Know Before You Buy: 2023 Lexus RZ 450e Premium Review
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- You can think of the 2023 Lexus RZ 450e all-electric SUV as sort of a gold-plated version of the Toyota bZ4X. The two EVs are closely related, though they are NOT the same. This Lexus is better in numerous ways, though there's still a lot of room for improvement. When we reviewed the bZ4X last year, we found it to be a decent utility vehicle, though it's not a segment leader. Hyundai's Ioniq 5 and the Genesis GV60 are far better, as is the Ford Mustang Mach-E and probably even the Volkswagen ID.4. However, Lexus' first electric vehicle brings a lot more to the party, including style, technology, and luxury.
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0:00 Introduction
0:25 Revisiting the Toyota bZ4X
0:54 Exterior Walkaround
4:24 Interior Features
5:37 Driving Position
6:09 Infotainment
7:25 Unique Features
8:11 Specs
10:22 Driving Impressions
11:33 One-Pedal Driving
12:50 Pro-Con Summary
13:23 Pricing Breakdown
14:20 Conclusions
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Chad a chance to drive the yoke earlier this year. Here's what he had to say about it --> czcams.com/video/PJrzgaUjWoo/video.html
This is one of the best vehicles that Lexus has ever built. I have owned it for about 3 weeks now in luxury trim. Range is the downside for those of you who need this as your only vehicle .. I travel back and forth to work and so far just using a level 1 charger at home and work sometimes. I also use it on the weekends around town and have no real issues with it. When I compare it with the Tesla products its build quality is so much better.
Thanks for sharing!
So you haven’t even had it for six months and you already claiming it’s the best car Lexus has created ? You must have been used to driving old beat up cars before this. Let us know when you have had it over a year or had to take it to the service dept for service.
@@ede4345 I'm with Kevin above. I have had mine for a week, and it is the best Toyota/Lexus I have ever owned. And I started with Toyota in 1986-2012, and Lexus 300, RX350, and 300h 2013-2024. So if you can't accept that Lexus is the best luxury EV under $65K then go suck on sour grapes! Forget the range crap...Lexus will rent you a gas rig for nothing if you don't want to drive from charger to charger cross country...
@@PhilipKnopp how much they pay you to write this comment? I own a Tesla and about to get my second one. Nobody can beat the Tesla platform it’s that simple but if luxury and a Lexus logo gets you hard then more power to you.
I own one traded in my UX hybrid, definitely the only real downside is range and no sunroof which really bites. As for range, depending on your driving habits you either have to charge every night at home Level 1 or Level 2. My driving habits have led to 80% charge returning 150 miles which I make last about 3 days before charging up again, I usually plug-in at around 40 or 50% and have 80% charge in about 5 hours on Level 2 at home. Lexus also offers 30 complimentary days of using a courtesy vehicle so we don't have to use our EV at all. The point is not to get away from gas completely but moderation until the infrastructure is ready to go. It's a poor attempt but they dipped their toes, looking forward to seeing what they can do in the next 5 to 10 years after perfecting hybridization.
thank you i tried to sit in one of theses at a car show and coulkdnt get in it and i want one of these
what about the rz 300e that has 250 mile range ?
Not yet available for us to test but more range would make this a better car for sure.
The latest episode of Consumer Reports Talking Cars has a question near the end of the episode discussing upcoming EVs. Their conclusion was that it’s not a great time right now to buy an EV because companies are just establishing their production pipelines. What are your thoughts? Should people wait a year or two for superior choice?
We think it's like a cell phone. There'll always be something new and better. That being said, the public charging infrastructure isn't great, so if you're going to do road tripping on the regular you might want to wait.
I usually keep vehicles about 7 years, and my current vehicle is 6.5 years old and I'd rather buy an EV right now. I don't want to wait another 2 years to make a decision on new models. This space will evolve quickly with solid state batteries, longer range, shorter charging time. So in 2 years, I can see forums saying "just wait another 2 years for these features..." I would love a 300-500 mile and faster charging to 80%, but my daily driving is well within a 200 mile range and I still have a second ICE vehicle for longer trips.
@@xenrin Buy now then. There's good stuff out there. It's just easy to get trapped in the "oh, I'll just wait."
@@xenrin no mass produced solid state this decade. So buy away!
I currently own a Tesla and the main reason I got this over others was the amount of charging stations available to us in CA. I charge at home regardless but it’s always good to feel safe when traveling.
I trust lexus to improve on this.
Realistically how many times a year do most people go out of town ? Let for fun say you have a 100 mile commute. When you go home every night and park just plug it up. What's the fuss about
Most people in the U.S. don't buy EVs based on how much they drive, but how much they think they're going to drive some day.
BZ4X, Solterra and this Lexus are too small for me.
Excited to take delivery on my Cadillac Lyriq AWD Sport 3 soon.
Congrats on getting the Caddy! Hope you enjoy it.
