RC Buggy Racing: Budget Tamiya VS High End Yokomo. タミヤVSハイエンド ラジコン サーキット
Vložit
- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- These are my thoughts on racing the DT-02, TT-02B, YZ-2 and YZ4 off-road buggies from Tamiya and Yokomo. There isn't much point in comparing specs and performance, as the high end Yokomo buggies are (as their name suggests) obviously higher. 😅
But does that mean they are more fun? 🤔 And should you avoid Tamiya and go right out and buy a high end buggy to run with at your local circuit?
In this video I wanted to share my experience running all four. Hopefully you'll find this video useful!
And if you're looking for that link, apologies: I deleted my original draft of this video as it was a real 😴 But if you're having trouble sleeping, might I suggest this:
• 30 Minute Deep Sleep M...
thanks for all the nice n thoughtful vids, Kool production as well! Loving my YZ2 n Genova Gforce💯
Thank you!
Good to hear both sides of it from someone that is both experienced in both and also not a pro racer or anything. I think you explained it all very well and I loved watching the cars run around the track! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and tips on the subject!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. 😊
Before publishing the video I wasn’t sure if I was making sense. 😅 At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter what you run, as long as you’re having fun. 👍
@@KaiCityRC Exactly!
Great video and explanation from your experiences, And I loved your comment about getting as much fun from running your Tamiya’s ie: grasshoppers at the track and they put as much of a smile on your face as the high end stuff , I agree wholeheartedly on that ;)
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this subject. I hope to try out high end buggies some day. Looking forward to that Dirt Master video. Didn’t know it’s already released in Japan.👍😊
Thanks! Dirt Master is due to come out this Friday I believe. I may do an unboxing as it's a kit that seems to have a lot of interest. 👍
I think we get Kyosho releases early, but Tamiya on the other hand...still haven't released BHM Hotshot here. 🙄
Very to nice to hear more about this topic from you! I'm a few steps behind you, I have now been at the track twice, and broke my TRF201 both times. I Did follow the advice and check what everyone else is driving and now I have a Traxxas Slash of all things, I just painted an aftermarket body today for it, need to have it ready for track day next weekend, see how that goes...
Best of luck! 👍 I know you're gonna have a great time!
Surprisingly after racing for most of Saturday at Carnosa RC Park, it wasn't my DT-02 that broke, but my SF2. 😅
I love tamiya they are so much fun to build but unfortunately I totally understand that they aren’t built for race circuits.. I am more of a collector I guess then anything. Thank you for your video
I know you don't want any criticism -While I seem to get it you know your cars and know a great deal, write a script and make a point. You have some great points but you seem to ramble and it makes for a boring video and hard to watch.
Hats off living in Japan. I loved living there and want to go back and live there again.
Guilty as charged! 😅 I'm well aware that I tend to ramble on and on in my videos - something I often openly state at the beginning. What can I say? I love RC, love talking about RC, but rarely get to talk RC in my native language. 😁
I certainly cannot recommend anyone operate heavy machinery while watching anything on my channel - at least not the ones where I'm talking. 😉
I really like your thinking, David. I believe that riding a circuit with a Tamiya vehicle, as fun as it is, will not be a pleasure if there is not a category with equivalent vehicles. I also find it unfortunate that today there are only two extremes: top notch buggies like your Yokomo or Tamiya-style leisure buggies. Hobbytech ( french brand you maybe never heard about) offers a 4x4 buggy that is positioned between these two categories, there is all the necessary adjustment, but not too much to loose in setup a beginner- average driver. It would be nice if other brands could offer similar product. Associated used to club racer version of their top of the line models.
Thank you for commenting. 😊 I agree completely. I love Tamiya and would not hesitate to recommend them to anyone. But for use at a track, where no one else is running Tamiya and there are no Tamiya "themed" races, it would probably be better to go with something else.
I think with the Genova and now Dirt Master, we are starting to see some more affordable mid range kits. Hopefully we'll see more in the future.
In Japan, Tamiya remain a hugely popular RC manufacturer and it's common to see people of all ages running Tamiya at their local circuits. Indeed, there are at least two tracks I know of where pretty much everyone runs Tamiya, and not high end, but DT-02/03 chassis, Grasshopper etc. And the motor of choice is the 380. 👍 😁
The Tamiya TT02 BR is not so far off the hobbytech BXR on track if you put the same esc, motor. and tires The advantage of this 2 cars for me if you go to the track only for fun is that that you don't have to use exclusively short battery.
Very nice comparison of some awesome cars! I remember the Yokomos but they were not too common here in the USA.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. 😊 Yokomo were not popular in my home country either. But here in Japan they dominate high end along with Team Associated.
What are the low friction suspension pins that you use for the TT-02B?
I've only fitted pins to the outer positions to replace the screw pins. It's been a while now, but if memory serves I used parts from the DT-02 Low Friction Suspension Pin Set Hop Up. (or possibly the TL-01 Low Friction Suspension Pin Set)
I bought several sets of various lengths and mixed and matched as needed.
