Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition + Ray Reconstruction Updates Tested!
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I shed a single tear every time I launch up a maxed out 60fps+ version of this game. We’re literally playing cutscenes now people.
Me with my gtx 1050: you guys are getting over 30fps?
Me with my two large potato's setup: You guys are getting more then 4 fps?
Lmao we've been playing cutscenes since ps4 I suggest you broaden your horizons.
@@samza9622 i guess it depends on what kind of games you are playing.
@@samza9622what PS4 game are you talking about? No features like ray tracing let alone path tracing have been possible on that ancient hardware lol
The ghosting really drives me crazy, especially in indirectly lit areas. Really hope that can be improved
It is so painfully noticeable, I had to turn it off
Same I turn it off@@GhostsGraphics
path tracing as of now is completely unusable if you actually play the game
the price you pay for real time path tracing is horrible image quality yet df keeps pushing this like it's actually usuable for gameplay
I found it very noticeable at 1440p but not at 4K I guess the base resolution needs to be at a certain level for it to turn it out well
Good to hear they're continuously working on the Ray Reconstruction feature.
Back in the old day, the PS3 could have bonus content and DLC on disc, like videos etc and it would be a seperate menu item in XMB. Sony are the masters at taking 1 step forward 2 steps back.
I have for the first time played CP 2077 on my RTX 4080 and the feeling walking through Heywood and CORPO Center around 6-9pm is so immersive. Night City is blowing me away.
I jumped from a PS4 Pro to a 4080 as well. Even before all the updates it felt totally different on PC. We’re living in great times.
@@SkankHunt007 Hey folks, this is where we are all gonna brag about our rigs ^^ so jump in and sign your specs down below please.
We all car.e
@@phant0mdummy We get it. You’re poor.
@@SkankHunt007just here to slightly flex, on my 4080 it feels so incredible
Ikr I can't seem to progress in this game as I'm constantly stopping and just looking around in awe at how good this game is and looks, really impressive no other video game can pull me in like night city does.
Nothing worse than fan boys absolutely mental, why u can’t enjoy ur gaming platform of choice without some gremlin saying it sucks just baffles me
It's great to have the Ultimate Edition that I bought last week, but when installing still needed to install updates ontop of the 3 disc install. So still not quite the "Ultimate Edtion".......
Also on PS to release with the DLC on disc PS requires a new SKU for the game and recharges fees to the game company. Likely the real reason for no disc.
DF should do a comparison between Psycho RT vs PT+RR.....
check out the VRAM usage in patch 2.1
on 2080Ti at 1440p i went from 7GB to 10.5GB VRAM used
It exactly everyone consensus John. Damn oil painting look.
Perfect video as usual gentlemen. Thank you!
My gf thinks Richard is Colin Robinson from What we do in the shadows.
It's a decision one must do. Get a extremely expensive PC to play Cyberpunk 2077 now, or wait a few years for consoles (and games) to catch up (or overcome) and enoy those eventually. Although Cyberpunk will always stand as extremely timeless and futurelooking game.
Consoles are never going to surpass PC especially in a world where Nvidia continues to dominate the graphics space ...
@via_negativa6183 they will never surpass PC, I agree. But they will definitely catch up to tech of today in next generation. I can see Cyberpunk 2077 re-release on PS6 with all the bells and whistles of today. I definitely agree we need some innovation in the console space if they don't want to always offer inferior experiences compared to PC
@@flojd574they offer better value which is fine
@@flojd574consoles dont need to cost a grand
Did you guys send technical review directly to studio like CDP Red ? If not you really should.
I bought a 3060 laptop a couple of years ago i wanted to play cyberpunk but thought id wait until everything got patched out im playing the 2.0 version and its runs 60 fps locked on high settings and looks and runs perfectly untill you turn anything ray tracing on so i leave that setting off …. So glad i waited im 6 hours in and its insane how good it looks and plays
AMD we need a DLSS3.5 equivalent, please...
Would’ve been willing to spend the extra money on the PS5 disc version, but after learning that not everything is included on the disc, I’m just going to get the $20 PS4 version and install the free upgrades.