- Craig
300 miles needs to be the minimal range. It’s enough to get me through an entire week’s commute.
Fortunately, people charging at home won’t care too much and eventually the Tesla charging network will open up to everyone!?!
See Cadillac Lyriq!
Correct, Toyota/Lexus signed a deal with Tesla and their vehicles will be able to use Tesla chargers. My guess is every new purchase EV will come with an adapter or equipped with a Tesla charging port.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video but I have put down a deposit for the chevy blazer ev 1LT
it's funny, all test of Lexus refers to Toyota, no tests of Audi and Porsche refer to Volkswagen.
If we had an Audi Q4 review, we'd most definitely refer to the ID.4 platform it shares. But there's no Porsche platform currently shared with a Volkswagen-branded EV.
I did not mean specific EV, it's about minimizing / eroding the Lexus brand. Talking about VAG groups I.e. vw touareg and Porsche
Yeah, but we're an EV channel so we speak to EVs.@@janhenriksson3106
@@janhenriksson3106 i agree also he does this with genisis he does not mention hyundai parent but always mentions Toyota when it is Lexus.
imo he is bias anti Japanese so always rips on Japanese brands giving them unfair negative reviews (one example is the Toyota bz4x videos where he spreads "wheels falling off" fake news which was originally astroturfed by tesla to harm sales of its competition when ZERO wheels actually fell off. The issue was that there was a recall because the wheels was under torqued at the factory by 5nm and ALL the effected cars was still in dealer lots so no customer drove the car yet anyway...so hardly a serious issue but evpulse still libel Toyota with lie ), lol comparing at comparing korean hyundai/genisis junk to the Lexus RZ in terms of build quality, reliability, resale etc is ridiculous .
Try to live in the real world here is more to a car than paper specs like 0-60, gizmos and pure range.
@@EVPulse80% of a Porsche has VW parts.
I just would hipe with a luxury brand and not cheap price, that they provide a decent amount of range.
Biggest car selling company in the world and they can’t make a competitive ev model. Toyota never cared about ev market until recently.
There’s No excuse for your phone to ever run out of juice.😂
Good car, good range considering the small battery pack, excellent warranty, an industry first and most comfortable choice in segment. Way better fit and finish than Tesla, way better service, resake value and warranty as well. Nothing wrong with this Lexus, stop bashing Toyota/Lexus.
Thanks for the comment. While you are right, the RZ 450e is comfortable and the quality is sure to be top notch, it still falls short compared to other electric vehicles in the market, and we're not the only ones to point this out. Our friend Roman over at TFL EV wasn't too impressed by this Lexus, either. czcams.com/video/CD1QX9Imgkw/video.html
@@EVPulseit is because your biased . The RZ is tested in the Netherlands and has real world range of 349km. Charging on par with the also tested Bmw... . Far better warranty and given the small battery pack a good range.
@@avdp9095 It's because we drive a ton of EVs.
@EVPulse it has nothing to do with good journalism though..... . If that was the case you would have mentioned the excellent warranty, etc etc. An industry first even, and the only EV you can sell after a few years, still warranty left. But youtube vloggers can say what they want, some, most, get paid for it to plug a brand and bashing Toyota/lexus comes as standard script.
@@avdp9095 The VinFast VF8 has a similar warranty. We also have no idea how the used market is going to play out here, especially since most EVs have an 8 year warranty (so you can still sell after a few years).
It's cool you like the Lexus. We liked a lot of the Lexus when we first drove it. But it's not our favorite and we're sorry that our opinion of the car doesn't match yours. Doesn't make us paid shills.
This thing beats Tesla hands down
For the price, I would get much better the Lyric.
No frunk, which honestly if a manufacturer built the vehicle as an EV only platform is a waste of potential space, and no quick 300+ KW charging. Amazing how Toyota pioneered hybrid tech but is meh in the EV segment. Nice stylize and interior but so many creature comforts missing.
No need for Frunk, less then 2% of people use them
Hopefully the wheels doesn't fall off
They fixed that.
Hope the wheels does fall off so people will ditch this car forever.
The actual range is 148 miles on a single charge. That's horrible
My frustration with Toyota is that their whole EV line is riddled with compromises: 1) Inadequate range of perhaps 150 to 170 miles during the winter months.
2) a charging system that has a slow charge rate that ramps down to nearly zero when 80% charge is approached.
3) a substandard integration of the heat pump and battery thermal system resulting in excessive duplication of hoses, radiators and valves (one of the reasons for no frunk.)
4. An astronomically high price as when compared to the competition from BMW, Genesis and even Tesla. And because it’s from Japan, no tax credit adds a further insult.
To me, buying this Lexus would be like going to McDonalds and getting a cheeseburger wrapped up in a mink wrapper!
No thanks.
Ironically, the bare Model Y is still superior to this functionally.
The Lexus just offers you more intuitive parts from a Lexus.
