Small Foot Print Power On The Edge! The BEST 2.3L SFF Gaming PC You Can Build Now
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This is one of the best Small Form factor Gaming pcs you can build right now, It runs everything!
The Dell Precision 3240 Compact is a 2.3Liter Mini PC powered by a 10th Gen Intel CPU and with a bit of case modification you can add an Nvidia RTX A2000 Graphics card! We test take look at the build, run some benchmarks and test some AAA games like cyberpunk 2077, god of war, Spiderman, Elden Ring COD modern warfare 2 and many more!
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00:00 Introduction
00:20 Build Overview
01:06 Video Sponsor Ad Spot
02:09 Getting it all put together
05:52 It all Fits!
06:28 Windows performance
07:14 Cyberpunk 2077 RTX A2000
07:37 Bios Fan Setting
07:59 Spiderman Miles RTX A2000
08:46 Benchmarks RTX A2000
09:17 God Of War RTX A2000
09:44 Elden Ring RTX A2000
10:09 Injustice 2 RTX A2000
10:41 GTA 5 RTX A2000
11:07 Dirt 5 RTX A2000
11:35 Call Of Duty Modern warfare 2 RTX A2000
11:53 Power consumption
12:37 Final Thoughts
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We need more PCIe Powered GPUs tbh.
I think the new 4060 LP is like that
@infowarrior6644 sadly not, with a tdp of 115 it would still need a bit of extra juice.
@@King_K_Rool_ actually every rtx 40 series card reaches to a tdp of almost 110-115w so its literally the same thing even if nvidia marked it as tgp of 140w which shows in the nvidia control panel. for example the rtx 4060 in my acer predator helios neo 16 2023 laptop has 140w tgp but it reaches till 115w (i did benchmark tests and saw reviews too for every laptop which has a gpu from the rtx 40 series), cuz the rtx 4060 cards are 'power-efficient' as nvidia says.
This is what an Intel Nuc should be. Definitely an awesome device.
That is a super clean sff build. Great videos as always.
Really enjoying your videos, you inspired me to try out a project SFF rig for fun. Just got an HP 600 G4 SFF in today for $147 (shipped + tax). It's a little chunky imo, but I'm gonna stick with it and see what I can do. Didn't realize how perfect the SFF size and weight was on that Dell 3240 (Kinda wish I waited lol). Looking forward to more content!
I think the SFF would be heavier.
The SFF would be around 5Kg.
The Dell Precision 3240 Compact is 1.72Kg.
Also the dimension is like 2 dell optiplex 7050 Micro stacked side by side.
i just did the hp elitedesk g3 build you did a little while ago. it was already way smaller than my other pc, i cant wait to do this one as well.
I 100% would like to see SteamOS and the RX6400! I have been thinking about putting together a low cost, Living room sff pc and the main stopping point has been the need for AMD graphics. The size restraints of the smaller cases have Def limited my choices. Thanks Prime!
just buy a deck,its also a pc
@polarvortex I have been contemplating this exact thing..Lol. Although, the deck outputting to a 4k TV is not exactly a good experience... but then again..rx6400..right. Appreciate the suggestion... Decks On sale today!! Woot woot!
@@polarvortex6601 but it won't be as powerful as RX6400 no?
@@brandonkarm9092 no prob go get em tiger!
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eta already built one with rx 6400. only 4.5 L
I used your coupon for my office pcs.. Thanks Prime, greetings from the Philippines
I work on a lot of dells of very different sizes and when you opened this up i realized that it's basically a vertically stretched dell ultra small form factor. Made wider to fit a video card. It even uses a very similar cpu cooler to deel usff PCs, but i definitely can see the temps being a lot better
I've been running a 1050ti LP for a few years, really enjoyed it. I have one of those A2000's arriving today to pair with an EliteDesk with an i7-8700 - I like the larger form factor because there are more cooling options. Right now when doing PS3 emulation, it'll jump up to about 80c. Hoping to get that down to the 60's with some other things I have on the way. Thanks for the demo!
You can mount a case fan externally if it comes down to it. Cut a hole in the side of the case and use a fan screen guard.
This is crazy good! Thank you for that
Damn that's small,dope already thinking of ways to mod/customise the case,plus that's a very good price for an upgradable platform
Great video. I love the things you come up with. I would really like to see a video with the steam OS. Hope you do that one soon.