Even if I decide to get Phantom Liberty afterwards, I’ll end up spending less money than the ultimate edition.
Sony’s hurting CDPR’s wallet, but it’s not my responsibility to make up for it.
Cyberpunk runs a lot better on the ps5. You might regret buying it on the ps4
@@gameave the PS5 upgrade is free for owners of the PS4 disc
The use of AI is like “When all you have is only a hammer, everything is a nail”. In place of a formal statistical study of a phenomenon, for a real understanding of a phenomenon, try AI and you are good to go.
if you want im doing a "playthough" of 2077 V1.0 on base xbox one if you want to lose some eyesight
While the PS5 version lacks the dlc, more ridiculously both console versions in this "Ultimate Edition" dont include the feature complete city. CDPR dropped patch 2.1, which includes the metro system and open highways among other things, on the same day the discs released. That patch is missing from the physical versions. While I dont find it surprising the product was released incomplete 3 weeks before Xmas, rather than being held back into the new year to release a fully feature complete version some time around March or April, I certainly do find it to be a cynical move by CDPR.
they should wait few days for 2.1 :D
Ray Reconstruction chat starts here czcams.com/video/GiEeBoadOrE/video.htmlsi=QK9xfTzRZ9q4WYMt&t=570
6:00 yeah, it's not early 1990s Sony when they god 'salty' with Nintendo xD
I ended up turning this off. Maybe I will revisit it again. But my issue was, the game just took on this "oil painting" look with ray reconstruction + path tracing on. It was especially evident in people's faces. Very distracting and took away from the realistic visuals...even though reflections, etc were all much better. So I just went back to psycho RT. I don't know why it does this...alan wake 2 with path tracing and ray reconstruction looks fantastic!
That is my issue with PT too in this game. It makes the environment look great but its affect on character models, particularly faces, washes out a LOT of detail, which becomes apparent when putting it back to Psycho RT. It's like PT completely ignores normal maps or something and when there is an LOD model loaded it just looks like gumby ass. With regards to RR... I think just lowering bounces and rays in the config is a better way to get performance without the increased smearing/oddities. I can care less how sharp a reflection is, reflections are the least fidelity impacting effect of RT for me.
exactly. pt on works fine but if you turn rr on, the game looks terrible with all the ghosting, esp on the npcs walking around. hope cdpr/nvidia can sort this issue out soon
running the game at higher resolution will solve that
@@crescentmoon256 I'm playing at 4K + DLSS quality...so I don't think so. The only thing that has helped reduce it was turning off sharpening completely. But it's still very noticeable
@@kuruptzZz Yeah and turning off sharpening makes the city look worse. No matter what new features nvidia tries to introduce to this game, we always seem to be stuck in this Sophie's choice situation where we have to choose between a great looking city and horrible looking NPCs, or a slightly less great looking city and significantly better looking NPCs.
I guess with patch 2.1 🤞🤞🤞
I still find it better to play with Psycho RayTracing than Pathtracing/RayReconstruction, the ghosting and blurriness of characters are better, but still there, and still much annoying.
I hope FSR 3.0 is included for update 2.1
I think they already confirmed it will take a little longer.
Yeah, I hope it takes six months are so or maybe not to get it at all. That would only be fair given how AMD does things with its competitors' tech in sponsored titles. I find it rich to see AMD folks whining about things like this now. 😂😅😂
@@SFAJmz05 he might own a 30 or 20 series gpu. Why do you assume he has an amd gpu?
@@SFAJmz05 FSR2.2, which greatly improves visual detail compared to 2.0/2.1, has been out since February and to this day Cyberpunk, an Nvidia sponsored game, has not implemented it, let alone 3.0. BTW, Radeon 7000 and 6000 users have been able to use Frame Gen with Cyberpunk and every other DX11/12/Vulkan game at will for months with their preview driver.
@@SFAJmz05 Not sure if you need to hear this, but buying from a corporation doesn’t make you complicit in running it. ”AMD folks” - being normal people who happen to own Radeon GPUs - never supported this practice, so it’s not rich in the slightest.
