The Darien Gap & Postmodernism | Bret Weinstein | EP 434
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- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with evolutionary biologist, author, and podcaster Dr. Bret Weinstein. They discuss the migration crisis, what values make up the “American Identity,” the potential for defining the transcendent, the origins of mutual reciprocity, and how the founding fathers codified these ideas into guidelines for the most functional nation in history.
Dr. Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist who specializes in adaptive trade-offs. His current focus is on the interaction between genetic and cultural evolution. He has studied tent-making behavior in neotropical bats and worked for 14 years as a professor at The Evergreen State College. He has testified to the U.S. Congress, and been a visiting fellow at Princeton University. He hosts the DarkHorse Podcast and is a New York Times best-selling author. Bret has been a frequent guest on The Joe Rogan Experience and has done live events with Richard Dawkins, Jordan Peterson, Eric Weinstein, Peter Boghossian, Sam Harris, Douglas Murray and has been interviewed by Bill Maher, Russell Brand, Glenn Loury, Dax Shepard, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck, Bari Weiss, Derrick Jensen, and Lex Fridman, among many others.
This episode was recorded on January 26th, 2024
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(0:00) Tour update 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(0:57) Intro
(3:51) What people aren’t paying attention to
(5:10) Michael Yon, Panama, seeing the Darien Gap up close
(7:40) Immigration and an “invasion” are both happening
(10:06) Why are Chinese immigrants crossing the southern border?
(11:35) The Darien Gap is a roadless no man's land
(12:57) Chinese immigrants are housed separately and strictly off-record
(17:48) The two migrations fuse in Panama, is one cloaking the other?
(23:23) What you need to ask of those immigrating to a new country
(31:41) The unobvious structure of the migration crisis
(36:51) We were deceived with Multiculturalism
(43:22) Lineage versus lineage, and why the American system is better
(53:08) Using large language models to map out abstracted connections
(56:39) Culture is a means to an end, why evil must be defined through narrative
(1:02:35) Sex is only a fraction of reproduction, sacrifice and true continuance
(1:07:01) Perceptual bias, religious belief, and the practice of science
(1:15:08) Defining the religious through the hierarchy of dependency
(1:23:33) The hierarchy of repairability, the sacred and the shamanistic
(1:29:56) The Omega Principle
(1:32:52) We are somewhere entirely new in history
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*Tens of thousands of military aged Chinese men illegally and covertly entering the United States is really of critical importance.*
During Covid the Canadian military leaked the fact there were Chinese military practicing on a base and Trudeau was trying to squash this leak🤔
I dont want to get all FDR and all that. But I think we need to actually take real control of this situation.
It's frightening all these Chinese are cells to take over our country
As an Australian I would be very concerned.
Why aren’t more people sounding the alarm…
Jordan.... your reputation just keeps growing among this truth hungry society. We all thank you for your work. And us Canadians are SO proud of you good sir. Much love and thank you.
We have to treasure those rare moments these days, where we can feel proud to be Canadian
@@doomsdaybooty1072 big booty facts my friend.
Within 500 years, Jordan Peterson will be for people what antiques philosophers are for us today. It's a privilege to listen to him...what a genius.
Not even ... 50-100yrs ... and they'll cry "Why Didn't We Listen?" ...
... Yeah ... Bout Dat!
@@AJ-ey4ev Not necessarily. Part of the philosophical discussion is to get a larger context to build a foundation of wisdom, which will be used to carefully chart the correct course for a solution, rather than a blunt reactionary approach, which may just exacerbate the dangers long term.
Only if us Anti-Globalists win this information war. Otherwise, he will at best be mocked, at worst, memory-holed and sent to room 101.
@@TopShelfTheologypersonally I don’t think 90% of the population can understand when he goes so deep the truth is They are more concerned about Travis Kelsey, Taylor swift, and possibly still the kardashians. . It goes over the head of politicians in government also. Good luck with that
@@AJ-ey4ev Not for the plebs, but hopefully for any elites with any influence, including themselves.
After all these years, the “love you, brother” at the end actually choked me up. As an old school IDW kid, we’ve been through quite a journey. Thanks, boys. We love you, too.