Great video. As usual! Thank you.
This looks like a nice little box. I'd use it for MIDI rather than gaming, but I appreciate this channel.
Great find as always. Keep in mind that your RTX A2000 is PCIe x16 generation 4 (16 Gbps), and the Intel Gen 10 is gen 3, (8Gbps) and only DDR4. The Dell Precision 3260 is a 12th gen i5 with DDR5 memory that is being sold as low as $600. Same case. A better deal is to find a system with a 11th gen Intel which has gen 4 memory. Keep in mind you have to make sure your riser is gen 4 certified. Don’t think you can get by with gen 3. I tried with two different riser cables, one of hight quality and even a 3cm PCB vertical riser - none worked until forced it to gen 3. PCIe 4th gen riser cables start at $40. I did get better results, especially after replacing the heat conductive foam with a copper shim plate. You can also change out the shunt resistor with a lower value to increase the 75W limit and solder a 12VDC power cable to a 12VDC source and ground to push A2000 further with MSI Afterburner. 8000 points in 3D Mark is doable without it exceed 80c.
PS the foldable M6/RX6400 is almost done. Still working out the folding hinge design. 3D Mark graphics score of 3422 (sadly the n5150 CPU score was a piddly 1568). Still it beats the Ryzen 6900HX with over clocked DDR5 memory. To bad the company behind the M6 didn’t have the foresight to add to M.2 PCIe slots. In any case runs “Stray” 1080P, 60fps high settings and “Dead Space” 2023 at 1280P, 60fps at almost all high settings. More than enough to meet my limited gaming needs. Even better works great over Sunshine/Moonlight.
Hi, if i were to solder a 12VDC power cable to the source, can i use a 6 pin power extension cable? And can i use any of the 6 wires in the cable? And should i remove the other wires?
Thanks so much, you have a nice intro and much better content!!
Thanks doood just what we needed to know 😊
Is this finally the RTX A2000 12GB that absolutely no one benchmarks??
Edit - Not yet, still the 6GB version
For real I swear I never see folks cover those
I do think that this is the 6GBs version, isn’t it?
Edit: I was right 6:45
There is no difference in performance between the 6GB vs 12GB version.
6gb version
@@-BarathKumarS That's simply not true where the games have large textures or where Raytracing uses 1GB+ VRAM. You might not "get significantly more FPS" from the 12GB version, but you can certainly enable higher settings and textures. In games like Hogwarts Legacy even with DLSS the cards with 8GB were vested by 12GB RTX 3060 (non-Ti) lol
love it,, what a great little performer.
Bro that PC is going Mastered Ultra Ego with it screaming that loud! :D
I have one of these with a 6 core Xeon W-1250, 16gb RAM, and a 6gb Quadro RTX 3000. It is a solid machine. Best part of these Dells will be when all the companies that lease these have those leases end, ebay gets flooded with some nice cheap hardware.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I am betting you are already working on it, but I would definitely be interested in seeing how that RX 6400 does in a system like this.
Sadly the RX6400 is 2-3mm to long... cant place the front back again...
I have a Dell Optiplex 3090 with a i5-10500, an a2000, a sn850x 1 tb, and 32 gb ram. I love it and it can chew through anything at 1080p
As far as games go… it has been apparent that cyberpunk has been your main “stress tester” for your builds of late. I think a new one to add to that is Returnal, which has only recently been released on pc, loads of graphics options to tinker with, not many have tried to get it running on lower end systems (at least from what I’ve been able to find on CZcams so far as of this scribbling). I’d really like to see you try returnal on this, and any other builds in future videos!
Returnal isn’t really much of a stress test unless you turn on RT at which point what are you trying to prove by comparing it to a non-Nvidia device? Even most mainline Nvidia GPU’s can’t properly run RT as it becomes overwhelmingly CPU bottlenecked unless you’re rocking a 4080 or higher.
I recommend Crysis.
Alan wake 2 entered the chat 👹
Yes, definitely want to see this using SteamOS.
Mr. Prime, do a side by side comparison of the A-2000 vs. the RX 6400 in that special little PC of yours. The A-2000 is a little pricey and the 6400 is a lot more budget friendly.
