Adam had a gun that one shots the Varia Suit rendering Samus helpless. No one seems to notice or care that this man has the most efficient gun on the face of the known universe. Instead they would rather focus on Samus showing emotion for some reason. Why aren't the pirates after that tech? That would solve all their problems.
@@NathanWubs Hey all im saying is. she was sustaining a lot of hits and punishment the whole time. but that one blaster shot put her out. def becasue the writer wanted their death scene. but the implecation is that gun is OP.
I still don't understand why he shot her. Samus: Why did you shoot me? Adam: Those Metroids are not freezable. Samus: And that gives you the right to shoot me? Adam: Yes.
Actually there is a good reason for that. He knew that she would try to go to Sector Zero after hearing of it, a thing that she actually tries to do anyway, so incapacitating her was the only was to ensure she would not throw her life away, which was the whole point of Adam's sacrifice.
I think I'm the one of the few who isn't bothered by Samus's emotional state, her friends are literally dying all around her. She even got upset in Corruption over the deaths of the hunters. Even I died a little inside when Rundas got the axe. And Ridley...if that thing had popped up in front of me, I'd have wet my pants. Adam is kind of a dick, though, he was abusing his power over the mission, I didn't like him. But, I think Samus got emotional because she's human, not because she's a woman.
@@frohawk8465 They got space suits up the ass, Adam just had to de-attach the thing jump out and get back to the ship or have someone pick him up, he didn't need to be on that part
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 He clearly states in the game that Sector Zero can only be detached and destroyed by the inside, whoever had to do it had to die, because he knew it was better that the GF didn't get its filthy hands on those unfreezable metroids. Considering that it was either him or Samus, he chose to let her live since, as he put it, he's not a galactic savior but he could save her, and as we saw in Fusion onward Adam did the right and most useful thing.
Adam's such a good friend of Samus that he SHOT HER!! SHOT HER IN THE BACK!! All because she was about to freeze some metroids that can't be frozen, but were frozen immediately after by Adam. Seriously, why do people like Adam as a character? Why do people like Samus's characterization in this game? Why do people like this game's story at all?
Actually there is a good reason for that. He knew that she would try to go to Sector Zero after hearing of it, a thing that she actually tries to do anyway, so incapacitating her was the only was to ensure she would not throw her life away, which was the whole point of Adam's sacrifice.
Lol so much for a "perfect military mind". He let all of his team members die and even killed himself because he didn't trust the woman that has saved the universe like 7 times.
Well the fact is instead of watching over his team he was more focused on watching over samus and making sure she didn’t do something that he didn’t order her to do, despite the fact that he really shouldn’t be bossing her around to begin with. If he did focus more on his team rather than focus on Samus he would have been able to find out about the deleter and could’ve warn his team that there was an imposter among them and to be careful. This in my opinion makes him heavily responsible for their deaths.
@@loganrobson8624 Did you miss the part where Adam was able to watch everyone's vision by his room other than Samus's? The deleter was the only one outmaneuvering him, otherwise he wasn't only focusing on her at all. Not to mention that he also was doing his job, researching what happened precisely on the Bottle Ship as well as trying to destroy their bioweaspons before word came to the GF. There really wasn't much more he could have done...
Samus: Why did you shoot me? Adam: These Metroids can't be fozen. Samus: So your big idea was to shoot me in the back and leave me helpless against a threat that you weren't sure you could actually deal with? Adam: Yes. Samus: And then you froze the Metroid anyway which I was two seconds away from doing myself. Adam: Listen, I'm kind of stupid.
@Sanguiluna I never said its a negative thing that Samus shows emotions. On the contrary, I think its a good thing she's finally gotten a Character. And I think her Character is great.
I think the problem its not she having emotions, its that here, she is a defenseles girl, and in the other games, shes a warrior that sometimes have fear, but she fights until the end, but i think this encarnación of samus is good
Why didn't they just get the team and destroy the whole station? That would've taken the station off its collision course and destroyed all of the dangerous monsters who killed the research teams including the metroids, and ridley. The missiles samus got on her ship in metroid prime 3 should've atleast been able to destroy sector zero externally, or speaking of MP3 they could've made another bomb and used it on the station like they did with the leviathan shield.
Huh.... They ruined a character that never appeared before... COOL No, really. Samus says in Fussion that Adam died because she got arrogant and tried to kill something out of her power. WHY THE HECK DID THEY MAKE ADAM GO TO SEFL DESTRUCT!?!?
@ilikmiself *Possible Spoiler Warning* I was watching one of the last scenes in the game, and when Adam hears Samus is going to wipe out all the Metroids and MB in Sector Zero, he runs off, possibly knowing that the sector detaches and explodes if taken enough damage, or it could be fact that the Metroids in Sector Zero can't be destroyed (without the weakness of cold, your kinda screwed if you ran into a Metroid, even if you have a ton of e-tanks and missles).
