How to shoot sports handheld like a pro
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- If you shoot sports handheld but you're always disappointed by the results, here are 3 simple tips that will change your life! And with a little practice, soon enough you'll be able to shoot sports handheld like a pro.
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What's your handheld filming trick that isn't mentioned in this video?
What auto focus settings do you use? and how would that translate to canon?😀
@@danielsvids7325 I typically leave my autofocus mode on wide but I sometimes use touch focus on my screen or even manual focus when need be.
A smallrig chest pad to press the rig against yourself.
@@taaktuuq That's a great idea. I didn't even know that existed!
Breathing, slow, steady breaths makes a world of difference.
The cutout transition at 2:19 actually made my jaw drop. Your choice of music and clips in that whole montage were not just creative, they were effective. WOW
Thank you! 🙏🏽
Can we not give E his Flowers!? Always bringing that heat and always answers questions that we might have. Thank you Sir🙏🏻✨💯
You’re too kind, much appreciated! 🙏🏽
Just discovered your channel today and, dude, amazing!! Your video about volleyball three years ago was really helpful for me! I am starting to shoot beach volleyball at my city in Brazil. Man you're the channel I needed to improve quickly at sports shooting! keep it up.
That's so good to hear 😊 Thank you for your feedback!
really helpful...i love the sound track you use on this video...🤩
Great tips, thank you! I’ve recently started using an external evf on a friction arm. I can extend the arm so it’s possible to stand upright and shoot with v mount against my belly, with no need to stoop. I’m surprised at how much extra stability it adds.
Great Video. I love using a monopod. Helps out when I'm on a longer lens
Thank you! And yes it’s good to have some support with a monopod or tripod if you film mostly from far.
the purpose of your channel is amazing bro. literally free coaching and tips. the man. so cool you film NBL too. I thought we were forgotten about being Down under haha
Thank you! 🙏🏽
Another great and helpful video as usual..much appreciated 👏
Thank you!
Excellent video, and SUPER useful tips! Many thanks!
Thank you!
So helpful, thank you so much !
Love that video! Awesome tips as always! Thank you!
🙏🏽
So helpful! Thank you
Listening to you lets me know I'm on the right track. Good info like aways 😤
That’s good to hear! Thanks 😊
Great video. Thank you for the tips.
You're more than welcome!
I do the exact thing and it is a game changer!
Useful content ! Thanks 👍
Merci E pour toutes ces informations, très utiles et efficaces !
De rien, je suis bien content de pouvoir aider!
Liked & subscribed! Thanks for the great tips!
Thank you 😊
Another banger! Great video E
Thanks man 😊
Great vid as always🔥
Thanks! 🙏🏽
Excellent advice. Thank you!
Appreciate it 💪🏿
Thank you! Great Video 💪🫡
Glad you liked it!
Great tips!
Thank you!
Great tips ..Thank you
You’re welcome 😊
Thanks for the tip! I shoot basketball with a cannon c70 and been finding some issues shaking a lil bit
Happy to help! I hope you'll see some improvement moving forward after watching this.
Great advice!
Thank you!
Great tips. I shoot almost entirely handheld and I’ve found that throwing just a little Warp Stabilizer effect on (8% max) in Premiere does a lot to make my shakier stuff watchable without making it all Jell-O looking.
True. Warp stabilizer can be hit and miss but it has saved my life many times!
Great tips
Glad it was helpful!
Always thought you guys took a valium or something before the game, this is very more enlightening
😂
Very interesting video E !! Thank you !
Sometimes when I’m shooting under the basket, I’m not sat, but crouching.
And when I need to move the camera, I rotate my whole body while pushing on my tiptoes. My whole body is like a tripod rotating head 😂
I’m not very agile, so everyone can manage to do this !
Sounds like a smart idea (also a little painful 😂)
@@BeyondTheGame_E Hahaha yeah, if you stay long like that it can be for sure!
When you have catched a great play in this angle, you can swap to another position.
As you are very experienced and fit, you can stay like that all match long E 😉
Great content man, thanks - You shooting in Slog3 ? just noticed your 12800 naive iso - picture looks clean and poppin
Thanks! And yes, I shoot in slog3.
This tips help a lot ! Question, do you always leave stabilization off on camera or was that just for this video to show the technique works ?
No, I only turned it off for the purpose of this video. I usually leave it on standard mode.
Thanks for the video. Not sure why youtube put it in my feed, but I am glad it did. I am a bit surprised / amazed at how you follow the ball (or the player with the ball) when using autofocus. I would have assumed that one would either track one player (and then focus would be off when following a pass or shot because it would still be tracking the player who HAD the ball), or if not using tracking, then the autofocus would just jump to whichever player is closest. Am I missing something here? Are you secretly using manual focus???
