orlandu, the player would not have an incentive to explore the job tree, which is the best part of the game. His skillset is still strong as a secondary skillset choice throughout the game, making him still better than a generic. Those skills are also great supportive abilities, which is coherent with his character. Also, his male and female PA and MA growth make him stand out from any other character and allow him to follow any path the player chooses. It's a great way to design a main character in a way that he's special and still requires thought on the player. The only things I do think could be better would be job name changes in Chapter 2, 3 and 4 and, more importantly, replacing Ultima for something useful. Personally I think it would have been awesome if he had been able to learn Zalbag's skills by being hit by them (or maybe a toned down version of them, because some of them may be broken) or some other Beoulve family ability from his brothers.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny

      Hi this video was to prove and show why Ramza is strong in the actual lore and canon.
      Not really about his gameplay. I've shown builds and even made tier lists explaining how to use him.
      The point of this video was to show gameplay strength doesn't equal actual power on the lore and canon.

  • @deviancepurplehaze6045
    @deviancepurplehaze6045 Před 15 dny +5

    Canon Ramza is a fucking descendant of the legendary hero (he may not even know it).
    Dude just one-on-one Super Wiegraf and kick his ass, THRICE, with the last time skinning the fucking super sheep!
    Historically speaking he may even be a Dark Knight because of his heretic status and his penchant to help people in need along the way albeit with some rewards like a Dark Knight in real world. (IRL, they were called Dark Knight because dyeing their armor black make it easier to maintain because they do not have a squire to help.)

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      All great points and yeah I still don't get how he is considered "weak" by the fandom.
      Like his combat record and beating Wiegraf three times should be more than enough evidence.
      Great mention but we don't ever talk about that Chapter 4 armor 😂

    • @deviancepurplehaze6045
      @deviancepurplehaze6045 Před 15 dny

      @@J7Jase Hey! Our man knew his manliness well! Showing his white ass off is the surefire way to make us remember him lol

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri Před 14 dny

      That fight against Super Wiegraf was rough. I had a well trained Samurai Ramza who was at least 2 levels above Wiegraf and he kicked my ass like 5 times or more. I had to chance to knight and put some other skills and just go for the blow to blow strategy

  • @HighPriestFuneral
    @HighPriestFuneral Před 12 dny +2

    I am surprised you didn't mention that Ramza is the one character has both the PA growth of Males and MA growth of Females. Making him excellent at either side of the tree he approaches.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 12 dny +2

      I have a lot of videos and builds and I mention that all the time.
      However, the point of this video was not for gameplay purposes. It was his actual strength in the canon and lore.

    • @therockrocks374
      @therockrocks374 Před 12 dny +1

      This video has nothing to do with gameplay. It's Ramza's strength in actual events.

    • @bookertismyfave
      @bookertismyfave Před 10 dny +1

      This video has nothing do with Ramza's gameplay

  • @goodmanwiseman303
    @goodmanwiseman303 Před 6 dny

    Shoutout to all of the wild goblins, chocobos, bombs, skeletons, and panthers that Ramza had to dunk on before he was strong enough to beat up Dycedarg and Folmarv.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 6 dny

      Lol in terms of actual lore and canon. Ramza dumps both.

  • @CrimsonZeroTTV
    @CrimsonZeroTTV Před 15 dny +1

    I love a good underdog story, a rightful air to be shadow king next to Delita

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +1

      He started as an underdog then proceeded to beat everyone lol. Man love it

  • @dq-music
    @dq-music Před 14 dny

    I think Mr. Matsuno likes to set the main character rather to be a supporter and one of his companions to be a real hero.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +1

      I can see it with how FFT is, 12 and Tactics Ogre.
      However, this video was mostly for and to show how and why Ramza was a strong fighter based on what happens in the game lol
      I noticed a lot of people have the wrong idea about Ramza

  • @DroWarriorOfLight
    @DroWarriorOfLight Před 15 dny +1

    Pretty cool details here. My deep knowledge of Tactics is very superficial so I like this type of insight very much, coming from people who know their stuff like you instead 😅

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +1

      Thank you. I just wanted to show all the details and why Ramza is strong with real evidence.
      I think a lot of people are just misinformed and should always triple check the details.

