I have a holster maker near me called Holsterco. They actually make Kydex sheets for that knife and if you asked they could put that retention on for you.
Thanks for an interesting video. I was amused when you talked about cutting your shirt if you had to deploy a neck knife. I'm guessing that any of us who reach the point of needing to deploy this kind of knife in self-defense are not going to be thinking about our shirts. In one sense, I understand your concern about retention. In another sense, I understand why Ka-Bar didn't add some kind of retention feature to the sheath. The use case for this knife is one where tenths of a second might be important. In that kind of scenario, I can see where people wouldn't want to be grasping for a release button. I suspect that the original idea was this knife would be largely concealed and maybe not even noticed by an attacker. Police officers have all kinds of objects on their belts. An attacker who was touching the belt would find plenty of objects that would have a similar feel. An attacker might not even know right away that he (or she) had a hand on the knife handle. Now that the knife is so well known and readily available, more people would recognize the feel of this knife and might draw it from the officer in a fight.
When I was serving in the Navy during Desert Storm I met up with some Australian special forces. Long story short they talked alot about Hardcore Hardware in Australia. They made some knives like that. They have a sister company now that took over but if you look them up wow some of those knives. Still in touch with those crazy guys. Lol.
Well, Just one of 10.000 knife Manufakturers 🙄. HcH has Same Problem, it allows No good Hammer grip Imagine the opponent is over you on the ground, and your only Option is stabbing to the ribs, liver and the whole Side of the Body. Which knife were best to hold for this? For a Natural wrist angle its Just the Hammer grip. So forget those Gimmick Pistol grip stuff😉 Pistol grip is OK If you can hold your opponent in Front of you and Stab and Stab and Stab... But in a chaotic Close range Situation youre fucked. If you Just can move youre lower arm you need a grip which allows you every Kind of grip. With a Hammer grip you Always have 2 possibilities, with Pistol Just 1.
The only reason I don’t carry a fixed blade is that it’s illegal to carry one concealed where I live and no way do I want to carry one openly. I’d love to either have this ka-bar or a clench pick. My wife has the esee Izula as a neck knife for when we go camping and it’s a pretty nice option too.
Thank you for this review. I just purchased one on Amazon. I have been looking for such a knife to use if a subject is attempting a gun take away. He/she should back off if slashed and stabbed.
Well. Went out and bought the TDI and the Snarl. The Snarl is way cool and discreet. Still waiting in the TDI to be delivered.. thanks for. The video!!
The SNARL is a underrated Neck. It offers different grip Options and has a lower Holding angle Like Perrins Griffe, which is one of the best "Last ditch" knifes. CRKT Owlet CRKT Minimalist SOG SNARL Fred Perrin Griffe There are some more usable necks but these are my faves But once again, If you need a self defense EDC than a Folder will forever be the best choice. Something Like CRKT M16 ZLEK or M21 large. Even the fact those thing Looks scarry, will make your opponent think twice If He attacks you. If you hold those Neck you make him Just Smile.
Sorry to say but you've misterpreted the POU for the TDI. The aim was not "he's too close for guns, I'm switching to knife," but "he's already got hands on my gun and I want him off it before he shoot me with it." The TDI is a last-ditch gun retention tool, period. I agree with your statements on the ergos of the TDI LEK (vs. the LDK, which is an Onion field-type hideout--see Greg Ellifritz's blog on this as he's the one who designed it). I also agree about the lousy factory sheath, but most factory sheaths are lousy. Good Kydex will fix a lot of the issues you cite, including one you didn't: the factory sheath only works at a 90 degree angle, which is sub-par for a belt sheath, but ideal for a pocket sheath, assuming the lining is narrow enough to keep the handle upright.
whybother757 fair. But if someone is close enough to grab my gun they're also close enough to grab the knife. I've heard that it's happened before that this knife was used against an officer. Until I get an active retention sheath I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing it.
Imagine the opponent is over you on the ground, and your only Option is stabbing to the ribs, liver and the whole Side of the Body. Which knife were best to hold for this? For a Natural wrist angle its Just the Hammer grip. So forget those Gimmick Pistol grip stuff😉 Pistol grip is OK If you can hold your opponent in Front of you and Stab and Stab and Stab... But in a chaotic Close range Situation youre fucked. If you Just can move youre lower arm you need a grip which allows you every Kind of grip. With a Hammer grip you Always have 2 possibilities, with Pistol Just 1.
That Kabar is a wicked looking tool!
I have a holster maker near me called Holsterco. They actually make Kydex sheets for that knife and if you asked they could put that retention on for you.
Thanks for an interesting video.
I was amused when you talked about cutting your shirt if you had to deploy a neck knife. I'm guessing that any of us who reach the point of needing to deploy this kind of knife in self-defense are not going to be thinking about our shirts.
In one sense, I understand your concern about retention. In another sense, I understand why Ka-Bar didn't add some kind of retention feature to the sheath. The use case for this knife is one where tenths of a second might be important. In that kind of scenario, I can see where people wouldn't want to be grasping for a release button.
I suspect that the original idea was this knife would be largely concealed and maybe not even noticed by an attacker. Police officers have all kinds of objects on their belts. An attacker who was touching the belt would find plenty of objects that would have a similar feel. An attacker might not even know right away that he (or she) had a hand on the knife handle. Now that the knife is so well known and readily available, more people would recognize the feel of this knife and might draw it from the officer in a fight.