For me its looking better without ray recontruction in 4k with dlss sharpness at 1 instead. It needs to improve.
It's there any tricks to make it look good?
Even with the latest .dll files its still ugly.
Can you cover the differences of ReStir Gi has had on cyberpunk with the new 2.1 update. The ReStir Gi seems to make lighting worse in some instances?
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I almost can live with the ghosting to be honest that oil painting look though is god awful deal breaker for me..
i installed a bluray drive in my laptop, bluray movies can't be read via VLC without first installing some strange things in the C drive lmao, this is completely out of reach for the average Joe, so ye bluray for PC is a dead end unless they stop this drm bs
Xbox has had the ability to have 'DLCs' on disc since at least Life is Strange 2, because that game only had the first episode on PS4 yet the whole thing on One. Strange though considering that games like GTA Trilogy on PS4 (and PS5) allowed multiple different packages to be installed from one single disc. Either way this is a massive disappointment from CDPR and I hope they re-issue the game with DLC on disc for PS5.
Good job Sony. Meh. I'll be getting the GOG version anyway. I'll make my own "disk."
I was messing around a little, and apperently you can use DSR (digital super resolution) AND dlss now. It is buggy likely (i run countless of mods so its hard to tell) but. I have managed to render the game in 8k, and based on this used DLSS auto. This usually resulted in the game crashing. But for some reason it doesnt now. DLSS AND Ray reconstruction also stay enabled with Pathtracing OFF.
Made a rather long and boring vid just showing it in effect, forgot i disabled audio recording though my mic. /watch?v=CxfoC9hQlq0
That has worked since the creation of DLSS.
I've been running DSR the whole time. Works great, I push beyond my screen resolution then use DLSS for upscaling, image quality is pretty damn good.
The only games I have stability issues with are Fallout games (no DLSS), so business as usual.
Nah man, I discussed this with others on a modding website. They report the same behaviour (crashing when DSR/DLSS). Is your game modded or 100% vanilla?@@glenwaldrop8166
DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) has worked with DLSS since the start. At scales approaching 8k IDK why you wouldn't just switch over to DLDSR instead. Comparable image quality and significantly less wasteful.
i dont run like this i run my game in native 4k and use dlss quality so 1440p. I just messed about with it like i said @@willuigi64
@@willuigi64 IQ is slightly better but I haven't noticed enough of a difference to matter.
DLDSR is limited to a few resolutions, DSR has no limitation.
You all very much completely underestimate the pettiness that exists in boardrooms of companies. Sony started in video games out of spite of Nintendo not using their discs didn’t they?
This is a nutty comment section lol.
OOHO i cannot see the FLEE on the DESK RAY TRACE IS SHIT BHOOO HIOOOO ...GEN Z really
Digital is the best way to preserve games, I get to play arcade games from 40 years ago arguably better as well with tech like G-sync.When you guys in your 20s now get to 50 and want to play your old games, unless you're a collector digital is best way and tech like AI will make your old games look better than the original, like AI image enhancement does now to old movies.
This is also really dumb of them since they needed to wait for 1-2 patches after 2.1 to fix all the bugs before releasing an ultimate edition! Did they really think they could just change a lot of things and do it perfectly? That’s so disappointing.
I already own CP 2077 on PC & PS5, including the dlc.
I'm sorry for your loss.
@@deathtrooper2048 You’re still trash talking this game? Move on my guy lmao. I too own the game on PC and PS5, happily as well.
@@deathtrooper2048this game was ok on Series X and PC since launch minus the regular bugs now it is amazing, it was bad on Ps4/Xbox One and still is.
@@Owen01yeah same. Bought it first last year on ps5 and put in around 80 hours, though didn't finish it since I was waiting for the 2.0 update. This year I built a high end gaming pc and put in another 90 hours on a fresh playthrough. This game on a 4090 is like nothing I've experienced before.
Good job soldier.
Gamers simply cannot win:
PC - Games usually launch broken or somehow worse off than their console counterparts.
