The Worlds First Single Slot Low Profile ARC A380 GPU! Small Foot Print Power
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In this video we put together the worlds First Single Slot Low Profile ARC A380 Graphics Card! This is perfect for small form factor gaming PC builds and fits right into the Minisforum MS01 mini PC! With 6GB of vRam the ARC A380 is an awesome option for low Cost 1080P Gaming on a budget.
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Refreshing to see a video about actual SFF components within the avalanche of content about handhelds every once in a while.
The "I'll do it myself" moment.
Sparkle needs to pay you for this one.
he has affiliate links already
if intel is not paying, is sparkle, no other reason to push these product presentation videos for this intel crap so often
If you're thinking about doing this, read this first.
I have an ultra SFF PC that can only fit a short, single-slot low-profile GPU. I initially installed an RX 6400, but I decided to try the A310 and A380 GPUs for their extra display port (I’m running an i5-12400F, which has no iGPU) and AV1 capabilities. I performed the cooler swap without issues.
However, the A310 cooler fan is extremely loud. You'll need to create custom fan presets for each game, balancing between preventing overheating and avoiding deafening noise. My RX 6400 performs marginally better and is silent, so I ended up returning both the A310 and A380.
If you don't mind tinkering with fan curves for every game, this could be a viable option. However, be aware of how loud it is-ETA uses a noise gate in their video to reduce the sound, but you can still hear it if you listen carefully. It's very loud.
The best use case for these cards might be in an SFF server that you can place in the basement or attic.
This thing is like the homelabber's dream card. Come on Sparkle, make it happen.
Perfect for a SFF Proxmox gaming server. I'm in the process of putting an Arc A380 and an RTX 3050 in a SFF case to support two Windows gaming VMs. I have another A380 on order as well.
If you're not limited to half height slot technically matrox sell a380 luma, but it's pretty expensive
All they need to do is like what this guy did.
Stop the production of the fat heatsink and produce more like whats on the a310 card to put it in the A380.
@wayland7150 My Proxmox VE (8.1) crashes when I try to pass through my A380. I take it you've had better luck?
@@Vhalikuporamee447 I have had problems passing through GPUs but great success with an ASRock B550M fitted with low profile RTX 3050 and A380 cards feeding Windows 10 VMs. I suggest you keep slugging away at this because it's possible and was not difficulty.
I have to admit, the sparkle card designs are very good looking. Sparkle should get into making motherboards with the same aesthetic. Because yes please lmao.
Sparkle is FSP. They are primarily a power supply company, making power supplies for over 30 years. I don't think they've ever made any motherboards, but I bet they would probably do a really good job at them.
I was expecting some fire extinguishers to be used here, but the temps are actually decent for what cooler the a380 mod now has. great work!
Sparkle, please, make this official. That little chip with just a 50W TDP is perfectly fine in a single slot like this.
Great video! Nice to see modifications on this channel, I've been looking to add a card to my SFF build
Anyone that is testing Helldivers should NOT do solos on Trivial Difficulty. This game gets hammered by the CPU as you play with others and higher difficulties. You should at the very least test it on HARD and in a squad. The more enemies and effects go on with higher difficulties. Someone that makes this build to play Helldivers 2 will be caught off guard to why they are getting much lower performance when they use your video as a reference.
Same when he showed world of warcraft.
Doesn't the video use a 13900H?
yes but that is also a laptop cpu which is nowhere near a 7800x3d or a 14900k. I have a 5900X and when playing on level 4 difficulty or lower I can easily get 70-90 fps. But on level 5 or higher the frame rate tanks to mid 40s when crap hits the fan. Hopefully the devs can work on this more, but the game can get very cpu limited. Even with a 7800x3d.@@no-barknoonan1335
You don’t come to this channel for performance benchmarks. This is an unboxing and product placement channel.
Ok buddy
I wonder if Sparkle would consider making such a version of the A380 from the factory. Doesn't look too complicated to realise in the manufacturing process.
Very nice video ❤🎉👍 and what a ultra clean build
I would love to see a video with all possible variants of a GPU in that Minisforum MS-01.
Makes sense 👍 swapping A380 and A310 coolers.
Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
I've once modified a GTX 1050Ti (ITX size, dual slot) with an ultra low profile CPU cooler (so it came down to a little less than 1 slot) to squeeze it inside of an ATX PSU case build. Worked just as well as the stock cooler, but that's not for the faint of heart, since you need to manage die pressure yourself and you have to drill and tap your own screw holes into the cooler.
I imagine something similar could be done for this GPU. Would allow for some really small form facto builds.
Wow. What a little guy
This is cool, I have always thought about doing a mod like this but never got around to it
That was clever! Where did you get the idea from? Or did you test the cooler out of curiosity?
Ah the 'ol cooler swap. It's always fun to check the cooling contacts and bolt points. I have done this with LP gtx cards, quadros, and I have seen people swap enterprise passive heatsinks out for consumer dual fan units. If it works, it works.
Legend level.
Gotta give Zach's Tech Turf a shout out for giving this video a mention on one of his shorts.
I still have reservations about the thermal cooling on those cards, as they're designed to dump all their heat inside the case instead of exhausting it through the bracket like larger cards do.
I have a double width low profile A380 which makes a bit of heat but works fine in a SFF case.
Didn't he say its a blower cooler?
Orange pi neo trailer just dropped and it a device you really need to look into even for the price point
This is pretty awesome. Those GPU temps are really good, the question is at what noise level? I'd really like to give this a try in an Optiplex 7090 micro I just got... if I can get Re-bar enabled.
Um, I don't think you mean the micro.
@@zgillet Yes, I do... the tiny 1.16L systems. The 80 series and 90 series had an option to have a PCIe Gen3x8 slot on the motherboard rather than having a SATA port. It wasn't a very popular option, and you won't find a lot of the them for sale. Typically they would come installed with an RX 640 or a Quadro P620. The next generation eliminated the option... which is unfortunate, because I think it's pretty cool. Though I'm thinking it might only be able to support A310, rather than a A380.
@ETAPRIME Thanks for that Idea. Do you have any details on the additional heatsink (Size / Link to Buy) to share with us?
The temperatures are really amazing - like.. i won't lie, i was thinking it will reach like 85-90 outside of syntetic stress-test
you should take a look at the 4060 Low profile!
Would like to see you test the double slot A380 in your Dell Precision 3240 to include thermals
I would like to see a return to the slim cards we had in the 2000s such as the GeForce 6/7 series and Radeon X800/X1800 series.
Back from school , and look a beatifull video pop out from eta ❤
Ya I know how loud the A310 is, I wanted the powerful AV1 encoder and a sound card in my Dell 7060. Also where did you get that heatsink?
With Intel releasing drivers allowing you to carve up their GPUs as vGPUs on virtualization, this is a practical no-brainer for homelabs. The MS01 was already an absolute beast, now you can carve up a GPU for things like Plex...
Have they done so yet?
I know that they allow SR-IOV on their Flex series, but is it finally enabled for everyday Arc cards?
I might have to give it a shot.
Where did the excess heat of this card (with the A310 Cooler) go? Or is it just circulating inside the case? Wouldn't it be better to perforate the slot bracket to push the heated air directly out of the case, like with most blower style graphic cards?
Does this card work together with the built-in igpu in conjunction or is it switchable?
Would we be able to fit a 2-slot LP card into the MS-01 if we chose not to close the top, or is there something else physically stopping us from doing so? Thinking about the LP 4060 from Gigabyte, although might need to change/cut the mounting bracket there (and lose a DP port).
Nice 👍
A380 + A310 cooler, great!
I would like to see how the A380 performs in an emulation build. Especially considering Intel arc doesn't have native support or great performance for anything older than DirectX 12. Could the RX 6400 be better in that case?
I would also like to see how it does with emulation
I can only say my RX6400 has no drawbacks to emulation, targeting reasonable graphics, and some old stuff at 4K. CPU is the biggest limit but not too severe on an i5-8500. Will grab an i5-11500 or something with avx512 one day.
wouldn't shock me if they're pretty similar given most emulators have support for modern APIs like vulkan
I've got one under Proxmox. It's the same as native. It's vital that Resizable BAR is switched on in the bios for this card. It's more like double performance with it on. I intend to run two of them for two gamers in one PC build in a SFF case. I reckon I will succeed.
I run an A770 and most of the older console emulators are perfectly fine, but things like Switch emulation or 3DS are completely off the table. The dev time has not been put into intel GPUs at all on their end.