It is a shame that this isn't on every channel on television. How is so much wisdom being disregarded during a time when we are most bereft of it? I'll take these discussions 10 to 1 over any other.
CZcams is > television :)
@stevrgrs I agree, but there's an age and information divide in this country. You'd be amazed how many people have never even heard of Peterson.
Remember the days when PBS would have smart people trying to discus problems? You wouldn't see anything but a hit piece regarding Jordan or Bret on there today.
This is Brett’s new Hobby Horse? We don’t need any more personality cult leaders in our increasingly cartoonish sectarian world. These are a couple of high IQ nutcase popinjays, each watching the other masturbate over their own perceived prophecies, code cracking sermons, Sauline epistles, “what I call” deepities, and Dark Horse Ivermectin oil they’re selling. They are looking more like Batman villains every day. The quintessence of populist audience capture by the dupes and stoops and poops. Ouch. The New Church of Popolo.
Indeed, I ask many people and mostly non know.
This is absolutely by design - Dr Thomas Sowell has been sounding the alarm for decades on unchecked and unvetted immigration and the lack of integration by people entering illegally who hold values and beliefs that are not compatible with the WEST and importing their conflicts
Not only has Dr. Thomas Sowell said this about unchecked unvetted immigration he has also stated in his Black Rednecks and White Liberals that black people need to join the rest of American culture opposed to glorifying "African American Subculture" is hurting, hindering, and holding black people back.
Yes. 🇨🇦. I’ll add that the drain of all taxpayer funded programs including healthcare (sick care) are broken! The migrants are here to collect the “free” social services and they also mostly hate our culture. I’m totally fed up
by design how? is someone deliberately pushing for civil war like environment into US?
Is everybody here just going to judge and score for personal wellbeing points? Or are we going to take some collective action like all of us determining to individually share this everywhere 50 times all week? And tjen comment her on how much you did it to inspire all of us to blow the hell out of this thing? If we stop having our wasteful independet thoughtless thougrs, notning happens. If we behave like peole wjo resepct their intelligence and views. Lets do them a service. What say everyone? Use this comment thred as a communication progress board?
"The west" is a made up concept to justify exploitation of other people and their lands.
I have always admired Bret's ability to describe situations in a understandable manner that many can interpret and make sense of.
These two guys need to have a weekly 4 hr show….such great conversation!
maybe monthly... so much to digest takes time to make and process
I'd watch that
@@bboxkaingood point
In a world running low on grown ups, these two are beacons of light.
Jodans warning on woke culture was a huge one. Ignored. Proved valid. Weinstein on vitamin D, broken peer review and ivm all proven right. Their warnings alone should make everybody else agree to shit up with their own thinking and do as asked. Nobody else deserves to have brain thoughts who got so much wrong. The good tyrant rules should be in place. humans keep proving incapable of thinking smart. On mass. These few knew how to identify problems early and warn, then propose solutions. Like good captains. We are going into the storm. You won't survive without shutting up and doing as your told now.
Is everybody here just going to judge and score for personal wellbeing points? Or are we going to take some collective action like all of us determining to individually share this everywhere 50 times all week? And tjen comment her on how much you did it to inspire all of us to blow the hell out of this thing? If we stop having our wasteful independet thoughtless thougrs, notning happens. If we behave like peole wjo resepct their intelligence and views. Lets do them a service. What say everyone? Use this comment thred as a communication progress board?
@@piggerGg the right answer was "good idea, I'm going to join in. Everyone else should to". And be inspiring. Not whining.
@@piggerGg besides. These millionaires partook knolwedge that would have saved billions. Your out of pocket because of your attitude.
@@WillThomson-st6hm You’re an illiterate narcissist.
Micheal Yon (former American Special Forces Operator and individual who helped facilitate Brett’s journey in Panama) was recently interviewed by Shawn Ryan. Fantastic and insightful discussion from his perspective on the Daríen Gap.
I'm watching it right now. Pretty good so far because the guest actually talks! I also went back to Micheal Yon interview by Peterson and it was okay. So it's Bret's fault. I've already watched him on Tucker Carlson, so I'm not seeing anything new here.