@@smashpro1 I bought a new one for around the used/refurbished price when the price went down. It’s a steal sense I gave it to my cousin who wanted a pc he can play some games on.
Night and day
I’d like to upvote this 😂💯
A2000 unfortunately too expensive for me. For the same price can get a decent slightly larger GPU
@@EzaneeGires you basicly missed out, there was a period where you could get "used" rtx a2000 6gb for under 200 usd during the first "initial crypto dump".
i snagged two 6gb models for 230 Cad a peice.... best and worse investment ever because now i need two more pcs to build for them lol
I'd definitely love to see that steamos setup!
110% cool 😎
Thank you Eta.
Kindest regards, neighbours.
i did the same but adding the a2000 to hp elitedesk 800 g4 sff which has i7 8700 (about the exact same performance as 10500) though a slightly bigger case. i do plan to make a video on it with upgrades of ram adding wifi and Bluetooth card and maybe a new cooler too if I manage to make it happen. i will be starting a new channel since my last one got hacked and coudln't recover, but I am loving the small PCs same as you do which is why I subscribed a while ago and keep watching most of the old and all of the newer videos you make, great job
Awesome device! I wanted to bay Precision, but it is expensive . Finally I bought Optiplex 7000 on i7-12700T. Thanks for video.
Good video!
Please, make comparison with 1650 low profile and A2000 =)
Nice. may have to check this out.
That's a nice build
Very interesting. Have worked with a lot of Tiny pc's but never seen a two story model with space for add-in discrete graphics.
Which is a better frontend for emulation? Batocera or Bigbox, which one should I use? Great content by the way, keep up the work
Interesting build re: repurposing the 3240. I5 10500 performance similar to a 4750G build (not advocating an AMD in a Intel mobo) with a comparable GPU, but the AMD build would set one back more. Surprisingly a 4-core 4770K struggles to keep up but makes a valent effort. The A2000 is certainly a nice SFF GPU given the space available and have come down appreciably in price. Nice! Thank you.
I'm making an AI Workstation for my start-up company and I need a professional GPU for all the cuda and tensor cores and I've been looking at the low profile A2000 for a while, ordered it thanks to this video in the 12gb vram variant since machine learning reqires large vram amounts and can't wait for all the other parts to arrive next month. Pairing it with 64GB ram and i9-13900 so I can make some future GPU upgrades if needed. Building mine in the NZXT H210i ITX case
I really like these kind of form factor. I just wish the parts were more accessible and cheap.
I have that exact computer. You can toast bread on this thing it gets so hot. I have a GT1030 in it lol didnt realize there was something better i could have put in it.. thanks a ton!
Great video, a Steam OS test would be great
Wow, I didn't realize these were actual PCs , There are tons of these in our office, used by the people who work there. I have to travel so, I have a laptop. I thought these were Thin-clients!!
I really have a thing for sff machines, that one is just mad smol
it's my kitchen laptop but it's a 10500h and a 1650 msi lets you overlock it by 100 then 500 on the memory it's perfect for everything i've used it for. Mainly photo editing, I added another 1tb ssd into it and then 8gb of ram so it's duel channel. 670$ for something I can play game on is perfect. My fav thing about it was adding the extra memory. I've been on 32gb on the main pc for so long I can't imagine only 8. also the 6 cores and 12 threads helps cemu and ps3 as far as I can tell. the extra threads really helped out my overall lows to the 50s.
Excellent video. I'm already done the same. Although I have the i7 version with 32gb and the 12gb version of nvidia RTX A2000. It's really fast and it can play almost everything.
I have Dremeled the nvidia bracket, though.
Only one question. What is the make of the keyboard you use.?
You can do some DIY to make it cooler. Cut a hole on side panel and attach a fan on it. It will definitely increase airflow
Its a shame that the A2000 doesn't work well with HoloISO, this would make a great little steam OS box.
Blame Nvidia and their awful proprietary drivers.
You made me buy a SFF Optiplex back in December last year and while I am happy with it for my retro gaming needs, I kinda wished I didn't, so I could build this one instead. Oh well, nice video and I am looking forward to the STEAM OS build with this PC.
That's the problem with this hobby. There's always something better next month.
@@JamieStuff Very true. And if you don't buy when you feel the time is right, you will never get said thing either.