@TheSorrel That same fault can easily be said to be shared by Samus herself, pre-Other M, yet you never hear anyone complain about that; so basically you'll never be satisfied, if you think it's a negative thing that Adam isn't more emotional, yet at the same time you think that it's a negative thing that Samus finally shows emotion.
@RandomFox42 No, I love the 2D Metroids. I like all Metroids (Hunters was the weakest other than maybe Pinball, though). What I don't like is all the people who don't like this game just because it portrays Samus as NOT Fearless, NOT unscathed, and NOT cold. To be honest, I always pictured she was like this for the most part. Sure she overreacted at parts like the Ridley scene, but really? Not to mention they ignore all the AWESOME things she does in the game.Fishing in Lava=cool in mah book.
@AlphaWolf428 She doesn't enjoy following orders in Other M either. She left Adams command because of that. But she knows that she has to work together with Adam and his Squad. And she fells Guilty because she left Adam when he needed her to back him up. (After he had to let his brother die) And yes, People can be Badass an like other People, and she likes him, thats why she does what he wants. And I don't get why people call Adam Characterless.
@99ronndk Yes and no. The Galactic Federation named it that because she was made to control the metroids and because of Mother Brain. It also stands for Melissa/Madeline Bergman.
@AlphaWolf428 And I think they didn't take Jennifer Hale because her voice didn't fit Samus looks. But I think Jessica Martin did a fantastic job. And why does everybody say Samus is Whiny? I mean, this is the first Metroid Game in which she uses Melee attacks. And she isn't that much of a Pawn to Adam as everybody says. Yes, she does what he says because she fells guilte about him, but when she heard that the Federation was producing Bioweapons she even screamed at him.
If Adam didnt destroy Sector 0, some people of the GF would have come to take some of these metroids. Think about Ridley. They took him to BSL, so they would do the same with the metroids.
@ilikmiself While not every Metroid was in Sector Zero (like 1 Queen Metroid whose genes weren't tampered with), Adam did detach Sector Zero which had all of the Metroids from the ship, but at the cost of his life in a powerful explosion that I would assume vaporized him and the Metroids.
@TheSorrel yes giving samus personality and character sounds great and please inform me when someone does because ive heard more emotion in the morning announcments at my highschool than from samus. and even if they brought jennifer hale in to grace us with her exquisite voice acting the writing is so horrendously terrible that it wouldnt have made a difference. i literally went numb during the cutscenes. if samu says "confession time" one more time i will crash my car into a elementary school
Who wouldn't want to see me die because I forgot that self destruct systems can be activated externally and that Samus has defeated all types of Metroids in the past including ones immune to being frozen? Now, I know what you're thinking. That this is stupid. But that's only because you're not seeing the underlying brilliance of it which I will explain. You see it's... because.. the.. I... LOOK, IT'S DARK SAMUS. *runs*
@Sanguiluna So, a Charismatic General leading his Troops into battle personally, who cares for his loved ones but is still able to make hard desicions under tough conditions and only speaks after he thought about his words is you normal, average guy? And don't tell me Im over-interpreting, this is how he is portrayed in this game.
@AlphaWolf428 The Metroids could Only ecape, if certain parts of the Sector were destroyed, and then Self Destruct starts automatically. And Samus didn't self destruct the Ship in Fusion, she changed the course so it crashes into the Planet below.
@AlphaWolf428 follow follow up question(s), doesnt samus do the EXACT SAME THING later in metroid fusion? lets recap, she goes into a secret sector in a space ship to find it full of metroid and has to detatch and blow it up from the inside, except she lived.
@AJKay204 the thumbs down means (correct me if im wrong, as I haven't played this in a while) her response to Adam's "Any objections lady?" question, the thumbs down means 2 things, 1: that she understands the mission, and 2: Not like being called lady.
@TheSorrel don't you mean totally makes sense? and b, it does not. what the hell did they plan to do when the metroids escape (like they always do)? just say oh well and let things work them self out? also i should mention that samus didnt need to hack anything to set the ship to explode in metroid fusion. she pressed a few buttons and got the hell out of there, it was adams idea to do that in the first place. i think everyone put their idiot hats on at this point in the storyline.
Soma Raid My reasoning is along the lines of personality, but not because she acquired one. Samus already was defined by her actions and as the Prime series had shown, she already had a quite compelling character, even if silent. Surely Zelda fans would argue that Link has a good personality and characterization, although I cannot say any speaking role he had did him any good (looking at you Zelda cartoon). I was all for Samus before, but this weak, sniveling, subservient and terrible character should not be Samus. Even if the old Samus had no personality it would still be better. Frankly, this game was offensive to characterization of Samus we had seen beforehand. Honestly, if this is the future of what was once gaming's strongest female character, I sincerely hope as a fan, that they do not make another Metroid game.
snikrit Well..what if the old samus was just like this one and you just thought differently..even tho she is a strong warrior on the outside..she is just human on the inside and loosing somebody you are very close to is a strong shock for everybody..even space bounty hunters for that....also what has this to do with women not being able to play game?