I love this conversation but I wish Jordan would let Bret finish his points. Jordan repeatedly interrupted Bret to add his own thoughts or perspectives, or take the conversation in a new direction before Bret had a chance to fully flesh out his thoughts. Bret of course was very patient and just went with Jordan's flow
Yes. I figure guests must know this beforehand, and accept it as the cost of going onto this popular program.
These guys also conjure each others imaginations as they speak, so thoughts and new ideas/perspectives come thick & fast ... and it can be difficult to hold it in, lest it be forgotten 😊
This is one of Jordan Peterson’s downsides. He has at least admitted to this in the past. Perhaps it is a compulsive side to his nature. He hears an idea from a commentator which triggers his sentiment and he has to get it out. Remember that he spent a great deal of time doing lectures for students at a university and speaking and writing is his passion. He seems to have trouble toning down the lecturing in all his interviews. We all have our downsides.
@@saabukas He's Human Afterall 😲🤯😂👍
Agreed. It's not just the interrupting but the elaborating, during which he brings up so many other points and topics that it becomes impossible to respond to it all.
The current immigration disaster is not an accident, and it's not incompetence, it's intentional.
When it truly sparks and ignites, consider it the breaking of the second seal. C19 was the 1st seal. Roughly every 4 years like the Olympic calendar.
But fear not.
I agree completely and Australia is proof
@@grannyannie2948And Canada where I’m now a visible minority because I’m white
@@big_red_machine3547 Demographers say we will both fall first, so to speak. My last census shows that if you have a grandparent born in the country, even one you are a minority. And that means your vote doesn't matter at all. 😞
@@big_red_machine3547 I did reply. Will try again tomorrow. We share a trajectory.
“At a cost to the people already living here” is an important point.
I have the utmost admiration for Brett and have followed the Darkhorse Podcast since the beginning of the Covid fiasco. He is a great communicator and gets to the depths of the important issues of today's world.
agreed
You are so rite. How awesome would it be to have a mind like these 2 men
I just finished watching on the Daily Wire side and that was categorically the best conversation between Dr. Peterson and Bret and I should know, I’ve seen them ALL. The brotherly love and companionship between them was so moving and so heartwarming. If we just keep those fires of brotherly love burning, we’re going to be okay.
Blessed Holy Week.
Possibly, but Ecclesiastes tells us there's a time for everything... and one of those things is war. We'd better be ready for that too.
@@ofiasdfnosdf it is precisely the brotherly love and companionship I mention here that will sustain us in war, as it has through all wars throughout human history. But may brother not rise up against brother. May it be ideology we war against, and the rulers of the darkness of this world, and not our brothers.
I share Brett’s sincere concern about a rematch with the dissidents who set up covid. Although many of us were awakened to what was going on, because there were no consequences or any accountability whatsoever for the perpetrators they feel quite emboldened. 😩
Exactly, they are acting with total impunity. Where’s Nuremberg this time? We have nothing to stop it!
*Bret's
It was a dry run. That was the point of it, find the cracks so next time it'll be seamless.
OMG … that is so true
@@Madonnalitta1 Exactly. They wanted to see what they could get away with and find all the soft spots.
This is scary information from Bret. If buses are just allowed to go thru all those countries without any security checks to get to the US boarder, those countries must be getting some kickbacks from someone to turn a blind eye 😕
I would look at the UNs IOM. I've heard longer conversations on the matter
@@grannyannie2948checkout the Shawn Ryan show. He just had Michael Yon on in the last 2 weeks.
NGOs are terrorist organizations
Border*
Spot on!
A continuation, a part two, is definitely needed for this topic. What a powerful duo, Doctors!
Literally my two favourite intellectual podcasters having a discussion; I think they could have gone deeper into certain topics more, but it does not get much better than this.
If I could host a dinner of the world's brightest minds of today, these two would be on my list. I would be ecstatic if I found these two, Heather Heying, Eric Weinstein, Douglas Murray, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Thomas Sowell, Coleman Hughes, etc. in the same room contributing to the same conversation. They could create their own thinktank and have actionable solutions for half the world's problems within days.
I would love to meet them all too ❤
Need to worry about surviving what's coming soon
Don't forget Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Matt Gaetz. They have to be part of the solution.
they have high IQs lol stop idolizing these people...
As a man of at best normal intelligence I wonder how awesome it would be to have a mind like these 2 men
Re Fall of Rome textbook strategy.
