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Brinkley Is OFF the List! 10 More Honest RV Tours
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- We're back at the Orlando RV Show taking a look at some Brinkley RVs, some more motorhomes, and taking a critical look at some odd design and layout choices on some of these floorplans. Join us!
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0:30 Thor Chateau 31WV
2:41 Thor Resonate 29G
4:36 Erin's Silent Class B Review
5:57 Brinkley Model Z 3610
8:57 Brinkley Model Z 3110
12:22 Brinkley Model Z 295 AIR
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Thank you everyone for all of the comments and discussion! Since so many of you have shared that Brinkley does in fact have "options" for CPAP users, I'm just going to address them in this pinned comment rather than keep responding to new comments about this topic. Several people, including Brinkley, have said two things:
1. If you get the Queen bed you get nightstands
2. They make an optional CPAP shelf that's wider
I have issues with both:
1. I want a King
2 a. Even with a wider shelf, there's still no outlet up there above the bed and having wires dangling down from over my head to around the edge of the slide sounds like a recipe for disaster. CPAP's aren't USB-powered, they use 3-prong plugs and a power converter brick like most laptops do.
2 b. I don't want my CPAP sitting above my head either. There's a hose that runs down to the mask portion I wear on my face and the last thing I want is a bunch of that hose getting tangled up in my pillow or wrapped around my neck, etc.
2 c. My CPAP is also full of water, so I definitely don't want that getting tugged and falling down on me at night. I also have to refill it nightly, so it needs to be easily accessible.
Having to wear a CPAP at night isn't a luxury, it's not a nice-to-have item, it's not something that we can just work around, it's a medical device that _literally_ keeps me alive at night. It's important to me that it is considered and has a suitable place next to my bed. My current RV has a king bed in a slide barely (if at all) wider than the one in this Brinkley and it has nightstands large enough for my CPAP machine as well as outlets and USB ports on both sides of the bed. It's not an impossible ask and there are real, pre-existing solutions to this issue.
The last thing we *all* want to see is a brand new company falling into the same traps and templates that the other RV companies that have been around for decades are in. All RVers see new companies (notably Alliance a few years ago, now Brinkley) as an opportunity for new ideas, new floorplans, new features, new creature comforts, new everything. It is disappointing when we see a new company hit the scene with the same layouts and the same compromises in the same places. New is good, new is needed, new is _possible_ .
As for me owning a 3610 who doesn’t use a cpap. The 3610 is absolutely perfect for our family of 4 and 2 dogs. I guess I’m watching your one sided biased reviews based on your life style. Like stated our 3610 is perfect for us and we full time, actually haven’t found anything I would change about ours. Similar layouts as others but quality, fit and finish are far superior than the others
Thanks for taking the time to give your feedback and touring the Z3610. Good news, with the optional queen bed, you get nightstands. There are also CPAP extension shelves available. The Z3110 now includes a second step/handle on the top bunk for early feedback. The Z295 AIR's TV is on a large articulating bracket. Feedback is very important to our process of continuous product improvement. We're looking forward to your next Brinkley RV review.
Hey Brinkley team! Thanks for watching and commenting! We love when companies take our criticism as constructive - we just want to help everyone make RVs better and you guys are definitely working in that direction more than most other manufacturers at the moment.
Can we change the settings in the Brinkley G390??
We bought the Brinkley Z3100 with the queen bed option. We love this unit! Very well built and very comfortable on rainy days. You should stop and look at the queen option. You would put it back on your to get list.
You need to focus on how it's constructed first, then layout. You can have the most perfect layout in the world however if it falls apart it doesn't matter how great the layout is. I inspect RVs for a living and IMHO a majority of potential buyer's are looking at the wrong things !
Good luck !
The lady's weight loss is transformative! Please don't count me as shallow, but I went through a significant, spontaneous weight loss myself. Thus, I know whereof I speak. I am only an occasional viewer, so I am not familiar with her back story, and no offense is intended. But, she looks great! I hope there was no medical condition involved (as I went through). Otherwise, your hubby should be proud, and inspired. Great video of the smaller trade show which was right in my wheelhouse. Keep up the great work. Thanks to both for a job well done.
I am with you about the CPAP access in ALL RV's. One of the first things I look for is CPAP access, then it is if the bathroom and fridge are accessible with the slide in. I like to go look whenever we have an opportunity.
My sister in law has the apex. She actually takes her 5 boys, husband and a dog across country in that. They put a bed under the bunk by removing the storage and the 2 youngest sleep on the dining room table/bed. I couldn’t do it. Way too small.
We bought a Forest River Flagstaff in 2021. There are only 2 of us. But one thing that sold us was there is a nightstand on one side of the bed and a dresser on the other side. Plus the bed is centered in the room so for those midnight bathroom runs I don't have scoot to the foot of the bed!!