I said nothing in regards to women not being able to play a game, and was simply talking to the fact that games that do not ignore their female players or even make strong attempts to appeal to women just really do not exist (or are functionally rare enough not too). I will admit, I personally prefer a more Master Chief like Samus, as that is an incredibly rare female character type, and I see no reason for it to be bound (almost) exclusively to male characters. I would not have problems with a more human Samus if it was at all relatable or believable, however the execution in Other M in this regard is so poor, that I personally find it offensive to a character who has had such an long history of being a strong independent badass. In the end the story of this game just turned Samus into a weak willed, battered person syndrome (beaten wife syndrome) analogue. Besides, How many times has Ridley died up to this point? I simply don't buy into the PTSD argument, unless they retcon the entire history of the character's in game actions. The game is just too inconsistent with the character in every other portrayal, its not the Samus we had before, and there was nothing wrong with her that way.
Samus isn't in love with Adam. She says in that game that he was like a father to her. Now let me ask, are you romanticly in love with your parents? I hope not.
@pkleee (post 2) at the time, they didn't think they had to set the ship to self-destruct (not to mention they were stil looking for traces of other survivors)
@Sanguiluna He is unable to share his emotions, even with the ones he trusts. Thats why Samus leaves him, because she thought, that he didn't care about his Brother. And thats why she thinks about what he is thinking about her. Because she can't tell.
Am I the only one who notices that Samus' butt grows three times and big in this cutscene? It's like How the Grinch Stole Christmas. 'And it is said that when she realized that Adam was going to die, her butt grew not one, not two, but THREE sizes that day.' Seriously, WTF?
@TheSorrel Because he is. He's virtually a Gary Stu, if all of Samus's musings about him are to be believed. The way he was portrayed in this game is basically the way Samus has been portrayed in all the games before this one.
To the people going on about Metroids being unfreezable in other games, those are different types of Metroids. The Bottleship was designed to mimic Zebes and as such ZEBESIAN Metroids, the ones that only die from being frozen and shot by missiles afterwards pretty much, are the ones being dealt with here. And before anyone blurts out "but Adam froze it!", he theorized it was vulnerable due to it being an infant. Since he didn't just come right back out of Sector 0 after freezing an adult one, it's pretty clear that the Zebesian Metroids in Other M have had their freezing weakness removed, making them pretty much unstoppable death machines short of a chunk of a space station exploding to kill them. As for not getting to go through Sector 0, I thought it was perfectly reasonable NOT to go into it. I mean it's essentially fucking suicide to do so if Zebesian Metroids have had their ice weakness removed.
I just realised that Metroids 25th Anniversary was in 2011 along with The Legend of Zelda, and Nintendo didn't do shit. All they did was give Samus a voice. Whoopee. The Legend of Zelda got a symphony, a prequel, and other shit. Just really fucking nice Nintendo, once again you focus only on the money making series.
@isop9021 They where not cheesy, and by all means not Pseudo pholosophical, they didn't even scratch Philosophy. The Story was good. It was not a master peace but it kept me interested and the Sacrifice of Adam was just awesome.
Did you know that Adam died the same way how Ian dies? They're inside something (Adam: Sector Zero, Ian: Drive Unit), it detaches, and then it explodes. Reason? To pay the price of salvation.
(post 3) Sry bout that, my phone accidentally posted before I wanted to. Anyhow, I believe he meant that a) human weapons at the time wouldn't work (or weapons fitted for a human, in the case of Samus) and they would need a bigger "bang", and/or b) all of the Metroids in that section were still killable, but only because they were still in their infancy, so they still needed to be wiped out FAST. And if the hatch doors remain locked, how could Adam jump out? Especially if their reinforced?
He explodes as well in Prime 3, and that was the latest Meroid game untill Other M. And only because he might survived Super Metroid, doesn't mean that Samus knows this. He exploded right before her. And nevermind that there was plethora of time for the Space Pirates to collect his leftovers and resurrect him elsewhere. Oh and we are talking about the game that told an entire story without one word, do you think that it wouldn't be able to show that Ridley would be alive, if that is important.
i dont yhink adam is a bad guy sure annoying at times but he was a great friend 2 samus. i think he shot her because he knew samus would try 2 stop him and didn't want her sacrificing her life
@TheSorrel again i say, worst failsafe ever. you would think they would have a button in the control center in case things went to shit, which they often do when metroids are around.
(post 2) 3. You say that weapons tech at the time wouldn't sufficiently damage the sector to destroy it. However, as Other M is after Corruption, gunship missiles do exist. Given that Samus retained almost all of her upgrades (but refrained from using them), I'd be surprised she would not have the gunship missiles. And remember the missiles were able to take out Leviathan shields, while the GF could no. The missiles should be able to damage the sector no matter how well-protected it is.