Secretly?? Is shooting manual something to be ashamed of? 😂 jokes aside, I do film manual sometimes but very rarely. When moving away from a player as fast as we do when we follow a pass or a shot, the camera doesn’t have time to focus on players that might be in the background during the camera movement. So since I film at F4, as long as the ball is roughly as far from me as the player was, it should stay in focus.
This was so helpful thank you so much I had to subscribe to you
Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel!
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thank you so much
He ! Merci très intéressant mon ami 🎥🎬
Merci à toi pour le feedback! 👊🏽
Thank you so much
You're welcome!
Good points
Thank you!
Would love to see wide frame original shots vs what they look like after edits (assuming the edits include zoom). I'm struggling to understand if I'm too narrow while shooting, or just not good at it and get the shakes you described.
They were a couple zoom ins in the basketball edit in the middle but everything else was the original frame size. The more you zoom in, the more difficult it gets so start wider and gradually zoom in as you get better.
I'm just trying to film my twin boys basketball games. I have a Canon R 6 mark II with the 70 to 200 L lens. I have been experiencing all the shaking problems you mentioned. Maybe I need a different lens. This video is super helpful. Thank you.
Happy to help! But I don't think you necessarily need a new lens un less you think the 70-200mm focal length is overkill. It is nice to be able to get close-up shots. I would say, start by staying closer to 70mm and practice the tricks mentioned in the video. The more comfortable you get, the more you can start zooming in as you get better at it. Or you can also get a tripod.
@@BeyondTheGame_E The only reason I say a different lens is when I'm court side 70mm is so close that all I get is their head and shoulders. I watch another person filming with a 24mm right under the basket. His videos were really good.
Ah yeah well that’s the dilemma of sports videography. You can rarely cover everything in high quality with one single lens. Different situations call for different lenses. But the 35-150mm I used in this video is a good all-rounder for basketball.
"Use your stomach"
Finally! My gut actually has a benefit!
😂
Great info. I use a retrofitted shoulder pad to place against my stomach.
That's a great idea! Where did you find that?
@@BeyondTheGame_E it’s a Niceyrig should pad on 15mm rails. Smallrig has a combo version with v mount support.
I was wondering if theres a item that serves the purpose his vmount battery is serving.
@@GoatProjectMedia smallrig 4505 has a pad for the belly :)
Man E, in I wish you have put this video out 2 months earlier. I tried filming my son 's middle school basketball game had help for the first time and these tips would have made the footage look a hell of a lot better lol!!
Let me know how you go next time after watching this video.
Do you add digital stabilization? Or why is the reason of not use standar stabilization in body camera? Greetings from Mexico, nice video!
The purpose of this video is to demonstrate how you can shoot stable footage with any camera and no help from stabilization in the lens, camera or computer. That’s why I turned it off, to prove that it was possible.
Well i thought this is basic knowledge, i use my face as the third point of contact since my camera has an nice big eyepiece. I find it too that videokameras work better for sports filming than dslr cameras plus i would say that a shoulder mount is the best way to get steady shots of sports, like sometimes one needs to pan super quickly and the there is nothing that works as well as a shoulder mount. I film mostly extreme sports like skating, bmx, rollerblading and car racing/drifting and close shots can be a split of a second and the fact that my face and the upper body is main point of contact i can manoeuvre much faster whit less respons time. But this is all preference and muscle memory one can do great work whit almost any tools if done right!
I use a belt as a fourth point of support along with bracing my elbows against my torso, and it gives me incredible control. It's strange that no one talks about this or uses it.
Well, we're saying pretty much the same thing. I mentioned tucking in your elbows and using your belly as a point of contact.
@@BeyondTheGame_E
This is difficult to explain. I suggest you try it yourself. For example take a lens with an 85mm focal length and try to shoot an object while only using your elbows pressed against your stomach for support. Then, add a belt as an additional point of support and try to shoot the same object again. You will be very surprised. I have a BMPCC 4K camera and fully manual lenses, so I know what I'm talking about since I don't have any stabilization assistance at all. :)) Part of the load will be distributed to the strap, another part to your elbows and stomach, and your camera will feel even more stable. With an 85mm lens, I can shoot almost as steadily as with a 16mm lens.
@@kda3542 have you watched the video? This is exactly what I’m doing.
Thank nice video
Welcome!
looks like you've been in the gym since you gone back to Canada...think those muscles are help too. 💪
Haha thanks for noticing but still not quite in the shape I once was!
Thanks for the tips. I got my ZV-E1 two weeks ago and my footage seems jittery, and annoying of course. I noticed that you shot at 1/320 sec. Do you often use this shutter speed? I mean, I'd like to shoot something sharp with less motion blur.
Yes, when filming at 120p, I’m typically at a shutter speed of 1/320 or 1/400.