Several users have added a nice shelf under the lip of the bed (lots of room for one on a king) for a CPAP on the Brinkley's. They should always be at or below head level anyway and given the power plug right there it makes a lot of sense. Have seen a few that have added a strap to hold it in place for travel as well.
Also, the bathroom pocket doors do lock open (and lock closed) you have to just push down on the handle lock. Works very well - locks closed and open. Much better than our previous GD's where locked open on travel with a nap lock across it and no lock when shut and in use.
I choose Brinkley for the quality. I bought the Z3400 with a back patio and not a toy hauler
Is that the one with the outside kitchen/bar thing that opens up when you drop the patio? That's a cool layout!
Ya, sitting back there facing the water made it all worth wild. No regrets. And other than a few minor trim problems, nothing of note has gone wrong. Knock on wood. And my Cpap sits on the small wooden drawer stand next to my bed. The plug is on the side of the bed near the floor on that side, Kinda like I have in my home.
@@Five2Go
Re: the Brinkley 5th wheel
I always question why they don't raise the windows in the wall on each side of the bed.
And add 6 inches to the width for a side table, dang it.
How about making the slide on the dresser side (of an E/W bedroom and then put side tables at the wall on each side?!
The guy who didn't like the layout probably was looking for the front living. Not everyone likes every layout.
Brinkley has shelf extenders for those smaller shelves above the bed. It would hold your machine.
Thank you for pointing that out. Also, with the optional queen bed, you get nightstands.
My wife and I do the same as the “nope” guy. If it’s a rear living/kitchen I won’t even look. I know they make 10 bajillion of them, but it’s just not to my taste. I like the ones with separation of the rooms, like a front living, step down to kitchen/dining, and then bedroom. Or something similar. I’m with y’all on the tiny shelves- we always laugh about rv exec’s/designers who apparently don’t use phones or tablets. I wish there was a Class C like the first one that wasn’t Thor- that was a great layout!
There is an additional attachment for your cpad machine, ask Brinkley. Also you have the option to have a queen bed that comes with 5 inches side tables and storage, or you can get a z2900 that the bed comes with night stands, there are options.
I really like that little single axle with the hidden office. I think all TVs are stupid so the location of it makes no difference to me. And the ability to work in a designated space separate that can be closed up is amazing
We recently looked at the Brinkley Z3610 and really liked it but had the same concerns with the king mattress in the bedroom and no bed-side storage. The sales person told us you can get a queen mattress that comes with nightstands, and the Brinkley website confirms this. That said, I've never see it in person nor pictures and I think that is a missed opportunity for Brinkley not to show models with some of the options installed. Thanks for the video!
With as large as these things are, they could 100% have a King mattress AND proper nightstands. A lot of these companies make some compromises in the wrong places...
@@Five2Go no argument there!
Oh man all you have to do is look and see the quality of detail they put in the Brinkley !!
As we said in the video Brinkley definitely makes a nice RV. That doesn't give them a pass from criticism for odd decisions though 😉
Thank you for these kind words.
We are getting the Brinkley Z3100 next year! My wife likes it a lot and she'll put her CPAP on the floor or in the closet on top of a small table
How exciting. On the Z3100 with the optional queen bed, you get nightstands. There are also CPAP extension shelves available.
@@BrinkleyRV thanks for that idea! We'll go with the king and CPAP extension shelves.
Thank you for the tours of these rvs. Not so sure of the Brinkleys. I like some of the others you showed better. Thank you for showing these Rvs. See you both soon! Have a great night and great weekend.
Check out the Brinkley Z2900 or Z3100, they have lots of bedside table room.
I found a place for your cpap...in the bunk room. Nice big shelf. Brinkley is quality!!
Brinkley makes a CP shelf to replace the regular shelf in the bedroom.
It would be great if you two could tour something from Outdoors RV. They are few and far between in the East.
ORV? I _think_ they've been to the Tampa show before but I'm not positive. It looks like their closest dealership is in Houston though, so not close at all. Bummer!
You can get the Z3100 with a queen bed with side tables.
We had to build our own phone shelves and I put a 3M Command hook above mine for bedside use. I agree that they seem to just ignore bedside conveniences in a LOT of RVs
Great video! More nightstands, but please leave the king beds!
Have you looked at the Forest River-> Cherokee Wolf Pup-> Wolf Den 16 EV? If you are just looking for a trip trailer (verses a live in) it might be a good fit and definitely towable by a jeep. It has bunks. Only suggestion I have is do more short tours but include a peek at the plumbing (the actual connections under the sinks etc.)
The 5th wheel with the layout that the gentleman said “Nope” about…totally with him. The reason I’m a nope has everything to do with what you said about this being the living space layout of 80% of 5th wheels…so sick and tired of this layout…give me something new, something original…this one’s been done to death.