Samus also discovered on her journey that Zebesians are cloned on the BOTTLE SHIP. And that there's a manipulative creature onboard that looks like ridley without wings. Hmmm, I guess someone like a smart bounty hunter would be able to put 1 and 1 together. What is Samus's job again?
@AlphaWolf428 Did you even listen? Yes, she's talking a little reserved, because she is narrating. How much emphasis do you put into a narration of traumatising events? Just listen to her, when shes actually talking on screen, like, in this video. You can't tell me she's emotionless or talks like a little girl. And don't tell me you really think Team Ninja had anything to do with the story, script or cutscenes. Samus doesn't behave weak in other M, she's actually really strong.
You have to play Metroid 3 to understand that part.But well the thing is when a Metroid is in its adult form, is way bigger, than that "little infant metroid". Look for the end of Metroid 3 in youtube, and you will see.
She would get emotional, but I don't think she would threaten him. She wouldn't get this emotional though... she would do what she did in Corruption and just squeez her fist together to forget it.
@AlphaWolf428 on the other hand this game DID come onto the stage with the whole METROID thing in big letters on the cover, so maybe i should hold it to higher standards i DID do so to all the other metroid games and i still enjoyed them even in comparison to tsuper metroid. as a GAME other m isn't bad it does have some appeal if you keep a pair of ear plugs handy for whenever dopple-samus decides to start talking, but as a METROID GAME its horrendous. i think that's fair.
You think he didn't know that? I'm sure Adam knows mostly everything about her, even her armor, after all, her armor is so powerful, the Federation -tries- to copy it. If Adam let her go in, that would have been horrible, there's no need to give her that chance. That was to show that she cant do everything, she is just another person, not a killing machine. While I believe everything makes sense, they could have made it easier for others who just cant understand as well.
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Adam had a gun that one shots the Varia Suit rendering Samus helpless. No one seems to notice or care that this man has the most efficient gun on the face of the known universe. Instead they would rather focus on Samus showing emotion for some reason. Why aren't the pirates after that tech? That would solve all their problems.
It did not shoot through the suit, her suit had been unstable all game, unless a guy would rescue her.
@@NathanWubs Hey all im saying is. she was sustaining a lot of hits and punishment the whole time. but that one blaster shot put her out. def becasue the writer wanted their death scene. but the implecation is that gun is OP.
I still don't understand why he shot her.
Samus: Why did you shoot me?
Adam: Those Metroids are not freezable.
Samus: And that gives you the right to shoot me?
Adam: Yes.
I don't get it either.
Actually there is a good reason for that. He knew that she would try to go to Sector Zero after hearing of it, a thing that she actually tries to do anyway, so incapacitating her was the only was to ensure she would not throw her life away, which was the whole point of Adam's sacrifice.
Samus: Why did you shoot me?
Adam: Those Metroids can't be frozen!
Samus: Cool, but WHY DID YOU SHOOT ME?!
Because she would have tried to do what Adam ended up doing, he worries for her
@@wintergrox205 he still shot her
@@wintergrox205 its a joke
@@susiehaltmann3342 Samus is more powerful on the power suit so the shot was necessary
Just compare this Samus with the Samus in Metroid Dread
she was closer to Adam Malkovich than she was, Her parents. She's known him his whole life, and her parents for just a fraction of the time.
I think I'm the one of the few who isn't bothered by Samus's emotional state, her friends are literally dying all around her. She even got upset in Corruption over the deaths of the hunters. Even I died a little inside when Rundas got the axe. And Ridley...if that thing had popped up in front of me, I'd have wet my pants. Adam is kind of a dick, though, he was abusing his power over the mission, I didn't like him. But, I think Samus got emotional because she's human, not because she's a woman.
You know how pointless it is to kill off a character (with such bravado) who we never learned to care about in the first place?
SA-X, the main villain of Metroid Fusion did the same thing as Adam 5 seconds for selfish reasons.
Adam almost killed her. Many kinds of monsters hit or shoot her. Nothing happens. When he shoots her, she almost dies. How powerful he is.
Welp... At least you're finally authorized for everything.
@PaperLucario2010 Samus doesn't love him, he was like a father to him.
@PaperLucario2010
She thumbs down because she has an objection with the mission. She wants to go in and try without anyone dying.
Farewell, Adam, See you in Fusion
Alright, he probably just wanted to see her in her zero suit.
I kind of hope they make this game non-cannon :/
Too bad
Her job? My maid, obviously.
What, self sufficient women in the military? Pah! That is a job for manly men with flamboyant hats!
In Metroid Prime, she would not get this emotional, instead, she would most likely just droop her head down and then turn back and just walk away.