Barbarian invasions, particularly by the Visigoths, Vandals, and Huns, weakened the empire's borders and strained its military resources. Simultaneously, internal corruption, reliance on mercenaries, and a lack of discipline among the soldiers diminished the once-legendary Roman military prowess.
i just dont see chinese pillaging new york and pissind and shitting all over the place...
i just dont see chinese people pooping and peeing all over the place in new york :D
Actually when Rome fell to the barbarians, the barbarians were already living in the city as economic migrants.
@@barbadoskado2769As an Australian we get large numbers from that country, in large numbers you'd be surprised, I'm sure you'll soon find out.
@@grannyannie2948 Correct, there are parts of chinese filled suburbs in sydney that specifically smell like chinese food and urine.
Chinese food from the shoddy restaurants everywhere and urine from the local populace.
The assumption when you bring masses of a different demographic to a civilised country that they will drop their bad culture and pick up our good culture is ridiculous. Reality shows they are happy to keep theirs.
Would love to hear the complete thoughts that Brent shares without so many interruptions that gets us off track.
I lived in the Darien for over 2 years in 2010-2012, the American Army southern command were finishing the highway to Yaviza at that time and training Senafront how to combat the "FARCC". It was the most bizarre thing I had witnessed, in a place, at that time, was a rural forgotten part of Panama. Strangely enough it seems odd just as the american finished the road, shortly after this migration thing happened....Might I add there was a lot of secret special forces operations going on at that time as well, and the only way I had found out was because the green berets there couldn't keep their mouths shut.
Oh and that San Vicente camp he is talking about was originally supposed to be a hospital for the area, but my Panamanian friends tell me that they converted it to receive the migrants. The local panamanians complain about paying the taxes that built that hospital that is NOT being used for their needs.
Great thinkers of our time. Having said that, there's always 10-15 minute portions of these conversations where I have no f'n idea what they're talking about.
Me too, but it forces us to think which is like anything else with practice I improve. I think it makes us sharp minded which benefits us tremendously. Especially in the times we are in now it fine tunes our bullshit gauge. I scrolled back several times to try and stay on course. Wishing you a great day thanks for your time
Sometimes I start to daydream for a few minutes and then I’m completely lost
My two favorite gentlemen once again in conversation. Thank you for sharing your discussions and expertise, as always, and allowing us to follow along as you work through the craziness of the world in recent years. Both of you.
As far as I’m concerned, JP and the Weinstein brothers are doing far more for the world than they could ever accomplish as leaders of countries. Their stunning following goes to show how many intelligent people are worried about the state of affairs, globally but mostly on the home front.
They and those others like Murray and the like are ploughing a path for the rest of us to follow- but we MUSt follow, and take action. Governments aren’t going to do it so we have to!
Is everybody here just going to judge and score for personal wellbeing points? Or are we going to take some collective action like all of us determining to individually share this everywhere 50 times all week? And tjen comment her on how much you did it to inspire all of us to blow the hell out of this thing? If we stop having our wasteful independet thoughtless thougrs, notning happens. If we behave like peole wjo resepct their intelligence and views. Lets do them a service. What say everyone? Use this comment thred as a communication progress board?
Every American needs to hear this. We are in grave danger of losing our nation and it's freedoms!
Dr. Peterson, you saved my life. I love you, so please know this comes from a good place: you interrupt your guests so often, I've started to brace for your next interjection. I'm reflexively trying not to get attached to what they're saying because they rarely get to finish their thought.
Fantastic production for a remote interview. Great job whoever is setting this up.
Dr Peterson my wife and I attended your show in Phoenix last night and it was absolute joy. Thank you so much for all you and your family do.
This is my idea of true reciprocity. The appreciation of such important information and ideas, which can then manifest upon other people and their families.
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Me too! 🤙
@@WillThomson-st6hmthe problem is that people think wearing a t shirt, flying a flag, or sharing a post to “spread awareness” is them doing somthing.
When in reality it’s a lazy man’s way of pushing the problem into r he world and hoping someone else takes care of it.