  • @vyvian8
    @vyvian8 Před 13 dny

    A squire is a sort of knight's second from what I recall. He starts as one because he's a cadet at a knight academy. All his companions are similarly squire level cadets that in head-cannon maybe he earned their respect during his school days so they're willing to follow him at the beginning if you keep them. Other characters you pay money to recruit or are the story recruits.
    From a story-telling standpoint he ditches knighthood to become a mercenary after being disillusioned. I'd argue he's not a squire at this point. I'd call his combat class and rank a mercenary class, and then he effectively leads a rebellion to suppress both sides of a conflict, which means he has no rank at all.
    I don't recall the story declaring him a squire, still a squire, or only a squire anywhere in act 3 or 4. He may not have been promoted to a knight, but it feels weird to assume he couldn't have gone in any other direction in life.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 12 dny

      Yeah I think they just had the name Squire for gameplay purposes. But many people sadly just tend to look at gameplay only and assume instead lol of looking at the actual events and etc.

  • @BlufireTheifprince
    @BlufireTheifprince Před 14 dny +1

    Lore wise: Ramza Beouvle solos the game on his own.
    Gameplay wise: Ramza has some notable skills but overall isn't as exceptional as Orlandieu or Agrias.
    I really like Ramza but despite his talent in combat I like him more for his idealism and loyalty in his character especially to his Father Barbaneth. He won't stop doing the right thing evrn if the path ahead will be wet with the blood of the unjust... He deserves the title of Knight Gallant like his father before himm even if he will never be recognized as one. Kinda similar to another well loved FF character who aspired to heroism :)

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny

      All great points I say!
      A true hero

  • @OMEGAID181
    @OMEGAID181 Před 15 dny +2

    The true hero!

  • @williamzeo2493
    @williamzeo2493 Před 15 dny

    I guess it's easy to underestimate Ramza because he doesn't have flashy techniques like Delita, especially if you missed his extra Squire skills, but he is one of the strongest fighters on the rooster and I'm saying this gameplay-wise!
    A suggestion: you could make mock battles with Ramza vs Agrias (both with confusion) using their strongest equips and builds, and see who will comes at the top.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      Yeah that is true. I mean he is strong in a different way gameplay wise but nothing like total destruction like Orlandeau lol.
      But based on his feats in game he is lol.
      I could technically do something like that through multiplayer

  • @andikacorporation1100
    @andikacorporation1100 Před 14 dny

    I'd prefer to use my own Imagination for comparing Ramza's Power with another Arguments all player have.
    And for me,of course Ramza is Very Strong and Very OP.
    In my own story,it's Because Ramza trains himself under HASTE Spell and Thinking his Skill ( As Example like 'Yell','Cheer Up','Scream' etc ) is his own Technique to Increase Power of Both his Physic and Mental ( Brave and Faith ).
    And he trains more in Deep Dungeon,because that place isnt Affected by Time ( you can still be there to fight countless times without changing day ).
    But if we talk about how strong he is in Canon.he's just like another MC,fighting and become strong together with Friends that increase more and more

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny

      Believe what you want on that but I think the in game footage of so many enemies complimenting him is more than enough proof and evidence.

  • @user-vv9dx3wv4o
    @user-vv9dx3wv4o Před 14 dny

    yes you right I read Google and the Google was Wrong about Ramza as I know that Ramza is the most powerful warrior he can Solo every Boss and he can Be Destructive if he want to and I used Ramza many times but with Dark Knight Skills he will be most Destructive and Strongest Character in whole Final Fantasy Tactics

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +2

      Haha all I'm doing is just showing what the game says lol. But nice he does match well with Dark Knight abilities