PS5 - Typically decent versions of games, but Sony has far less ideal features built into their console. Exclusives are hit and miss, depending on how much you like moviegames.
Xbox - Tons of really great quality of life, and user friendly features built into the console... but no exclusives to speak of.
They did it wrong. They made me replay with the dlc. Now halfway i need to replay again for this update.
Just incredible how good Alan Wake 2 looks in relation to Cyberpunk. Goes to show how much better a game can look when it's made with the tech in mind versus having it tacked on later.
Cyberpunk launched years before ray reconstruction was a thing... 💀💀
@@paulerxx That's my point
And skope of game Alan Wake 2 is smal Cyberpunk 2077 is big so much more asets and stuf and vetycaly map.
I think it´s more related to the fact that Cyberpunk is much more complex big open world game, I´m pretty sure they will improve RR to the point where it´s pretty much flawless in due time.
What are you blabbering!
CP is way more complex game in every way, and better optimized!
And what tech in AW2 when that game is completely static. It has static, baked, lighting. It's not even close to CP dynamism, fullness, and scope.
DF winning by the mere mention of the words shenanigans and kerfuffle lol.
"Revisisted" instead of "revisited" in the thumbnail. Just looking out. Thanks for all the great work you do!
The conspiracy about CDPR may be untrue, don't kid yourself about ideologies and "saltiness" not making it into the boardrooms of huge businesses. This absolutely happens.
There is nothing Ultimate about an Ultimate Edition of a game, when it's missing data. Sony wants total control over every single piece of software they sell, whether its a video game or a dvd ultra hd movie. Look guys, we are inching closer and closer towards a future without physical medium. I want everyone here to know that if you truly care about the death of physical medium, whether it be a games or dvd movies, then you need to help out, and stop buying everything digitally. There are millions like myself who have purchased physical copies of games and movies for decades, but it's all about to disappear. This is an easier fix than you think. There is no question about it, that if people just stopped buying games or movies digitally, companies would wake up after hearing on the news that Amazon is out of stock on physical copies of games and movies, that are now on backorder... Companies would have an absolute panic attack. This is their nightmare scenario, and companies would totally freak out. That is the wakeup call, that I want to see these companies witness. Companies simply do not print enough copies to meet that kind of demand, based on the fact that the vast majority of people have been conditioned to buy all digital content. I don't know why people keep going all digital, but just so you know, there are 2 variations of experiencing mediums when it comes to video games and movies. Digital and physical. When you buy a physical copy, you have something tangible, and is something no one can take away from you. Unless you sell it. But, guess what? Companies are trying to stop resale, since Sony and Microsoft look at eBay and do not want you to resell their games, or else they don't make a profit. What about online services shutting down, and delisting everything you purchased? In 10-15 years, you'll be having to hunt on eBay for games that are stupid expensive, and is why emulation is the only route for a lot of folks. No one should have to pay more money for a game, because a company like Nintendo shuts down the Switch eShop. Just this year, both the Nintendo 3DS and Xbox 360 shops shut down, many lost their entire library of games because they purchased digitally. How is this not concerning? You do not need to buy everything digitally, and I'll guarantee you, that once you switch back to physical, you'll appreciate having it in your hands that is still worth something. I am not pointing fingers at anyone here. I am also a PC gamer, which is all digital. I will always buy my games on Steam if a game is available on all platforms. Now, when it comes to consoles exclusives, then I always buy the physical copy. Every single time. I am talking to the majority who own a console like a PS5, Xbox, Nintendo Switch, who do not care about frame rates, and want their games to work right out of the box. It's unfortunate, but typically games run way better on day-one launches for console players, vs PC and it sucks. Doubling or tripling the frames with pretty graphics is nice, but I'll take a console game anyday over a rushed port, and frankly shocked how this is even happening to begin with. PC ports riddled with graphical glitches and crashes, keeps getting worse. If I can't figure out a solution within 30 minutes on PC, I always refund game on Steam and purchase the console version. And, you should too. By refunding a PC game immediately, you are telling companies to do better, and they will do better, if you start to refund games. Do not wait until you hit the 