There was one floorplan in our previous video that had a slightly different take on the fifth wheel living room, the one with the TV where the dinette is in this layout. We're with you on wanting some new stuff to see!
I really don’t understand why they put the round sinks in the campers? They seem so worthless. Also the smaller sinks with no depth to them. Too hard to wash dishes in!
Shallow sink + faucet 3 inches from the bowl = perfection 😂 It would cost them only a few more dollars (on something that's 20k+ already) to put a better bowl and proper faucet in these things. It's nuts where they cut corners.
No option for hubby's cpap..
Then is a no 🚫 go
I need a cooks kitchen.outlets counters,cabinets.
Lack of side stands is one of the reasons I've never really cared for the East/West bed slideout. The North/South designs still manage to keep the side stands.
With the optional queen bed, you get nightstands in the East/West bedrooms. There are also CPAP extension shelves available.
I don't like the couches in the rear either. Love the kitchen at the front or back. They have more room for cooking.
Thanks for the tours and insights!
In response to the Brinkley Layout. We have a a Jayco Eagle 31mb - we prefer our living room setup- The door side slide is a 4 seater theatre couch and the rear is a big dinette. We prefer the larger couch directly facing the TV and the booth dinette in the back is great when you have a good view.
We wish there were more of the "standard" rear living layouts with the booth dinette in the rear.
That is very interesting. I just pulled up that floorplan and I've never seen that rear booth before even though we've been in tons of Jaycos. I kinda dig that.
If you put the CPAP in the very top right hand corner of your bed, there’s no way your head would run into it….😀
Look at the bedroom in the solitude s class 2930 rl - we LOVE the bedroom- unfortunately they are no longer making this model- north south bed with end tables on both sides!
The second Brinkley had the NS bed and much better side tables. I feel like the perfect RV layout is always "the front of this RV", "the middle of this RV", and "the rear of this RV" 😂
The Brinkleys are to tight and cramped feeling inside. We love the quality, and looked at all of them. To us, they just don’t have much space inside.
Thanks for sharing! I don't know if I've ever heard someone single out Brinkley for being small/tight - do you feel like they're more cramped feeling than other brands with similar layouts?
Bill and Ron Fenech started both Grand Design and Brinkley. They were both introducing the “new and cool”. Let’s see how long before it’s sold out to Thor or Winnebago. 🤷♀️
I see you commented this 12 days ago. Funny what came out today.
@@Lisa-gd7nn what did I miss? What came out today?
I like how much storage is in some of these, but with more storage comes more opportunity to be overweight :)
100%! I should've checked the stickers on the ones with cabinets and drawers all over the place :)
I just recently purchased a alliance 292 DELTA👍🏻👍🏻
Oooh, we like Alliance. I think they're out current favorite towable brand overall
opinions are ALL subjective, that being said i do believe Brinkley are built better than most you looked at. The only one in the same league as our RiverStone which we had. Simple fact is as others have stated below, if you want something to fit your whole list of requirements with no compromise, then your option for a towable may be reduced to a complete custom like New Horizon or Luxe. Great working reviewing and wish you well in your search.
Interesting at 7:50. My local place reports the MSRP for this is $112,650 that sheet shows $121,957 - sure looks like it has all the same stuff. What is interesting is that the sales guy was like, make us an offer, please.... I did check out the plumbing and the fittings were all good to go, this was an issue with the older models.
I actually do not like any of the Brinkley in general. Even the ones with the adjustable sofa.
I actually like the last $15k trailer. Towable. Cheap. Rooms for the kids. It might be a great option until you figure out what you really want. Then resale it. It’s in the price range people can afford for a used travel trailer.
I bought our rig because it had a nite stand for each side
They're important! What model did you get?
@@Five2Go we got a forest river impression
👍❤Great seeing the RVs
We bought a 28A from Cruise America after you did your tour.
That's awesome! How are you liking it??
@@Five2Go we’ve enjoyed it. We gone cross country twice. We are moving up to an Alfa, for the comfort and diesel and more opportunities for boon docking. But it was a great way to find out if we wanted to travel by RV.
I guess this is simply your own view. I have no issue with Brinkley. Love it
I really like Brinkley but I’m not a fan of their use of the televator. It doesn’t swivel to allow viewing from the kitchen. And although I’m not a CPAP user, I want nightstands or at least a decent sized shelf below the window. Then the models with bed slides not only have the shelf but they use curtains instead of blinds. Come on Brinkley. Take the different all the way. Really be different.
You might have less room next to the bed with the king bed option but the quality of the entire RV is far superior. You get what you pay for!!