Raising awareness in a time when people are already aware of numerous other issues does nothing. I wish it weren’t true but it is
@@AJ-ey4ev i agree. That's why I posted a "shall we do a collective action" suggesrion to about 20 threads here. Hundreds of not thousands have seen. So far I've had only 4 replies and note one had any hint of brain thoughts indicating positive action. Only excuses. It's been a useful experiment.
2 of the top smart and courageous men of this generation
Gen X baby!
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@@chilblain1
You know it, sweetie. ❤
Jordan...I hope this message gets to you. Thank you for all of the work that you do. Books, talks, interviews, and standing up for whats right means a lot.
I have 1 favor to ask. Please ask your guest 1 or 2 questions at a time. Often times you pile on the questions and it becomes overwhelming. The guest aren't sure how to answer and for the listener, it is hard to follow.
I mean that with respect and graditude.
Brett: "I would actually challenge you on this."
Jordan: "Great!"
🤓🤓🤓
I geeked out too
Went to his event in Jacksonville FL and it was truly inspirational. I was over joyed to the point of tears to be listening to him. It was a blessing and I pray to be like him in my passions and life. Such a well thought out and purposeful man.
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The absolute brilliance of this discourse and the phenomenal wisdom and empathy of these two men bring me to tears! We need so much more of this out there...true education! 💖🔥
One of them isn't anywhere near as smart as he's fooled you into believing he is.
I agree of course ... but what WE NEED ... is action from those in power based on such wisdom.
More very important information from these brilliant men. I wish Jordan could ask his questions and then let the interviewee have a chance to answer thoroughly.
Answering Bret in that Europe did not ask the question why they came. In Sweden, they asked. "What is your intention?" If they answered "I intend to settle in Sweden" then we have them everything. I literally mean that they only had to state "I intend to settle in Sweden" and they got everything that my old mother had to pay for even though she was a part of building Sweden.
There was a good travel CZcamsr named Bald and Bankrupt that I have been watching for years who vlogged going through the Darien Gap from the border of Venezuela to the US border. A very eye opening set of videos....
Yess, viewing that gave me quite a clear picture of this migration/invasion.
Who cares. You do a great disrespectful disservice by commenting here on an unrelated topic. How rude. While not mentioning anything discussed. This is why nothing good ever happens. These guys are trying to highlight a topic (other places to get he same info) and get the world to understand. All you do is prevent that going out because all you cared about was adding what you want people to think about. That is what most people do. Your ego means all you considered was Wanting people to know what you think. No consideration for these mens efforts or the plight and suffering ongoing. You all never learn. Your not the centre of the universe.
@WillThomson-st6hm What's wrong with you? I posted on the topic and you post some rant that had nothing to do with my post.
Thank you; now that we've been made aware of the place, any additional material that further elaborates on its distinctions enriches the points being made. I appreciate the video recommendation 😍🙏
@@jamesaspinall9248 bots man
Try coming to the african market, you would do a world of good here. Africa needs YOU Mr. Peterson
What it needs are all the people with the wherewithal and drive that fled instead of making their own countries better. Unfortunately, they’re over here in the states, and over in Europe making everything worse.
Which African markets? What nation, what area? I need contacts for journalism in Africa, if you give info I can do some work.
@@victorygarden556 - Going by his username I'd guess South Africa.
Give credit to JBP's idea but spread them yourself. We are more capable than we realize. Then you will be a great legend for your own people.
@@smelltheglove2038if your family was starving and saved up enough and worked extra hours to send you to college so you could get to an nice country and work and send money back home, you’re telling me you would say fuck it and stay to try to make your country better? How? What pathway is there for you to make an entire COUNTRY better? There isn’t one, but there are plenty of feasible and salient pathways for this type of person to help their families.
As much as I love you Jordan, I wish you wouldn't interrupt Brett so much.
JP is not only one of the most incredible intellectuals of our time, but one of the most prolific firewood collectors this side of Canada.
I’ve always thought, if a majority of our population could 1) truly understand these two when they speak, especially Brett’s brother, and 2) could allow these values and critical thinking skills to bring us together.
These types like Brett and Eric do such a good job at explaining complex issues that’s weighing on all of our minds, but they express it so easily and so eloquently. I hope our society takes a really cool hopeful turn as the enemy is at the gates today. I grew up in 91.. the world has just drastically changed for the worse .. now imagine being my father born in 67.. it’s gone completely mad.