  • @guilhermepanickirech3620

    Ok, this is going to be a long one...
    Have you guys ever realized just how fucking fast Canon Ramza is? Because Canon Ramza wouldn't be walking from Gariland to Mandalia "grinding levels" for years while Elmdore, Ovelia, Agrias, Alma or whoever the kidnapped of the week is are still captive... No, he would be DEAD SET on the goal. So let's just assume Canon Ramza finishes the story the earliest day possible on the calendar, always taking the least amount of walks in the world map and always taking the shortest possible routes. If you have ever done this "least walks possible" run (like I did) or have played this game so much you can remember by heart the entire path Ramza makes throughout the game, you can really see just how goddamn terrifying our boy is for the Knights Templar. Let's see the dates I got my artifacts on my "least walks possible" save file:
    -May 12th: Chapter 3 Orbonne Monastery. Ramza drives off Isilud, kills Wiegraf, Alma is kidnapped along with the Taurus and Scorpio auracite, Wiegraf makes the deal with Belias and Simon gives Ramza The Scriptures.
    -May 20th: Chapter 3 Riovanes Castle. Just 8 days later, Ramza breaks through the gate guarded by Marach, defeats Wiegraf, kills Belias, gets the Aries auracite, saves Rapha from Elmdore, recovers the Taurus and Scorpio auracite and also gets the Pisces auracite from Isilud... Just so you know: Ramza got the Taurus auracite on Goug on January 30th and the Scorpio auracite on Lionel on February 4th, then 90 days pass between Chapters 2 and 3. So Ramza had Taurus and Scorpio for more than 3 months, then the Knights Templar managed to steal them for only one week before Ramza got them again.
    -May 31th: Chapter 4 Fort Besselat. 11 days later, Ramza is breaking through the most impregnable fortress in the entire Ivalice, opening the sluice and saving tens of thousands of lives, rescuing Orlandeau and getting the Libra auracite to boot.
    -June 8th: Chapter 4 Limberry Castle. 8 days later, despite being lured into a trap, Ramza kills the deadly Assassins Celia and Lettie and, when they reveal their Ultima Demon forms, he kills them again. Then Ramza defeats Elmdore and kills Zalera... But not before Meliadoul sees the Lucavi. Ramza gets the Gemini auracite from Elmdore, recruits Meliadoul and also gets the Sagittarius auracite from her.
    -June 17th: Chapter 4 Eagrose Castle. Ramza crosses Ivalice in 9 days, defeats his elder brother Dycedarg (probably the most powerful man in Ivalice at the moment bar High Confessor Marcel) kills Adrammelech and gets the Capricorn auracite.
    -June 24th: Chapter 4 Orbonne Monastery. After invading Mullonde, the seat of the major religion in Ivalice, Ramza enters Orbonne Monastery. There he kills Loffrey, is teleported to the Necrohol of Mullonde, kills Cletienne, kills Barich a second time, kills Hashmal, gets the Leo auracite, kills Ultima, gets the Virgo auracite and finally saves Ivalice from being ruled forever by a cabal of evil demons.
    Let this sink in: in the span of 4 and a half months (3 of which are a time skip) Ramza killed six Lucavi, got nine of the thirteen legendary auracite, saved tens of thousands of lives at Besselat and then the entire world at Orbonne. AT 18 YEARS OLD! AND THIS ISN'T EVEN HIS ENTIRE LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!
    The villains in FFT spend half their time underestimating Ramza and the other half getting repeatedly stabbed in the face for it. To say Ramza is weak is to admit you worship demons and that you wanted the Lucavi to win x.x

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 13 dny +1

      Lol you wrote out and laid this out like a War Campaign lol.
      Based on these detailed dates. (Assuming if the dates are accurate.) Like what you are saying is true but idk how long the story of FFT lasts for. I heard Final Fantasy 7 and it was supposed to be two weeks?
      But either way. This is a campaign that makes Ramza truly great lol. Alexander the Great would be proud of this

    • @guilhermepanickirech3620
      @guilhermepanickirech3620 Před 13 dny

      @@J7Jase And about his personal power (if you want to integrate gameplay and lore) if his Uber Squire job manages to Focus, Tailwind or, God forbid, Shout long enough, even Thundergod Cid is screwed once Ramza starts doubleturning and hitting with the force of a truck lol

  • @reyofsoul
    @reyofsoul Před 15 dny

    Is there a mod that gives ramza a more unique class than squire?