This one is MUCH more expensive than your Optiplex though. With these SSF PCs, Acer Veriton N series miniPCs are worth considering - they have full size PCI-E x16 slot under the cover. (they have attachment for plugging in GPU but unfortunately I have never seen any for sale separately... not a problem 3D printing one tho)
One of these could make a great pfsense box because of being able to use a true pcie nic.
Amazing PC I loved it's like a cute little dragon 🐉 with the a power of Godzilla 👌
Optiplexes are where it's at for budget PCs. I've got a cheap Optiplex 7010 for $40. What a steal.
Dell Optiplex computers are underrated. I have been using one as a media server for 10 years now and it's still running.
Can confirm. This was a Precision but Optiplex are similar in terms of durability. I'm using a 4th gen 3020 SFF to type this. Bought it refurbished over 3 years ago when it was off-lease and thus 3 years old already, and still running strong. Bought it with i5-4590 and 8GB, 320GB HDD. Upgraded it to 16GB, GT 1030, 240GB SSD (later upgraded to a 1TB SSD with DRAM cache), 4TB HDD, PCIe SATA host adapter so I could keep the DVD, NetGear A6100 USB WiFi, not necessarily in that order. Runs every game I've tried at least passably. Looking at an RX 6400 for it's "final" upgrade, unless I can also find an i7-4790 (or similar Xeon with iGPU for the QSV) for cheap.
I built a similar rig with the A2000 6GB in the Precision 3460 Small Form Factor in March as well. The need to run at base clocks no turbo with a fan using an i5 12500 while still being *VERY* warm and throttling constantly was an annoyance of mine. The first strike was the rough stability situation in games with frame rates fluctuation even locked at 60fps in triple A and locked 120-165fps in e sports. It just could not perform consistently. The noise on the desk where such a machine would stay ended up being the final straw. I am holding out for 784X HS variant small form factors for the time being. The dream of Noctua 120mm 800-1200rpm levels of quality woosh sound in a small, but not tiny form factor especially under 100 watts load *Mwuuaah** perfecto. You have shown many a good option thus far. Currently rocking a 4600G in waiting.
Super film👍
3 questions:
Can I use another model of the precision?
Can I use another graphics card that can fit?
Would this be better than a mini forums pc?
Thanks for any help. I am really interested in building a budget mini pc and this video came into my FYP
I am looking at building an "ultralight" pc for my bicycle camper...the motherboard from this would be a great candidate for the build. The a2000 is almost a shoe in if the budget is there...but i dont mind modifying other gpu with laptop style blower HSF assembly and low profile power connectors. The case will be custom...as little metal as possible, probably fiberglassed foam and plastic bits from my scrap case heap. I am even removing things like PSU housing and just mounting the PSU PCB inside the case. I have also been looking at laptop motherboards. Price is basically the determining factor when I go to order, but I will check into these motherboards as well. Or even a whole system and flipping the extra parts on ebay or something.
Taobao has some thin mini-itx 12th/13th gen PIO motherboards that are pretty cheap, around 100usd
Why are you playing video games while you're camping?
Honestly just get a used gaming laptop
@@victorkreig6089 Bad weather options are nice to have. Especially if you're away from home for weeks.
That's a micro system amazing
Great channel watch quite often. If you put a graphics card that needs 6 or 8 pin power would a dell 230 brick plug right into the card? Then it would be two separate power supply?
I would like to see SteamOS and the RX6400! I absolutely love seeing SteamOS builds and the comparison to windows.
This thermal paste replacement stuff is always fun in my eyes. Had a i5 3570k watercooled undervolted and overclocked running for 10 years with the same arctic silver 5 paste.
When i removed it finally cause the watercooler had to go the paste was surely a bit goe but aside of that provided for 10 years the same temps.
So i guess it´s not really that important unless you choose to go with the cheapest gunk you can find.
Found an Core 2 duo E6850 with an MSI p7n diamond and with Asus Orbe cooler in the university storage today. Turn it on with an ssd and stress test it, didnt passed 55 degrees. When changed the paste (it was dry) it went to 53. So, they used a good one.
@@DanielGT_93 Which is arguably even more impressive. As in my case the system was running pretty much daily for hours.