Question: when you get a graphics card do you leave the intergraded gpu on or turn it off?
Fyi for anyone who wants to get it - Its pice 4.0 x8 not 5.0
these tiny toy gpus are achieving the performance of my 1660 super, i guess it's finally time to upgrade :( it's been some good years
That GPU will still fetch good money from people who have not yet discovered the A380.
Definitely sell your 1660 super to recoup some of the cost.
The A380 is superior. But it does have the achiles heal of not really working on Desktops that lack resizable bar. Which is why 1660's are still commanding a decent price on E Bay.
Since an standard budget build strategy is it buy an 50 dollar used Dell business desktop, use an 20 dollar adapter so you can used an normal PSU with the mortherboard, pair it with a 60 dollar 500 watt power supply, and then buy an 1660 super for 120 dollars used.
Giving you an pretty usable little gaming beast for only 250 dollars.
So you fill definitely find a buyer for your old GPU. You can sell it for at least 120 dollars. Which is like 90 to 95% of what an A380 will cost.
@@CharlieConcepts-pw9ur You make an excellent point that the A380 is superior to the 1660 for the same money. However you're also right that it needs resizable BAR. I reckon without it then it's only 50% performance so in an old Dell desktop you may as well keep the 1660.
Wouldn't the low profile RTX 3050 6GB also do similar performance?
@@mrman6035 The RTX 3050 is twice the money and quite a lot more performance.
I would love to see a comparison between this card and the Dell single slot LP rx 6500. I just got one and it was kinda hard to figure out what to buy because there was no reviews. I think it could beat the performance when using pcie 4.0 like in that PC, but not 3.0
Other single slot low profile cards I would love to see compared are the t1000, GTX 1650 gddr6, and rx 6400
Nice
Do you have a link to the vram coolers you added?
I have a Sparkle 8600 GT. Sounds like a damn jet engine.
Could you show these units and how well they handle older generation games. Like Shadow of the Colossus pushed up to 5x or something. That would show what the system is capable of.
This MS01 just need a great garphic cardsand will be probably the best compact PC in all history.
I love these small builds but still waiting for the BD790i build with the LP4060. You used a full size GPU with it but used the LP4060 with the BD770i and the AR900i. I really wanted to see the comparison between the BD790i and the AR900i.
You need to put the VRM heatsink onto the mosfet not the chokes which don't need cooling. You're making the mosfets hotter by blocking airflow to it now.
Ah just noticed this. Looks like if he had a thinner heatsink just to target the mosfets that might be a better idea. Wonder how much effort it would be to just mill a piece of aluminium out to fit.
RIGHT! I was looking for others that pointed this out. I'm a subscriber, btw. I really enjoy your GPU tier list. I'm hoping you'll make one for the 7900 GRE. I want to know which model has the best GDDR6 (Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron) for overclocking.
@@AshtonCoolman Thanks for being a subscriber. I have not had any time to make new videos yet unfortunately, but plan to come back to it for sure.
Can I ask you to add a link for the heatsink you purchased?
Best way to test Fortnite is just to go play a match of Battle Royale, which is what most people play it for. That'll save a replay (Career -> Replays) that you can use for consistent testing.
Do you have the link to the heat sink you used? I love this build.
This is cool
Which one comes with another company making the drivers?
I have to give it to Intel though for one thing, I love how these GPUs look.
How did you get the single slot card? Im building a home media server and this card being able to trranscode av1 would be nice to have in a single slot and lp
Sparke should actually release a A380 like this.
Emulation showdown between this and an Rx6400 please. That doesnt require a cooler hack so the performance difference in those two would be appreciated.
I bought an Asrock A380LP for my HTPC. It's OK, but its bios is locked so that it can only draw 45 watts maximum. I've tried several methods of raising the limit in order to get more grunt out of it, but to no avail. I am told that the Sparkle unit can be bumped up to 60 watts or so. BTW, when you run an ARC GPU with a 12th, 13th, or 14th gen Intel CPU with an iGPU, you get much better performance due to Intel's Deep Link technology.
ETA, it's been a year I watched your last video but it feels to be back.
Also I had a question, since Intel improved the card so much through updates, is it good enough for buying for my own PC build in your opinion?
Yes
W ARC!