Is everybody here just going to judge and score for personal wellbeing points? Or are we going to take some collective action like all of us determining to individually share this everywhere 50 times all week? And tjen comment her on how much you did it to inspire all of us to blow the hell out of this thing? If we stop having our wasteful independet thoughtless thougrs, notning happens. If we behave like peole wjo resepct their intelligence and views. Lets do them a service. What say everyone? Use this comment thred as a communication progress board?
Honestly two of my most favorite people to watch!!
Same! Now How do I find people like this in real life? Heh
Sharp suits, and sharp minds. Welcome back to my mind Dr Peterson and Bret. Two of the most _required_ thinkers of our age.
This is one of the best talks I've seen you do, Jordan and Brett. And that's saying something, because I've watched almost every talk you've ever done publicly over the last 7 or so years.
seeing these two on screen together, the ZZ Top lyric comes to mind: Every girl crazy bout a sharp-dressed man - or two! THESE two. Thank you sirs!
Love you, Dr. Peterson for many reasons, least not for the constant sharing of truth and wisdom. I, too, saw you LIVE in Feb. Was wonderful!! ❤GODSPEED ❤
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Probably the most profound and enduring phrase in the entire discussion was the comment, "Love you, brother."
-That transcends Eternity.
Dr. Peterson, i love you so much and i cannot put into terms how much you've improved my life throughout the years! My only wish and i really beg you for that is that you grant your guest(s) at least an equal amount of time to respond and answer your multifaceted questions! Guest podcasts usually shift the focus towards none other than the guest themselves, Sir!
Prodigy. Jordan is one of the only modern-day masters I have interest in.
Who are other interesting people?
@@elad1000fulGregg Braden as wel.
Same!
I had the honor of going to your show in Jacksonville on the 22nd. Thank you for everything you do Dr.Peterson! The world and i appreciates it!
How was it? Im going in May
It was a great experience!
He and his son were there.
Julian started the show by playing music and than Dr.Peterson came out.
Great experience!
I was at the opener in Providence RI. The lecture was electrifying and incomparable.
@@MrLyriccritic, When you want to respond to a person you click on those three little dots top right hand corner of the comment then the person will get your reply and see it.
@Rocket9944 your duty duly noted
“Thanks Jordan, Love ya brother.” So good gotta love two well adjusted dudes shooting the shit.
Where is our Media? These are amazing stories that back in the day many journalist would have jumped on. It’s awful that the media isn’t “ for the people” anymore. We have to rely on people like these men to give us the stories and insight.
Two of the highest profile stalwarts trying to hold back and rebuff the Madness over the last few years!...Two Good Men!!
Both men of good conscience who, at much personal cost to themselves, continue to rail against those who hide in the shadows and wish us all nothing but harm!
I can't help but wondering if there are ties from these International migration organizations back to the world economic forum
This interview should be broadcast everywhere in the free world for awareness
Thank you so much for this interview 🙏🙏🙏❤️
Bret Weintstein and Heather Heying, thank you for speaking up during the pandemic.
Oh my goodness, Dr. Peterson, it does seem like the old days to see you talking to Bret again! I think it’s been since their last book was released! You know, I really care about Bret and Heather. I’m so gratified that they were able to rebuild after the devastation of Evergreen. Don’t agree with them on everything but that isn’t required to have affection for them and to hold their well being in my heart.
Speaking of people you haven’t talked to in ages, dearest Dr. Peterson, today I stumbled across an old interview of yours I had never seem before, and I was quite sure I had seen them ALL, the older and more obscure and difficult to find, the better. (I found your interviews with Ethan Klein on another channel and now I know you can smoke pot and tell a ghost story like a BOSS but be that as it may). Anyway the interview was with Jesse Lee Peterson from seven years ago, just a couple weeks before you became very very ill in the winter of ‘16. And I was so moved by it. Jesse asked you a certain question and did so with such a pure spirit, not playing games, not manipulating you for his own amusement or aggrandizement, not sitting there smirking thinking “I got him,” and you discerned that, and sensed that, and responded in an equally pure and open spirit, and it was such a beautiful and soul to soul exchange that I wondered if another conversation might be good. I know you both have changed over the years but the most important things haven’t changed.