Am I the only one that cheered when he died so she'd quit taking orders from him?
But he left one last mission for her.
01:17 Samus definitely lost her mind!!! ; (
Oh Adam, you trully had the most emotional and completely useless sacrifice of all fiction
Im actually asking here. How exactly was his sacrifice useless?
@@frohawk8465 They got space suits up the ass, Adam just had to de-attach the thing jump out and get back to the ship or have someone pick him up, he didn't need to be on that part
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 oh! Ok, thank you!
@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143
He clearly states in the game that Sector Zero can only be detached and destroyed by the inside, whoever had to do it had to die, because he knew it was better that the GF didn't get its filthy hands on those unfreezable metroids. Considering that it was either him or Samus, he chose to let her live since, as he put it, he's not a galactic savior but he could save her, and as we saw in Fusion onward Adam did the right and most useful thing.
@@mds_main exactly 💪🏽
Oh and she looked she almost had heart attack when Adam uttered words: "Self-destruct protocal".
On a side note Samus has some nice hips on her.
This is what plays in my head every time I see that "this is my pet duck Adam going for his first swim" video
Adam's such a good friend of Samus that he SHOT HER!! SHOT HER IN THE BACK!!
All because she was about to freeze some metroids that can't be frozen, but were frozen immediately after by Adam.
Seriously, why do people like Adam as a character? Why do people like Samus's characterization in this game? Why do people like this game's story at all?
This doesn't make much sense to me either
Actually there is a good reason for that. He knew that she would try to go to Sector Zero after hearing of it, a thing that she actually tries to do anyway, so incapacitating her was the only was to ensure she would not throw her life away, which was the whole point of Adam's sacrifice.
if he didnt incapacite her, samus would've died and metroid wouldnt exist
This is horrifically cringe worthy. God I can't believe they ruined Samus this much.
Why? Because they made Samus more human?
I think this is a fantastic element they added.
@@RedFenril Exactly 💪🏽 these weirdos in the comments are mad that she showed feminine emotions to a man that she admired dearly for once.
Metroid: Mama
Samus: The baby
Lol so much for a "perfect military mind". He let all of his team members die and even killed himself because he didn't trust the woman that has saved the universe like 7 times.
He didn't let his team die, and he sacrificed his life in order to save Samus's, you should play the game and pay attention to what it says and shows.
I played the game, he did kinda let his team die
@@loganrobson8624
How so?
May I also remind to you that the presence of the unknown deleter is what really compromised it all.
Well the fact is instead of watching over his team he was more focused on watching over samus and making sure she didn’t do something that he didn’t order her to do, despite the fact that he really shouldn’t be bossing her around to begin with. If he did focus more on his team rather than focus on Samus he would have been able to find out about the deleter and could’ve warn his team that there was an imposter among them and to be careful. This in my opinion makes him heavily responsible for their deaths.
@@loganrobson8624
Did you miss the part where Adam was able to watch everyone's vision by his room other than Samus's? The deleter was the only one outmaneuvering him, otherwise he wasn't only focusing on her at all. Not to mention that he also was doing his job, researching what happened precisely on the Bottle Ship as well as trying to destroy their bioweaspons before word came to the GF. There really wasn't much more he could have done...
you wouldn't be freak out if your natural nemesis was again facing you? After try to end his life multiple times?
And still he manage to come back?
Actually, this is the first time Ridley has resurrected. Every other time he was merely defeated and buggered off or was just injured.
If he hadn't, she would've completely disobeyed him and just walked right on in.
When did Adam get an Anti-Samus Bazooka?
Samus: Why did you shoot me?
Adam: These Metroids can't be fozen.
Samus: So your big idea was to shoot me in the back and leave me helpless against a threat that you weren't sure you could actually deal with?
Adam: Yes.
Samus: And then you froze the Metroid anyway which I was two seconds away from doing myself.
Adam: Listen, I'm kind of stupid.
how could a single shot disable her varia suit?
@Sanguiluna I never said its a negative thing that Samus shows emotions. On the contrary, I think its a good thing she's finally gotten a Character. And I think her Character is great.
I think the problem its not she having emotions, its that here, she is a defenseles girl, and in the other games, shes a warrior that sometimes have fear, but she fights until the end, but i think this encarnación of samus is good
@@bananolo8468 She's not defenseless. She's voulnarable, as a Protagonist should be.
Why didn't they just get the team and destroy the whole station? That would've taken the station off its collision course and destroyed all of the dangerous monsters who killed the research teams including the metroids, and ridley. The missiles samus got on her ship in metroid prime 3 should've atleast been able to destroy sector zero externally, or speaking of MP3 they could've made another bomb and used it on the station like they did with the leviathan shield.
Huh.... They ruined a character that never appeared before... COOL
No, really. Samus says in Fussion that Adam died because she got arrogant and tried to kill something out of her power. WHY THE HECK DID THEY MAKE ADAM GO TO SEFL DESTRUCT!?!?