2.5 hours mark before refunding. This is becoming a serious issue, PC ports are not getting the love they deserve, and recommend every PC owner who is running a poorly optimised build of a game to refund it immediately. The moment you find out there is an issue all over, and it's all over CZcams... Don't even think. Refund it. Not only are digitally purchased video games a problem, but I am also asking begging for people who still enjoy movies, to buy the DVD Ultra HD Blu-ray movies. I still buy all my movies on DVD Ultra HD Blu-ray. No streaming service out there can come close to delivering a perfect picture, and are especially lacking when it comes to audio. I will die on this hill defending DVD Ultra HD Blu-ray movies. There are those who settle with good enough via streaming, and there are those who do not. If you love your movies on DVD and want a perfect picture, I am with you. If you only settle for the best audio, DVD is the only way. Many audiophiles know exactly what I'm talking about. So, what do we do to keep physical medium alive? Stop buying digitally and switch back to physical copies. It can't be more simple. I also request that all video games come with as many disks as required to hold every single bit of data. Remember when Doom released, and required 4 floppy disks? It's was an absolute success, and they were not complaining about at all that it took 4 floppy disks. They sold copies and it became a success story. This is not impossible guys. Sitting here upset, and agreeing that the death of physical medium sucks, and the next second you purchase something digitally, is not going to change anything. Sure, this will require a global effort, but with your help, while also spreading the word that physical copies are the way to go, this could take off and go viral. If it goes viral, I promise you that this could be settled within a month if social media catches a whiff of just how important physical medium is. Companies are testing the waters right now, and it does not look good. Again, this physical medium disaster does not have to happen. I'm not asking for you to even drive to pickup a game, although that's still y thing. But, purchasing a physical copy of a game or movie on Amazon, 100% counts, and you will receive them On Launch Day. So, unless you are dying to play a game, or watch a new movie released at the strike of midnight, just order the game on Amazon, and when you come home the next day from work, that game or movie will be right there waiting for you at your doorstep.
Hear hear.
But please use paragraphing!
CDPR is officially working on an update to Red Dead Redemption 2 for the current-gen consoles!
sauce?
@@fcukugimmeausername May Onnaise
You mean Rockstar?
@@iownu92 of course not - why would Rockstar update its own game like everyone else? 😀
path tracing ain't it yet chief. Neither is dlss, but its getting a lot better. Maybe by dlss 5 it'll be good enough to not cause any noticeable issues.
this shit aint ready for the market.
only took them 3 years lol
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Well, another game I'm gonna buy used or in a discount price. Not complete game in the disc = not gonna pay the full price.
What? You get the full game. It is related to how sony handles expansions. You can still put in the disc and immediately download everything. Your comment is nonsensical and honestly reads like a bot.
@@gavinderulo12 Not DLC = Not full game. Do whatever you want with my comment.
@@MsLoquendo3456just buy the digital version then. I don't understand what you are trying to say. I own the game twice and I have the full game and expansion in my possession. I can play both the game and expansion right now, you know why? Because they are released and ready to play. You are just wrong lol
@@gavinderulo12 he's not wrong some people want the complete game on the disc, like how it used to be, not having the dlc on the disc defeats the purpose of calling it the ultimate edition, yes it's fine to download the dlc if you want it, but then why even buy this version, so I can totally see that guys point.
@@gavinderulo12 Man you don't get anything, the DLC is a digital download, complete waste of money, you may as well buy a 10 dollar PS4 disc and have nothing for less money
the naivite about board rooms. Look at how petty Elon Musk is, and I have worked close together in several fortune 500 companies with board of directors and they can in some cases be very petty.
Sure buddy.
less talking more news please. thanks
Yeah….their talking about…the…..news, ya know? They are discussing the thing in the title I don’t understand the issue.
they spent half the video talkin about the ps release.......tf outa here@@fullauto86
Cyberpunk is not a finished product ,nowhere near what was shown before release such a shame but still fun playing the game.
I think they mean relative to the release version of the game rather than promises made before hand, I agree with you, but I don’t think they meant for the game we got, this is the functional version, or “complete” edition or whatever.