*ThinkCentre models m720q, m920q, m90q, p320, p330 & I believe also the m920x "tiny" models each all have an actual PCIe Express Slot* (I believe x8). & there's x16 to x8 adapters/ connector cards (90° angle) made for this mod to add a single slot discrete GPU into the original housing. Some people have done it and drilled or cut holes in the top over the CPU & GPU fans for better airflow. Some have even 3D printed a new top cover/ lid for this upgrade. It'd be nice if you could do a video on it showing newer games running on it. I've seen a couple people do it with A2000 single slot mods. & it'd also be cool to see someone do it with a RX 6400 using Chimera OS. Which that I haven't seen yet (you'd be the 1st).
Also it seems everyone that's done the GPU upgrade on a 1L mini/ tiny are using the i5 8500t variants of those ThinkCentre models mentioned above.
Those could be a budget build version of something like this setup here. But for a fraction of the price.
Would this card be a good option for a Dell optiplex i7 -3770?
i love mods like this, so cool that you got it down to a single slot. do you use hardware info 64? im sure the temps were fine but im curious if there was any noticeable change.
Would be cool if there was a passive cooled one that draws power only from the PCIe slot, would be great as a encoder card.
It exists, matrox makes them but since it's targeted at prosumer market the price is not cheap, look up matrox luma series
😮😮😮- Can you try this on either an Optiplex i7 2600/3xxxx/4xxxx? I have an old GTX 1050 ti in mine, and is a little long in the tooth. I really do not want to get rid of this PC.
the thing with the single slot cards on hp sffs is the fan blows direct into the power supply unit
The other thing is they are onlu x8 lanes but Gen4. On Gen3 you only have half the bandwidth.
*@ETAPRIME* hey there Prime. I've looked but couldn't find any videos with you modifying any of the older "mini"/ "tiny" office PC's. I've seen you make low end budget builds using these older SFF Office PC's. But I was wondering if you've done so with some of the "mini"/ "tiny" 1L Office PC's as well ? The tiny Lenovo ThinkCentre models m720q, m920q, m90q, p320, p330 & I believe also the m920x each all have an actual PCIe Express Slot (I believe x8). & there's x16 to x8 adapters/ connector cards (90° angle) made for this mod to add a single slot discrete GPU into the original housing. Some people have done it and drilled or cut holes in the top over the CPU & GPU fans for better airflow. Some have even 3D printed a new top cover/ lid for this upgrade. It'd be nice if you could do a video on it showing newer games running on it. I've seen a couple people do it with A2000 single slot mods. & it'd also be cool to see someone do it with a RX 6400 using Chimera OS. Which that I haven't seen yet (you'd be the 1st). This GPU in your video here (A380) or even the A310 would also probably be nice to see in one od those older 1L tiny ThinkCentre PC's. They are about the same size as the MS-01 but for wayyy cheaper. Helping aid in building something similar for a low budget build for a fraction of the price.
Also it seems everyone that's done the GPU upgrade on a 1L mini/ tiny are using the i5 8500t variants of those ThinkCentre models mentioned above.
Sería interesante utilizarlo en aplicaciones de inteligencia artificial.
You should do a video like "Graphics Settings for Dummies" as I don't think any one else has as much experience with these small builds like you do.
Most reviewers get the latest mega parts and show how awesome it is, but there really isn't much for the minimalist's like us.
Is there any singleslot aftermarket cooling solutions for the new 6gb rtx 3050?
Great
DELL has a oem RX 6500 single slot option. Shouldn't that be the stronger option?
Hey @ETA PRIME how about a face off with all available options on the market in 75 Watt GPU cards for upgrading an OEM PC that doesn't offer PCIE power cable?!
I am thinking about the new ARC 380 (without external power), RTX 3060 6GB, good old GTX 1650, maybe even GTX 1050 Ti for comparison and if available an RTX A2000 6 or 12GB card which should be that RTX 3050 6 GB.
super curious how it performs on pcie 3.0
for example, would you gain running it on a 5600g, or is the built in vega better?
No the A380 is miles better than an APU. The APU can game though. You have to go back a long way to find a GPU that an APU will beat.
is there a way to buy the 380 u attach to the 310 fan in the video u said u would sell for 60$. is there like a link or something.
I was thinking of using one of these in a media center PC but can't find out if it can do 3840x2160 at 120hz since that's what my TV is.