@ilikmiself *Possible Spoiler Warning* I was watching one of the last scenes in the game, and when Adam hears Samus is going to wipe out all the Metroids and MB in Sector Zero, he runs off, possibly knowing that the sector detaches and explodes if taken enough damage, or it could be fact that the Metroids in Sector Zero can't be destroyed (without the weakness of cold, your kinda screwed if you ran into a Metroid, even if you have a ton of e-tanks and missles).
@TheSorrel That same fault can easily be said to be shared by Samus herself, pre-Other M, yet you never hear anyone complain about that; so basically you'll never be satisfied, if you think it's a negative thing that Adam isn't more emotional, yet at the same time you think that it's a negative thing that Samus finally shows emotion.
Remember what her and Anthony talked about. She would have taken the chance, thus dooming everyone. Adam had to shoot her.
@RandomFox42 No, I love the 2D Metroids. I like all Metroids (Hunters was the weakest other than maybe Pinball, though).
What I don't like is all the people who don't like this game just because it portrays Samus as NOT Fearless, NOT unscathed, and NOT cold. To be honest, I always pictured she was like this for the most part. Sure she overreacted at parts like the Ridley scene, but really?
Not to mention they ignore all the AWESOME things she does in the game.Fishing in Lava=cool in mah book.
@AlphaWolf428 She doesn't enjoy following orders in Other M either. She left Adams command because of that.
But she knows that she has to work together with Adam and his Squad. And she fells Guilty because she left Adam when he needed her to back him up. (After he had to let his brother die)
And yes, People can be Badass an like other People, and she likes him, thats why she does what he wants.
And I don't get why people call Adam Characterless.
I always cry at this part -.-
@99ronndk Yes and no. The Galactic Federation named it that because she was made to control the metroids and because of Mother Brain.
It also stands for Melissa/Madeline Bergman.
@AlphaWolf428 And I think they didn't take Jennifer Hale because her voice didn't fit Samus looks. But I think Jessica Martin did a fantastic job.
And why does everybody say Samus is Whiny? I mean, this is the first Metroid Game in which she uses Melee attacks.
And she isn't that much of a Pawn to Adam as everybody says. Yes, she does what he says because she fells guilte about him, but when she heard that the Federation was producing Bioweapons she even screamed at him.
If Adam didnt destroy Sector 0, some people of the GF would have come to take some of these metroids. Think about Ridley. They took him to BSL, so they would do the same with the metroids.
And the audience didn't give two fucks.
@ilikmiself While not every Metroid was in Sector Zero (like 1 Queen Metroid whose genes weren't tampered with), Adam did detach Sector Zero which had all of the Metroids from the ship, but at the cost of his life in a powerful explosion that I would assume vaporized him and the Metroids.
@TheSorrel yes giving samus personality and character sounds great and please inform me when someone does because ive heard more emotion in the morning announcments at my highschool than from samus. and even if they brought jennifer hale in to grace us with her exquisite voice acting the writing is so horrendously terrible that it wouldnt have made a difference. i literally went numb during the cutscenes. if samu says "confession time" one more time i will crash my car into a elementary school
Such a sad story. Even sadder the fact she never had the chance to tell him her feelings...
Who wouldn't want to see me die because I forgot that self destruct systems can be activated externally and that Samus has defeated all types of Metroids in the past including ones immune to being frozen?
Now, I know what you're thinking. That this is stupid. But that's only because you're not seeing the underlying brilliance of it which I will explain. You see it's... because.. the.. I... LOOK, IT'S DARK SAMUS. *runs*
Wow... Adam's a TERRIBLE commanding officer...
@Sanguiluna So, a Charismatic General leading his Troops into battle personally, who cares for his loved ones but is still able to make hard desicions under tough conditions and only speaks after he thought about his words is you normal, average guy?
And don't tell me Im over-interpreting, this is how he is portrayed in this game.
Why the fuck didnt adam just allow samus to drop a few power bombs in Sector Zero as it detaches. No one dies, no further casualties.
@AlphaWolf428 The Metroids could Only ecape, if certain parts of the Sector were destroyed, and then Self Destruct starts automatically.
And Samus didn't self destruct the Ship in Fusion, she changed the course so it crashes into the Planet below.
@AlphaWolf428 follow follow up question(s), doesnt samus do the EXACT SAME THING later in metroid fusion? lets recap, she goes into a secret sector in a space ship to find it full of metroid and has to detatch and blow it up from the inside, except she lived.
@AJKay204 the thumbs down means (correct me if im wrong, as I haven't played this in a while) her response to Adam's "Any objections lady?" question, the thumbs down means 2 things, 1: that she understands the mission, and 2: Not like being called lady.