Knife in the coin pocket is something I had not thought of. Good idea!
When I was serving in the Navy during Desert Storm I met up with some Australian special forces. Long story short they talked alot about Hardcore Hardware in Australia. They made some knives like that. They have a sister company now that took over but if you look them up wow some of those knives. Still in touch with those crazy guys. Lol.
Well, Just one of 10.000 knife Manufakturers 🙄. HcH has Same Problem, it allows No good Hammer grip
Imagine the opponent is over you on the ground, and your only Option is stabbing to the ribs, liver and the whole Side of the Body. Which knife were best to hold for this? For a Natural wrist angle its Just the Hammer grip.
So forget those Gimmick Pistol grip stuff😉
Pistol grip is OK If you can hold your opponent in Front of you and Stab and Stab and Stab... But in a chaotic Close range Situation youre fucked. If you Just can move youre lower arm you need a grip which allows you every Kind of grip. With a Hammer grip you Always have 2 possibilities, with Pistol Just 1.
The only reason I don’t carry a fixed blade is that it’s illegal to carry one concealed where I live and no way do I want to carry one openly. I’d love to either have this ka-bar or a clench pick. My wife has the esee Izula as a neck knife for when we go camping and it’s a pretty nice option too.
Illegal where I live too but i believe as long as you keep the clip exposed, you’re good
Kabar make Great knives
I really don't know how I feel about neck knives
Thank you for this review. I just purchased one on Amazon. I have been looking for such a knife to use if a subject is attempting a gun take away. He/she should back off if slashed and stabbed.
Well. Went out and bought the TDI and the Snarl. The Snarl is way cool and discreet. Still waiting in the TDI to be delivered.. thanks for. The video!!
Nice Karl!
I choose a simple smith a wesson folding knife
The SNARL is a underrated Neck. It offers different grip Options and has a lower Holding angle Like Perrins Griffe, which is one of the best "Last ditch" knifes.
CRKT Owlet
CRKT Minimalist
SOG SNARL
Fred Perrin Griffe
There are some more usable necks but these are my faves
But once again, If you need a self defense EDC than a Folder will forever be the best choice. Something Like CRKT M16 ZLEK or M21 large. Even the fact those thing Looks scarry, will make your opponent think twice If He attacks you.
If you hold those Neck you make him Just Smile.
Buy a slim ulticlip, screw it on a custom sheath I literally carry my TDI almost everywhere and I wear a lot of gym shorts lol
Wish i lived in a state that allows push daggers
Thanks for taking the time to do these videos.
Mount the TDI to your belt with a horizontal belt clip That will give you your concealment.
I will give the info that u want.
Buy the new KA-BAR TDI INVESTIGATOR Knive And buy a custom sheath from the T5 Custom Kydex sheath for this knife.
Hender sell a locking sheath for the TDI
I like Leatherman, fast and useful.
Personally I like longer blades, ergos are nice though
Nice
Great information thanks for sharing!!
Cool concept, shame we cant concealed carry fixed blades in my state
You can take off the scales.
I’m here for the ESEE 4
I see the practicality...but not for me. Good review though
You forgott Tops Cockpit Commander and the colonel
Sorry to say but you've misterpreted the POU for the TDI. The aim was not "he's too close for guns, I'm switching to knife," but "he's already got hands on my gun and I want him off it before he shoot me with it." The TDI is a last-ditch gun retention tool, period. I agree with your statements on the ergos of the TDI LEK (vs. the LDK, which is an Onion field-type hideout--see Greg Ellifritz's blog on this as he's the one who designed it).
I also agree about the lousy factory sheath, but most factory sheaths are lousy. Good Kydex will fix a lot of the issues you cite, including one you didn't: the factory sheath only works at a 90 degree angle, which is sub-par for a belt sheath, but ideal for a pocket sheath, assuming the lining is narrow enough to keep the handle upright.
whybother757 fair. But if someone is close enough to grab my gun they're also close enough to grab the knife. I've heard that it's happened before that this knife was used against an officer. Until I get an active retention sheath I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing it.
I'd say check out the Tdi Hellfire. Believe it has a lock.
Great suggestions for hiding spots!
Cool
you should do a video large TDI vs the large Tops Devils Elbow.
Will do
Edc overload
Love your videos brother
excellent review. Thanks
Imagine the opponent is over you on the ground, and your only Option is stabbing to the ribs, liver and the whole Side of the Body. Which knife were best to hold for this? For a Natural wrist angle its Just the Hammer grip.
So forget those Gimmick Pistol grip stuff😉
Pistol grip is OK If you can hold your opponent in Front of you and Stab and Stab and Stab... But in a chaotic Close range Situation youre fucked. If you Just can move youre lower arm you need a grip which allows you every Kind of grip. With a Hammer grip you Always have 2 possibilities, with Pistol Just 1.
Really want the 500 giveaway knife!!!!!!
cool videob
Love a good neck knife i wear the tops msk 2.5
Really,, I got one,, love it,, but it's a boat anchor of a neck knife. Works as a boy scout carry for me. Had to customize a belt clip for it
Interesting design
That box cutter is and accident waiting to happen!! 😬
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Hey
Not a fan of these little knives. Cheers, Jerbs.
Pick me, pick me. :)
Nice