Some sources say it has HDMI 2.0 and some say it's HDMI 2.1. Do you know which one it is?
Have you tested it on a 4k @ 120 monitor? I really don't want to buy one if it can't do 4k @ 120.
This seems the same cooler on nvidia quadro old p and k. versions, also some amd firepro versions. much cheaper one to try swap cooler :)
Built a PC for my Niece loaded it with a 6GB ARC380, ($75.00) I have the ARC580 ($89.00) to put into my desktop, and Built a system with an ARC 750 OC 3 fan ($189.00) all from MicroCenter, so three so far. Replacing my RX 6600 in my desktop it goes from 0 fan to 2000 at 50 degrees no matter what I do. THE 580 has about the same performance. Just put the AMD RX7600XT 16GB in my gaming rig and RT works well enough. I also do use Linux so NV does not play well. Add them all price and that is 5 GPU's for under 1 NVidia would have cost me.
this should be usable for fledging content creators
How was the noise on that thing though?
Is there a good small external case you'd recommend? A lot of us have something like an Ayaneo and want a bump in power while home.
I don't think Arc cards are compatible with egpus right now. The most similar one would be the 3050 6 gb, and aside from the laptop based egpus, most of the gpu minus housings are 2 to 4 slots, and either use a full size power supply, or come with 100+ watt power supplies. ETA has reviewed a very small one though the Pocket AI RTX A500, it's $510 on the companies website right now, there's also the GPD G1 that ETA also reviewed, about $650ish on Ali.
Did the GPU power really push up to 100W as reported? Might be a bit much for just the PCIe slot alone on that little box.
I have a weird question, can this card support 4k60hz in pcie x1 slot? my pc only have a x1 slot available
This GPU is nice but also this brand makes an A380 itX that doesn’t require PCIE power
which aftermarket heatsink is used here?
Buying both of these cards would be cheaper than buying a low profile GTX 1650.🙁
After watching this video I immediately purchased the Sparkle SFF card and despite an affordable price it was just too damn noisy! And I thought the PS4 was cringe with their "Jet plane" effects.
How do they handle GameCube and Xbox
What about say killer instinct?
Can you redo the thermal paste on the MS-01 CPU? The factory paste is terrible.....
so it requires a resizable bar in the cmos. pcie3 motherboards like on my i7-7700 cant make use of this and are better off using the 3050 low profile dual slot card.
Please put the VRM cooler on the MOSFETs(black chips) and not the chokes (gray blocks). The MOSFETs are what get really hot.
I wish the Low profile Rtx A2000 cooler would fit on a gtx 1050-1650 low profile video cards.
do an emulation test also.
does these video card works with batocera?
How's the noise?
What is the dimensions for the heat sink?
Do you have the size details or a link to that small blue heatsink you bought for the vram chips? Think I'll do the same mod here for my ms-01.
If ETA doesn't respond, it looks like a universal 30x40x5 mm heatsink, if you google it you can find it, if you have the card, double check the measurements to ensure coverage and clearance, I don't have the card myself, but by best estimation that's what it looks like.
Thanks for the heads up.
Ended up buying the 310 for now and testing it. With modest overclocking I get a time spy score of 31,000 which is higher than the 380 achieves in this vid. The vram is interesting but I'm thinking performance wise the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze until the A2000 minisforum is intending to sell becomes available.
That's awesome, I love how the sff stuff is coming along. There are a few single slot heatsinks for the a2000 I've seen, though availability is spotty. I personally don't understand why all 70w and under slot powered cards just don't come as low pro/ single slot by default, with a full size bracket. The Nvidia T series is a good example of this the 2gb t400 though to the 8gb t1000 are all single slot, low pro.
How many passengers can the A380 hold?
do these arc 310's and 380's require the use of resizable bar?
Yes, it's essential to get full speed, otherwise they're only half the speed. Other GPUs it's about 10% but on the A380 it's vital.
PS, I expect that means they're no good in old Dell SFF PCs. Best to build new with a B550 motherboard for best results, B520 are only Gen3 PCIe.
Remember how there was this software or a mod to some software that let people use AMD and Nvidia for DLSS & FSR... Wonder how hard it would be to make that same software run intel graphics too. Then you could run DLSS-FSR-XESS or whatever Intel called theirs- all in tandem!
And then you'd end with very bad performance because of all that scaling overhead.