@TheSorrel don't you mean totally makes sense? and b, it does not. what the hell did they plan to do when the metroids escape (like they always do)? just say oh well and let things work them self out? also i should mention that samus didnt need to hack anything to set the ship to explode in metroid fusion. she pressed a few buttons and got the hell out of there, it was adams idea to do that in the first place. i think everyone put their idiot hats on at this point in the storyline.
Stuff like this is why female gaming and game characters cannot have nice things
Damien Anderson ...what is your reasoning?..just because they gave samus a personality?
Soma Raid My reasoning is along the lines of personality, but not because she acquired one. Samus already was defined by her actions and as the Prime series had shown, she already had a quite compelling character, even if silent. Surely Zelda fans would argue that Link has a good personality and characterization, although I cannot say any speaking role he had did him any good (looking at you Zelda cartoon). I was all for Samus before, but this weak, sniveling, subservient and terrible character should not be Samus. Even if the old Samus had no personality it would still be better. Frankly, this game was offensive to characterization of Samus we had seen beforehand. Honestly, if this is the future of what was once gaming's strongest female character, I sincerely hope as a fan, that they do not make another Metroid game.
snikrit Well..what if the old samus was just like this one and you just thought differently..even tho she is a strong warrior on the outside..she is just human on the inside and loosing somebody you are very close to is a strong shock for everybody..even space bounty hunters for that....also what has this to do with women not being able to play game?
I said nothing in regards to women not being able to play a game, and was simply talking to the fact that games that do not ignore their female players or even make strong attempts to appeal to women just really do not exist (or are functionally rare enough not too).
I will admit, I personally prefer a more Master Chief like Samus, as that is an incredibly rare female character type, and I see no reason for it to be bound (almost) exclusively to male characters. I would not have problems with a more human Samus if it was at all relatable or believable, however the execution in Other M in this regard is so poor, that I personally find it offensive to a character who has had such an long history of being a strong independent badass. In the end the story of this game just turned Samus into a weak willed, battered person syndrome (beaten wife syndrome) analogue.
Besides, How many times has Ridley died up to this point? I simply don't buy into the PTSD argument, unless they retcon the entire history of the character's in game actions. The game is just too inconsistent with the character in every other portrayal, its not the Samus we had before, and there was nothing wrong with her that way.
Samus isn't in love with Adam. She says in that game that he was like a father to her. Now let me ask, are you romanticly in love with your parents? I hope not.
@pkleee (post 2) at the time, they didn't think they had to set the ship to self-destruct (not to mention they were stil looking for traces of other survivors)
@AJKay204 Adam said no objections so the thumbs down means "no" Samus has no objections.
@Sanguiluna He is unable to share his emotions, even with the ones he trusts.
Thats why Samus leaves him, because she thought, that he didn't care about his Brother. And thats why she thinks about what he is thinking about her. Because she can't tell.
Am I the only one who notices that Samus' butt grows three times and big in this cutscene? It's like How the Grinch Stole Christmas. 'And it is said that when she realized that Adam was going to die, her butt grew not one, not two, but THREE sizes that day.' Seriously, WTF?
@TheSorrel Because he is. He's virtually a Gary Stu, if all of Samus's musings about him are to be believed. The way he was portrayed in this game is basically the way Samus has been portrayed in all the games before this one.
Sorry, I totally forgot about that.
And yes indeed, your hat is quite flamboyant and extravagant as well.
To the people going on about Metroids being unfreezable in other games, those are different types of Metroids. The Bottleship was designed to mimic Zebes and as such ZEBESIAN Metroids, the ones that only die from being frozen and shot by missiles afterwards pretty much, are the ones being dealt with here.
And before anyone blurts out "but Adam froze it!", he theorized it was vulnerable due to it being an infant. Since he didn't just come right back out of Sector 0 after freezing an adult one, it's pretty clear that the Zebesian Metroids in Other M have had their freezing weakness removed, making them pretty much unstoppable death machines short of a chunk of a space station exploding to kill them.
As for not getting to go through Sector 0, I thought it was perfectly reasonable NOT to go into it. I mean it's essentially fucking suicide to do so if Zebesian Metroids have had their ice weakness removed.
We didn't see physicaly die ...
*cough* THE CHOZO *cough*
I just realised that Metroids 25th Anniversary was in 2011 along with The Legend of Zelda, and Nintendo didn't do shit. All they did was give Samus a voice. Whoopee.
The Legend of Zelda got a symphony, a prequel, and other shit.
Just really fucking nice Nintendo, once again you focus only on the money making series.
@isop9021 They where not cheesy, and by all means not Pseudo pholosophical, they didn't even scratch Philosophy. The Story was good. It was not a master peace but it kept me interested and the Sacrifice of Adam was just awesome.
Why don't I leave this ship and blow it up from space?
Nah... I'll just blow myself up instead, because I'm Adam, the brilliant military mastermind.