A very blessed Holy Week, dearest Dr. Peterson, love you dearly. (Don’t know why).
Your faithful
Ruth Anne
One of my favorite Duos!! Can’t wait to watch this
Jordan! Your message extends as far as Moçambique.
We love you and stand with you.
We share your values.
I'm from Colombia and I heard about the mass migration through the Darien Gap but news failed to inform there were chinese people among them.
Perhaps it didn’t fail to inform, but was actually intentional in its omission.
@@cathyreynerson2182 Most likely and they told us there were just Venezuelan that were crossing.
On perception and objective reality, Richard Feynman made these very points. First, you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.
And it's always a pleasure when Bret is here. He has such an impressive mind and a rare gift for expressing his thoughts coherently. Always a fascinating guest.
“God help us”, indeed. Wonderful discussion!!
Great conversation I wish Jordan wouldn’t interject as much, though I’m not saying it was a bad thing, there was a couple of times I was really interested in hearing Brett’s point being finished. Oh well that’s how conversations go. Need a podcast of these two together.
Hard to complain when two of the most essential voices sit down and talk for hours and we get it all ❤
I’m excited to mow my lawn to this tomorrow. Seeing you live in April!
As a Panamanian, I wish I knew Bret was here and if he had a lecture or something. Work leaves me no space for social media other than CZcams and I spend it in these kinds of content.
1:13:55 I think this exact topic is fundamentally why Peterson and Weinstein are so popular. The general public is fully convinced of the power of science and now they want to know why they should still be religious in a way that is compatible with science. We crave serious conversations attempting to fit evolved religious mythologies into modern evolutionary, biology and psychology
And it's the exact place where Peterson loses credibility. His god babble is incoherent.
When you can - Jordan, it would be great for you to return to Australia. I live near Melbourne and watched your discussion that you had in Melbourne city, Victoria, Australia. A wonderful talk and I know you were also struggling with life and health simultaneously. In the meantime-good luck to you and Tammy visiting those 51 USA states. 🌻🍀🦋✌️🙂💜. I now have also managed to have my two youngest children back in my life, and finally a positive discourse with their father. Just over a week ago I thought I might never see them again. But I didn’t give up hope or doing what I could to find them and communicate. Just trying to say it felt like a miracle because it was also Easter Sunday when this resolution came about.
I couldn’t get enough of this podcast! Please have a follow up discussion soon. I would very much look forward to it!
I cannot express enough just how excited I am to see a discussion with these two brilliant men.
My heart is full today. 🤗♥️
I’ve spent a great deal of my intellectual life compartmentalizing Judeo-Christian mythology from the sciences discovered in the last 2 centuries; however, after this conversation, I’ll begin studying and contemplating the notion that there’s no need to compartmentalize. Instead, you two have inspired me to consider that these two concepts are not opposed but may well be the same thing. Thank you. NCR Davis, author
Thanks Jordan, love you brother!😊 Couldn’t have said it any better than to use Bret’s closing words. Love Bret too. Both men of immense integrity and decency.
14:58, “only realized after I left” happens to me often when presented with something that doesn’t make sense. Sometimes it takes decades.
I am so grateful for you both. Thank you for sharing your brilliance!
Hello and greetings from Sweden.
Its amazing to listen to Dr Peterson and his counterpart, but i must say the most interesting conversations to listen to with him (and i have listen to A LOT) is when he is not so mutch on the same side of the spectrum as his counterpart, to hear his honest passion in his sad/mad emotions.
Thanks for having Bret back on the podcast Dr Peterson.
Please check out the official clips channel from Bret's DarkHorse Podcast 😀
Damn nice let's go. Two of my favourite thinkers, this gon be good.
Long overdue!
That’s really interesting how Bret Weinstein ended this deep conversation. He said, ‘Love you brother’.
The second part is pure gold, thank you both! ❤❤
Jordan, what an interview!! 💯
It's so beautiful to see two great thinkers to reach a very similar position, looking from different points of view, as they do here. I remember other of their conversations in which they're not so aligned. I'm very happy for that!