The range is oke, friend of us has this RZ, he achieves 340km, more than enough. There is more than range..... . He comes from a Tesla.
The RZ is far more comfortable, extremly silent, no riad noise, very well build, far, far better quality naterials and service. So why on eart is this a bad car?????? It had 15 years warranty on batteries!!!!
You really don't know what your talking about if you considers this an average car. It is not.
Yes, there is more than range. Yes, it is built extremely well. It's just not the best in the segment.
@@EVPulse it is, without range perspective....
@@avdp9095 The E-GMP cars DCFC quicker. The Lexus doesn't have a built-in route planner. Ford/Nissan/GM's level 2 ADAS systems are hands-off.
The Lexus is a good Lexus. But again, we have to look at the segment and industry as a whole, and the Lexus could use some improvement (even if you don't consider range).
@@EVPulsewe have the Mustang EV, in our business fleet, worst car ever...beyond awful build, uncomfortable and extreme lot of roadnoise inside, yes 100km more range. But the range for the RZ, 320km, more than enough, 15 years warranty, an industry first. Sister model Solterra and Bz4x after recent software updates far better range and charging. The RZ will benefit as well.
Thanks for sharing this video. I am totally impressed with the features of the vehicle. One or two big weaknesses. Range and rapid charging time. They’re out in left field when it comes to range. The rapid charging time can be a little better. Seems as though Lexus/Toyota/Subaru entered the EV market late. If the Lexus had a 300 mile range and rapid charging time of about 20 minutes, I would’ve considered it in a heartbeat! Sorry to say, I bought the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Range is at 266 miles on the all wheel drive limited trim and rapid charge time of less than 20 minutes . I originally had the Subaru Solterra on reserve, but had to cancel because of the embarrassing recall on the front wheels falling off. In a way, I’m glad went with the Hyundai Ioniq 5. I travel from Baltimore to New York often and I need the range and faster charging time. I’ve taken the trip to New York and back a few months ago with no problems. Planning to make the trip with the Hyundai Ioniq 5 next week. In fact, I can get over 320 miles of range!!!!
You made a great choice. The Ioniq 5 is an amazing EV. Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Craig
@@craigcole5497 Craig, thanks for the wonderful reply. I’ve had the Ioniq 5 since the first week in November. Still haven’t reached the 5000 mile mark. Planning to make a trip to New York next week. This will be my second trip to New York with the Ioniq 5. Where I’m staying is about 210 miles from my home in Baltimore. If I had the Lexus 450e, I probably wouldn’t be able to make it on a full charge. The last trip to New York, my Ioniq 5 was charge to 100% with 309 miles of range. I stopped In Elizabeth, New Jersey to charge up. I had about 96 miles remaining at that point. If I couldn’t find an Electrify America charging station, I still would’ve made it to Brooklyn on a single charge with about 75 miles to spare. With the Lexus RZ450e, I wouldn’t be able to make it on a single charge.! BTW, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 comes with free complimentary fast charging 30 minute sessions for 2 years. It takes me about 20 minute to charge from 10 to 80 %
I don't see anyone but the most loyal Lexus customer buying this. This is an almost complete failure as an EV. There are so many better options out there. Unless you have to have a Lexus right now, this should be a hard pass for buyers.
The interior is nice, the dynamics are great and reliability *should be* stellar, but you're definitely not wrong. The RZ does come up short in some pretty important areas. Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Craig
No one is considering the RZ.
As someone who own an ev6 and waited 6 months for parts and service. I would love to buy this thing. More luxurious, more reliable. I don’t need super fast charging 150kw is fast enough to because electrify America charger doesn’t work half time the anyways. I rather have more luxury slightly less range but something I know is going to just work.
@@TBRIANANDY1 Considering that the Toyota version of the car had a stop sale because the wheels were falling off, I wouldn’t assume that the Lexus version is going to be reliable. Toyota can and will do a better job with their next EV. I’d wait for that one.
@@treads2595 This is definitely a compliance/proof of concept platform. You'd have to be insane to actually buy it.
They should of had BYD build it!
CCS is becoming as undesirable as CHAdeMO.
Indeed
This car doesn’t look aero at all
everyone says that tesla y are better .. bad quality! bad warranty! Terrible driving quality! panel glitches! yes it has good autonomy and charging speed! but if the battery is damaged you have to buy another one and they are not cheap!! now the lexus is better at everything than the tesla except for autonomy and charging speed! but here in pprtugal they give me a million kilometers warranty on batteries and motors! car quality is light years ahead of teslas! I'd rather have a reliable, quality and guaranteed car than have another 100 kilometers of autonomy.. stop making videos like this and do real things that matter.. autonomy and loading speed is not everything! Overall the Lexus RZ is better!
One of the worst vehicles ever made in automotive history. Idiots paid like 80k lol
Range is king. This is crap. Ty.
Terrible range for a $60k plus vehicle. No thanks
I dont know who design this ugly lexus.. they have to fire him from job ASAP.