Did you know that Adam died the same way how Ian dies?
They're inside something (Adam: Sector Zero, Ian: Drive Unit), it detaches, and then it explodes. Reason? To pay the price of salvation.
This scene is fucking horrible, gives me big Resident Evil campy vibes, and that in a Metroid game is laughable.
Um, there's a error in Samus' voice 3:56😳
can someone please please tell me what the thumbs down mean?i want to buy this,but for now i dnt know anything
This is one of the times I realised that Samus has 'high heeled' boots.
I love Adam, he's epic as all hell!
Shooting me is not authorized!
Protect me, loyal minions! Use your plasma beams.
(post 3) Sry bout that, my phone accidentally posted before I wanted to. Anyhow, I believe he meant that a) human weapons at the time wouldn't work (or weapons fitted for a human, in the case of Samus) and they would need a bigger "bang", and/or b) all of the Metroids in that section were still killable, but only because they were still in their infancy, so they still needed to be wiped out FAST. And if the hatch doors remain locked, how could Adam jump out? Especially if their reinforced?
Yes, she is emotional and often doesn't express it. This is stated in a manga there is of Metroid, which tells the story of her beginnings.
@PaperLucario2010 So, all of the Metroids were in Sector Zero, and Adam detached it from the rest of the area?
Haters gonna hate, I loved this game
He explodes as well in Prime 3, and that was the latest Meroid game untill Other M. And only because he might survived Super Metroid, doesn't mean that Samus knows this. He exploded right before her. And nevermind that there was plethora of time for the Space Pirates to collect his leftovers and resurrect him elsewhere. Oh and we are talking about the game that told an entire story without one word, do you think that it wouldn't be able to show that Ridley would be alive, if that is important.
i dont yhink adam is a bad guy sure annoying at times but he was a great friend 2 samus. i think he shot her because he knew samus would try 2 stop him and didn't want her sacrificing her life
well the other ones was robots and mechas this is the first time he resurrects
@TheSorrel again i say, worst failsafe ever. you would think they would have a button in the control center in case things went to shit, which they often do when metroids are around.
@AlphaWolf428 Yes, bacause its impossible to hack into a computer system and self destruckt the entire Ship.
Sorry, but it makes totally sense.
i cryed at this part then i forgot to save and had to redue it. Nitendo bring him back some how
So the metroid wouldn't attack her for shooting it.
(post 2)
3. You say that weapons tech at the time wouldn't sufficiently damage the sector to destroy it. However, as Other M is after Corruption, gunship missiles do exist. Given that Samus retained almost all of her upgrades (but refrained from using them), I'd be surprised she would not have the gunship missiles. And remember the missiles were able to take out Leviathan shields, while the GF could no. The missiles should be able to damage the sector no matter how well-protected it is.
Samus also discovered on her journey that Zebesians are cloned on the BOTTLE SHIP. And that there's a manipulative creature onboard that looks like ridley without wings. Hmmm, I guess someone like a smart bounty hunter would be able to put 1 and 1 together. What is Samus's job again?
actually her parents are dead thats why she sees him as a father
@animeartist64 yes, its the Mario Bros. who are causing all of the trouble on the ship. (no, really it is)
any objections Lady?
One last word of warning....USE YOUR PLASMA BEAM!!!
@AlphaWolf428 Did you even listen? Yes, she's talking a little reserved, because she is narrating. How much emphasis do you put into a narration of traumatising events?
Just listen to her, when shes actually talking on screen, like, in this video. You can't tell me she's emotionless or talks like a little girl.
And don't tell me you really think Team Ninja had anything to do with the story, script or cutscenes.
Samus doesn't behave weak in other M, she's actually really strong.
You have to play Metroid 3 to understand that part.But well the thing is when a Metroid is in its adult form, is way bigger, than that "little infant metroid". Look for the end of Metroid 3 in youtube, and you will see.
She would get emotional, but I don't think she would threaten him. She wouldn't get this emotional though... she would do what she did in Corruption and just squeez her fist together to forget it.
@Raptor37 This must be someone who only saw the G4 review.
@AlphaWolf428 on the other hand this game DID come onto the stage with the whole METROID thing in big letters on the cover, so maybe i should hold it to higher standards i DID do so to all the other metroid games and i still enjoyed them even in comparison to tsuper metroid. as a GAME other m isn't bad it does have some appeal if you keep a pair of ear plugs handy for whenever dopple-samus decides to start talking, but as a METROID GAME its horrendous. i think that's fair.
2:15 DAT...DAT....
You think he didn't know that? I'm sure Adam knows mostly everything about her, even her armor, after all, her armor is so powerful, the Federation -tries- to copy it.
If Adam let her go in, that would have been horrible, there's no need to give her that chance. That was to show that she cant do everything, she is just another person, not a killing machine.
While I believe everything makes sense, they could have made it easier for others who just cant understand as well.