That’s our whole point - we love the quality of what Brinkley is making but we’re bummed that they’re not innovating much and just falling into the same traps as the other manufacturers in many ways. They’re starting fresh but with some stale ideas.
You are looking at the King option. There is a queen option with shelves on each side.
But they have plenty of room for both the king _and_ nightstands. These RVs are huge.
@@Five2Go I disagree, what would you give up for nightstands without extending the length - which would also mean a longer slide (more weight)? I personally prefer more living room and kitchen space. Also, the shelves over the bed have an optional add-on for CPAP. Did you know the dresser turns into a desk?
@@billosborn9600 Thank you. You are correct. It's about a foot longer to squeeze nightstands in with a king bed and CPAP extension shelves are available.
People are starting to catch onto the shallow veneer hiding Brinkley's flaws and rote plagiarism. A healthy dose of skepticism would benefit potential customers. The lock step, knee jerk love by vloggers has no basis in reality. Did you ever bring a new girl/boyfriend home to meet the 'rents? Sometimes, immediate rejection by them turned out to be accurate a few weeks or months later on. It's good that you're giving Brinkley the same scrutiny your parents gave your latest high school infatuation.
If anything, the higher prices and extra focus on features and build quality makes us more likely to criticize what we're seeing. If I walk into a million-dollar motorhome and they made it so the shower door doesn't open all the way because it hits the toilet, you can be sure I'm going to call that out. On the other end of the spectrum, in those cheaper little single-axles we expect cheaper materials and corner cutting so if the sink is awful it's more of a "that's not hard to replace if it's important to you" vs. "they shouldn't have done this at this price point".
The queen size bed has night stands.
I agree with the cpap in the brinkley
Just remove the small shelf and put a larger shelf in its place that fits your cpap. Brinkley looked lovely.
We offer CPAP extension shelves for these models, plus the optional queen bed includes nightstands.
@@BrinkleyRVThat’s definitely good to know 👍
I think a Bus Conversion or a tractor trailer conversion would be good for you guys
Definitely not standard RV layouts
I think it’s gonna be difficult going from that big class A to a less than 30 ft class C!!! Good luck with picking a new rig!!!
Who knows! We went from a 2600sqft house to a 280sqft travel trailer 7 years ago 😂
@@Five2GoThe only issue is your passengers got bigger.
@@NJ-Cathieso true!!😂
@@Five2Go You are better people than I!!! I love my husband, kids, and dogs, but I need my space!!! We have a 32' Class A, and after a few days with all those people, I'm ready to go home and send them back to their rooms!!!! (16 and 18 year olds- you'll get what I mean!)
Why are selling your rv that seems perfect for your family?
I haven't watched in awhile, wow Erin you have dropped a lot of weight
Yep! 80 pounds! ❤
He wanted a rear kitchen.
We looked at Brinkley hard, while at the tampa show and interviewed Brandon the Brinkley guy. They are pretty, but not practical. I missed somewhere why are you guys looking at a fifth wheel, i know you are selling your rig, but why the big change. We switched from our solitude 35 feet to a reflection 33 feet last month, we have to loose a lot of weight. Larry
Breaking news Resmed sells usb cpap adapters. Shocking I know. I’m not saying that this review seems biased against Brinkley, wait actually I am saying that. Go buy a scam design and get yourself some free frame failure included with that nightstand. You can see that bias when they talk about the east to west how they like it and all of a sudden now they’re OK with the CPAP on the floor come on man. Lol😂 but let’s let a $30 CPAP extension shelf Stop you from buying quality RV.
I’m not biased against Brinkley, I just don’t believe they should get a pass for being the new guys that are supposedly working with fulltimers for design and layout ideas. I’m just not seeing the innovation that others are claiming. When we do these show videos we aren’t digging into build quality much beyond what we can see and touch, it’s more about floorplans. Drop-down knife drawers are cute and all, but they have had a chance to do new and truly interesting things but just haven’t really delivered. Also, just as another thing to keep in mind when you’re watching review videos: if someone can’t find any faults with an RV, no matter the brand or cost, they’re either lying to you or are working with that company.
Brinkley is off the list because of a little shelf above a window. Makes sense to take it off the list and sacrifice quality because of a shelf that will create a larger bed, closet and more storage.
Check out the pinned comment on this video for some more context. The issue isn’t as simple as “just a little shelf” - there are some very real concerns with this style of bedroom that Brinkley and others are selling.
We all have different needs and likes. For me , WiFi and chargers NEVER belong near where sleeping. The body needs to balance and WiFi is HARMFU! to our electromagnetic biology. I understand that people like their flashy tech, BUT do the deep dive and research and you will find what I say to be true. Also nix the microwave oven. Just truth and health
Stop looking at thor based units. Go talk to New Horizons RV, and or Luxe.
We look at everything, not just the high end expensive stuff
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