Will try to replicate this on my ZV-E1
@@halimrahman let me know how you go with it 👍🏽
nice
When filming basketball and after the ball has when through the hoop, how long do you keep filming the shooter for? I have tried filming basketball but seem to cut short the length of filming after the scoring of the points.
Depends on what I'm going for. If I'm on the baseline and I have a great view of the player's face while he's shooting, I might just stick on him after the release and not go to the basket at all. But otherwise I try to follow the ball as soon as it is released so that it is always in frame.
When zooming with your right hand are you using full time auto AF? I find that it often picks the wrong player especially with a lot of traffic. But maybe my AF point is too big.
@@mikkelborasmussen1509 Yes, I'm mostly on auto but I do use manual from time to time when trying specific things.
For social media, do you recommend filming in horizontal then cropping your videos to post on instagram stories, TikTok, etc??
Yes, just like I explain in this video czcams.com/video/bHdLvALuWtM/video.html
Would you think the 70-180 tamron would be better over the 24-105sony? On the fx3 sensor
Definitely not better quality, just different focal lengths.
nice tips, i almost do the same on another field not sports but i always have the ibis on, i see why you do it but on 150 isn't it hard without it? may i ask how you attach the mic on the top handle? it snot visible in the video... keep those videos up
Hey there, I only took ibis off to show how easy it is to be stable with the proper technique. But I usually leave it on standard. Also, the FX3 top handle comes with an XLR audio unit and an attachment for a shotgun mic. You can see it in this video I made about my kit czcams.com/video/J6Q4Fkia0OE/video.htmlsi=s18LXSAZy5P-gN60
@@BeyondTheGame_E sorry for this but after i messaged i watched most of your videos and found out about the mic :P, my bad... about ibis it just seemed really strange that you turned it off , thanks for the reply, good day and cheers from Greece mate :)
All good 😊 I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos!
@@BeyondTheGame_E you got a new sub for sure :)
Camera body against my own body is an great tip, and a great reason for me to bust out my cage and battery ❤
Happy to help!
What monitor do you use? I’m looking to get one right now.
I use this one:
czcams.com/video/LZ1nhE8N1b4/video.html
I feel like most sports shooting these days relies on a heavy use of motion tracking in post. How much do you use that in your work? Isn't that also a big factor in smoothing out footage?
The main reason for that is the popularity of vertical videos. You kind of have to do some sort of tracking to keep your subject in frame if you filmed horizontally. That's what I use tracking for anyway. I also use it if I zoom in real tight on a basketball going through the hoop for example.
Great advice! much appreciated
Thank you 🙏🏽
Hi E,
How heavy is your camera setup?
Greetings from Germany
No idea 🤷🏽♂️ but just the lens itself is pretty heavy. Definitely the heaviest lens I’ve ever used.
Are there any benefits to shutting off the “steadyshot” or was it just for the purpose of the video?
I only turned it off for the purpose of the video. But if you intend to stabilize your footage afterwards in Catalyst Browse, it is recommended to turn off all stabilization in camera.
So if you have ISO and shutter speed set manually, do you let aperture auto change, or fully manual?
Fully manual.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I shoot outside at night a lot, and I have to set my shutter speed manually, and I like to also set my aperture manually, so I have to keep ISO on auto due to changing light conditions. I wish I could set ISO manually at native, but I haven't figured out the best settings yet.
I heard you said that you film at 120 fps to slow down the footage in post to fix shakes. What fps do you mostly film sports at? 30 fps? I know the cinematic standard is 24 fps. Also, what frame rate do you set your talking head CZcams shots at?
I film all my sport action at 120fps and all my talking head at 24fps.
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thank you! Your videos are super helpful. Keep up the great work! I have one last question, do you keep your editing project timeline at 120fps or do you reduce it to 24 or 30 fps?
@@ThatMartinezGuy If you want to slow down your footage in post, you timeline' frame rate always has to be lower than the frame rate of your footage. I personally edit in 24fps but you could use 30 as well. Here's a video that explains all of this a little better czcams.com/video/Da-bS7a35zM/video.htmlsi=67r192nrpiznJki3
Can you do a video for people that are trying to film sports games with a cell phone
iPhone or Samsung
Trying to film basketball games
I have made one already. Here it is czcams.com/video/wsy1Lglw5Rs/video.html
what are your favorite focal lenghts for this type of sport event shoots? Are you shooting in full frame or super 35 mode? Thx for all the tips !!!
I don't have a favorite focal length per say. Variety is the key for me. But I always use a full frame camera and make the most of the full frame sensor. Although there is a bit of a crop when I film in 4K/120p.
@@BeyondTheGame_E 70 200 your favorite lens for this kind of work? Thx!