In your case the system ran at one point and then the parts have been shelved for god knows how long with no heat applied i´d assume the effect on the paste would be even worse over the years. But 2 Degrees? That is within tolerance and/or duo to a bit better paste now being used.
So in the end, changing paste is irrelevant, at least if you used proper paste to begin with.
@@snakeplissken1754 The room it was found was closed, no air in or out, i suspect that made it last.
Nice brother
Can you do a long form video of taking it apart and putting it back together?
Id love to see battlefield 2042 tested, ive been wanting to build something small for so long and this looks promising
nice video, wanna replace my xbox by one of these mini pcs with Steam OS
Hey ETA Prime, which do you like better the Dell Precision 3240 or the MSI Trident 3 for playing games and just as an everyday use machine?
If u cap the fps to 60 the temps would be good for gaming
i was able to snag a dell 3070 for $140 in my area, i5 9500, 16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD. Pretty good deal
Rtx A2000 costs around 700 dollar at my local seller. Crazy
You should adapt a fan so that the graphics card and processor fans can catch more air.
what is that keyboard at the end of the video? i like!
Holy moly the 12GB A2000 is $1200aud!
I wonder if could be upgraded to an i7 cpu, and undervolt it to make it run cool and on the same wattage
Was thinking of building a SFF console like PC for our 4K TV. How is the A2000 with upscaling to 4K with the assistance is DLSS/FSR? We do have two high end PCs on the network for games that would be too demanding.
Just want one of these just for gfn 4080 tier. Have to upgrade a laptop I use currently.
The ebay link isn't right. The results of that search are Dell Optiplex 3240s which are completely different because they're all in ones.
I'm in for the RX6400!
I wonder if they make an 11th gen version of this. What gains would there to be had with pcie 4.0?
100% would like to see SteamOS and the RX6400!
tbh the RX6400 could be paired with something cheaper/older than a 10th gen... ijs
Please, could you add emulator's test? That'll be terrific, thank you
Does the GPU run in 16x or 8x with that riser?
Perfect LAN PC.
Cool little device but I love my nr200p and looking to add a rtx 4090 in it.
The 7040 series Ryzen chips gonna make that discreet gpu obsolete. Will make mini PC's ludicrous.
I would not recommend this series of dell desktops, I work in IT in a business that exclusively uses dell. I have recently had to pull every one of those precisions for crashing and overheating issues and replace them with standard sff optiplex models. If you get one, make sure it has good access to cool air and repasting the cpu is not a bad idea either. They also get very loud under load, sounds like a mini jet engine.
How can I buy a few of them 😊
Kinda wish you showed this step by step still a great built tho
Can u make a custom build with the Case of the "Lenovo thinkcentre m600 10gj" ?
I appreciate you showing this. I want to use one for a home server.
you should check out the Lenovo ThinkStation P360 Ultra
Hey, I think this would be really cool with the new 4060 single slot by galax that is coming out soon
I would love replacing my dell g5 with this. Would make so much more space
I'm in the plan of trying to do the same, get this PC and build it for gaming. One thing I've tried to figure out is, do the 2 slots for m.2 support gen 4 nvme or is it gen 3? And how much it will support? Cause I saw a spec that it will only go with 2TB each I think.
Yes, please try with the RX6400!
Amazing performance but the A2000 is still too expensive for me because I don't game a lot. Also I would lower the maximum CPU usage to keep those temps down a bit.
I might want to cut a big hole at the side panel and put a big fan there LOL.
Could you test Destiny 2 average fps with one of your sff pcs with the rtx a2000?
Does it fit the NVIDIA RTX 4000 SFF Ada Generation?
Cute lil gpu. Can you use this a2000 gpu in an intel nuc 9 extreme
My build features a Dell D756 with i7 6700, 16GB DDR4, RTX A2000, 256GB M.2. SSD, 3TB HDD for about 300€ (330 USD). It uses about 180 watts of powerage. I am very happy at the moment. Next buil will go with RTX 4000 SFF if prices drop on a significant level.
How about a mini case with oculink GPU and the um780 xtx mini pc with possible water cooling corsair?
Would this work with the 4060 LP? An update would be nice.
What about ChimeraOS? I was hoping you'd have more coverage of it. It should play with nVIDIA a lot better than holoiso does.
seconded, i want a tutorial on dualbooting it