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +1

      Good question so in the Unreal Mod Ramza gets Zalbaag's abilities and I believe in Emergence Ramza gets Dark Knight.

    • @stormtrooperjon9212
      @stormtrooperjon9212 Před 12 dny

      @@J7Jase @reyofsoul Would probably make the most sense that he becomes a Dark Knight the moment he slays Gaffgarion (absorbing his skills)? And then later Zalbaag's abilities when he cuts his demon-form down? Personally I make him a Dark Knight anyways in War of the Lions to make him "unique enough".

  • @curryryse
    @curryryse Před 15 dny

    Ramza being a squire and never promoted into a knight reminds me of the original Naruto series where Naruto remains a genin (lowest ranking ninja) while defeating high level threats.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      I honestly don't know much about Naruto but sure I'll take your word for it lol

  • @muleycrazy121
    @muleycrazy121 Před 5 dny

    Ramza is a BAMF up there with all the ff game leads even surpassing many of them definitely a power house on steroids

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 5 dny

      Dude he really is up there! But I guess people are too blinded by gameplay only so I had to make this video and speak some real hard facts

    • @muleycrazy121
      @muleycrazy121 Před 5 dny

      @@J7Jase I think alot of it has to do to the fact that tactics is not a flashy game like alot of the others ff titles with big cut scenes. It is mostly centered on mechanics and storytelling so it is hard for people to picture the gravitas

  • @Kriath
    @Kriath Před 15 dny

    You can't use in game mechanics as a measure of strength, lore wise. If you hack the game and give Ramza any kind of damaging abilities as a Squire, the game becomes so much easier. He needs passive/supportive abilities to balance the game out and incentivise the use of other characters. Even with that said, he's still kind of broken with Yell/Tailwind.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +1

      Yeah that is correct. I mean a lot of these posts are basing it off of gameplay strictly instead of what Ramza's enemies are saying lol and events.
      So yeah I just had to correct, speak and show some facts about the G Ramza

  • @stormtrooperjon9212
    @stormtrooperjon9212 Před 12 dny

    As far as I can tell, the game never throws any enemies at you that have setups like Ramza could have ability-wise. Elmdor comes close with 70 Brave and Shirihadori, but Ramza can easily have insane setups like 97 Bravery, 3 Faith, and Manashield + Manafont with Brawler as a Ninja, hitting everything twice for 999 damage. Still, looking at Ramza's allies, Balthier seems like he can do the most damage with Barrage, followed by Orlandu's multi-tile hitting sword skills. Ramza's definitely not the "strongest", but he is the GOAT for his decisions and heroics compared to literally everyone else in the game :D

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 12 dny +1

      The thing is he is, because he defeats all these enemies. And they even say how strong he is.
      Gameplay isn't going to be a factor here.
      Like in the actual lore and canon he is stronger than the demons, Orlandeau and so on lol

    • @stormtrooperjon9212
      @stormtrooperjon9212 Před 12 dny

      @@J7Jase wait did you say Orlandu!? 🤣🤣🤣 well ok we can all have our opinions 😂

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 12 dny +2

      @@stormtrooperjon9212 In lore and strength wise. I showed all my evidence but believe what you want man lol

    • @therockrocks374
      @therockrocks374 Před 12 dny +1

      @@stormtrooperjon9212 You can't use in game mechanics as a measure of strength, lore wise. I like Orlandeau as well and he is indeed the best character when it comes to gameplay but this video discusses how great Ramza is as a warrior.
      If you apply this logic then we all could have used Phoenix Down on Tietra!