@robinreso6240 for outdoor sports yes but not for basketball. 70mm is too tight from the baseline. I typically use a Tamron 35-150mm
@@BeyondTheGame_E my shooting style is just like yours mostly handheld. What your opinion about the Smallrig rotating left handle? I probably don't need but I just can't help wondering? Thx!
@@robinreso6240 I've never used it personally but I assume it would be convenient when filming in weird angles.
What ND Filter and which monitor do you use in this?
I use a Polar Pro (Peter McKinnon) mist edition 2-5 VND and a Portkeys LH7P monitor.
Do you pair this with lens stabilization?
For the purpose of this video I didn’t use any stabilization in camera or in the lens to prove that the method works without it. But if you have access to any type of stabilization, it will definitely help to use it as well.
What about at focal length of 400mm? And when you want to zoom out from 400mm to 200mm?
The technique is the same for any focal length. But at some point you will need some type of support to stay stable. 400mm is extreme and filming handheld at that focal length for more than a few seconds without shakes is almost impossible.
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thanks for the reply. Yes even with a fluid head tripod I try to keep the action I am shooting within few seconds. I will be experimenting with your method it is very helpful thanks
Can you do a video like this but for smartphone users instead?
I actually made one already. Here it is: czcams.com/video/wsy1Lglw5Rs/video.htmlsi=QQe_re7eWSO1elEK
@@BeyondTheGame_E you're the realest G! ♥
what’s the monitor you’re using on the camera
The same monitor I reviewed in this video czcams.com/video/LZ1nhE8N1b4/video.html
Have you ever used a Cine Saddle?
No I never have.
Wondering how to put that rig and camera together with the vmount battery? Sorry - videography noob here LOL
No worries at all, here's a video about my rig and everything on it czcams.com/video/J6Q4Fkia0OE/video.htmlsi=PrfGBqSTrSAQwHFU
@@BeyondTheGame_E 🐐🐐Thank you sir
How do you focus? Manual or auto?
A bit of both but probably more auto.
Is the Tamron 17-70mm f/2.8 good enough?
It depends what you are filming. It's good enough quality but it's not a big zoom.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I’m filming basketball
@@Grayson_Lewis Well yeah, it's good when the action is close but you'll struggle if it's far away from you.
@@BeyondTheGame_E gotcha. I’m filming horizontal and still trying to make short from vertical videos so I’m trying to learn how to shoot horizontal and still be able to make it look good whenever I crop it to fit a vertical vid for like CZcams shorts or Instagram reels
@@Grayson_Lewis It's rarely perfect straight from the camera. You usually need to use keyframes in post-production to keep the focus of the action in the middle of your vertical frame.
Are shooting Continues Auto-Focus all the time?
Most of the time. But I do switch to manual focus when it makes sense.
That helps! Thanks for the reply 👍🏻
To have a beer belly is ideal then.
Definitely! 👍🏽
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nice to 60 fps....but in my case, i have the sony a7iii and the 4k work just in 24 or 30fps....lol....yep...its a little be hard...
Why is 4K so important to you? Personally I would shoot in 1080/120 or 1080/60 if I was you. But this technique works at 24 or 30 as well. I would use a higher frame rate mainly for the ability to do slowmo in post.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I believe that 4k in 24fpse brings a better quality....sometimes I use tracker in transitions, and the crop in 4k helps me a lot! But I'll try at 60fps, because lately I can't stand being limited to ronin s anymore lol! Thanks for tips Bro! Crazy channel!
My arms get tired filling more than a few minutes
The camera is probably too far away from your body. The closer it is to your body, the lighter it feels.
Or buy Panasonic 😅. Loved the video though as always 🤎
Thanks 😊
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This video should he 1m max. You just have stolen 7m of my life.
Sorry. I didn’t realize I was forcing you to watch my videos. I’ll try to do better next time.
Just sayin, make ur rig heavier
Yeah I think I mentioned this in the video actually. A heavier rig makes it easier to be stable because of gravity.
I’m going to try your technique tomorrow… So you either just put all the gimbal companies out of business or you’re simply off your meds. lol.
I’m kidding, your footage proves that you know what you’re talking about… Wouldn’t it just be easier to use a gimbal?
It’s actually extremely hard to use a gimbal when filming sports unless you keep a very wide frame at all times. If you have a tighter shot and try to follow the action, a gimbal will be way to slow to keep up and you’ll always be behind the play.
Critical: Want steadier handheld footage? Lift weights.
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This video could’ve easily been a 1min video 😢
If you come to CZcams for 1-minute videos, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
3:10 So does this mean we no longer have to get rid of the ‘none-alcoholic-belly/one pack’ as a major third point of contact 😂🫄🫃??I have to agree that the belly thing works so well… it needs a patent… especially on long shoots and when using singly handle gimbals by resting the legs on your cushiness
😂