@@fullauto86 I did not watch the video when I made the comment,just stating my opinion on the game. I played the game over 300Hrs and I like the game but it is still a mess,lighting is not good,lots of bugs and new technology is not good. Damm the game on my 14900KF and RTX 4090 runs at 20FPS without all the DLSS2/3 ON.
Man, that NPC guy looks ROUGHHH!!! lol.. for a game engine that looks so GOOD, it sure does make NPC's look BAD!!😂 holy crap
I waited years for this release, then they made a complete edition incomplete.. some bad joke. Also all serious PC users have a bluray drive still to this day. It's either that or tape.
meh why bother? just wait for rtx 5090
CDPR has excelled in environment design, lighting, draw distance, character models, animations, etc.
But they have yet to excel in the actual department, that is GAMEplay in their GAMEs It's just 90% dialogues and the rest is 2001 generic shooting & hacking against generic exaclty the same throughout the game enemies.
Thank you. This applies to most of the industry now though
You're not wrong. Granted Cyberpunk, at least as of 2.0, does offer a wider range of mechanical functions and play styles and is one of the better-playing games of its ilk.
But like most modern games it still lacks the core element of high-functioning (i.e. good) gameplay: Interplay. Interplay is the source of depth, of emergent gameplay and player experssion. It is the "unit of measure" for gameplay, it's what makes games feel alive and dynamic and like your moment-to-moment gameplay experience is unique to you and your decisions and execution.
I don't know what game you played, honestly. Complaining about dialogues in an RPG is stupid. Dialogues are a core gameplay element of the genre.
You can face enemies with many different builds, or use stealth and avoid combat encounters. Most levels have different paths that you can unlock with skill checks if you have the skill level. It's an open world RPG with immersive sim elements, something that is unprecedented on this scale. Also, im
so you're saying that they are overrated something we already some of us know but the majority pretends they are great we know we know!
To me good writing, story and characters can easily carry bad gameplay. That being said though. Cyberpunk has one of the best feeling fps gameplay I've ever played. And the diversity in builds is insane. Just to name a few, you can go for a full on stealth hacker build, taking out entire buildings without every leaving you vehicle. You can literally become a speedster, moving at the speed of bullets and chopping up everything in your way. And wayyy more. And all the encounters are open ended so you can tackle them however you like.
"Ray reconstruction is the future!" Literally came out few months ago and only one game supports it.
they are saying it WILL be the future not currently obviously lol
tell me you don't understand software development without telling me you don't understand software development.
Alan wake 2 has it too
Nvidia pay cdpr alot to shove bloated tech into the game. Polishing a turd really engine wise, dlc is great tho
They said it will be the future, is listening not your strong suit? And it’s two games, not one. Alan Wake 2 also uses Ray Reconstruction
No matter how shiny you make it a turd will always be a turd.
Nah, this game is really great now actually.
Why is it that the negative comments always arrive first under the videos? Thankfully they get overshadowed by the positivity after a while.
Obviously haven't played recently 😂
Same crap game
At least one argument would have made that comment useful. I did play on a 5600/RX6500XT combo so basically between PS4 and PS4 pro capability so not in the better light AT ALL... BUT, it actually was not a bad game at all, i really enjoy it enough to start a 2nd play with a Sneaky Melee Cybershinoby and again lot of fun. The only think i'm confident to say it's that if that anyone who take it as a GTA like instead of a RPG it's a poor GTA like. But still a descent RPG yet far from W3 in his time.
Here is the issue CDProjectRed is Lazy and Sony is Lazy and I ain’t buying there Lazy Game. 🚨🚨 both company thinks there customers are dump.🤬🤬
Plays best on ps5!!!!!!!! Gaybox series x takes another MEGA L!!!!!!
Runs same on both consoles.
Imagine being this insecure.
Imagine thinking consoles are even in the debate for best experience lmao
It plays the same on both
@@halo2bounceguyi mean horizon forbidden west looks better than any pc game overall, only one of the 4 amazing games released on pc this year. Lol