    • @stormtrooperjon9212
      @stormtrooperjon9212 Před 11 dny

      @@therockrocks374 I think you guys are right, Ramza definitely is the strongest or one of the strongest, plot-wise. And its true, Orlandu even gets carted away by regular knights and thrown in a prison dungeon. I was just thinking also lore and story-wise, why did Ramza specifically go out of his way to save Orlandu? Yes he was like his father's best friend, but he didn't have any real connection to Ramza, I just figured maybe Ramza knew of his tremendous power and calculated that he'd have a huge advantage with him on his side? Even if that's the case, it shows Ramza's intelligence is also quite high compared to the other people in Ivalice :D

  • @user-wp2xj6wt2z
    @user-wp2xj6wt2z Před 15 dny

    Regarding the incident in Fort Zeakden when Algus/Argath specifically killed the hostage Teta/Tetra and thereby angered Delita. I am more inclined to believe that the canonical version here is the one where Delita personally kills Algus/Argath and judging by the dialogues, he also wanted to kill Ramza.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +2

      I did state it's probably Delita. However, even if Ramza didn't defeat Argath there.
      Argath's record isn't exactly impressive lol. He has literally done nothing noteworthy in the game and he killed Tietra who was being held.
      So even if you take away or add Argath to his combat record. Ramza's Resume is still second to none

    • @iamthehobo
      @iamthehobo Před 15 dny +1

      While at the time delita did say he was willing to kill ramza also, I feel it was more from anger at Nobles in general than specifically wanting to kill him. Even when he is enacting his 5000 step Grandmaster plan later, he never includes sacrificing or personally killing ramza in any of his steps

    • @bookertismyfave
      @bookertismyfave Před 10 dny

      @@iamthehobo Ramza sleeps Delita any day of the week. Argath for breakfast and Delita on the side

    • @iamthehobo
      @iamthehobo Před 10 dny

      @@bookertismyfave oh, I meant in delita's perception. Ramza is the stronger one for sure, especially by the end

  • @bronysaiyan5236
    @bronysaiyan5236 Před 13 dny

    You could also include FFXII and the Espers there considering theyre the same creatures Ramza fought. So he kills 10 or 11? Deities that literally waged war against the gods canonically single handed due to being able to remove non guest characters making ALL none guest characters technically noncanon for the story cuz they lack any dialogue in or out of combat. Ramza is only 2nd to Lightning in power

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 13 dny

      That is another fair and good argument.
      So glad people who watch my videos have good brains!

  • @blumiu2426
    @blumiu2426 Před 15 dny

    What a bizarre take to have for people. When has a protagonist of a JRPG not had plot on his side to see the game through to completion. They have to be strong for gameplay sake and for the plot. The writing itself makes it feel deserved or not and I don't know anyone that thinks Matsuda is lacking in that department. The story would say if others did the fighting for him, so if it's only based on his class status, this is the path of logic:
    Gameplay wise: His class has no bearing on your progressing, leveling up and defeating enemies. If anyone beat the game as him remaining a Squire as a challenge, then it would prove it has no bearing.
    Lore wise: As you explained in video, that's what he started as and still was defeating opponents with experience and years over him. I'd think it would be more warranted to say he was OP because he was beating people and being he has no business in that short of time. His progression would be Squire, Mercenary, Heretic and Vagrant, in my opinion. If for defeating demons that had it's own rank, he'd have that.
    Either way, I'm not sure how one can come to the conclusion he's a weak character when he has to be balanced for a central character and grow into a stronger warrior in both respects.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      Great comment and wonderful points. But yeah there are a lot of people who really do think he is weak lol.
      So many comments and posts on the Internet that claim he is weak idk man

  • @user-wp2xj6wt2z
    @user-wp2xj6wt2z Před 15 dny

    According to the lore, Ramza is a very strong warrior. Even the historian says at the beginning that Ramza was a hero, not a delita. But that's because he was a heretic who was a priest and for that Ramza was erased from history. And they don't call him a hero for his pretty eyes.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      Being called a hero doesn't equate to being a strong warrior though.
      It's like with Jeanne D'Arc aka Joan of Arc.
      She was a hero but not a fighter.
      Delita was a hero in the sense he made Ivalice better but Arazlam was arguing that he isn't the true hero but it was in fact Ramza.
      Why I showed all these cutscenes on the others saying he was strong lol

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri Před 14 dny

    Google search functions based on the information put on random internet places. If someone puts this info onna Reddit page or any other relevant page, google is gonna show the result of( Ramza is not a weakling) instead.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny

      Either way there are Internet spots and search results that say he is weak. I'm just stating the facts

  • @resistakill-talesofgracesf

    Sweet! Hello.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny +1

      Hey I remember that name!