Always really enjoy your narration videos David, keep them coming.
If you're still in possession of the G-Force Genova; have you ran that around an indoor track at all? Could be interesting. 🤔
Thank you for the kind words. 😊
I still have the Genova! It would need carpet tires and the shock oil changing to run effectively on the carpet track, so I haven't had chance to run it yet. However a I see a couple of other people run the Genova regularly and it does really well. 👍
I plan to compare mine to the Dirt Master as they are both similarly priced and much the same design concept.
Thank you for video. If yokomo cal 3.1 10.5t what pinion gear thank you... happy new year! Or change motor 17.5??? I use home and park…
Hi there! Thanks for the question. It's a little difficult to answer, as it depends on so many factors including how big the spaces are you run in, what ESC you're using and ultimately how fast you want to go! 😁 In my case, my 13.5T YZ2 runs 25T pinion and kit spur on a small, technical indoor carpet track. For 10.5T outdoors, try something around 25T and go from there. If you feel it's too slow, try a larger pinion, but keep an eye on ESC and motor temps.
With gearing I find it's all about experimentation. Try different ratios to see which one works for you and the electronics you're using. 👍
Hope that helps! 🙂
日本語字幕、良いですね!
自分もカルノーサで、グラスホッパー、オプティマミッドからアソシB6.4まで走らせています。
それぞれに楽しさがあるので、好きな方を予算に合わせて購入すると良いですね。
サーキットは楽しいですよ!
コメントありがとうございます!本当にそれぞれのラジコンの良さと楽しさがありますよね。オプティマミッドカッコよかったですよ!
Loved that 2CV body! so original and cool!
I wish you'd talk a bit more about the Optima Mid at the track. I've been curious to use mine in an indoor track to preserve it from the harsher use outside, but not sure if it's got any fun potential in this scenario vs risk of breakages, actual driving feel and, why not, a bit of performance to barely keep up. I understand it's very old and heavy, but can the old dog teach any tricks?
The 2CV is great isn't it! 😁
The owner of the Mid only ran it for a short while where I was there and as it was a shakedown run, he was taking it easy.
The Mid had all of the optional carbon pieces fitted plus a 13.5T Le Mans brushless set up. I thought it handled reasonably well, but for the track at Carnosa RC Park, it really needed to be lowered more than the stock front shocks would allow. Out of the box, I don't feel any of the Legendary Series buggies will work well on a modern high grip carpet track. Mostly it's due to suspension settings & tuning - ride height, camber, damper oil, springs etc. They're designed for dirt tracks, built tough, and a little on the heavy side.
I think a lot depends on the design of the track, severity of jumps etc. I haven't yet worked up the courage to run any of mine at Carnosa mainly because I want to avoid breakages. (I tend to baby them too much! 😅 )
Also spares can sometimes be a little harder to find. (Conversely Carnosa stock pretty much everything for the Yokomo's and the DT-02/03 and TT-02B.
@@KaiCityRC that's a really comprehensive reply! Thank you, David! Makes total sense. Either run then on what they were designed for back then, gravel, unpacked outdoor courses, or face unsuitable range of operation from the suspension and chassis. Then again, being a "classic" I'd be wary of scraping underneath the chassis, and any other breakages. Probably a bumpy grass like the one on your videos is the smoothest and least aggressive scenario in which they can be enjoyed. Cheers!
@@KaiCityRC PS. That 2CV made me want the M05RA kit even more than I already did! (More of a scale enthusiast, than into outright performance buggies)
Thank you for this video - it definitely gives me some food for thought. Afer I got an Arrma Mojave 6s for our daughter (that car is one expensive psychotic suicidal car, lol) I got also the little Losi Mini JTX2 buggy and discovered how much fun it can be. But outdoors it gets up to its limits quickly, so now I am looking at 1/10 (I want something distinctly smaller than the Mojave) buggies that I would run for fur outdoors on a small paved pump track and some unpaved surfaces) and I am wondering whether I should rather get some re-release like Turbo Scorpion, Dirst Master or the upcoming BBX, or would I be better off going for a more modern (not necessarily directly a competition grade as I don't plan to run on a track - no time and no track close by) buggy.
Thanks for commenting!
That's a tough one. I'm a huge fan of old-school retro designs, so I'd definitely go with the Turbo Scorpion or Dirt Master /BBX (modern with a retro vibe), Out of the Dirt Master and BBX, the former looks to be superior performance wise, but the BBX has so much character. Any of the buggies you mentioned would be plenty fast with the right motor, handle well on the surfaces you mentioned and look cool too. 👍 😎
High end would allow faster speeds and be more competent, but it comes at a price. I personally don't think I would have bought a high end buggy just to run alone at the park. ☺️
Also check to see how easily spares are to find in your area.
Yokomo is "high end" for you?? Oh, well...
Do we have an elitist here?
Absolutely! 👍