I got 58 min in and honestly, I typically enjoy Jordan’s discussions, but this one was brutal. I’ve watched Brett on Tucker and other interviews, but Jordan monopolized the conversation and didn’t allow Brett to speak. I feel Brett even getting annoyed at times. Jordan, allow your guests to answer your questions without interruption. Thank you
Nah it was way worse with Dawkins! 😂😂 but good on him bun that guy 😂
nailed it! thank you for finally asking value question. thanks for all these thoughtful conversation...so important
Something or someone has move into your consciousness Bret,maybe you don’t even notice it but it’s quite evident and wonderful to see.Your farewell words to Jordan were very christen. Thank you both you make a great team.❤
Jordan is always at his best when he has someone debating him of similar intellect. But at the same time I love how Jordan doesn’t take his intellect for granted and can connect with every day people. He doesn’t look down on people with contempt. He understands!!
Bret is amazing, in a way he does not interupt even though Jordan is, many times....I like the way he thinks too.
Good lord this conversation went off the rails. I'm a huge fan of both Jordan and Brett. Unfortunately, one of the flaws of Dr. Peterson is he often gets bogged down in the weeds and the details and goes off on Tangents. He also interrupts quite a bit. Brett shows considerable patience. At times Peterson is direct, sharp and to the point...other times not so much.
Yes, I heard him described recently as talking for twenty minutes before coming to the point two minutes later.
Yes, the look on Bret's face, while Jordan was using hundreds of words to describe what he had neatly condensed into ten, said a lot.
Good luck with the tour. I'm sure it will be a huge success.
I have a new feeling inside me now that’s telling me to watch this a few more times and tell my friends about it.
Well not sure how Jordan took us down the road we ended up on??? We veered off when the guest was trying to explain how we’ve been sold a bill of goods on multiculturalism. I would have enjoyed staying on the topic of immigration. Please have these conversations at dinner and not one where viewers are tuned in for the advertised topic. Thank you for the first part of the interview.
I agree. Stream of consciousness conversations are fun, but somehow, while they taste great, are less filling.
Excellent content. These discussions by 2 highly intelligent and caring individuals are paramount. Thank you both.
This was one of my favorite podcasts I've heard in a long time. I'd like to hear more about Bret's concept of the Sacred vs. Shamanic if anyone can tell me where to tap into that.
The second half of this conversation is a testament to the beauty of the mind. Thank you gentlemen for sharing this with all of us.
Good luck Jordan. Thank you. I’m a female, can’t believe I’m older than I feel and look. I try my best - I have a chronic autoimmune disease. It is terminal if I don’t take the medication (I know life itself is terminal). I live in Australia but my parents emigrated to this country. The injustice system is something I want to help. I have two much younger brothers, a five year old son whose father has practically kidnapped along with my 6 year old daughter. My 17 year old and I think and have deep discussions. I just wanted to say you’ve helped a lot. I know you’re also an individual who has faced adversity and still does but won’t give up. I can’t say more than thank you and I wish you and your loved ones and this community well. Well wishes and gratitude. ❤🦋🌻🇦🇺🏴🇭🇺
Thank you 🙏🏼
Jordan talks too much with many guests, but you have to give credit to any guest that really gets him going with inciteful dialogos. Good job Bret!
The last pod that Bret did with Jordan he was constantly interrupting right as Bret or Heather were getting to the crux of their point. You could tell that it annoyed Bret so I can imagine that he went in with a plan in mind.
It would really be good if Jordan let his guests speak more or longer without interruption.
It’s not an interview it’s a dialogue. I definitely understand your points but I think you have to realize the format is never to ask short questions and let the guest speak in length with Peterson.
Yes!! I really wish he'd let his guest speak more. Love ya Dr Peterson!
I believe that Jordan had specific points that he was trying to keep with and he may have issues with some of Bret's stances on religion. Bret is Jewish and Jordan professes Christianity.
Two of my favorite people having a brilliant conversation. Love it. Thank you gentlemen.
I am so happy and hopeful to hear conscious thought and discussion. You are gifting me such a great opportunity to expand my mind, my heart, and my soul.
This happens with every discussion that Jordan Peterson initiates or is involved in.
So many blessings and much gratitude,
MaryAine Calif. Native 💃🏻🦋🤺🧙🇺🇲
Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein? Wow. What more can I ask for…
Bret is spot on!