    • @resistakill-talesofgracesf
      @resistakill-talesofgracesf Před 11 dny

      @@J7Jase It's been a gaming tag since my first introduction to League of Legends. I didn't want to COMPLETELY drop it.

  • @SunnySunblade
    @SunnySunblade Před 14 dny

    wait I don't remember Ramza having Orlandu abilities since chapter 1... Using mods to rewrite Ramza's ch1 battles doesn't "make" his history suddenly one of Strength since squirehood though 😹

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny +3

      Lol imagine writing a comment and not knowing anything. Guess you never played the War of the Lions Remaster of the game. You can get Dark Knight in that version.
      And this has nothing to do with gameplay either. All of his opponents compliment on how strong he is.

  • @cloudstrifefan7
    @cloudstrifefan7 Před 14 dny

    I can see the dislikes. 5 people smoke crack

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 14 dny

      Don't do drugs people. I care about your health !

  • @carnackketral9904
    @carnackketral9904 Před 13 dny

    A bit late to the party, but yeah, that scrub has no idea what he's talkin' bout. This is probably the same type of person who thinks people only die in story cutscenes.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 13 dny

      Never late at all lol. And yes.
      Thank God my viewers can see and understand this!
      Like I'm all for opinions but I literally have practically every single scene that shows why Ramza is strong.
      The only scene and thing I could have added was the thief and Gaffgarion at Dorter lol

  • @bobseesall
    @bobseesall Před 15 dny

    I wouldn't say Ramza is comparable to someone like Noctis or Clive with their teleporting hacks, but I wouldn't say he's weak. To say he isn't as destructive as someone like Cid is funny because outside of FFT he is always depicted as having Ultima.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      I don't think I ever compared him in strength to Noctis or Clive lol. Like obviously he isn't as strong compared to them lol.
      All I'm saying is that within his own realm or game the guy is literally the best and is the strongest and most skilled. Based on all the scenes I've shown lol.

    • @bobseesall
      @bobseesall Před 15 dny

      I 100% agree in his own universe. I know some lists compare as a whole which is the only reason I brought those 2 up. However, outside his own realm I'm sure Ramza is a lot higher than most people think.

    • @bobseesall
      @bobseesall Před 15 dny

      I 100% agree in his own universe. I know some lists compare as a whole which is the only reason I brought those 2 up. However, outside his own realm I'm sure Ramza is a lot higher than most people think.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 15 dny

      @@bobseesall Yeah even outside of his own universe too. He is no weakling.
      Like honestly in terms of combat record and skill he is up there for protagonists. Lol

  • @Dolceandgabana
    @Dolceandgabana Před 17 minutami

    If we are saying greatest in ivalice... Then marche would be the strongest. He takes on what is essentially God, and prevails.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 8 minutami

      Li Grim is no god at all lol.

  • @videogamesspaoldschool

    I think that Ramza was made to be the choice between warrior and mage, because he has big MP as well. There is one thing that is dumb in Final Fantasy Tactics regarding magic. For example, Faith statistics should be regarded to magic attack and magic defense. And not magic attack and magic WEAKNESS . It doesn't make sense. You can't have the mage who delivers strong magic attacks, but lack magic endurance. Makes zero sense.

    • @J7Jase
      @J7Jase  Před 6 dny +1

      Hi thanks for the comment. This video wasn't talking about gameplay purposes. Its supposed to be into regards what happens in actual lore and canon/events.
      But I can see what you mean gameplay wise.

    • @videogamesspaoldschool
      @videogamesspaoldschool Před 4 dny

      @@J7Jase Sorry, emotions took over my brain. That comment on the very beginning of video, it really gets to me!

    • @videogamesspaoldschool
      @videogamesspaoldschool Před 3 dny

      Ramza was emasculated many times over. I just hate it. There is even hentai where Agrias molesting Ramza. Ramza was created (I will repeat myself) to be player's choice between mage or warrior. Ultima - Guts ability, is good example for it. Also Scream - Guts ability is also boosting magic, not only physical attack.